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You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
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What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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The Liberals still won though and he was vital in John Howard's wins (Howard was quite similar to May). Canada was a lost cause after years of Tory rule and against Trudeau but the results could have been worse for HarperDura_Ace said:
And in the last Australian federal election where he was outsmarted by the ALP with their "Mediscare" campaign. He had no effective counter and lost a lot of NSW and QLD seats for the LNP. He brought piss to a shit fight.SirNorfolkPassmore said:Crosby is clearly no fool. But neither is he a genius. He's had a couple of major recent flops (in Canada and London) where he badly misjudged the theme.
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Yep, they've taken Mancroft on a collapse of 20% in the green vote. Lewis looks like increasing his majority to me, Greens capitulation.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I think this is free money. Labour making gains (from Greens) in Norwich.dyedwoolie said:I've just had a nibble on Clive Lewis at 8/13. Norwich Labour vote holding up very well and Tories well adrift in Bowthorpe. They can't win it on New Costessey alone.
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Yes, Crosby's re-branding of May has been quite extraordinary. Many moons ago May was actually a figure of contempt amongst the British Right: the 'nasty party' stuff was seen as self-flagellating and pandering; she espoused such notions of gender equality; she wasn't at all sympathetic to criticism of Islam. All in all May was seen as a robotic, unprincipled, PC jellyfish and the very embodiment of societal decline. That's all forgotten now, of course.0
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@RachelWatson27: Twenty-year-old Thomas Kerr says he is 'shocked' after becoming the first Tory elected in Glasgow's Shettleston #council170
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Yep - I could. I'm going to hold it for now, just in case....IanB2 said:
You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
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Is that Selston? If so, no, it's a safe Indie seat, usually votes with Labour.rottenborough said:
Just looking at the Notts live results - seems an independent has won in Ashfield. Is that a change?NickPalmer said:Another one we were worried about in Notts is held easily - West Bridgford North (boundary changes make comparisons hard). Tories piling up big leads in seats they held before, but struggling to make gains so far - Labour (and in Collingham Independent) defences holding...up to now.
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@neilelkes: It's looking increasingly good for Conservative Andy Street here. The signals are that Labour are struggling. #wmmayor0
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Corbynistas spend too much time tweeting and not enough time doorknocking unlike the Tories and LDsScott_P said:There are no words...
@paulwaugh: I'm told Corbyn has asked for data on voter-contact rate in each council seat lost. That suggests he thinks lack of doorknocking to blame0 -
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Barnier regards the dinner leak as 'unhelpful' (well, for the EU, anyway...)AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Brighton Kemptown is a similar seat where Labour could well squeeze the Greens to pick it up.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I think this is free money. Labour making gains (from Greens) in Norwich.dyedwoolie said:I've just had a nibble on Clive Lewis at 8/13. Norwich Labour vote holding up very well and Tories well adrift in Bowthorpe. They can't win it on New Costessey alone.
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And Greens booted in my ward of Nelson despite my vote. Lewis looks impregnable to me, get on him0
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He would not recognise the modern world, yet alone any of the parties.MarqueeMark said:
And of D. H Lawrence. He's probably slowly rotating under the sod at having a Tory councillor.....JosiasJessop said:
Eastwood, the birthplace of the best railway company in the world: the Midland!NickPalmer said:Tories gain Eastwood from LibDems - this is the seat where I had to pull out as I'd moved out of the County boundary.
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Lewis' price already in to 1/20
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@Steven_Swinford: Arron Banks: Under Farage Ukip was racing car. Nuttall has 'crashed the car at the first bend of the race killing driver and spectators'0
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He owes his position to the EU27 heads of government. If he keeps on like this, he will be sidelined from Brexit totally and his influence in other areas diminished... what's the Luxembourgish for loose cannon?AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Looks like Tories have taken 4 seats so far of Lab in Derbyshire.0
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Not a great bet on Bath with hindsight but I'd not write it off just yet.rottenborough said:
Likewise Bath. I am also on Cheadle and Burnley.Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
The Bath and North East Somerset mayoral first count had Con 13,103, Lib Dem 10,021, Labour 6,137. That encompasses Rees-Mogg's seat (traditionally Con/Lab battle) as well as Bath. So that looks competitive.0 -
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The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.-1 -
LDs seem to be freefall in Devon.. which was not expected either. The former MP has just lost his seat in Teignmouth.0
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or voting for that matter.HYUFD said:
Corbynistas spend too much time tweeting and not enough time doorknocking unlike the Tories and LDsScott_P said:There are no words...
@paulwaugh: I'm told Corbyn has asked for data on voter-contact rate in each council seat lost. That suggests he thinks lack of doorknocking to blame0 -
Get a grip. The reaction from most sane Britons, never mind your average Eurocrat, will be that if the more lunatic Leavers can't spot a joke, that's their problem not his.Baskerville said:
He owes his position to the EU27 heads of government. If he keeps on like this, he will be sidelined from Brexit totally and his influence in other areas diminished... what's the Luxembourgish for loose cannon?AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Ah no I see - it's the former LibDem leader Zadrozny who is no longer a member of the party due to a legal case which I believe is still ongoing (so I won't say more).NickPalmer said:
Is that Selston? If so, no, it's a safe Indie seat, usually votes with Labour.rottenborough said:
Just looking at the Notts live results - seems an independent has won in Ashfield. Is that a change?NickPalmer said:Another one we were worried about in Notts is held easily - West Bridgford North (boundary changes make comparisons hard). Tories piling up big leads in seats they held before, but struggling to make gains so far - Labour (and in Collingham Independent) defences holding...up to now.
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Just described as 'Ashfields'.NickPalmer said:
Is that Selston? If so, no, it's a safe Indie seat, usually votes with Labour.rottenborough said:
Just looking at the Notts live results - seems an independent has won in Ashfield. Is that a change?NickPalmer said:Another one we were worried about in Notts is held easily - West Bridgford North (boundary changes make comparisons hard). Tories piling up big leads in seats they held before, but struggling to make gains so far - Labour (and in Collingham Independent) defences holding...up to now.
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The UKIP hold was a mistake?0
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I make it 8 so far!rottenborough said:Looks like Tories have taken 4 seats so far of Lab in Derbyshire.
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He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.0 -
If there is any seat that might buck the national Lab/Con trend, I agree this is it. But the trend is strong, and I'm not sure 5/1 is tempting enough.NickPalmer said:
Brighton Kemptown is a similar seat where Labour could well squeeze the Greens to pick it up.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I think this is free money. Labour making gains (from Greens) in Norwich.dyedwoolie said:I've just had a nibble on Clive Lewis at 8/13. Norwich Labour vote holding up very well and Tories well adrift in Bowthorpe. They can't win it on New Costessey alone.
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First Tory gain from Labour in Notts - Retford East by 37 votes. That eliminates the Labour majority (which was 1), though the Indies and LibDems have generally voted with Labour recently. Plenty of seats still to come.0
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Fantastic news for Andy Street, and bodes well for the GE in that area too.Scott_P said:@neilelkes: It's looking increasingly good for Conservative Andy Street here. The signals are that Labour are struggling. #wmmayor
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Gloria in trouble?NickPalmer said:
Ah no I see - it's the former LibDem leader Zadrozny who is no longer a member of the party due to a legal case which I believe is still ongoing (so I won't say more).NickPalmer said:
Is that Selston? If so, no, it's a safe Indie seat, usually votes with Labour.rottenborough said:
Just looking at the Notts live results - seems an independent has won in Ashfield. Is that a change?NickPalmer said:Another one we were worried about in Notts is held easily - West Bridgford North (boundary changes make comparisons hard). Tories piling up big leads in seats they held before, but struggling to make gains so far - Labour (and in Collingham Independent) defences holding...up to now.
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True. I am really disappointed with the lds right now. What's the point?SeanT said:There is good news hidden in these dire results for Labour.
UKIP is collapsing, the LDs are moribund. Both could theoretically have replaced them as the main Opposition after Brexit, if we'd seen a massive, Scottish-style realignment. But it seems that ain't the case - yet.
Labour will survive. If and when they come to their senses, they will return to power.0 -
Correction... 9!RobD said:
I make it 8 so far!rottenborough said:Looks like Tories have taken 4 seats so far of Lab in Derbyshire.
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Labour is doing ok in Norfolk having won seats from the Greens in Norwich and UKIP in Yarmouth.0
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I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.0 -
Trump to meet Tusk and Juncker in Brussels before UK election.
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Last week Lab's private pollster said Lab was polling 20% for the GE, I thought it was spin, now I think they were overestimating it. 0
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Surprised guys. The Nothamptonshire count isn't until 2pm...tlg86 said:
That's very close to the football ground. I wonder if that scandal is having an impact?RobD said:Track the England councils here - https://goo.gl/uzcozl
UKIP had their first win of the night in Northamptonshire! A gain from the Tories no less.0 -
File under 'No shit, Sherlock'.CarlottaVance said:
Barnier regards the dinner leak as 'unhelpful' (well, for the EU, anyway...)AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
When the serious negotiations start they need to get rid of the drunken idiot, and in the meantime they need to understand that everything they say in the next five weeks will only give Theresa a bigger majority. She now doesn't need to care about keeping both Ken Clarke and Bill Cash happy.0 -
As I have been saying for some time. The 28-29% we are seeing in national polls is nonsense. It has to be. Look at the reaction Corbyn gets from voters.TheScreamingEagles said:Last week Lab's private pollster said Lab was polling 20% for the GE, I thought it was spin, now I think they were overestimating it.
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And two Tory gains in Hucknall, by 74 and 398. Hucknall had 3 Labour seats but was split into two 1-member divisions, so that's two and a half Tory gains, so to speak.0
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Doesn't look bad in their target seats. My next door seat is Eastleigh and there they went from 3 to 7 (that's a clean sweep of all available County seats).kle4 said:
True. I am really disappointed with the lds right now. What's the point?SeanT said:There is good news hidden in these dire results for Labour.
UKIP is collapsing, the LDs are moribund. Both could theoretically have replaced them as the main Opposition after Brexit, if we'd seen a massive, Scottish-style realignment. But it seems that ain't the case - yet.
Labour will survive. If and when they come to their senses, they will return to power.0 -
I think Labour can hold Hove as well. Smallish Green vote to sqeeze, but only a small UKIP vote too, plus a popular MP with first time incumbency and demographics moving in Labours favour. 5/2 seems decent value.NickPalmer said:
Brighton Kemptown is a similar seat where Labour could well squeeze the Greens to pick it up.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I think this is free money. Labour making gains (from Greens) in Norwich.dyedwoolie said:I've just had a nibble on Clive Lewis at 8/13. Norwich Labour vote holding up very well and Tories well adrift in Bowthorpe. They can't win it on New Costessey alone.
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Tom Brake looks as though he needs to see a doctor..FrancisUrquhart said:BBC panel is a total shit show.
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I'm going off the local newspaper website, so a bit behind maybe. Is there a live feed from actual council?RobD said:
Correction... 9!RobD said:
I make it 8 so far!rottenborough said:Looks like Tories have taken 4 seats so far of Lab in Derbyshire.
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Junckers stupid remarks highlighted on BBC and provoked an instant angry response from my wife.
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It's at 29-1 on betfair exchange when I checked....IanB2 said:
You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
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Does that mean Con gain Bassetlaw in June? It's an area which ought to trend Tory now the mining is gone.NickPalmer said:First Tory gain from Labour in Notts - Retford East by 37 votes. That eliminates the Labour majority (which was 1), though the Indies and LibDems have generally voted with Labour recently. Plenty of seats still to come.
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Con have gained Swadlincote South (Derbys) - isn't that a former mining town?0
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Now gone... May have been a glitch I think.rkrkrk said:
It's at 29-1 on betfair exchange when I checked....IanB2 said:
You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
Got some of it though.
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Knock sense into themwilliamglenn said:Trump to meet Tusk and Juncker in Brussels before UK election.
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Another seat fallen in Derbyshire - Long Eaton gone CON.0
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On those figures Labour is losing 30% of the seats being defended.CarlottaVance said:0 -
On sportsbook the Tories are at 10/11. A small bet on them and you can't lose overall.rkrkrk said:
It's at 29-1 on betfair exchange when I checked....IanB2 said:
You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
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Besides, who cares if Junckers loses influence? That is his problem.AlastairMeeks said:
Get a grip. The reaction from most sane Britons, never mind your average Eurocrat, will be that if the more lunatic Leavers can't spot a joke, that's their problem not his.Baskerville said:
He owes his position to the EU27 heads of government. If he keeps on like this, he will be sidelined from Brexit totally and his influence in other areas diminished... what's the Luxembourgish for loose cannon?AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Provided he does not have to stay back to get Trumpcare through the Senate but he is only meeting them after meeting May, Merkel, Trudeau, Abe, Xi, Turnbull, the PM of Denmark, the PM of Ireland,the King of Jordan and the President of Argentina so they were not exactly top of the listwilliamglenn said:Trump to meet Tusk and Juncker in Brussels before UK election.
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It is indeed. Never been an easy area for the Conservatives, but now? Con gain Bootle???rottenborough said:Con have gained Swadlincote South (Derbys) - isn't that a former mining town?
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LDs hold all six seats in Eastbourne (despite the PM's visit)0
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Blimey. Stunning news.SeanT said:0 -
The fascist isn't our friend.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Knock sense into themwilliamglenn said:Trump to meet Tusk and Juncker in Brussels before UK election.
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Yep. The final colliery closed in the early 1990s - ?1994?. Rawdon.rottenborough said:Con have gained Swadlincote South (Derbys) - isn't that a former mining town?
It was also well known for its fireclays, which was quite a big business. I think that's also gone now. I used to know the town well, but haven't been back there in 20-odd years.
A town that really should have its railway line reopened to passengers, but problems elsewhere apparently preclude it.
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Yep pretty much.rottenborough said:Con have gained Swadlincote South (Derbys) - isn't that a former mining town?
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Look, Alastair, stop calling everyone who you disagree with a 'Leaver'. You have no idea how I voted and seem unwilling to engage in debate, falling back on sneering about 'hysteria'. As Tusk would say: Stop being emotional.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.0 -
If I was a pollster I would be rather nervous at any data pointing Labour north of 25pts at the moment....0
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'Miners for May'Garza said:
Yep pretty much.rottenborough said:Con have gained Swadlincote South (Derbys) - isn't that a former mining town?
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Glasgow City Council in 2003
LAB 71
SNP 3
LD 3
CON 1
SSP 1
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Basically it's Con taking the entire unionist vote. Labour and LD to get squeezed out everywhere they aren't strong (so, everywhere)SeanT said:0 -
Scottish Tories have gained their first ever councillor in the Western Isles
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I'm very sorry. At this sensitive time I should have more consideration of your feelings. We should get behind Theresa May against the enemy that is the EU. We shall fight them in the comedy clubs. We shall fight them in the jazz clubs. We shall never surrender.Baskerville said:
Look, Alastair, stop calling everyone who you disagree with a 'Leaver'. You have no idea how I voted and seem unwilling to engage in debate, falling back on sneering about 'hysteria'. As Tusk would say: Stop being emotional.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.-1 -
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Cardiff final tally
LAB 40 (-6)
CON 20 (+13)
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Embarrassingly I think I looked at labour odds!IanB2 said:
On sportsbook the Tories are at 10/11. A small bet on them and you can't lose overall.rkrkrk said:
It's at 29-1 on betfair exchange when I checked....IanB2 said:
You must be able to hedge the 25/1 on the seat itself to guarantee a profit?Mortimer said:
Now expecting to lose the 25/1 on Olney in Richmond Park - and also the nets on Bath going Yellow. They were still both excellent value bets, mind, and hedged my bullish Tory constituency bets...rottenborough said:Feeling a bit nauseous now about my LibDem constituency bets.
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He's well on the way to elvating anyone associated with the EU to sainthood.Baskerville said:
Look, Alastair, stop calling everyone who you disagree with a 'Leaver'. You have no idea how I voted and seem unwilling to engage in debate, falling back on sneering about 'hysteria'. As Tusk would say: Stop being emotional.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
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Yep, just on their website!rottenborough said:
I'm going off the local newspaper website, so a bit behind maybe. Is there a live feed from actual council?RobD said:
Correction... 9!RobD said:
I make it 8 so far!rottenborough said:Looks like Tories have taken 4 seats so far of Lab in Derbyshire.
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Unpleasant for him, but if he's standing again as LD PPC in the GE he may be the next MP.JonWC said:LDs seem to be freefall in Devon.. which was not expected either. The former MP has just lost his seat in Teignmouth.
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Seems kind of unlikely if he cannot personally win in a good bit though?AnneJGP said:
Unpleasant for him, but if he's standing again as LD PPC in the GE he may be the next MP.JonWC said:LDs seem to be freefall in Devon.. which was not expected either. The former MP has just lost his seat in Teignmouth.
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I know Hucknall well - I remember leafleting and canvassing it when a teenager in the famous 1977 Ashfield by-election there.... 20.8% swing.NickPalmer said:And two Tory gains in Hucknall, by 74 and 398. Hucknall had 3 Labour seats but was split into two 1-member divisions, so that's two and a half Tory gains, so to speak.
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Exactly right. If you're a unionist (and remember that was 55% of the electorate in 2014), then you're going to be looking at the tories as being potentially the only game in town. Supported by Super Ruth.dyedwoolie said:
Basically it's Con taking the entire unionist vote. Labour and LD to get squeezed out everywhere they aren't strong (so, everywhere)SeanT said:0 -
Derbyshire - LAB -13, CON +12, LD+1
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You missed the bit where I said that I thought that he should have resigned and that I'm not a fan of him at all. But apart from that, carry on.Slackbladder said:
He's well on the way to elvating anyone associated with the EU to sainthood.Baskerville said:
Look, Alastair, stop calling everyone who you disagree with a 'Leaver'. You have no idea how I voted and seem unwilling to engage in debate, falling back on sneering about 'hysteria'. As Tusk would say: Stop being emotional.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.0 -
Sad.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm very sorry. At this sensitive time I should have more consideration of your feelings. We should get behind Theresa May against the enemy that is the EU. We shall fight them in the comedy clubs. We shall fight them in the jazz clubs. We shall never surrender.Baskerville said:
Look, Alastair, stop calling everyone who you disagree with a 'Leaver'. You have no idea how I voted and seem unwilling to engage in debate, falling back on sneering about 'hysteria'. As Tusk would say: Stop being emotional.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not a fan of him at all. I think he should have resigned last summer. But I can recognise hysteria when I see it and far too many Leavers are descending into it so far as he is concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is very toxic but then I expect a remainer to defend anything to do with the wonderful EUAlastairMeeks said:
The money is small change in the context of the overall size of the EU's economies. Yes, there would be arguments about where to find the gap, but a deal would be struck.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It very much is the EU problem - no deal no money for themAlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
Someone needs to hook him off
Leavers need to stop hyperventilating every time Jean-Claude Juncker picks up his pen to fill in a crossword clue.0 -
The eurosceptic Tory Right seem more obsessed with obscure EU functionaries now that we've left than they ever were when we were a member. Shame - if they'd had paid that much attention at the time, perhaps we could have shaped the EU to be much more to our liking.Beverley_C said:
Besides, who cares if Junckers loses influence? That is his problem.AlastairMeeks said:
Get a grip. The reaction from most sane Britons, never mind your average Eurocrat, will be that if the more lunatic Leavers can't spot a joke, that's their problem not his.Baskerville said:
He owes his position to the EU27 heads of government. If he keeps on like this, he will be sidelined from Brexit totally and his influence in other areas diminished... what's the Luxembourgish for loose cannon?AlastairMeeks said:
What's sensitive about the current time? He has no reason to care how febrile public opinion is in Britain, especially if Theresa May has opted to pour petrol on the flames. That's her problem, not the EU's.Baskerville said:
Worth noting that verbal jokes rarely work as well when written down and vice versa. You'd have thought a 'politician' as experienced as J-C Juncker would know this and take care at such a sensitive time, just days after his loose language had already put him on the naughty step.SeanT said:
Actually, if you watch the full clip, it's clearly a sardonic joke. A little dig at the English, but a joke nonetheless. He knows the reality of English language hegemony.Big_G_NorthWales said:Juncker's crass comments about English language just shown live on BBC.
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The LDs have made gains in EdinburghSlackbladder said:
Exactly right. If you're a unionist (and remember that was 55% of the electorate in 2014), then you're going to be looking at the tories as being potentially the only game in town. Supported by Super Ruth.dyedwoolie said:
Basically it's Con taking the entire unionist vote. Labour and LD to get squeezed out everywhere they aren't strong (so, everywhere)SeanT said:0 -
Blaenau Gwent Council result - IND GAIN FROM LAB:
Independent 28 (+19)
Labour 13 (−20)
Plaid Cymru 1(+1)0 -
from an SNP Zoomer on my timeline...
@rosscolquhoun: Scottish Labour rose wilts
*Jug of fresh water labelled 'independence' is in touching distance*
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The FT ponders whether a committed Remain government could possibly do more to sabotage Brexit than what May is doing.
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I pointed out a few weeks ago the most outrageous SCon gain could be Na_h Eileanan an Iar.rottenborough said:
Blimey. Stunning news.SeanT said:
Not likely, but not impossible either.
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