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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @RedHotSquirrel: SNP lose Dundee West ward on Dundee City Council to the Conservatives.

    @Alan_Cochrane: Tartan Tories who defected to SNP in Perthshire, Ayrshire and North East are going 'home'. Why? Simple: Nicola and threat of indyref2.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    SeanT said:

    Does that imply the Nats are actually losing votes? Not sure how the system works in Scottish locals.

    Yes
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,266
    As a Remoaner I am clear Cameron's referendum was a disaster for UK. But boy it has worked for the Tories as UKIP fold.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    Party vote shares in the Cambridge local elections:
    Lib Dem 37.15%
    Labour 37.07%
    Conservative 14.8%
    Green 8.2%
    UKIP 0.7%
    Ind 2.0%
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Edinburgh_CC: Ward 9 - Fountainbridge/Craiglockhart results: 3 elected
    Gavin Corbett (Green)
    Andrew Johnston (Con)
    David Key (SNP)
    Turnout 54% #edincount
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,988
    Mr. Pulpstar, bad luck.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sad KLAXON

    @BraidenHT: First Minister's father Robin Sturgeon hasn't made it in North Ayrshire. On second time of asking. #GCC17
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    IanB2 said:

    Tees Valley hangs on second prefs:

    Conservatives 40,278 to Labour's 39,797.
    Lib Dems on 12,550
    UKIP on 9,475

    If the Conservatives take pretty much all the UKIP second prefs and 1/4 of the Lib Dems' then they're home.

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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @AlanRoden: SNP’s number one priority at this election was an overall majority in Glasgow. If the SNP fails to do that then it will be a huge failure.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @simon_telegraph: First ever Conservative councillor in Cumnock #LE2017
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,013
    IanB2 said:

    Party vote shares in the Cambridge local elections:
    Lib Dem 37.15%
    Labour 37.07%
    Conservative 14.8%
    Green 8.2%
    UKIP 0.7%
    Ind 2.0%

    Compared to last year I think that's LD +3.5%, Lab -5%
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    Pulpstar said:

    Tories within 150 votes in my ward. 427 for me. Never seen Labour so crestfallen to win

    Well done. Good not to be squeezed
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Election Data‏ @election_data

    Walsall have voted 49.5% Conservative and 34.9% Labour in first stage of #wmmayor election
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    IanB2 said:

    Just home from work, catching up with the election news on the Beeb.

    Observations:

    Peter Kellner suggesting that this rivals 1982 (in the midst of the Falklands War) as the best Conservative local government election performance since detailed records began to be kept in the Seventies.

    Kellner also suggested that, if we tot up the combined vote for all the left-leaning parties and the combined vote for all the right-leaning parties, a small but measurable right-to-left swing is observable. The problem for the left, of course, is that their vote is much more divided.

    Saw latest results from Norfolk - Liberal Democrats gaining vote share but losing councillors, presumably because they are being swamped by a huge Ukip to Con swing. Ill omens there for Norman Lamb.

    Ukip dying everywhere. Have heard that they may finally have won a seat up in Burnley, so Ukip=0 not technically accurate, but I think it's going to be pretty close.

    LibDem gain Cromer!
    Main town in Norman Lamb constituency.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Taylor_Muir54: Wow! Conservative GAIN in Rutherglen Central and North!!
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    eekeek Posts: 24,992
    IanB2 said:

    Tees Valley hangs on second prefs:

    Conservatives 40,278 to Labour's 39,797.
    Lib Dems on 12,550
    UKIP on 9,475

    less than 25% turnout... Really not sure how it will play out as I'm not sure how many people will have used their second preferences (most people I spoke to didn't but equally they probably voted for one of the top 2 anyway).
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298

    IanB2 said:

    Tees Valley hangs on second prefs:

    Conservatives 40,278 to Labour's 39,797.
    Lib Dems on 12,550
    UKIP on 9,475

    If the Conservatives take pretty much all the UKIP second prefs and 1/4 of the Lib Dems' then they're home.

    Yes, I'd call it for the Tories too. Shame there aren't any in play markets on it.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    Freggles said:

    IanB2 said:

    Conservatives ahead on first preferences for the Tees Valley mayoralty

    Well, Felix, wherever you are, you were right.

    On the plus side, proof Corbyn needs to go!
    I'm just in! Depends on 2nd prefs of course now.
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    Very good results for Labour in Norwich where they have won 12 out of 13 wards.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MichaelLCrick: Simon Danczuk, who has been barred from standing for Rochdale for Labour, tells me he's "seriously thinking" of standing as an independent
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    edited May 2017

    Election Data‏ @election_data

    Walsall have voted 49.5% Conservative and 34.9% Labour in first stage of #wmmayor election

    I think Simon may have a narrow lead on first preferences because of the Labour tribal vote in Birmingham and Coventry but Street may win it overall with LD and UKIP preferences but we will see it looks close either way
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,760
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,046
    bobajobPB said:

    I am still too busy at work to keep up with this. Can someone of a neutral and unexcitable none Tory persuasion (e.g. Alastair) give me the OK/FUBAR level for Corbyn on a scale of 1-10. Cheers!

    I'm unsure if I count as non-Tory persuasion, but I'd say it's currently a five. It's not as bad is it could be, and it looks like he'll beat Labour's worst predictions - e.g. they've held Cardiff. Other areas look expectedly bad.

    Corbyn will stay on until the GE (there's little point in getting rid of him before then anyway).

    But it's not over yet ...
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    DisraeliDisraeli Posts: 1,106
    IanB2 said:

    WM Mayor: Walsall 49.5% Conservative v 34.9% Labour

    Interesting. Labour hold both Walsall seats with Tories in second place.
    A 7.2% swing needed to take Walsall North, and 2.6% to take Walsall South.
    Taking both seats would indicate a Tory landslide.
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    mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,144
    rcs1000 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Party vote shares in the Cambridge local elections:
    Lib Dem 37.15%
    Labour 37.07%
    Conservative 14.8%
    Green 8.2%
    UKIP 0.7%
    Ind 2.0%

    Compared to last year I think that's LD +3.5%, Lab -5%
    I stand by my prediction that Huppert will win at the GE.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,081
    Solihull and Sutton Coldfield will go heavily for Street I imagine.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,266
    Scott_P said:

    Alfred Jodl: "He's moving divisions around that exist only on his map."

    Downfall film.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,937
    The Midlands looks like it will be the Labour bloodbath I was expecting. And it will be worse at the GE. If you were going to devise a political figure designed specifically to repel Midlanders Corbyn would be it. If you didn't get it quite right you'd probably end up with Ed Miliband.
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    eekeek Posts: 24,992
    edited May 2017
    Scott_P said:

    @MichaelLCrick: Simon Danczuk, who has been barred from standing for Rochdale for Labour, tells me he's "seriously thinking" of standing as an independent

    And? He needs to stand to get a payoff....
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited May 2017
    WTF!

    @Carlaw4Eastwood: Congratulations to Paul Aitken on becoming first Conservative Cllr in Barrhead in 25 years. Looking good for @PM4EastRen on June 8th.
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    tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,548

    bobajobPB said:

    I am still too busy at work to keep up with this. Can someone of a neutral and unexcitable none Tory persuasion (e.g. Alastair) give me the OK/FUBAR level for Corbyn on a scale of 1-10. Cheers!

    I'm unsure if I count as non-Tory persuasion, but I'd say it's currently a five. It's not as bad is it could be, and it looks like he'll beat Labour's worst predictions - e.g. they've held Cardiff. Other areas look expectedly bad.

    Corbyn will stay on until the GE (there's little point in getting rid of him before then anyway).

    But it's not over yet ...
    I'd say that Labour have retreated into strongholds: Manchester, Liverpool, Cardiff all looking OK. But they seem on track to lose the Tees Valley metro mayor which should never have been in doubt. The North East looks like a disaster area for Labour. So Corbyn has enough decent areas and results to talk up, with the total meltdown only occurring in certain areas.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 30,966
    Delighted to see Keith Girling win Newark West. Very good friend and the epitome of public service.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Alistair said:

    SeanT said:

    Scott_P said:

    @Edinburgh_CC: Ward 8 - Colinton/Fairmilehead results: 3 elected
    Scott Arthur (Lab)
    Phil Doggart (Con)
    Jason Rust (Con)
    Turnout – 60.2%
    #edincount

    Turnout 60%????
    51% in 2012
    Mr Alistair, is turnout in Scotland’s locals generally higher than UK, or is it just Edinburgh?
    Just the pen bits of Edinburgh. Overall turnout on 2012 was 36%

    This is I think, like Holyrood, a SCon surge based on differential turnout.
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Heroic spinning from Labour (1): getting shellacked nearly everywhere but bigging up the fact that they survived in bits of South Wales.

    Heroic spinning from Labour (2): being shredded by the SNP in Glasgow, but claiming their opponents will have failed if they can't get an absolute majority in a very hard to win STV election.

    I think about the only thing they have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scott_P said:

    WTF!

    @Carlaw4Eastwood: Congratulations to Paul Aitken on becoming first Conservative Cllr in Barrhead in 25 years. Looking good for @PM4EastRen on June 8th.

    Wow
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Roger said:

    Rather than obsessing about "Will Corbyn resign?", given the LD's rubbish showing will Farron resign?

    I'd like to see Clegg do a Lazarus
    He may be the LDs best option
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tories within 150 votes in my ward. 427 for me. Never seen Labour so crestfallen to win

    Well done. Good not to be squeezed
    Eckington killamarsh big ward.
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    Arthur_PennyArthur_Penny Posts: 198
    Shock Horror - Tories pick up 2 seats in Durham (so far). Only need another 60 gains and they'll carry the County.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    Any news of Durham?
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Scott_P said:
    Much as I think Diane Abbot deserves pretty much whatever she gets from interviewers, this is a real gotcha question. I hate interviewers who do that - the interview becomes about how smart the interviewer (thinks he/she) is versus informing the public about the issues.

    In this case, it is worse. We already know how crap Diane is.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298

    Solihull and Sutton Coldfield will go heavily for Street I imagine.

    Yep. So it hangs on Brum...
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124

    Shock Horror - Tories pick up 2 seats in Durham (so far). Only need another 60 gains and they'll carry the County.

    Lol - you answered b4 I asked!
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    Arthur_PennyArthur_Penny Posts: 198
    Betting note - Tory candidate WINS Sedgefield.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    Pulpstar said:

    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tories within 150 votes in my ward. 427 for me. Never seen Labour so crestfallen to win

    Well done. Good not to be squeezed
    Eckington killamarsh big ward.
    Why is the marsh so dangerous?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030

    Roger said:

    Rather than obsessing about "Will Corbyn resign?", given the LD's rubbish showing will Farron resign?

    I'd like to see Clegg do a Lazarus
    He may be the LDs best option
    Clegg is a big Macron fan and attended his London rally
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614

    bobajobPB said:

    I am still too busy at work to keep up with this. Can someone of a neutral and unexcitable none Tory persuasion (e.g. Alastair) give me the OK/FUBAR level for Corbyn on a scale of 1-10. Cheers!

    I'm unsure if I count as non-Tory persuasion, but I'd say it's currently a five. It's not as bad is it could be, and it looks like he'll beat Labour's worst predictions - e.g. they've held Cardiff. Other areas look expectedly bad.

    Corbyn will stay on until the GE (there's little point in getting rid of him before then anyway).

    But it's not over yet ...
    Yes it is.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    SeanT said:

    So the most remarkable performance seems to be by the Scottish Conservatives

    Mr. Knox, how dare you! No klaxon alert. Think of all the triggers you've set off. Naughty corner for you!
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,760
    David Torrance @davidtorrance
    It is kinda ironic that the deeply anti-Tory SNP is largely responsible for, well, a Tory revival in Scotland.
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    eekeek Posts: 24,992
    tpfkar said:

    bobajobPB said:

    I am still too busy at work to keep up with this. Can someone of a neutral and unexcitable none Tory persuasion (e.g. Alastair) give me the OK/FUBAR level for Corbyn on a scale of 1-10. Cheers!

    I'm unsure if I count as non-Tory persuasion, but I'd say it's currently a five. It's not as bad is it could be, and it looks like he'll beat Labour's worst predictions - e.g. they've held Cardiff. Other areas look expectedly bad.

    Corbyn will stay on until the GE (there's little point in getting rid of him before then anyway).

    But it's not over yet ...
    I'd say that Labour have retreated into strongholds: Manchester, Liverpool, Cardiff all looking OK. But they seem on track to lose the Tees Valley metro mayor which should never have been in doubt. The North East looks like a disaster area for Labour. So Corbyn has enough decent areas and results to talk up, with the total meltdown only occurring in certain areas.
    Technically Teesside is not the North East - that was going to be a different Mayoral region but the councils couldn't agree on it - as Sunderland and Gateshead are always worried about a bias towards Newcastle.

    Locally the local Labour Councils are suffering from the council cut backs so between that and a lack of effort in getting out the vote I don't think Labour losing it is that big a surprise.

    Also given that the main topic seemed to be a local airport that only flies to Amsterdam and Aberdeen I don't think its the most relevant election for most people
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527

    Heroic spinning from Labour (1): getting shellacked nearly everywhere but bigging up the fact that they survived in bits of South Wales.

    Heroic spinning from Labour (2): being shredded by the SNP in Glasgow, but claiming their opponents will have failed if they can't get an absolute majority in a very hard to win STV election.

    I think about the only thing they have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.

    Labour have done quite well in Norfolk!
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,452

    Betting note - Tory candidate WINS Sedgefield.

    Sedgefield itself is actually a very pleasant little town , and probably the most Tory part of the constituency of the same name.
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Apparently the Conservatives have taken overall control of Derbyshire County Council from Labour.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    The significance of branding it as a Theresa May campaign is that they don't have to go all out negative on Corbyn - every time people hear "Theresa May" they can be left to infer "the other option is Corbyn".
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Regretting laying off some of my SCon over 9.5 seats bet now.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,980

    Apparently the Conservatives have taken overall control of Derbyshire County Council from Labour.

    Yep, they are on 35. 34 required for majority.
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    eekeek Posts: 24,992

    Betting note - Tory candidate WINS Sedgefield.

    Sedgefield was always a possible Tory win (its a nice enough village that people move there). Trimdon and Fishburn would be the area to watch out for in this election and that constituency...
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,018
    edited May 2017

    What odds are available for Ruth to be FM? I feel like a crazy bet

    That is far worse than crazy , it is stupendously stupid, just burn the money.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    Birmingham, yet to declare, has an electorate of 723,000, three times as large as the other authorities #wmmayor
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,082

    Roger said:

    Rather than obsessing about "Will Corbyn resign?", given the LD's rubbish showing will Farron resign?

    I'd like to see Clegg do a Lazarus
    He may be the LDs best option
    Imagine if the Lib Dems did a quick leadership shuffle, and then Labour MPs said that Clegg was their choice for PM in a coalition, not Corbyn.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    The Zoomers on my timeline seem somewhat perturbed by the current turn of events...
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,046
    Jason said:

    bobajobPB said:

    I am still too busy at work to keep up with this. Can someone of a neutral and unexcitable none Tory persuasion (e.g. Alastair) give me the OK/FUBAR level for Corbyn on a scale of 1-10. Cheers!

    I'm unsure if I count as non-Tory persuasion, but I'd say it's currently a five. It's not as bad is it could be, and it looks like he'll beat Labour's worst predictions - e.g. they've held Cardiff. Other areas look expectedly bad.

    Corbyn will stay on until the GE (there's little point in getting rid of him before then anyway).

    But it's not over yet ...
    Yes it is.
    I don't think it is. If Labour lose the mayoraltys (e.g. Manchester) then the pressure really will be back on Corbyn. Doubt that will happen, and not sure what they could do about him anyway.

    So far, there's enough 'good' for his fans and wider Labour to point at. And that's probably another victory for the Conservtives today ... ;)
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,980
    CON also gain East Sussex from NOC.
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    IanB2 said:

    Just home from work, catching up with the election news on the Beeb.

    Observations:

    Peter Kellner suggesting that this rivals 1982 (in the midst of the Falklands War) as the best Conservative local government election performance since detailed records began to be kept in the Seventies.

    Kellner also suggested that, if we tot up the combined vote for all the left-leaning parties and the combined vote for all the right-leaning parties, a small but measurable right-to-left swing is observable. The problem for the left, of course, is that their vote is much more divided.

    Saw latest results from Norfolk - Liberal Democrats gaining vote share but losing councillors, presumably because they are being swamped by a huge Ukip to Con swing. Ill omens there for Norman Lamb.

    Ukip dying everywhere. Have heard that they may finally have won a seat up in Burnley, so Ukip=0 not technically accurate, but I think it's going to be pretty close.

    LibDem gain Cromer!
    "Kellner also suggested that, if we tot up the combined vote for all the left-leaning parties and the combined vote for all the right-leaning parties, a small but measurable right-to-left swing is observable."

    Another predictable comment from yet another left-leaning psephologist!
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    danielmawbsdanielmawbs Posts: 96
    HYUFD said:

    Election Data‏ @election_data

    Walsall have voted 49.5% Conservative and 34.9% Labour in first stage of #wmmayor election

    I think Simon may have a narrow lead on first preferences because of the Labour tribal vote in Birmingham and Coventry but Street may win it overall with LD and UKIP preferences but we will see it looks close either way
    I a man offering 4.0 on bf exchange and not getting any takers so the punters don't think it's close

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    CD13CD13 Posts: 6,351
    I'm feeling some sympathy for Dianne Abbott and Emily Thornberry. "The girls stood on the burning deck, whence all but they had fled."

    Tis only a flash wound

    I stood in the polling booth yesterday with my pencil poised over the Ukip candidate and thought "What's the point now?" Ah bless, I decided, and gave them a sympathy vote.

    I'm all heart.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    DA: "I think the net losses are about 50"
    ITN:"There are actually 125 net losses so far"
    DA: "Last time I looked we had net losses of 100”
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    Saw latest results from Norfolk - Liberal Democrats gaining vote share but losing councillors, presumably because they are being swamped by a huge Ukip to Con swing. Ill omens there for Norman Lamb.

    Not all that bad for him in his own constituency though. Losing South Smallburgh and Sheringham to Tories, but balanced by Cromer and Mundesley going the opposite way. Plus the bonus of picking up Holt from UKIP. Others seem to be going to form. It will be fairly close, but the current bookie odds (Lamb favourite but not hot favourite) seem right in spite of UKIP collapse.

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    welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,460
    MTimT said:

    Scott_P said:
    Much as I think Diane Abbot deserves pretty much whatever she gets from interviewers, this is a real gotcha question. I hate interviewers who do that - the interview becomes about how smart the interviewer (thinks he/she) is versus informing the public about the issues.

    In this case, it is worse. We already know how crap Diane is.
    True, and true, but the issue is it's sinking into the collective consciousness (cf my very apolitical S Wales office, where people are now making numeracy jokes about Ms Abbott), that she/Labour simply don't do numbers and consequently look like a one legged man in an arse kicking contest on competency.

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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited May 2017

    I think about the only thing [Labour] have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.

    That's their GE slogan sorted then.

    "Labour: Not UKIP"
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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,721
    Scott_P said:
    Once the dust settles it would be interesting to see how the Libdems have done in their target seats and seats they once held. That's all that matters for the GE.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    IanB2 said:

    DA: "I think the net losses are about 50"
    ITN:"There are actually 125 net losses so far"
    DA: "Last time I looked we had net losses of 100”

    https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/860471343338446848
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,980
    RobD said:

    CON also gain East Sussex from NOC.

    And Norfolk
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    RobD said:

    CON also gain East Sussex from NOC.

    Excellent!
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    felix said:

    Freggles said:

    IanB2 said:

    Conservatives ahead on first preferences for the Tees Valley mayoralty

    Well, Felix, wherever you are, you were right.

    On the plus side, proof Corbyn needs to go!
    I'm just in! Depends on 2nd prefs of course now.
    I can't see LDs splitting enough for Labour to counteract UKIP, especially since the LD candidate took out newspaper ads urging people to use their 2 preferences to unseat Labour!
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    RhubarbRhubarb Posts: 359
    edited May 2017
    "The vote situation has developed not necessarily to Labours' advantage..."
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Edinburgh_CC: Ward 11 City Centre results: 4 elected
    Karen Doran (Lab)
    Claire Miller (Green)
    Jo Mowat (Con)
    Alasdair Rankin (SNP)
    Turnout 43.7%
    #edincount
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    justin124 said:

    Heroic spinning from Labour (1): getting shellacked nearly everywhere but bigging up the fact that they survived in bits of South Wales.

    Heroic spinning from Labour (2): being shredded by the SNP in Glasgow, but claiming their opponents will have failed if they can't get an absolute majority in a very hard to win STV election.

    I think about the only thing they have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.

    Labour have done quite well in Norfolk!
    Squeezing the Green vote in Norwich?

    I can't see them getting all that far anywhere else.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030

    HYUFD said:

    Election Data‏ @election_data

    Walsall have voted 49.5% Conservative and 34.9% Labour in first stage of #wmmayor election

    I think Simon may have a narrow lead on first preferences because of the Labour tribal vote in Birmingham and Coventry but Street may win it overall with LD and UKIP preferences but we will see it looks close either way
    I a man offering 4.0 on bf exchange and not getting any takers so the punters don't think it's close

    Punters on WM Mayor election a rather small pool, basically if Simon wins it will be because of Birmingham if Street wins it will be the outlying authorities which are key
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,502
    Alistair said:

    Regretting laying off some of my SCon over 9.5 seats bet now.

    I'm going to be tipster of the year for tipping Tories over 9.5 seats in Scotland at 20/1 if that comes off.

    I still think 4 to 6 seats more likely.
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    Arthur_PennyArthur_Penny Posts: 198
    eek said:

    Betting note - Tory candidate WINS Sedgefield.

    Sedgefield was always a possible Tory win (its a nice enough village that people move there). Trimdon and Fishburn would be the area to watch out for in this election and that constituency...
    OK: Trimdon = pretty solid Labour wins (3-seats) - about 1400 Labour - 500 UKIP - 580 Tory
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,760
    edited May 2017

    General Election
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    Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    CD13 said:

    I'm feeling some sympathy for Dianne Abbott and Emily Thornberry. "The girls stood on the burning deck, whence all but they had fled."

    Tis only a flash wound

    I stood in the polling booth yesterday with my pencil poised over the Ukip candidate and thought "What's the point now?" Ah bless, I decided, and gave them a sympathy vote.

    I'm all heart.

    Eek another Corbyn looms
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Edinburgh_CC: Ward 10 – Morningside results: 4 elected
    Nick Cook (Con)
    Melanie Main (Green)
    Neil Ross (Lib Dem)
    Mandy Watt (Lab)
    Turnout 57.3%
    #edincount
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: Birmingham part of West Midlands mayoralty count first round: 206k
    Street (Con): 75578
    Simon (Lab): 95098
    LD: 14,840
    Ukip: 7537
    Green: 9787 pic.twitter.com/Omgp2gQvup
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @STVColin: Snp lose out to LibDems in Morningside
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    Birmingham SIMON by 20k
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,344

    The Midlands looks like it will be the Labour bloodbath I was expecting. And it will be worse at the GE. If you were going to devise a political figure designed specifically to repel Midlanders Corbyn would be it. If you didn't get it quite right you'd probably end up with Ed Miliband.

    Actually, no - it's mixed. The Tories gained Derbyshire but I think have fallen short in Notts (though 11 seats still to declare), in some cases by large margins, and very nearly lost two in my former patch. They've lost in Coventry but may well win the overall West Mids results. They've piled up lots of votes in seats they already held, but seemingly failed to break through in depressed areas like Mansfield. It's a good Tory result but a reasonable Labour defence so far - but let's see the final results before concluding anything.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,298
    LAB: 46.4%
    CON: 36.9%
    LDEM: 7.2%
    GRN: 4.8%
    UKIP: 3.7%

    SIMON in the bag
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,709
    IanB2 said:

    Birmingham SIMON by 20k

    urgh... if labour win there, it will be a good result on a bad day.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    justin124 said:

    Heroic spinning from Labour (1): getting shellacked nearly everywhere but bigging up the fact that they survived in bits of South Wales.

    Heroic spinning from Labour (2): being shredded by the SNP in Glasgow, but claiming their opponents will have failed if they can't get an absolute majority in a very hard to win STV election.

    I think about the only thing they have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.

    Labour have done quite well in Norfolk!
    Squeezing the Green vote in Norwich?

    I can't see them getting all that far anywhere else.
    Yes, Greens have collapsed in Norwich, no chance of them even taking second in June
    Lewis safe as houses
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2017

    Alistair said:

    Regretting laying off some of my SCon over 9.5 seats bet now.

    I'm going to be tipster of the year for tipping Tories over 9.5 seats in Scotland at 20/1 if that comes off.

    I still think 4 to 6 seats more likely.
    I don't, pro union tacticals voting is clear. SCon are going to hoover up votes and are clearly motivated in a way SNP voters are not.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    In the local elections voters are not choosing a Prime Minister, so Corbyn is not a risk factor.

    In a GE they are, and that's likely to put more of them off.

    So no matter how bad this looks for Labour, it is likely that on June 8th it will be worse.
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527

    justin124 said:

    Heroic spinning from Labour (1): getting shellacked nearly everywhere but bigging up the fact that they survived in bits of South Wales.

    Heroic spinning from Labour (2): being shredded by the SNP in Glasgow, but claiming their opponents will have failed if they can't get an absolute majority in a very hard to win STV election.

    I think about the only thing they have going for them today is that they're doing miles better than Ukip.

    Labour have done quite well in Norfolk!
    Squeezing the Green vote in Norwich?

    I can't see them getting all that far anywhere else.
    Also gained from UKIP in Yarmouth.
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