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BREAKING: The CPS have told Channel 4 News tonight that they are considering charges against more than 30 individuals. #electionexpenses
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Tories out ! A strong CPS will continue with the cases regardless of whether the same candidates are there or not.
I still think the decision to go for the election is because of the "divorce bill". She could not get through any settlement beyond £20 bn with her current majority.
Of course, it would still be unpopular but she would not have to worry about the people for 5 years. She will have fooled the people as she has fooled her party all these years.
The most unsuccessful Home Secretary in living memory campaigning on immigration, on which she herself spectacularly failed.0 -
Indeed. The alleged number is significantly high, given the reportedly high bar for charges.0
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2nd like corbyn
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This is a disaster for Theresa May. She could be facing a reduction in her majority to, say, 75 or 950
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30? She better win a BIG majority0
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My facebook feed is already full of Tory hating posts, which it was at the last two general elections as well. Learn, you thick twats!0
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Oh, I am stunned.
Best be careful this time, Tories. Everyone breaks the rules a bit, but it appears you have egregiously and repeatedly.0 -
The next GE in 2020 call by OGH - not so much.0
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Shocking.0
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John Woodcock not prepared to back Corbyn as Prime Minister.
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Pedant mode, but haven't they been considering them since they received the files?
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So the Tories are a bunch of cheating, lying scumbags! We need independent election monitors in this country or it will truly become a banana republic one party state.0
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How, exactly, does such a person stand under the banner of a leader they have so little faith in? I know Corbyn disliked Blair, but was he ever so bold in criticism? Has to be indy, surely?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I'm clearly an old fashioned lawyer but the CPS doing a running commentary strikes me as, at best, inappropriate. Charge or don't charge but drop the might and perhaps. They are serial failures so are desperate to look half way competent so that perhaps explains it.0
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Labour to come third: you heard it here first...firstlight40 said:2nd like corbyn
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The job is half-done. We have been a one party state for a while.murali_s said:....We need independent election monitors in this country or it will truly become a banana republic one party state.
Brexit should take care of the other half of the job
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As amusing as Crick's little masturbatory reverie has been, I think it demonstrates how deep is leftish delusion at the moment. Crick and C4 news honestly thought, apropos nothing, they were on to a MAJOR scandal that was going to rock Tories to their knees and open the door for Comrade Jez's ascendence.
Delusion is a beautiful but tragic thing.0 -
Mr. Matt, not a lawyer (old-fashioned or otherwise), but I agree.0
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They didn't fiddle the votes, they spent more than they were supposed to (allegedly) - a crime which deserves punishment, but not exactly stuffing ballot boxes.murali_s said:So the Tories are a bunch of cheating, lying scumbags! We need independent election monitors in this country or it will truly become a banana republic one party state.
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Innocent until proven guilty old bean.murali_s said:So the Tories are a bunch of cheating, lying scumbags! We need independent election monitors in this country or it will truly become a banana republic one party state.
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There wasn't any fiddling.
The CPS won't prosecute.
This isn't a scandal.
George Osborne is never coming back.
Some things you have to let go, TSE.0 -
It'll come down to whether the broadcasters have the bottle to empty chair the PM.
They should invite her to all the debates. If she chooses to not attend, then fine. The opposition will have a couple of hours to discuss the merits of the government and all their good works ..
The media should put a marker down that no party leader gets a veto on the debates.0 -
Wonder how many are MPs?Morris_Dancer said:Indeed. The alleged number is significantly high, given the reportedly high bar for charges.
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Just think of the narrative, sleazy Tories, Mrs May frightened to debate...Freggles said:This is a disaster for Theresa May. She could be facing a reduction in her majority to, say, 75 or 95
Might save Labour from a wipeout.0 -
I think it's not the expenses issue per se, but the interaction between the expenses issue and trying to negotiate Brexit which will have been the decisive consideration for Theresa May.0
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Wonder if any are household names.calum said:
Wonder how many are MPs?Morris_Dancer said:Indeed. The alleged number is significantly high, given the reportedly high bar for charges.
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Ironically, only sky will have the guts to do it. The BBC obviously won't.JackW said:JackW said:
It'll come down to whether the broadcasters have the bottle to empty chair the PM.Yorkcity said:
Surely if May is invited what can they do ? If it is a Brexit election it is worth hearing the other party leaders.JackW said:
What would the legal challenge be ?Black_Rook said:
Most unlikely to happen. Presume they would be taken off the air by legal challenges, Besides, without the Prime Minister involved, how many people (especially those more inclined to support her anyway, whose minds the other parties need to change) would bother to watch anyway?JackW said:
They should.geoffw said:Dimbleby opines that other parties may "empty chair" the Cons in a TV debate.
No political party should be able to torpedo debates.
We we not invited ? ...
An empty chair with a pair of leopard skin shoes underneath would be worth a view.
They should invite her to all the debates. If she chooses to not attend, then fine. The opposition will have a couple of hours to discuss the merits of the government and all their good works ..
The media should put a marker down that no party leader gets a veto on the debates.0 -
PB Tories 4 Corbyn live in hope.TheScreamingEagles said:
Just think of the narrative, sleazy Tories, Mrs May frightened to debate...Freggles said:This is a disaster for Theresa May. She could be facing a reduction in her majority to, say, 75 or 95
Might save Labour from a wipeout.0 -
When's the next PLP meeting? Was there one today?0
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Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
The Tories spent a bit more than they should have in Cameron's 2015 election campaign in a few seats, I doubt it affects this election campaign that much beyond a few seats needing new candidates and agents0
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TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
Rubbish. Crick is an old fashioned gumshoe journo who had a good story.grabcocque said:As amusing as Crick's little masturbatory reverie has been, I think it demonstrates how deep is leftish delusion at the moment. Crick and C4 news honestly thought, apropos nothing, they were on to a MAJOR scandal that was going to rock Tories to their knees and open the door for Comrade Jez's ascendence.
Delusion is a beautiful but tragic thing.0 -
Except her Chief of Staff was involved in Thanet South.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.
She can't blame the ancien régime.
The CPS have balls, they've charged and imprisoned 4 or 5 past or serving MPs in recent years, including a cabinet minister.0 -
Mr. D, yes. But Corbyn isn't as competent as Trump.0
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When did she emerge as such? Doesn't she need to achieve things first? She hasn't had time for that yet.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
Labour4Trident.comkle4 said:
How, exactly, does such a person stand under the banner of a leader they have so little faith in? I know Corbyn disliked Blair, but was he ever so bold in criticism? Has to be indy, surely?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Er, didn't Clinton once ask why she wasn't twenty points ahead in the polls?Jonathan said:
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.
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The CPS have to show probable cause and weigh up the likelihood of a successful prosecution. Which you, as a professional law-doer are disingenuously pretending is much more likely than it is.
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Mainly because of EU workers pre Brexit and crime fell on her watch as Home Secretarysurbiton said:Tories out ! A strong CPS will continue with the cases regardless of whether the same candidates are there or not.
I still think the decision to go for the election is because of the "divorce bill". She could not get through any settlement beyond £20 bn with her current majority.
Of course, it would still be unpopular but she would not have to worry about the people for 5 years. She will have fooled the people as she has fooled her party all these years.
The most unsuccessful Home Secretary in living memory campaigning on immigration, on which she herself spectacularly failed.0 -
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
I'm struggling, and failing, to imagine any two leading politicians more different than Clinton and May, (leaving aside Trump who's different from everyone, of course).Jonathan said:
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
Mr. Eagles, but do they have brains?
Operation Charge Old White Men has a pretty high failure rate. And there was the case Mr. Charles referred to here some time ago, during Starmer's period as head of the CPS.0 -
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Honestly how long are you going to be salty that she castrated your boy Gideon?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Years? Decades? Life?0 -
Would this be the same Sky that is currently awaiting regulatory approval for its acquisition by Fox?surbiton said:
Ironically, only sky will have the guts to do it. The BBC obviously won't.JackW said:JackW said:
It'll come down to whether the broadcasters have the bottle to empty chair the PM.Yorkcity said:
Surely if May is invited what can they do ? If it is a Brexit election it is worth hearing the other party leaders.JackW said:
What would the legal challenge be ?Black_Rook said:
Most unlikely to happen. Presume they would be taken off the air by legal challenges, Besides, without the Prime Minister involved, how many people (especially those more inclined to support her anyway, whose minds the other parties need to change) would bother to watch anyway?JackW said:
They should.geoffw said:Dimbleby opines that other parties may "empty chair" the Cons in a TV debate.
No political party should be able to torpedo debates.
We we not invited ? ...
An empty chair with a pair of leopard skin shoes underneath would be worth a view.
They should invite her to all the debates. If she chooses to not attend, then fine. The opposition will have a couple of hours to discuss the merits of the government and all their good works ..
The media should put a marker down that no party leader gets a veto on the debates.0 -
Mr. Eagles, Richmond was just a tactical retreat, like when Caesar withdrew after Dyrrachium.
/trollusmaximus0 -
It is nothing to do with the sacking of George.grabcocque said:
Honestly how long are you going to be salty that she castrated your boy Gideon?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Years? Decades? Life?0 -
So what was her Pharsalus moment?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Richmond was just a tactical retreat, like when Caesar withdrew after Dyrrachium.
/trollusmaximus0 -
Chinny reckon, as we used to say in the day.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is nothing to do with the sacking of George.grabcocque said:
Honestly how long are you going to be salty that she castrated your boy Gideon?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Years? Decades? Life?0 -
Wasn't a necessary qualification for being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, after all.kle4 said:
When did she emerge as such? Doesn't she need to achieve things first? She hasn't had time for that yet.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher. 0 -
Really? Been around for years. Political operators. Tough. Not liked much. Followed on from much more charismatic predecessor. Been dreaming of the top job for years.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'm struggling, and failing, to imagine any two leading politicians more different than Clinton and May, (leaving aside Trump who's different from everyone, of course).Jonathan said:
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
A fair point indeed.AnneJGP said:
Wasn't a necessary qualification for being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, after all.kle4 said:
When did she emerge as such? Doesn't she need to achieve things first? She hasn't had time for that yet.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
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These ideas may individually get over the wire in their acceptance in Scotland, but they're far from accepted as a package.
The relatively pragmatic Tories are far from your enemy if you want an independent Scotland. Your actual enemy is clearly the somewhat brighter bloke that lives next door.
Nobody within miles is brighter than me so that one does not resonate.0 -
I doubt voters will care much beyond the seats concerned and even there I doubt it makes much difference, in US elections they spend far more and most of all it happened when Cameron was Tory leader not Maysurbiton said:
£200,000 more.HYUFD said:The Tories spent a bit more than they should have in Cameron's 2015 election campaign in a few seats, I doubt it affects this election campaign that much beyond a few seats needing new candidates and agents
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She's female, you mean? Or a touch of President Clinton?Jonathan said:
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
Please refrain from using 4chan Russian alt-right terminology like "salty" on heregrabcocque said:
Honestly how long are you going to be salty that she castrated your boy Gideon?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Years? Decades? Life?
Snowflake and triggered are banned as well, except when I use them e.g. This morning0 -
Is there anyone who can drag Diane Abbott away from the cameras? Things aren't looking good for Labour as it is and she must be shedding votes every moment she's on. Who cares whether the Tories fiddled their election expenses. It wouldn't have altered anything.0
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I mean May's about to deliver a Thatcher-level extinction event to her opposition without and the enemies within, and best of all, they NEVER SAW IT COMING.
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May is politically astute in choosing to let Corbyn do what he does. Thatcher would have totally destroyed him. I can't imagine that I'll form a line on the streets for Mrs May's funeral, but I did for her. Margaret Thatcher was a bit special.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
I think they have more in common than gender.AnneJGP said:
She's female, you mean? Or a touch of President Clinton?Jonathan said:
May has a touch of Clinton about her and the poll leads to boot.RobD said:
A bit like the FBI and Clinton's emails?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Calum, fewer than half, I'd guess (I think it was around 12 constituencies that were being looked at).
Mr. Eagles, maybe.
But May can lay the blame at Cameron's door. And that doesn't alter the fact it's her or Corbyn.
Hard to say how it'll play. Charges during the election campaign would be... interesting.0 -
Indeed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
The PM will be returned with a handsome majority but her specific judgement on various issues has been lamentable. She has the great good fortune in being opposed by a LotO so poor that an investigation by Trading Standards is substantially overdue.0 -
If they broke the rules they should be punished, otherwise why bother having the damn things? If the rules are stupid they should changed, not ignored. And the issues were too systemic to have been accidental everywhere, if the charges are true, it would have been intentional.HYUFD said:
I doubt voters will care much beyond the seats concerned and even there I doubt it makes much difference, in US elections they spend far moresurbiton said:
£200,000 more.HYUFD said:The Tories spent a bit more than they should have in Cameron's 2015 election campaign in a few seats, I doubt it affects this election campaign that much beyond a few seats needing new candidates and agents
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She seemed to have been off the screens for a few months at least, but has been popping up a lot again lately.Roger said:Is there anyone who can drag Diane Abbott away from the cameras? Things aren't looking good for Labour as it is and she must be shedding votes every moment she's on. Who cares whether the Tories fiddled their election expenses. It wouldn't have altered anything.
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TSE's dislike of Mrs May is(IMHO) all to do with the fact that her choice of shoes is infinitely preferable to his.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Its the feminine side of him that's kicking off. It'll calm down eventually.0 -
Channel 4 , ignore. Fake news merchants.0
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A bucket of snake oil would be more appropriateJackW said:It'll come down to whether the broadcasters have the bottle to empty chair the PM.
They should invite her to all the debates. If she chooses to not attend, then fine. The opposition will have a couple of hours to discuss the merits of the government and all their good works ..
The media should put a marker down that no party leader gets a veto on the debates.0 -
After that fiasco over the London terror attack suspect I'm surprised C4 are still on air...MonikerDiCanio said:Channel 4 , ignore. Fake news merchants.
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Mr. Eagles, 8 June. But...
Mr. Omnium, if the election goes ahead. Labour have to back it.
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I've never known pms to last *this* long....SquareRoot said:
TSE's dislike of Mrs May is(IMHO) all to do with the fact that her choice of shoes is infinitely preferable to his.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.
Its the feminine side of him that's kicking off. It'll calm down eventually.0 -
The CPS has no business in the world to be telling journalists in advance what it is considering: either charge or not, but shut up about it. That creep Starmer started the habit of announcing charges at press conferences as a way of getting himself known: and this is conduct which if it took place after, rather than immediately before, the bringing of charges would be contempt of court.
They have been undone by their own sloth, though. If they had been in a position to bring charges today, that would have been a game changer. Dripping poison about their vague intentions into the ears of journalists doesn't cut it.0 -
Imagine a whole elction campaign like this.
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Anyway, I must be off. We'll see what tomorrow brings.0
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Tory sabotage to stop him rallying his troops.nunu said:Imagine a whole elction campaign like this.
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LOL only a Tory could come out with that bollox. They are lying cheating toerags and should be jailed , banana republic does not describe it.HYUFD said:
I doubt voters will care much beyond the seats concerned and even there I doubt it makes much difference, in US elections they spend far more and most of all it happened when Cameron was Tory leader not Maysurbiton said:
£200,000 more.HYUFD said:The Tories spent a bit more than they should have in Cameron's 2015 election campaign in a few seats, I doubt it affects this election campaign that much beyond a few seats needing new candidates and agents
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-2017-general-election-a-poll-that-britain-does-not-need
A poll that Britain does not need, but that Britain wants! 0 -
I thought I was enjoying this but now I'm wondering whether I'm just having hysterics.Roger said:Is there anyone who can drag Diane Abbott away from the cameras? Things aren't looking good for Labour as it is and she must be shedding votes every moment she's on. Who cares whether the Tories fiddled their election expenses. It wouldn't have altered anything.
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FTSE drops 180 points. You would have expected big business to support the Tories.0
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:Let's take Woodcock's reasoning backwards here :kle4 said:
How, exactly, does such a person stand under the banner of a leader they have so little faith in? I know Corbyn disliked Blair, but was he ever so bold in criticism? Has to be indy, surely?TheScreamingEagles said:
Through some miracle or other Labour get 270 seats, enough for a coalition or minority gov't with the SNP (They are one vote short).
Farron says he can't countenance Corbyn as PM and will support for Hammond (May has resigned perhaps) to have the support of the house. But they are one vote short - the support of the Commons depends on Woodcock after taking all votes in the round into account - does he HONESTLY vote against the Labour Queens speech or abstain or some such if his is the neccesary vote ?
His position is utterly ludicrous I'm afraid if he decides to run as a Labour & Coop candidate.0 -
He'll be knackered though after all that time avoiding the available seats.kle4 said:
Tory sabotage to stop him rallying his troops.nunu said:Imagine a whole elction campaign like this.
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/8544019933890928650 -
Stuck in the toilets again?dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/854402190567514112
Poor Old Jezza, what a shame.0 -
They should just carry on without him. Hoping the election campaign follows the same path...dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/854402190567514112
Poor Old Jezza, what a shame.0 -
Did you castigate Cameron for his yuge reluctance to debate with (in English English) the Milidweeb? What's different?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nonsense. Thatcher would have put up a candidate in Richmond Park, Mrs May is frit, as evidenced by her failure to debate Corbyn.grabcocque said:TSE your May denialism makes you go to some very strange and dark places.
Perhaps you'd feel more at peace if you came to terms with the emergence of May as the greatest Tory PM since Thatcher.0 -
Not as knacked as he will be after working everyday for next 7 weeks. He will need 3 months off as time in lieu.Omnium said:
He'll be knackered though after all that time avoiding the available seats.kle4 said:
Tory sabotage to stop him rallying his troops.nunu said:Imagine a whole elction campaign like this.
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Am I the only person that thinks this market (https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.131081552) is staggeringly good value.
To trigger an election under the FTPA you need the votes of two-thirds of the Commons. I believe there will be - and this is a technical term - a metric shit tonne of abstentions. A great many Labour MPs, and even quite a few Conservative and SNP MPs, will say "Obviously, I would have voted in favour, but I was out campaigning". It is quite possible the government comes up short at the first attempt.
Of course, there will be a simple one line enabling bill tabled. But could it cause the election to slip by a week or two? Yes.
It is probably an 85% probability the election is on 8 June. But the odds suggest a 97-98% probability. That's a great value bet, and one where there might be multiple trading opportunities to leave the party with a profit.0 -
The job of the right wing press from this point on is to tie every viable replacement labour leader to corbyn.
The job of every viable replacement labour leader is to avoid being tied to Corbyn at all costs.0 -
Look at the pound - rocketed todaysurbiton said:FTSE drops 180 points. You would have expected big business to support the Tories.
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They don't like uncertainty.surbiton said:FTSE drops 180 points. You would have expected big business to support the Tories.
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Or the £ going up.rottenborough said:
They don't like uncertainty.surbiton said:FTSE drops 180 points. You would have expected big business to support the Tories.
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We may see more of this. A lot more. Vote for me as a decent Labour MP, forget Corbyn, he'll be gone soon etc etcPulpstar said:
:Let's take Woodcock's reasoning backwards here :kle4 said:
How, exactly, does such a person stand under the banner of a leader they have so little faith in? I know Corbyn disliked Blair, but was he ever so bold in criticism? Has to be indy, surely?TheScreamingEagles said:
Through some miracle or other Labour get 270 seats, enough for a coalition or minority gov't with the SNP (They are one vote short).
Farron says he can't countenance Corbyn as PM and will support for Hammond (May has resigned perhaps) to have the support of the house. But they are one vote short - the support of the Commons depends on Woodcock after taking all votes in the round into account - does he HONESTLY vote against the Labour Queens speech or abstain or some such if his is the neccesary vote ?
His position is utterly ludicrous I'm afraid if he decides to run as a Labour & Coop candidate.0 -
Ironically, a very good opportunity to declare their independence.rcs1000 said:
Would this be the same Sky that is currently awaiting regulatory approval for its acquisition by Fox?surbiton said:
Ironically, only sky will have the guts to do it. The BBC obviously won't.JackW said:JackW said:
It'll come down to whether the broadcasters have the bottle to empty chair the PM.Yorkcity said:
Surely if May is invited what can they do ? If it is a Brexit election it is worth hearing the other party leaders.JackW said:
What would the legal challenge be ?Black_Rook said:
Most unlikely to happen. Presume they would be taken off the air by legal challenges, Besides, without the Prime Minister involved, how many people (especially those more inclined to support her anyway, whose minds the other parties need to change) would bother to watch anyway?JackW said:
They should.geoffw said:Dimbleby opines that other parties may "empty chair" the Cons in a TV debate.
No political party should be able to torpedo debates.
We we not invited ? ...
An empty chair with a pair of leopard skin shoes underneath would be worth a view.
They should invite her to all the debates. If she chooses to not attend, then fine. The opposition will have a couple of hours to discuss the merits of the government and all their good works ..
The media should put a marker down that no party leader gets a veto on the debates.0
