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Neither the U.K. or the EU understand the political drivers of the other.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, exactly. What's more, they see the EU as the protector of their democracies and a guarantee they won't fall back into the bad old days of military coups and all that bad stuff which was so much part of their post-WWII history. It's not just about economics, a point which you've have thought the Brexiteers, of all people, should be able to understand.SouthamObserver said:Most of the countries badly affected by the Euro have done spectacularly well out of membership of the EU. Spain, Greece and Portugal have been almost literally transformed as a result of joining up. You can see it clearly when you fly down to either - the roads and railways that were not there before, and then driving into both cities - the contrast with how it was 25 years ago is profound. I don't know Greece at all, but I bet it is the same there.
That's why we're leaving.0 -
Your Count believes in one man, one vote. He's the man and he has the vote.slade said:
Reminds me of the fact that in a democracy your vote counts but in feudalism it's your count that votes.PlatoSaid said:Dan
I just had to RT this...made me properly laugh out loud. I'm just researching to find out who my local Count is https://t.co/xLOzTeaFSy
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Justin
.@aljwhite people in the U.K. Need to write their local Count or whatever the fuck they have that's like a senator/congressman.
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When Charlie Windsor starts warning about 'demigods reminiscent of the 1930's' yesterday I think it's a pretty good bet that Trump's visit wont happen. So not a good result for Tess.Jobabob said:@Roger @Ishmael_X @Danny565
Yes, one of the very few good consequences of Trump is he has managed to unite the left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, and libertarian right around a common cause. His sinister brand of sectarian closed nationalist alt-rightism is toxic. The new dividing line is even more defined than open vs closed - it's sane vs insane.0 -
Anti EU sentiment in UK, strong, deeper routed?
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OK, but it clearly didn't happen in the US election.Jobabob said:
To be clear I'm talking at a global level (internationally).RobD said:
Did it really? These attributes were all pretty clear to see before the election, yet he still won.Jobabob said:@Roger @Ishmael_X @Danny565
Yes, one of the very few good consequences of Trump is he has managed to unite the left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, and libertarian right around a common cause. His sinister brand of sectarian closed nationalist alt-rightism is toxic. The new dividing line is even more defined than open vs closed - it's sane vs insane.0 -
I've been thinking about fake news, and I've been wondering what makes the perfect fake news story.
So this is completely fake as far as I know, but I think it ticks a lot of boxes.
"Burnham to quit Labour once in office as mayor"
Just to be clear, this isn't true.
So boxes that are ticked in the fake news world
1. Hard to disprove
2. You're playing two sensitive parties (Labour, Burnham)
3. It wouldn't go away if you ignored it because there's a bigger story carrying it along
4. It plays with a bigger narrative
Undoubtedly the bad things would of course be
1. It's totally made up
2. The wrong fake news at the wrong time
I rather hope you'll shoot this down, as in such a thing is ridiculous. But it might fool me I think.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-38807945
"As a person classed as a sinner and not worthy to get married in a church why should I be obliged and forced to pay a penny towards the costs of said church?"
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Corbynites might love this. "Blair’s babies’ even more rightwing than ‘Thatcher’s children'".
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Maybe, but the notion that we uniquely have inflation because of a falling currency, as is constantly peddled these days, looks like tosh.rcs1000 said:
You're comparing December with January numbers. Our January figures will move up with commodity prices.chestnut said:
"In perhaps the most striking development, European Union statistics agency Eurostat said inflation across the 19 countries that share the euro currency rose sharply in January — a move that will likely encourage critics who think it’s time for the European Central Bank to start withdrawing its stimulus programs.Roger said:
The Euro hasn't fallen 15% in six months.SeanT said:
You underestimate the misery caused by the euro. This isn't a chortling matterRichard_Nabavi said:Calm down, folks.
1. The EU is not going to break up any time soon (although it's conceivable that Greece might fall out of the Euro, not before time).
2. The EU is being entirely rational in thinking that, faced with a lurch to US protectionism and isolationism, the answer is for the EU27 to remain united. In fact, from their point of view, 'more Europe' is a sensible answer to Trump's crude attempts to throw his weight around, plus the other risks identified in Tusk's letter. What you absolutely have to understand is that the EU is largely built on the wish to resist US hegemony. Of course Trumpism will reinforce that tendency; that's entirely natural.
3. Brexit is obviously a complicating factor in this from the point of view of the EU27, but it's also an opportunity for them. Free of the dead weight of the UK, they can get on with closer union. Good for them, we should wish them well.
The centripetal forces within the EU are, arguably, just as strong as the centrifugal.
Usually, nations are formed in opposition to "the other" - cf the formation of Britain against the menacing "other" of Catholic France and Spain. And it would seem the time is ripe for otherisation of America, Britain, Asia, Islam, by the EU, to forge a true EU identity.
But. But but but. The EU simply isn't working for too many people. I see trouble ahead.
Inflation jumped to an annual 1.8 percent in January, from 1.1 percent the month before."
For reference, UK inflation is lower at 1.6%. There seems to be some kind of disconnect between the falling/rising currency and cost of living argument we've seen deployed on here for months and months.0 -
Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.0
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I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
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The problem is that the Sane (as you see them) have come up with some pretty Insane policies. That's why they've lost popularity.Jobabob said:@Roger @Ishmael_X @Danny565
Yes, one of the very few good consequences of Trump is he has managed to unite the left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, and libertarian right around a common cause. His sinister brand of sectarian closed nationalist alt-rightism is toxic. The new dividing line is even more defined than open vs closed - it's sane vs insane.0 -
How much will MUFC get by unloading the overweight one?FrancisUrquhart said:Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.
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How much will MUFC get by unloading the overweight one?FrancisUrquhart said:Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.
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Didn't the EU have competencies over a wide range of issues, not just those relating to trade?OllyT said:
I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
You can try. The risk of that strategy is that you end up covered in poo.MikeSmithson said:
And you cannot polish a turd.TheScreamingEagles said:Jez is crap, he's the worst strategist since Japan decided to attack the American Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor to keep America out of WWII.
Just ask Hilary Benn.
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That could describe a number of the MUFC bench warmers....dr_spyn said:
How much will MUFC get by unloading the overweight one?FrancisUrquhart said:Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.
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The Leave intelligentsia might accept the US taking control from the UK, but I doubt many Leave voters will.OllyT said:
I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
I'm aware of the result of the US electionRobD said:
OK, but it clearly didn't happen in the US election.Jobabob said:
To be clear I'm talking at a global level (internationally).RobD said:
Did it really? These attributes were all pretty clear to see before the election, yet he still won.Jobabob said:@Roger @Ishmael_X @Danny565
Yes, one of the very few good consequences of Trump is he has managed to unite the left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, and libertarian right around a common cause. His sinister brand of sectarian closed nationalist alt-rightism is toxic. The new dividing line is even more defined than open vs closed - it's sane vs insane.0 -
Yes, I think your earlier post about the anti-Americanism behind the reaction to Obama was quite astute.Danny565 said:
The Leave intelligentsia might accept the US taking control from the UK, but I doubt many Leave voters will.OllyT said:
I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
I have been watching some of the debate.
What a sight! Our Sovereign* Parliament in full flow, debating the future of the Nation.
Exactly what the Brexit vote was all about.
And given the calibre of some of those speaking, what a nightmare...
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Is there time to get more Oscar nominations presented to the Academy Awards? I was thinking of this odious trio of flotsam - Schumer, Skinner, and Mr Wooden, Keir Starmer.0
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I get it now, it's only certain bits of sovereignty that were important. Perhaps "Take Back Control (Except for the Bits we hand over to America)" wouldn't have been quite as effective a campaign slogan!RobD said:
Didn't the EU have competencies over a wide range of issues, not just those relating to trade?OllyT said:
I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
MoronCornishBlue said:
Lots of lovely new roads for the Germans to drive on en route to their island retreats.SouthamObserver said:
Most of the countries badly affected by the Euro have done spectacularly well out of membership of the EU. Spain, Greece and Portugal have been almost literally transformed as a result of joining up. You can see it clearly when you fly down to either - the roads and railways that were not there before, and then driving into both cities - the contrast with how it was 25 years ago is profound. I don't know Greece at all, but I bet it is the same there.Richard_Nabavi said:
I don't underestimate it, but in most of the countries which are badly affected, the Euro is still popular. Even Greece, although reality is gradually beating them out of their love of the Euro.SeanT said:You underestimate the misery caused by the euro. This isn't a chortling matter
The centripetal forces within the EU are, arguably, just as strong as the centrifugal.
Usually, nations are formed in opposition to "the other" - cf the formation of Britain against the menacing "other" of Catholic France and Spain. And it would seem the time is ripe for otherisation of America, Britain, Asia, Islam, by the EU, to forge a true EU identity.
But. But but but. The EU simply isn't working for too many people. I see trouble ahead.
Yes, there's trouble ahead. But Trump is pushing them together, not pushing them apart. He's actually providing a rather handy 'Other' for them to contrast themselves with.
Not so great for the millions of unemployed Greeks literally going no where in their lives.
But hey-ho. That's life in the Fourth Reich. Put up and shut up.0 -
dr_spyn said:
How much will MUFC get by unloading the overweight one?FrancisUrquhart said:Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.
Hopefully enough to buy Griezman and some change.dr_spyn said:
How much will MUFC get by unloading the overweight one?FrancisUrquhart said:Watford striker Odion Ighalo has agreed a permanent move to Changchun Yatai for £20 million...somebody saw them coming.
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Alanbrooke said:
Yes, most commodities have jumped of late.rcs1000 said:chestnut said:
You're comparing December with January numbers. Our January figures will move up with commodity prices.Roger said:
"In perhaps the most striking development, European Union statistics agency Eurostat said inflation across the 19 countries that sf disconnect between the falling/rising currency and cost of living argument we've seen deployed on here for months and months.SeanT said:
The Euro hasn't fallen 15% in six months.Richard_Nabavi said:Calm down, folks.
1. The EU is not going to break up any time soon (although it's conceivable that Greece might f
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But. But but but. The EU simply isn't working for too many people. I see trouble ahead.
steel has gone up by 40-50% in the last 6 monthsrcs1000 said:
You're comparing December with January numbers. Our January figures will move up with commodity prices.chestnut said:
"In perhaps the most striking development, European Union statistics agency Eurostat said inflation across the 19 countries that share the euro currency rose sharply in January — a move that will likely encourage critics who think it’s time for the European Central Bank to start withdrawing its stimulus programs.Roger said:
The Euro hasn't fallen 15% in six months.SeanT said:
You underestimate the misery caused by the euro. This isn't a chortling matterRichard_Nabavi said:Calm down, folks.
1. The EU is not going to break up any time soon (although it's conceivable that Greece might fall out of the Ethe dead weight of the UK, they can get on with closer union. Good for them, we should wish them well.
The centripetal forces within the EU are, arguably, just as strong as the centrifugal.
Usually, nations are formed in opposition to "the other" - cf the formation of Britain against the menacing "other" of Catholic France and Spain. And it would seem the time is ripe for otherisation of America, Britain, Asia, Islam, by the EU, to forge a true EU identity.
But. But but but. The EU simply isn't working for too many people. I see trouble ahead.
Inflation jumped to an annual 1.8 percent in January, from 1.1 percent the month before."
For reference, UK inflation is lower at 1.6%. There seems to be some kind of disconnect between the falling/rising currency and cost of living argument we've seen deployed on here for months and months.
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Because when you Lefties get your act together and get elected you can change it, in the EU, you cant. THAT is sovereignty.OllyT said:
I agree with that assessment and if it is the case I assume that Leavers would therefore oppose such a deal on the grounds of loss of that all important sovereignty.rcs1000 said:
I cannot see a US-UK trade deal that does not require the UK government to accept the decisions of US ISDS Tribunals that meet in secret, and are able to over-rule parliament.Danny565 said:
She's said she wants to sign a trade deal with Trump, even after Trump's made clear that any deals would involve massive concessions and loss of control from the other country.HYUFD said:
Apart from Farage and probably not him who has ever said that? Certainly not May who has been respectful of the EU and Trump but prepared to fight for the best deal for Britain which respects the Brexit voteDanny565 said:Theresa May (and a lot of PB Brexiteers) don't seem to understand that a lot of Leave voters really meant what they said when they said they wanted independence and British control over our own affairs. They didn't mean they were happy to be controlled by another country, as long as it was the US instead of Europe.
Except I won't hold my breath because I guarantee many of them will accept the deal and come up with some weasel words to explain how this is somehow different !0 -
Well yes.Scott_P said:I have been watching some of the debate.
What a sight! Our Sovereign* Parliament in full flow, debating the future of the Nation.
Exactly what the Brexit vote was all about.
And given the calibre of some of those speaking, what a nightmare...
*Yes, even today
However we get an upgrade in smoothness and coherence because David Lammy is speaking. It's a tricky thing to balance our sure knowledge of him as the most stupid man on the planet with his apparently smoother delivery.0 -
Those Walloons will envy us...AlsoIndigo said:Because when you Lefties get your act together and get elected you can change it, in the EU, you cant. THAT is sovereignty.
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PoliticsHome @politicshome 5m5 minutes ago
NEW: Labour's Clive Lewis to oppose 'hard Brexit' Article 50 bill at third reading 'whatever the consequences'0 -
Have you watched much of the EU Parliament?Scott_P said:I have been watching some of the debate.
What a sight! Our Sovereign* Parliament in full flow, debating the future of the Nation.
Exactly what the Brexit vote was all about.
And given the calibre of some of those speaking, what a nightmare...
*Yes, even today
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Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
Lebanon 159 N Y
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Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
There was certainly a lot of guff, emanating from the house of commons today, from both sides I might add. Fortunately there were many like Julian Lewis, the Conservative chair of the Commons defence committee, his entire speech consisted of one pithy sentence.Omnium said:
Well yes.Scott_P said:I have been watching some of the debate.
What a sight! Our Sovereign* Parliament in full flow, debating the future of the Nation.
Exactly what the Brexit vote was all about.
And given the calibre of some of those speaking, what a nightmare...
*Yes, even today
However we get an upgrade in smoothness and coherence because David Lammy is speaking. It's a tricky thing to balance our sure knowledge of him as the most stupid man on the planet with his apparently smoother delivery.
“The people have decided, and I’m going to vote accordingly.”0 -
The original paper: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/div-classtitlethatchers-children-blairs-babies-political-socialization-and-trickle-down-value-change-an-age-period-and-cohort-analysisdiv/38664695516495C5A6C08BC656EEAB20/core-readerdr_spyn said:Corbynites might love this. "Blair’s babies’ even more rightwing than ‘Thatcher’s children'".
https://www.ft.com/content/8352aa06-e7cc-11e6-893c-082c54a7f5390 -
They're causally linked because Trump has hotels in key US allies, who Obama was not prepared to restrict.slade said:Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
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Concerning the brief discussion on the last thread about the pro and anti visiting petitions for Trump I have two thoughts.
First:as has been pointed out by williamglenn, the pro petition has definitely not been written by an anglophone. Note its wording:
"Donald Trump should be invited to make an official State Visit because he is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that supports free speech and does not believe that people that appose our point of view should be gagged."
Note the "and U.K. is a country...". The "appose" may be a simple typo. I don't know. "leader of a free world"??
None of this proves provenance of course, but I wonder.
I find that essentially all phishing bait written in English can be quickly spotted by their alien infelicities.
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Centrifugal force is an "apparent" force, hence the gag about fiction and bolding the word centrifugal.Ishmael_Z said:
Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?FrancisUrquhart said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
In Newtonian mechanics, the centrifugal force is an inertial force (also called a 'fictitious' or 'pseudo' force) directed away from the axis of rotation that appears to act on all objects when viewed in a rotating reference frame.
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
Sorry about the alignment - looked OK when I posted.slade said:Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
Lebanon 159 N Y0 -
Is it "code" tags that make that work? I forgetslade said:
Sorry about the alignment - looked OK when I posted.slade said:Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
Lebanon 159 N Y0 -
slade said:
Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed by their citizens (1975-2015) Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels Iran 0 Y N Iraq 0 Y N Libya 0 Y N Somalia 0 Y N Sudan 0 Y N Syria 0 Y N Yemen 0 Y N Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y UAE 314 N Y Egypt 162 N Y Lebanon 159 N Y
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Ambassador Stevens among others might quibble with some of those figures if he were alive. The fact is that Trump's administration didn't come up with any list of countries at all.slade said:
Sorry about the alignment - looked OK when I posted.slade said:Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
Lebanon 159 N Y0 -
Here's a proper gag:FrancisUrquhart said:
Centrifugal force is an "apparent" force, hence the gag about fiction and bolding the word centrifugal.Ishmael_Z said:
Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?FrancisUrquhart said:
In Newtonian mechanics, the centrifugal force is an inertial force (also called a 'fictitious' or 'pseudo' force) directed away from the axis of rotation that appears to act on all objects when viewed in a rotating reference frame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?
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LOL. What geek doesn't love a bit of xkcd.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Here's a proper gag:
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slade said:
Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed by their citizens (1975-2015) Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels Iran 0 Y N Iraq 0 Y N Libya 0 Y N Somalia 0 Y N Sudan 0 Y N Syria 0 Y N Yemen 0 Y N Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y UAE 314 N Y Egypt 162 N Y Lebanon 159 N Y
No Americans have been killed by Iraqis? Who killed all those American soldiers then? Or were they all killed by Saudis posing as Iraqis?
(Incidentally I think that was the Americans' own stupid fault, but the list as written is utterly absurd. If it means 'Americans killed on American territory' that would make more sense, but would still technically exclude Libya.)
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The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
Democrats on the US Senate Finance Committee are boycotting votes for two of President Donald Trump's cabinet nominees, forcing a postponement.
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Your figures are wrong.slade said:Just to confirm where President Trump's interests are:
No of Americans killed Banned by Trump Has Trump Hotels
by their citizens (1975-2015)
Iran 0 Y N
Iraq 0 Y N
Libya 0 Y N
Somalia 0 Y N
Sudan 0 Y N
Syria 0 Y N
Yemen 0 Y N
Saudi Arabia 2369 N Y
UAE 314 N Y
Egypt 162 N Y
Lebanon 159 N Y
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We did elect them.SimonStClare said:
There was certainly a lot of guff, emanating from the house of commons today, from both sides I might add. Fortunately there were many like Julian Lewis, the Conservative chair of the Commons defence committee, his entire speech consisted of one pithy sentence.Omnium said:
Well yes.Scott_P said:I have been watching some of the debate.
What a sight! Our Sovereign* Parliament in full flow, debating the future of the Nation.
Exactly what the Brexit vote was all about.
And given the calibre of some of those speaking, what a nightmare...
*Yes, even today
However we get an upgrade in smoothness and coherence because David Lammy is speaking. It's a tricky thing to balance our sure knowledge of him as the most stupid man on the planet with his apparently smoother delivery.
“The people have decided, and I’m going to vote accordingly.”
And actually I don't mind the odd poor speech, and I don't even mind the odd prepared, polished and free-of-content speech. I think that this is precisely what we should encourage.
Democracy turns out to be tricky.0 -
The presence of Quebec pulls Canada to the Left, and also forces a system of bilinguism and compromise on it to maintain its federal union. It also tried to establish reserves, or assimilate, its native peoples rather than outright conquest.dr_spyn said:
There's also a desire to differentiate itself from the US, which helps to maintain the monarchy, but also means it went fully metric fairly enthusiastically, embraces social healthcare and is less tub-thumping about its nationhood.
But, there are plenty of Canadians who are right-wing, and the Canadian Conservatives clocked almost 40% of the vote less than six years ago.
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The White Rabbit just said that, incomprehensibly as he played no previous part in the conversation. Is there an element of sockpuppetry here?Scott_P said:
The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
rottenborough said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome 5m5 minutes ago
NEW: Labour's Clive Lewis to oppose 'hard Brexit' Article 50 bill at third reading 'whatever the consequences'
There is no soft or hard Brexit at this point. We just have to activate A50, then the negotiations commence.
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I think they are changing to PR for the next election, at least the Liberals promised they would. The UK Parliament will soon become one of the last bastions of FPTP (and long may that continue).Casino_Royale said:
The presence of Quebec pulls Canada to the Left, and also forces a system of bilinguism and compromise on it to maintain its federal union. It also tried to establish reserves, or assimilate, its native peoples rather than outright conquest.dr_spyn said:
There's also a desire to differentiate itself from the US, which helps to maintain the monarchy, but also means it went fully metric fairly enthusiastically, embraces social healthcare and is less tub-thumping about its nationhood.
But, there are plenty of Canadians who are right-wing, and the Canadian Conservatives clocked almost 40% of the vote less than six years ago.
Better than Cameron did.0 -
It was Francis who said it on my thread...Ishmael_Z said:
The White Rabbit just said that, incomprehensibly as he played no previous part in the conversation. Is there an element of sockpuppetry here?Scott_P said:
The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
You could define the imbalance between centrifugal and centripetal forces as the definition of General relativity. Stuff that happens at a distance isn't quite the same as the other stuff that happens at the other distance.0
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Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
It's easy to accommodate newcomers when you have one of the lowest population densities in the world.Casino_Royale said:
The presence of Quebec pulls Canada to the Left, and also forces a system of bilinguism and compromise on it to maintain its federal union. It also tried to establish reserves, or assimilate, its native peoples rather than outright conquest.dr_spyn said:
There's also a desire to differentiate itself from the US, which helps to maintain the monarchy, but also means it went fully metric fairly enthusiastically, embraces social healthcare and is less tub-thumping about its nationhood.
But, there are plenty of Canadians who are right-wing, and the Canadian Conservatives clocked almost 40% of the vote less than six years ago.
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You're living in the darkest timeline.Jobabob said:
It was Francis who said it on my thread...Ishmael_Z said:
The White Rabbit just said that, incomprehensibly as he played no previous part in the conversation. Is there an element of sockpuppetry here?Scott_P said:
The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology? 0 -
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I'll believe it when I see it.RobD said:
I think they are changing to PR for the next election, at least the Liberals promised they would. The UK Parliament will soon become one of the last bastions of FPTP (and long may that continue).Casino_Royale said:
The presence of Quebec pulls Canada to the Left, and also forces a system of bilinguism and compromise on it to maintain its federal union. It also tried to establish reserves, or assimilate, its native peoples rather than outright conquest.dr_spyn said:
There's also a desire to differentiate itself from the US, which helps to maintain the monarchy, but also means it went fully metric fairly enthusiastically, embraces social healthcare and is less tub-thumping about its nationhood.
But, there are plenty of Canadians who are right-wing, and the Canadian Conservatives clocked almost 40% of the vote less than six years ago.
Better than Cameron did.
Either way: if the Liberals think it'll lock the Tories out of power in Canada for a generation (which is what they want) I think they'll be disappointed.0 -
No, it's a Community referenceFrancisUrquhart said:Is it proof of the multiverse?
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I think I entered the twilight zone when that Boy Scout chap was at large.RobD said:
You're living in the darkest timeline.Jobabob said:
It was Francis who said it on my thread...Ishmael_Z said:
The White Rabbit just said that, incomprehensibly as he played no previous part in the conversation. Is there an element of sockpuppetry here?Scott_P said:
The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
My science gag missed it target again :-(Scott_P said:
No, it's a Community referenceFrancisUrquhart said:Is it proof of the multiverse?
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Like a lending library?Scott_P said:
No, it's a Community referenceFrancisUrquhart said:Is it proof of the multiverse?
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The forces only exactly balance if the object is traveling in an orbit. If the object escapes it's orbit then it is because the forces didn't exactly balance which is possible.Scott_P said:
The forces must EXACTLY balance, hence the gag...Ishmael_Z said:Both centripetal and centrifugal force are actual things in Newtonian physics. I don't expect you or Scott actually to know anything as difficult as that, but surely you can google this stuff before making prats of yourselves?
Undergraduate degree #1 was engineering, so I think I some idea. Chance of an apology?0 -
Easier to find the space, certainly, but social issues don't go away - most Canadians live in the same places.AndyJS said:
It's easy to accommodate newcomers when you have one of the lowest population densities in the world.Casino_Royale said:
The presence of Quebec pulls Canada to the Left, and also forces a system of bilinguism and compromise on it to maintain its federal union. It also tried to establish reserves, or assimilate, its native peoples rather than outright conquest.dr_spyn said:
There's also a desire to differentiate itself from the US, which helps to maintain the monarchy, but also means it went fully metric fairly enthusiastically, embraces social healthcare and is less tub-thumping about its nationhood.
But, there are plenty of Canadians who are right-wing, and the Canadian Conservatives clocked almost 40% of the vote less than six years ago.
Better than Cameron did.
Vancouver has changed massively over the last 30 years.0 -
The quote system is messed up.FrancisUrquhart said:
My science gag missed it target again :-(Scott_P said:
No, it's a Community referenceFrancisUrquhart said:Is it proof of the multiverse?
Engineering apology #1 was degree so I think I some idea. Chance of an undergraduate?0 -
If the object is not in orbit then the forces are not necessarily Centripetal/CentrifugalPhilip_Thompson said:The forces only exactly balance if the object is traveling in an orbit. If the object escapes it's orbit then it is because the forces didn't exactly balance which is possible.
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Isn't that what SeanT thinks on a night out?williamglenn said:Chance of an undergraduate?
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You're too old for that now, old chap!williamglenn said:
The quote system is messed up.FrancisUrquhart said:
My science gag missed it target again :-(Scott_P said:
No, it's a Community referenceFrancisUrquhart said:Is it proof of the multiverse?
Engineering apology #1 was degree so I think I some idea. Chance of an undergraduate?0 -
Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html0 -
"It's a tricky thing to do because it's a large sum so of course you have to figure out how to do that. It's not as an escrow account in some of the other cases where it might be 25 or 30 million euros … and therefore I do respect that it's a complicated matter and it may take a little more time."FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem, not that Apple doesn't want to pay
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Couldn't they have just used Apple Pay and turned up at EU HQ and deeped their iPhone 8.RobD said:
"It's a tricky thing to do because it's a large sum so of course you have to figure out how to do that. It's not as an escrow account in some of the other cases where it might be 25 or 30 million euros … and therefore I do respect that it's a complicated matter and it may take a little more time."FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
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LOL. I love the thought of paying a $14bn fine with ApplePay.FrancisUrquhart said:
Couldn't they have just used Apple Pay and turned up at EU HQ and deeped their iPhone 8.RobD said:
"It's a tricky thing to do because it's a large sum so of course you have to figure out how to do that. It's not as an escrow account in some of the other cases where it might be 25 or 30 million euros … and therefore I do respect that it's a complicated matter and it may take a little more time."FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem, not that Apple doesn't want to pay0 -
If these people move further to the right with age, they'll be real fascists by the time they're 50.wasd said:
The original paper: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/div-classtitlethatchers-children-blairs-babies-political-socialization-and-trickle-down-value-change-an-age-period-and-cohort-analysisdiv/38664695516495C5A6C08BC656EEAB20/core-readerdr_spyn said:Corbynites might love this. "Blair’s babies’ even more rightwing than ‘Thatcher’s children'".
https://www.ft.com/content/8352aa06-e7cc-11e6-893c-082c54a7f5390 -
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.0 -
I think you make the mistake of demonising your political opponents. Whilst it does appear to be very clear that people become more conservative/right wing as they age, I think they still retains a moral compass that prevents them becoming unacceptably right wing.rural_voter said:
If these people move further to the right with age, they'll be real fascists by the time they're 50.wasd said:
The original paper: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/div-classtitlethatchers-children-blairs-babies-political-socialization-and-trickle-down-value-change-an-age-period-and-cohort-analysisdiv/38664695516495C5A6C08BC656EEAB20/core-readerdr_spyn said:Corbynites might love this. "Blair’s babies’ even more rightwing than ‘Thatcher’s children'".
https://www.ft.com/content/8352aa06-e7cc-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539
Most people are decent and want the best for their communities. The rest difference between right and left is the process not the aim.0 -
ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.
I think gold-plating (of rules) civil servants are part of Brexit.
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RobD said:RobD said:
If @Scott_P's first degree was in Engineering, I wonder what the second was.... [insert some twitter joke here]
*innocent face*
Community Chance?Scott_P said:
If the object is not in orbit then the forces are not necessarily Centripetal/CentrifugalPhilip_Thompson said:The forces only exactly balance if the object is traveling in an orbit. If the object escapes it's orbit then it is because the forces didn't exactly balance which is possible.
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There is a famous Irish poker player who when asked what the difference between Irish and British was he said you guys see a new rule as one to be unerringly adhered to, we Irish see a new rule as a fresh challenge to circumvent.ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.0 -
British politicians thought that the EU was all about 'brotherhood of nations'.ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.
French politicians knew it was 'a continuation of war by other means'.0 -
Agreed. My father, who is ardently pro-European, was very angry with a 12 page set of animal welfare rules (I think it was on caged chickens) drafted by the Dutch, which became 7 pages for the French and a whopping 248 for the British.MarkHopkins said:ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.
I think gold-plating (of rules) civil servants are part of Brexit.
That does not however excuse the many stupid things they have done without any help at all that we should simply have ignored.0 -
Liam Flood?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is a famous Irish poker player who when asked what the difference between Irish and British was he said you guys see a new rule as one to be unerringly adhered to, we Irish see a new rule as a fresh challenge to circumvent.ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.0 -
So from June to December UK inflation has increased from 0.5% to 1.6% and Eurozone inflation has increased from 0.2% to 1.8%.
I wonder if on Eurozone political websites there are people copying tweets saying 'Five percent increase in marmite price is the fault of Brexit'.
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I got knocked out of EPT Ireland by Andy Black a few years back.Jobabob said:
Liam Flood?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is a famous Irish poker player who when asked what the difference between Irish and British was he said you guys see a new rule as one to be unerringly adhered to, we Irish see a new rule as a fresh challenge to circumvent.ydoethur said:
With hindsight, the great missed opportunity we had in Europe was that we stuck religiously to the rules. Had we gamed the system like all the others (with the possible exception of the Germans) and particularly if we had gone after our interests in the way the French did (e.g. getting British beef banned from all markets in 1996 so they could move in, despite France having twice the rate of BSE that Britain did and not even taking basic precautions on offal or testing, allowing the contaminated meat to enter the food chain) we would all have loved Europe and ironically it would probably have worked far more efficiently all around.FrancisUrquhart said:Apple has not fully paid the 13 billion euros ($13.9 billion) it owes to Ireland in illegal tax benefits even though the deadline has passed, the European Union's competition said on Tuesday
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/apple-misses-deadline-to-pay-ireland-illegal-tax-benefits.html
Valuable lesson learned? Almost certainly not, but it's an intriguing point.0 -
Are you saying that inflation rose, despite Brexit?another_richard said:So from June to December UK inflation has increased from 0.5% to 1.6% and Eurozone inflation has increased from 0.2% to 1.8%.
I wonder if on Eurozone political websites there are people copying tweets saying 'Five percent increase in marmite price is the fault of Brexit'.
Ah, my coat!0 -
But they CAN be. Take the case of a child on a roundabout in a park that goes flying off, that is a case of centripetal/centrifugal forces not being equal.Scott_P said:
If the object is not in orbit then the forces are not necessarily Centripetal/CentrifugalPhilip_Thompson said:The forces only exactly balance if the object is traveling in an orbit. If the object escapes it's orbit then it is because the forces didn't exactly balance which is possible.
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Philip_Thompson said:
But they CAN be. Take the case of a child on a roundabout in a park that goes flying off, that is a case of centripetal/centrifugal forces not being equal.Scott_P said:
If the object is not in orbit then the forces are not necessarily Centripetal/CentrifugalPhilip_Thompson said:The forces only exactly balance if the object is traveling in an orbit. If the object escapes it's orbit then it is because the forces didn't exactly balance which is possible.
No. That's a breach of health and safety regulations.
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