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Sore-Loserman!The_Apocalypse said:
Some of you on this site are literally obsessed with the liberal left. I see so many posts about liberal-left reactions on this site it's unbelievable, especially since most PBers are right-wing.Richard_Nabavi said:The lamentations amongst the liberal-left, Hillary-supporting, rich, London-based Americans of my acquaintance are completely off the scale, and their fantasies about whether Trump might be impeached are pitiful to behold.
Anyway, I'm giving this Inauguration a miss.0 -
No they always turn up.rottenborough said:
Doesn't the loser always come to the inauguration? Or do they stay away?SimonStClare said:Hillary Clinton✔@HillaryClinton
I'm here today to honor our democracy & its enduring values. I will never stop believing in our country & its future. #Inauguration
3:53 PM - 20 Jan 2017
No dear, you're there because you're the wife an ex-president.
Actually she would have been invited on multiple fronts as
1) Defeated candidate
2) Spouse of a former President
3) Former Secretary of State0 -
@tnewtondunn: Confirmed: UKIP leader @paulnuttallukip tells me he has "put my hat in the ring" to stand in Stoke Central. He'll be at hustings tonight.0
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4) they need to know her whereabouts for the arrest in just over 50 mins time.TheScreamingEagles said:
No they always turn up.rottenborough said:
Doesn't the loser always come to the inauguration? Or do they stay away?SimonStClare said:Hillary Clinton✔@HillaryClinton
I'm here today to honor our democracy & its enduring values. I will never stop believing in our country & its future. #Inauguration
3:53 PM - 20 Jan 2017
No dear, you're there because you're the wife an ex-president.
Actually she would have been invited on multiple fronts as
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2) Spouse of a former President
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Fidei et fiderum omnium defensor. Because of course we need to signal to the world our absolute conviction that blowing up infidels while shouting wossname akbar is not in any way a distinctive characteristic of any particular faith whatever, no, siree.RobD said:
'Defender of the faith, and all faiths' would be a good compromise. Not sure what that is in Latin though!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. D, I just hope Charles doesn't bugger it up with his 'Defence of Faith' nonsense.
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A near perfect tipster.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Yes, I thought that was odd too.RobD said:
Not at midday?rottenborough said:
33 mins yet according to sky news!!TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Mr. Thompson, I'd be very wary of unravelling the tapestry of the British constitutional set-up. Recent efforts at change have been cack-handed, short-sighted and narrow-minded.0
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@John_M I've seen several posters on here support the Republican side of the argument in regard to American 'culture wars.' I don't think such people can be considered 'socially liberal'. I think there's a difference between having one or two socially liberally views, to actually being socially liberal. I'd also say there's more than a 'mild' hostility to Muslims on this site.0
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Fox News drawing the parallel with Gambia today0
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Wow Michelle certainly wears her heart on her sleeve.0
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My thought would be to have it separate, so Fidei defensor is distinct, but maybe that would be awkward in LatinIshmael_Z said:
Fidei et fiderum omnium defensor. Because of course we need to signal to the world our absolute conviction that blowing up infidels while shouting wossname akbar is not in any way a distinctive characteristic of any particular faith whatever, no, siree.RobD said:
'Defender of the faith, and all faiths' would be a good compromise. Not sure what that is in Latin though!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. D, I just hope Charles doesn't bugger it up with his 'Defence of Faith' nonsense.
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I think he might start out on those trashing a McDonalds first. Just to let folks know - you can't take on the symbols of corporate America in the age of the Donald without being dropped in the Potomac from a chopper....rottenborough said:
He wants it nice and short so he can get back to the White House and start playing with those codes as soon as possible.Tim_B said:
JFK was 13 minutes. Trump is apparently going to be about 20.FrancisUrquhart said:Trump's speech is going to be
yugeshort apparently (according to sky).0 -
Hillary looks reasonably relaxed about it all to me. Her husband on the other hand looks like he wants to punch someone.rottenborough said:
Doesn't the loser always come to the inauguration? Or do they stay away?SimonStClare said:Hillary Clinton✔@HillaryClinton
I'm here today to honor our democracy & its enduring values. I will never stop believing in our country & its future. #Inauguration
3:53 PM - 20 Jan 2017
No dear, you're there because you're the wife an ex-president.0 -
Never has winning £2 after staking £50 felt so good.Pulpstar said:
A near perfect tipster.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
...just hoping the Marine Band don't play John Philip Souza's Liberty Bell March0
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Damn. I took (and posted here) 4/6 but when I checked Paddy was shorter.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/ladpolitics/status/822478086990073857
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Hillary Clinton, looking like she has been carved out of the finest obsidian....0
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Beyond that I should imagine. The English language needs a new adjective for this one.SeanT said:Feel a bit sorry for Hillary for the first time in my entire life. This must be excruciating for her.
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Last malaria outbreak in the UK was in the north Kent marshes in 1918.JosiasJessop said:0 -
Even with your recent well earned mini fortune, I don't think you are rich enough to be in with a shot with them.SeanT said:
I dunno. Who is who? All i see is a lot of, quite frankly, very do-able young blonde women. Who apparently belong to the Trump Dynasty.Sandpit said:
Tiffany Trump's more the age you go for, isn't she?SeanT said:Can't be denied that the advent of Trump raises the Female Hotness quotient in DC. God bless Michelle, but she was no looker. A great speaker and arguably more inspiring than her husband. But not a looker.
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More of an Ivanka man, personally.SeanT said:
I dunno. Who is who? All i see is a lot of, quite frankly, very do-able young blonde women. Who apparently belong to the Trump Dynasty.Sandpit said:
Tiffany Trump's more the age you go for, isn't she?SeanT said:Can't be denied that the advent of Trump raises the Female Hotness quotient in DC. God bless Michelle, but she was no looker. A great speaker and arguably more inspiring than her husband. But not a looker.
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Yep. I really wanted someone to go into a shop with a suitcase of cash for that bet. Apparently it got cut to 1/50 after you tipped it here and we all got on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Never has winning £2 after staking £50 felt so good.Pulpstar said:
A near perfect tipster.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I actually don't feel that sorry for Hillary. After this she can go back to her nice life. It'll be ordinary Americans who will have to deal with the consequences of a Trump administration.rottenborough said:
Beyond that I should imagine. The English language needs a new adjective for this one.SeanT said:Feel a bit sorry for Hillary for the first time in my entire life. This must be excruciating for her.
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Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(0
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LOL. Tiffany's the youngest one of all the fit blondes in white. Left of the picture as they stand together. Born 1993, so aged 23.SeanT said:
I dunno. Who is who? All i see is a lot of, quite frankly, very do-able young blonde women. Who apparently belong to the Trump Dynasty.Sandpit said:
Tiffany Trump's more the age you go for, isn't she?SeanT said:Can't be denied that the advent of Trump raises the Female Hotness quotient in DC. God bless Michelle, but she was no looker. A great speaker and arguably more inspiring than her husband. But not a looker.
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Beeb website: "On a separate note, Hillary Clinton was chatting with George W Bush on the platform while waiting."John_M said:
Yep, I think she's welling up a bit. Watching on BBC Parliament to avoid commentariesSeanT said:Feel a bit sorry for Hillary for the first time in my entire life. This must be excruciating for her.
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Apparently, Obama advised him not to.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
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Ivanka!SeanT said:I mean, Melania. You WOULD
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A mistake... I think he would have won.John_M said:
Apparently, Obama advised him not to.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
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BBC coverage quite poor. They keep interrupting each other.0
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Trump's youngest son has the sickly, malevolent look of an evil little bastard from a Victorian melodrama.
Or from The Omen....0 -
Given Bill Clinton, I doubt that would have mattered even if hadn't been up against Trump. I would have thought he would have managed to position himself far better than Hilary as the candidate for managed change.SeanT said:
Many skeletons in the attic. Apparently. Quite a man for the ladies.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
Though Trump kinda shows you can now get away with this....0 -
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@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....0
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The rough beast slouches towards the podium.0
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You mean Joe was just biden' his time?SeanT said:
Many skeletons in the attic. Apparently. Quite a man for the ladies.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
Though Trump kinda shows you can now get away with this....0 -
Surely Obama's legacy will be that Donald Trump succeeded him0
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Pulls wings off flies, fer sure.MarqueeMark said:Trump's youngest son has the sickly, malevolent look of an evil little bastard from a Victorian melodrama.
Or from The Omen....0 -
Looks like a lonely walk.0
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I presume their coverage is like they are covering a funeral?Gallowgate said:BBC coverage quite poor. They keep interrupting each other.
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I watching Sky. Mainly cos I can't stand Katy Kay for some reason.Gallowgate said:BBC coverage quite poor. They keep interrupting each other.
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I was thinking about Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky. I don't know what you're talking about.SeanT said:
WTF? The allegations against Clinton are easily as bad as anything hurled at Trump. Indeed they are probably worse and more lurid, and with better evidence.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
EDIT: I don't know how much 'better' evidence you can get than a man admitting what he's done on tape btw.0 -
Pence looks like my Action Man doll after fifty years of hard living.0
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And Hillary's legacy will be as a footnote. That she lost to Donald Trump. That must be hard to live with.Big_G_NorthWales said:Surely Obama's legacy will be that Donald Trump succeeded him
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Most definitely. For a start he would have come out fighting against Trump - calling it all a loud of snake oil and mallarky and he wouldn't have listened to all the Big Data, voter profile, Ada machine stuff that Clinton focused on rather than actually getting a message together and getting out there.RobD said:
A mistake... I think he would have won.John_M said:
Apparently, Obama advised him not to.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
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Google what jfk made Mimi Alford do to whom, with whom as onlooker.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
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When the music started for Donald Trumps arrival at the podium, I thought the bands had started up with the Darth Vader march from Star Wars.
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John_M said:
The rough beast slouches towards the podium.
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Nah - Obama would not have dropped a nuke on the middle east because it would have been a catastrophically stupid thing to do. As you say, Trump just might.Tim_B said:
Obama would never do so, in case it caused global warming. Trump just might.SeanT said:Go the Donald!
First job, just drop a fucking nuke on ISIS in Palmyra. They've now destroyed the last bit of the city. So who cares. Vaporize them.
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IIRC, the BBC sent 120 reporters/hangers-on to Barry’s first inaugural, there’s probable no more than half a dozen at this one.FrancisUrquhart said:
I presume their coverage is like they are covering a funeral?Gallowgate said:BBC coverage quite poor. They keep interrupting each other.
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OT: Hammond is really growing on me, though his remarks are going to set UKIP a-froth:
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Rubbish! Biden would have got nowhere.rottenborough said:
Most definitely. For a start he would have come out fighting against Trump - calling it all a loud of snake oil and mallarky and he wouldn't have listened to all the Big Data, voter profile, Ada machine stuff that Clinton focused on rather than actually getting a message together and getting out there.RobD said:
A mistake... I think he would have won.John_M said:
Apparently, Obama advised him not to.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
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All it will take is an ISIS operative to tweet that Trump's hair doesn't look right and then boom!!!!!SouthamObserver said:
Nah - Obama would not have dropped a nuke on the middle east because it would have been a catastrophically stupid thing to do. As you say, Trump just might.Tim_B said:
Obama would never do so, in case it caused global warming. Trump just might.SeanT said:Go the Donald!
First job, just drop a fucking nuke on ISIS in Palmyra. They've now destroyed the last bit of the city. So who cares. Vaporize them.0 -
With regard to the Middle East there's no shortage of catastrophically stupid things that have been done in the last centurySouthamObserver said:
Nah - Obama would not have dropped a nuke on the middle east because it would have been a catastrophically stupid thing to do. As you say, Trump just might.Tim_B said:
Obama would never do so, in case it caused global warming. Trump just might.SeanT said:Go the Donald!
First job, just drop a fucking nuke on ISIS in Palmyra. They've now destroyed the last bit of the city. So who cares. Vaporize them.0 -
Mr. K, could be worse. Could be the Rains of Castermere[sp].0
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OT for those wanting diversions. Three interesting articles about the Stoke Byelecton from one of Tristram's constituency workers:
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/goodbye-to-tristram.html
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/a-political-guide-to-stoke-on-trent.html
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/previewing-stoke-on-trent-central-by.html0 -
Last minutes of Obama. Class act. The best president of my lifetime. Don't expect him to be bettered.0
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Biden is the sitting vice-president. He was elected with Obama -- based on big data and all the rest of it.rottenborough said:
Most definitely. For a start he would have come out fighting against Trump - calling it all a loud of snake oil and mallarky and he wouldn't have listened to all the Big Data, voter profile, Ada machine stuff that Clinton focused on rather than actually getting a message together and getting out there.RobD said:
A mistake... I think he would have won.John_M said:
Apparently, Obama advised him not to.rottenborough said:Oh Biden. Why or why or why did you not run :-(
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Lard of Mercy.
Quite fitting by the looks of him.0 -
Just googled it. It's disgusting, but she characterises it as a 'dare' as opposed to being forced. Still, after reading that I agree that JFK isn't that much better than Trump. But I was never a huge JFK fan if I'm being honest. I see him as a charlatan. This was link I read btw: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099498/Mimi-Alford-The-day-JFK-took-virginity-wifes-White-House-bed.htmlIshmael_Z said:
Google what jfk made Mimi Alford do to whom, with whom as onlooker.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
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Islamic StateJonathan said:Last minutes of Obama. Class act. The best president of my lifetime. Don't expect him to be bettered.
Black Lives Matter0 -
Trump was walking with a scowl and slow swagger reminiscent of a mafia boss from central casting.SeanT said:As the flip side to Hillary, what must Trump be feeling now? An incredible moment for a total outsider, the Leicester City of politicians. Whatever you think of him, chapeau.
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Took over the US at the height of the financial crisis and dragged it out of the abyss. History will be kind.SeanT said:
Preposterous.Jonathan said:Last minutes of Obama. Class act. The best president of my lifetime. Don't expect him to be bettered.
He was the best speaker. And a great campaigner. But that's where it ended. A mediocrity in office.0 -
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We are very fortunate to have Theresa May and Phil Hammond in these uncertain times.John_M said:OT: Hammond is really growing on me, though his remarks are going to set UKIP a-froth:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38688786
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Time to bury bad news.Scott_P said:0 -
I agree with @Jonathan. Obama's been the best POTUS in my lifetime (though that lifetime is only 23 years). I'll miss him when he's gone (and Michelle too).0
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Will there be a Muslim prayer?0
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He could at least have done up his jacket!DecrepitJohnL said:
Trump was walking with a scowl and slow swagger reminiscent of a mafia boss from central casting.SeanT said:As the flip side to Hillary, what must Trump be feeling now? An incredible moment for a total outsider, the Leicester City of politicians. Whatever you think of him, chapeau.
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What a remarkable achievement for a billionaire son of a millionaire to reach high office.SeanT said:As the flip side to Hillary, what must Trump be feeling now? An incredible moment for a total outsider, the Leicester City of politicians. Whatever you think of him, chapeau.
Obama's achievement is greater.
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Those bullet proof vests are heavy and uncomfortable.DecrepitJohnL said:
Trump was walking with a scowl and slow swagger reminiscent of a mafia boss from central casting.SeanT said:As the flip side to Hillary, what must Trump be feeling now? An incredible moment for a total outsider, the Leicester City of politicians. Whatever you think of him, chapeau.
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God is she reading off an iPad....America no class...and we were all up in arms when Bercow decided not to wear the silly outfit !!!0
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UmmmBig_G_NorthWales said:We are very fortunate to have Theresa May and Phil Hammond in these uncertain times.
They are both competent, serious, and have a vision for this Country that is needed to take the people through our divorce from the EU
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My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:0 -
Reagan is hands down the best president of my lifetime.0
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Kennedy was no saint either. On a par and in some respects worse than Clinton.SeanT said:
WTF? The allegations against Clinton are easily as bad as anything hurled at Trump. Indeed they are probably worse and more lurid, and with better evidence.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
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This is no surprise. His talking head has been a feature on FNC since brexitThe_Apocalypse said:
My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:0 -
It will be good for the car industry - have faith and lose your negativityScott_P said:
UmmmBig_G_NorthWales said:We are very fortunate to have Theresa May and Phil Hammond in these uncertain times.
They are both competent, serious, and have a vision for this Country that is needed to take the people through our divorce from the EU
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Only just switched on. Was there a Jewish contribution as well as all the bible bashing?0
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The title is a historical anachronism brought about by the sheer chutzpah of Henry VIII.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. D, and atheists/agnostics?
No. The monarch must be Defender of the Faith. He's going to be supreme governor of the Church of England, not a Grand Ayatollah, Chief Rabbi or Lord High Monk.
If memory serves, Henry VIII, a good Catholic king in his younger days, was awarded the title by the Pope in recognition of a book or tract Henry wrote refuting the Martin Luther's articles and reforming zeal. When for reasons of dynasty (or lust) Henry broke with Rome and told the Pope to get stuffed he simply kept using the title the title, as have successive monarchs ever since, including two Catholic ones
The Monarch being supreme governor of the Church of England is a statement of constitutional fact. Being Defender of the Faith is rather dubious.0 -
So with Farage's roles on LBC and Fox News he is now part of the liberal fake news media elite ;-)0
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Yep. Being the first African-American man to hold office is a much greater achievement than a orange-tanned white man being born into wealth going on to be President. Barack and Michelle Obama have inspired many in the eight years with their stories. I'm not actually sure who Trump 'inspires'.Jonathan said:
What a remarkable achievement for a billionaire son of a millionaire to reach high office.SeanT said:As the flip side to Hillary, what must Trump be feeling now? An incredible moment for a total outsider, the Leicester City of politicians. Whatever you think of him, chapeau.
Obama's achievement is greater.0 -
I'll show my age and say LBJ!The_Apocalypse said:I agree with @Jonathan. Obama's been the best POTUS in my lifetime (though that lifetime is only 23 years). I'll miss him when he's gone (and Michelle too).
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Mute the TV and listen to this.SeanT said:Why is this music so shit? Thank God for the Anglican choral tradition.
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Kennedy put a man on the Moon. I wonder what Trump can achieve. His tech squillionaire meeting was a very positive step I thought.glw said:
Kennedy was no saint either. On a par and in some respects worse than Clinton.SeanT said:
WTF? The allegations against Clinton are easily as bad as anything hurled at Trump. Indeed they are probably worse and more lurid, and with better evidence.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
Economically he might just be brilliant... Socially I expect him to be a fairly standard republican.0 -
@GerriPeev: This choir looks about as cheery as an Iraqi football team ordered to score goals under Saddam #inauguration0
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Bless 'em. They do their best and have to churn this out every four years. Not a patch on the Coronation.SeanT said:
There are much worse stories about JFK than that, and well verified stories too. Jesus you're sheltered!The_Apocalypse said:
Just googled it. It's disgusting, but she characterises it as a 'dare' as opposed to being forced. Still, after reading that I agree that JFK isn't that much better than Trump. But I was never a huge JFK fan if I'm being honest. I see him as a charlatan. This was link I read btw: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099498/Mimi-Alford-The-day-JFK-took-virginity-wifes-White-House-bed.htmlIshmael_Z said:
Google what jfk made Mimi Alford do to whom, with whom as onlooker.The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT Well, Bill Clinton (along with JFK) showed that you can get away with infidelity. What Trump did/said was a lot more darker than mere infidelity....
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Its been pretty obvious that Farage has been angling for some well paid sinecures in the States. If Fox News is the most trusted television source in the USA I have sympathy for Americans. Murdoch's fingerprints all over it.The_Apocalypse said:
My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:
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@SeanT you're not the first person to tell me that. Ah well, I have my whole life ahead of me to become 'unsheltered'.
If they wanted to get a Brexiteer on FNC they should have gotten Dan Hannan.Tim_B said:
This is no surprise. His talking head has been a feature on FNC since brexitThe_Apocalypse said:
My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:0 -
Which bit of "the car industry needs the custom union" is confusing you?Big_G_NorthWales said:It will be good for the car industry - have faith and lose your negativity
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Coming to Sky soon ?perdix said:
Its been pretty obvious that Farage has been angling for some well paid sinecures in the States. If Fox News is the most trusted television source in the USA I have sympathy for Americans. Murdoch's fingerprints all over it.The_Apocalypse said:
My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:0 -
Mr. Llama, if Charles want to drop the term, it'd be fine. If he wants to change it to Defender of Faith then he's going beyond his role (head of the Anglican church) whilst excluding atheists and agnostics. Is he going to defend scientologists? Pastafarians? Jedi?
Anyway, we'll find out. Unless he dies before HM, of course, but that seems unlikely.0 -
Dan Hannan ?The_Apocalypse said:@SeanT you're not the first person to tell me that. Ah well, I have my whole life ahead of me to become 'unsheltered'.
If they wanted to get a Brexiteer on FNC they should have gotten Dan Hannan.Tim_B said:
This is no surprise. His talking head has been a feature on FNC since brexitThe_Apocalypse said:
My heart goes out to the Americans.Scott_P said:
He is a charismatic speaker, but his stock is in the toilet right now. Farage never promised or wanted the single market.0
