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Q2. If she became this I'll before invoking the 25th Amendment would it have been reasonable for the VP and Cabinet to do it ?0
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It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
Links please!PlatoSaid said:
It's clearly a way to excuse her going AWOL for another few days.Speedy said:
Wait, Hillary has changed her story ?PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
I though her campaign said it was overheating.
They are doing their best to reduce their credibility to zero.0 -
In isolation it is possibly a credible explanation but when you look at the hundreds of other incidents it doesn't look so credible.Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
I'm guessing this is in jest, but be aware this would probably be considered against the terms of your ESTA!rcs1000 said:I'm on the West Coast this week. I was planning to be in SF on Wednesday evening, but may now go the Hillary rally in Nevada. I wonder if I can go as a Politicalbetting affiliated reporter
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Impressive recovery. When my 66 year old mother was diagnosed with pneumonia she was in intensive care for 3 weeks and on oxygen for 2 of those.williamglenn said:
Her cough does tie in with a pneumonia diagnosis however.0 -
And why did she tell the media she felt great if she's battling pneumonia?PlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
Given the relatively recent precidents for 25th amendment transfers during surgery these two questions will be asked.0
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1. Hillary had coughs because of allergies.williamglenn said:
2. Nope she was having coughs because of Pneumonia.
3. She collapsed of overheating.
It's amazing how the story line changes.
On Friday night when she was diagnosed with Pneumonia she did her Basket of Deplorables speech.
Can Hillary's campaign decide which disease or condition she is suffering from ?0 -
Seems an excuse - also why was she the only one wearing sun glassesPlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
Yes, I remember that one. Also one about the height of the podium, whether a short candidate should be allowed a box to stand on etc. A lot of these debates get very petty, as each side know it's the biggest audience of the whole campaign.kle4 said:
I seem to recall some gubernatorial debate where there was a row about one of the candidates using a fan, and the other one refusing to come out as it was against the rules.Sandpit said:
There's a snowball's chance in Hell that Trump is going to make any accommodations for Hillary in the debates.Essexit said:What are the Clinton team going to do about the debates? Dose her up with adrenaline beforehand? Insist on a sit-down format? Find an excuse to cancel altogether? If she takes a tumble like that on live TV with undecided voters watching keenly, surely she's toast.
Given the chance, he'll have them turn up the heating in the hall and have techno music blasting out during the commercial breaks.0 -
He does have a favourable paragraph on Prescott but his basic premise is most of us are not exceptionally talented and will never reach the top, hence why he also likes the monarchy as it is not based on merit and is therefore more humbleMTimT said:
In education, Moore's approach is a red herring. It is not that 'everyone has their merits' but that everyone should have an education that helps them realize their full potential.AndyJS said:"In Theresa May's meritocracy, what will become of the stupid and useless?
Charles Moore"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/in-theresa-mays-meritocracy-what-will-become-of-the-stupid-and-u/
I am not sure even what his question might mean in other contexts. Does he suggest that we have to accept incompetents in office so as not to be unfair to them? Meritocracy need not mean unfairness, as he seems to suggest.0 -
Indeed but Speedy is right that such a scenario would lead to very bitter Trump votersDavidL said:
She could probably lose by 1% and still win the electoral college, especially if Trump does better in traditionally Democratic States but not well enough to win. Given his focus on the rust bucket states and the White blue collared vote this strikes me as quite plausible.HYUFD said:
I am sticking to a Hillary win by less than 1%Speedy said:Well to top off a terrible week for Hillary my average daily and weekly tracking polls has her lead down bellow 2% for the first time since the day after the DNC.
Trump is at his highest since July 29th and Hillary has dipped to an all time low.
The signs are not good for Hillary for my weekly update tomorrow.0 -
Well it could be worse, we could get Detroit!ThreeQuidder said:
Yes, but on the down side, we'll also have New York...HYUFD said:
New York and we have the two best cities in the world!Speedy said:
What about New England in exchange ? (jokingly)HYUFD said:
Unlikely though a favourable trade deal post Brexit is a mustSpeedy said:
In that case the Foreign Office should draw contingency plans for civil war in America.HYUFD said:
We are headed that way and of course Johnson or Stein could play as big a role as Nader in 2000 in a very close race.Speedy said:
If Hillary wins by less than 1% I think the election might come down to recounts, and civil war.HYUFD said:
I am sticking to a Hillary win by less than 1%Speedy said:Well to top off a terrible week for Hillary my average daily and weekly tracking polls has her lead down bellow 2% for the first time since the day after the DNC.
Trump is at his highest since July 29th and Hillary has dipped to an all time low.
The signs are not good for Hillary for my weekly update tomorrow.
A disputed close victory for one of the most unpopular persons to ever run for president will definitely risk a civil war.
First and foremost which side would Britain take if it should take a side, and what would it gain in exchange.
Or Hawaii ? (Their state flag is British enough already)0 -
Does seem like one of those times where they've decided to change story, and knowing that's always awkward, just to go quick and hard with the change and attempt to move on. Presumably so many dislike Trump plenty will be happy to move on even with a lame explanation (it's not like lukewarm Trump supporters haven't shown the same tendency)williamglenn said:
And why did she tell the media she felt great if she's battling pneumonia?PlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
Oh my
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Police investigate allegations Keith Vaz had links to a suspected brothel https://t.co/7FpkCPuRpY https://t.co/PjvDJFsRnN0 -
It doesn't seem credible. Also, during her Basket of Deplorables speech as well as the CiC forum she appeared to be in good health, fully alert and compos mentis.Speedy said:On Friday night when she was diagnosed with Pneumonia she did her Basket of Deplorables speech.
How many people in her circle know the full truth?0 -
Campaigning for months and shake hands with 10,000s of people is a good way of catching something bacterial, that's for sure!JonathanD said:
Impressive recovery. When my 66 year old mother was diagnosed with pneumonia she was in intensive care for 3 weeks and on oxygen for 2 of those.williamglenn said:
Her cough does tie in with a pneumonia diagnosis however.0 -
The Betfair market for 'Next President' will be settled on the result of the election in November, not the inauguration in January.Speedy said:viewcode said:Biden is now up to 7cents on PredictIt. If you believe that Hillary will run regardless of health, then selling Biden at 7c is value.
https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election
Those are not rational bettors who are panicking, those are young voters who spend their time on the internet and have never seen such a thing before (the bedrock of Hillary's support by the way).Dromedary said:Latest Betfair mid-prices (they are changing fast):
Biden 34
Sanders 36
Kaine 155
That's an implied probability of 6% that a Democrat who isn't Clinton wins the election.
There's also now a two-sided market on Michael Bloomberg.
They are panicking and are betting on the next name on their minds.
A rational bettor would never put a penny on either Biden or Sanders, but on Kaine who is actually on the ballot.
That Bloomberg has made an appearance is interesting, but it's too late for an independent to run, just look at the sad state of Y0kel's favourate CIA agent who is running.
Given that nominations have closed and ballot papers printed in most states, and early voting starts as early as next week, how can someone not on the ballot paper actually win the election? Even if Clinton pulls out in favour of Kaine, that will be something done by the delegates at the Electoral College, not by the election itself, which will still be for Hillary Clinton.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/#/politics/event/27713489/market?marketId=1.1073734190 -
Biden has been quoted as saying he regrets not running, but he made the decision in the immediate aftermath of Beau's death, and for valid family reasons. I have a massive amount of time for Biden, as a very decent man - he is far preferable for many Dems to what is on offer now.MTimT said:
Biden did not get into the race because his son was dying. Once his son died, it was already somewhat late for him to join in, and he was in any case undecided whether he personally was ready for the brutality of a campaign, given the crushing loss of his son. By the time it was evident that Hillary was in trouble, it really was too late.Sandpit said:
I'd love to know what happened to make Joe Biden decide not to run.williamglenn said:Assuming Trump wins, the acrimony within the Democratic party is going to be severe when they realise what they've done by stitching up the race for a candidate who wasn't fit to run. I suspect the whole Clinton political machine will be purged from the party.
The Clintons got the whole party, except Sen. Sanders, to stand aside for her - if they've been hiding something from the whole party then it will be mayhem.*
*I meant mayhem within the party, but if Trump wins and the GOP hold the Senate, appoint SC judges etc, it will be like the sensible Labour people here who hate what the Tories are doing but are powerless to actually do anything about it.
I am not a huge Biden fan, but I have huge respect for the relationship he had with his kids in the aftermath of his wife's death, and so respect that he had to grieve properly for Beau.0 -
It is unthinkable that a diagnoses of pneumonia in a women of Hilary’s age would not have required either a long spell in bed or hospitalisation. I find this latest pretext for HRC’s collapse does not stand up IMHO.Big_G_NorthWales said:Hilary Clinton's doctor announces she was diagnosed with pneumonia last friday. So why after today's episode did she come out and say she was fine rather than admit to her diagnosis
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It's perfectly plausible that a candidate two months out from a presidential election would work through pneumonia rather than take an election losing two to three weeks off. It's also perfectly plausible that this would be such a silly thing to do medically that she ended up collapsing. Of course being plausible doesn't make it true. Pneumonia is also consistent with the video. She was too stiff to be unconcious but clearly couldn't stand unaided.0
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I was up and outside later than that today, and I live in one of the world's hottest and most humid cities with no problem. Grasping at straws from Hillary's team there.PlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
There are quite a few different causes of pneumonia - not just bacterial - and if my mother's case is anything to go by its difficult to diagnose the cause. They'll pump you full of antibiotics to see if that helps but they won't know in advance if it will.rottenborough said:
Campaigning for months and shake hands with 10,000s of people is a good way of catching something bacterial, that's for sure!JonathanD said:
Impressive recovery. When my 66 year old mother was diagnosed with pneumonia she was in intensive care for 3 weeks and on oxygen for 2 of those.williamglenn said:
Her cough does tie in with a pneumonia diagnosis however.0 -
Indeed it doesn't seem plausible.williamglenn said:
It doesn't seem credible. Also, during her Basket of Deplorables speech as well as the CiC forum she appeared to be in good health, fully alert and compos mentis.Speedy said:On Friday night when she was diagnosed with Pneumonia she did her Basket of Deplorables speech.
How many people in her circle know the full truth?
The timeline is not right and that the doctor switched diagnosis from allergies to pneumonia to overheating mid stream in her own press release.
If Hillary was suffering from all that she would have looked and sounded like a wreck in front of the NBC Forum and that Basket of Deplorables fundraiser0 -
Betfair should open a market in "Neither Clinton Nor Trump".0
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That's my reading of it too.rottenborough said:
BF punters need to be careful. I may not understand this correctly but this is the ruling:Speedy said:viewcode said:Biden is now up to 7cents on PredictIt. If you believe that Hillary will run regardless of health, then selling Biden at 7c is value.
https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election
Those are not rational bettors who are panicking, those are young voters who spend their time on the internet and have never seen such a thing before (the bedrock of Hillary's support by the way).Dromedary said:Latest Betfair mid-prices (they are changing fast):
Biden 34
Sanders 36
Kaine 155
That's an implied probability of 6% that a Democrat who isn't Clinton wins the election.
There's also now a two-sided market on Michael Bloomberg.
They are panicking and are betting on the next name on their minds.
A rational bettor would never put a penny on either Biden or Sanders, but on Kaine who is actually on the ballot.
That Bloomberg has made an appearance is interesting, but it's too late for an independent to run, just look at the sad state of Y0kel's favourate CIA agent who is running.
"This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2016 presidential election. Any subsequent events such as a ‘faithless elector’ will have no effect on the settlement of this market. In the event that no Presidential candidate receives a majority of the projected Electoral College votes, this market will be settled on the person chosen as President in accordance with the procedures set out by the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution."
Not sure what this exactly means, but HRC withdraws due to health and then Kaine is winner, but the person on ballot with most college votes will be HRC.
The only plausible exception would be if she passed away without withdrawing before the election, in which case I think they'd probably void the market.0 -
Did you see the article in today's Sunday Times by Andrew Gilligan about his experiences with Vaz in 1987?PlatoSaid said:Oh my
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Police investigate allegations Keith Vaz had links to a suspected brothel https://t.co/7FpkCPuRpY https://t.co/PjvDJFsRnN0 -
The stupid and the useless - surely no one is contemplating shutting down the Scottish Labour Party any time soon?HYUFD said:
He does have a favourable paragraph on Prescott but his basic premise is most of us are not exceptionally talented and will never reach the top, hence why he also likes the monarchy as it is not based on merit and is therefore more humbleMTimT said:
In education, Moore's approach is a red herring. It is not that 'everyone has their merits' but that everyone should have an education that helps them realize their full potential.AndyJS said:"In Theresa May's meritocracy, what will become of the stupid and useless?
Charles Moore"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/in-theresa-mays-meritocracy-what-will-become-of-the-stupid-and-u/
I am not sure even what his question might mean in other contexts. Does he suggest that we have to accept incompetents in office so as not to be unfair to them? Meritocracy need not mean unfairness, as he seems to suggest.0 -
"As Mr Vaz’s wife stood by him, officers were probing claims he intervened in the eviction of a tenant suspected of providing “the services of young men for other men”, according to a witness who has given a police statement."PlatoSaid said:Oh my
Mirror
Police investigate allegations Keith Vaz had links to a suspected brothel https://t.co/7FpkCPuRpY https://t.co/PjvDJFsRnN
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/allegations-keith-vaz-intervened-eviction-8815049
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I get dehydrated any temperature over 70 degrees, pathetic I know but heat and humidity of any degree affect me. I'd love to live in Iceland, much more my sort of climate. I could never go to South East Asia for example, it's my idea of hell.Sandpit said:
I was up and outside later than that today, and I live in one of the world's hottest and most humid cities with no problem. Grasping at straws from Hillary's team there.PlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible
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This has never happened before and we don't know the legal mechanics.Sandpit said:
The Betfair market for 'Next President' will be settled on the result of the election in November, not the inauguration in January.Speedy said:viewcode said:Biden is now up to 7cents on PredictIt. If you believe that Hillary will run regardless of health, then selling Biden at 7c is value.
https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election
Those are not rational bettors who are panicking, those are young voters who spend their time on the internet and have never seen such a thing before (the bedrock of Hillary's support by the way).Dromedary said:Latest Betfair mid-prices (they are changing fast):
Biden 34
Sanders 36
Kaine 155
That's an implied probability of 6% that a Democrat who isn't Clinton wins the election.
There's also now a two-sided market on Michael Bloomberg.
They are panicking and are betting on the next name on their minds.
A rational bettor would never put a penny on either Biden or Sanders, but on Kaine who is actually on the ballot.
That Bloomberg has made an appearance is interesting, but it's too late for an independent to run, just look at the sad state of Y0kel's favourate CIA agent who is running.
Given that nominations have closed and ballot papers printed in most states, and early voting starts as early as next week, how can someone not on the ballot paper actually win the election? Even if Clinton pulls out in favour of Kaine, that will be something done by the delegates at the Electoral College, not by the election itself, which will still be for Hillary Clinton.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/#/politics/event/27713489/market?marketId=1.1073734190 -
Maybe it is true. Seems more likely than the other theories.YellowSubmarine said:It's perfectly plausible that a candidate two months out from a presidential election would work through pneumonia rather than take an election losing two to three weeks off. It's also perfectly plausible that this would be such a silly thing to do medically that she ended up collapsing. Of course being plausible doesn't make it true. Pneumonia is also consistent with the video. She was too stiff to be unconcious but clearly couldn't stand unaided.
The bigger issue is that whatever it was it has put Trump's wild claims about her health centrestage for at least the next 48 hours.0 -
I've posted this before but it's worth posting again, and worth watching if you haven't seen it.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Biden has been quoted as saying he regrets not running, but he made the decision in the immediate aftermath of Beau's death, and for valid family reasons. I have a massive amount of time for Biden, as a very decent man - he is far preferable for many Dems to what is on offer now.
Biden making a speech at a Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors event. TAPS is an organisation that supports the families of US armed forces members who have died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410
I wish I could vote for Biden here.
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Large quantities of Martinis answer both those questions.williamglenn said:
And why did she tell the media she felt great if she's battling pneumonia?PlatoSaid said:
It was 0930 - how was she dehydrated by then?!Big_G_NorthWales said:tlg86 said:
She's lucky not to be dead!PlatoSaid said:Now claiming she's got pneumonia diagnosed on Friday
Laughable straw grasping
Her doctor has said that after a period of coughing pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday. She was given antibiotics and told to rest. Today she became dehydrated and that has now been resolved.
I am no doctor but is that explanation really credible0 -
Ouch
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Emily Thornberry might not know any Foreign Secretaries, but she knows all the partners at Leigh Day @guidofawkes https://t.co/2WSFgP0Fy30 -
They write for the Spectator or the Guardian.AndyJS said:"In Theresa May's meritocracy, what will become of the stupid and useless?
Charles Moore"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/in-theresa-mays-meritocracy-what-will-become-of-the-stupid-and-u/0 -
Let's be clear, there is a clear process in what happens if Trump withdraws, the RNC meets to replace him.
Has anyone checked the rules of the DNC and of each individual state for Hillary ?0 -
They already do that, by allowing to to lay as well as back any particular candidate.Dromedary said:Betfair should open a market in "Neither Clinton Nor Trump".
With prices of others coming in fast, there's something like 5% profit to be made by laying them both.
https://betdata.io/next-us-president - note that these percentages are based on the back prices, the lay prices will be a fraction longer.0 -
Pneumonia is offered as the explanation, but the temptation to cover up Clinton's true health is there, given the desire to defeat Trump. Plenty of people will speculate what caused the collapse, and some doctors (punters & governments) will be wondering if the brief footage indicates something very different.
US presidents have a long history of being very economical with the truth on health matters. But openness isn't common elsewhere.0 -
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Probably not. NHS website:old_labour said:
"...most cases of pneumonia are bacterial and aren't passed on from one person to another"0 -
Thanks for that, I had forgotten about his recent bereavement, as thinking about what Clinton or her agents might have said or done to make him pull out, whereas actually the more I read on Biden, the more I believe that it was a genuine family-based decision.MTimT said:
Biden did not get into the race because his son was dying. Once his son died, it was already somewhat late for him to join in, and he was in any case undecided whether he personally was ready for the brutality of a campaign, given the crushing loss of his son. By the time it was evident that Hillary was in trouble, it really was too late.Sandpit said:
I'd love to know what happened to make Joe Biden decide not to run.williamglenn said:Assuming Trump wins, the acrimony within the Democratic party is going to be severe when they realise what they've done by stitching up the race for a candidate who wasn't fit to run. I suspect the whole Clinton political machine will be purged from the party.
The Clintons got the whole party, except Sen. Sanders, to stand aside for her - if they've been hiding something from the whole party then it will be mayhem.*
*I meant mayhem within the party, but if Trump wins and the GOP hold the Senate, appoint SC judges etc, it will be like the sensible Labour people here who hate what the Tories are doing but are powerless to actually do anything about it.
I am not a huge Biden fan, but I have huge respect for the relationship he had with his kids in the aftermath of his wife's death, and so respect that he had to grieve properly for Beau.0 -
"Minister warns boundary review is essential to prevent 'rotten boroughs'"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/minister-warns-boundary-review-is-essential-to-prevent-rotten-bo/
Now then, lets not be too hasty.0 -
"The Democratic National Committee shall have general responsibility for the affairs of the Democratic Party between National Conventions, subject to the provisions of this Charter and to the resolutions or other actions of the National Convention. This responsibility shall include...filling vacancies in the nominations for the office of President and Vice President." Article 3 DNC charterSpeedy said:Let's be clear, there is a clear process in what happens if Trump withdraws, the RNC meets to replace him.
Has anyone checked the rules of the DNC and of each individual state for Hillary ?0 -
I have seen it, but thanks for posting it - very powerful. When I hear Biden speak, I get more of a sense of humanity and decency than I've seen in any politician for a long time.glw said:
I've posted this before but it's worth posting again, and worth watching if you haven't seen it.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Biden has been quoted as saying he regrets not running, but he made the decision in the immediate aftermath of Beau's death, and for valid family reasons. I have a massive amount of time for Biden, as a very decent man - he is far preferable for many Dems to what is on offer now.
Biden making a speech at a Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors event. TAPS is an organisation that supports the families of US armed forces members who have died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410
I wish I could vote for Biden here.0 -
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Moore makes a good point. It is legitimate for us to demand that everybody be law-abiding, hard-working and not make noise after 11pm, but it is demanding too much for everybody to be clever and useful as well.AndyJS said:"In Theresa May's meritocracy, what will become of the stupid and useless?
Charles Moore"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/in-theresa-mays-meritocracy-what-will-become-of-the-stupid-and-u/0 -
Mediaphobia?Speedy said:
1. Hillary had coughs because of allergies.williamglenn said:
2. Nope she was having coughs because of Pneumonia.
3. She collapsed of overheating.
It's amazing how the story line changes.
On Friday night when she was diagnosed with Pneumonia she did her Basket of Deplorables speech.
Can Hillary's campaign decide which disease or condition she is suffering from ?0
