In reality many ordinary members of the public - who rarely tune into politics at all - have not the slightest idea as to what is meant by 'rightwing' or 'leftwing'.
I'm not convinced many of the politically aware do either. People could say the same about things like 'socialist', 'liberal' or 'conservative'.
Basically they have picked up that Corbyn is seen as extreme and beyond the pale by GuardioBBCisttas and automatically assume that he must therefore be rigbt wing?
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
I think it was CNBC who paid Chelsea Clinton $600,000 a year, for three years, to be an anchor. In which time she filed about a dozen reports, all of which were mind boggling awful interviews with global do-gooders.
I think that may deserve to be a campaign issue.
"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
Thanks to Labour though you can call something quite innocuous racist and thanks to the ludicrous McPherson defintion that anything that is perceived as racist is racist, you can on this issue turn a dog into a zebra.
I'd be careful with Zebra - they have the black lives matter and the white lives matter gangs at their back. Oddly though you can cross them quite safely.
I was going to say titter, but this time I think 'tit' will do.
I agree. It's a good thing that Smith will never be Labour leader.
It is quite amusing that the Labour right have incited a leadership contest and immolated themselves out of rage at Corbyn being off message during the referendum.
Blair would Im sure have been a lib dem if they stood a chance of a majority.
It is ironic that it was the huge labour majority that stopped his plan to merge with the lib dems creating a single centre left party.
Blair never wanted a centre-left government. He might have preferred dealing with the Lib Dems to the awkward squad ie Corbyn et al but after 2001 he was more comfortable having Rupert Murdoch in No.10 than Charles Kennedy.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
It says one thing at least - even the most despotic regimes usually at least pretend to have some kind of democratic legitimacy, which indicates they at least acknowledge democracy is meant to be a positive thing, which given it has not always been so for most of history is something.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
They way he banned trade unions then replaced them with a pro industry puppet organisation?
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
I think it was CNBC who paid Chelsea Clinton $600,000 a year, for three years, to be an anchor. In which time she filed about a dozen reports, all of which were mind boggling awful interviews with global do-gooders.
I think that may deserve to be a campaign issue.
"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
Why would they pay so much for basically an intern, if they didn't owe a favour to mum and dad?
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Trump needs to be up against Hillary to have even an outside chance, doesn't he?
Yep. If either candidate withdraws their party will win a landslide.
There have to be a few men in grey suits somewhere in the Democratic Party who know it's time for her to stand aside.
Certainly some bettors agree with you. Latest Betfair mid-prices:
Clinton 1.575 Trump 3.425 Sanders 28 Biden 77.5
That's a 5% implied probability of a Democratic winner who isn't the current Democratic candidate. And we're well into September. Wow!
If Trump withdraws, the Republican replacement - assuming they are chosen in time to be able to win 270 electoral seats - is likely to win by a landslide, yes. (Which would be a highly profitable outcome for me personally, except if they are someone completely unexpected.)
If Clinton withdraws, I would dearly love to watch Bernie Sanders win a landslide. I would cry tears of joy to witness the US population embrace socialism, and at long last to hear it tell the US elite where it can shove its dog-eat-dog ideology. But unfortunately that wouldn't be a foregone conclusion. Trump is extremely well known. He is like a cartoon character. I would say he is similar to a big figure in professional wrestling, but he actually is a big figure in professional wrestling. Sadly he would be in with a good chance of defeating Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Tim Kaine.
(Side note: please can we have some good conspiracy theories about the Jesuit Tim Kaine. I mean the SJs have already taken the papal throne, right?)
There is also the possibility that both candidates withdraw. In which case...who knows? Tradition would suggest a Republican victory, but maybe having been thrown out of the window tradition would have little chance of re-entering through the door?
Things are likely to heat up as the date of the first debate approaches.
The comments under The Fix article are most amusing
" It's pretty obvious that Hillary passed away some time ago and has been replaced by a intermittently malfunctioning cyborg. Although, seriously, how could you tell the difference? Somehow Putin is involved in this."
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
Thanks to Labour though you can call something quite innocuous racist and thanks to the ludicrous McPherson defintion that anything that is perceived as racist is racist, you can on this issue turn a dog into a zebra.
I'd be careful with Zebra - they have the black lives matter and the white lives matter gangs at their back. Oddly though you can cross them quite safely.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Was he as anti biolshevik as the mensheviks?
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
What are the odds on Tim Kaine being the next POTUS - which he will be if Clinton wins in November then snuffs it before she takes office in Jan 2017?
Reading Betfair's rules on the market, it appears to say that if someone wins 270 projected votes they'll settle the day after the election, only if no-one wins 270 presumed EC votes will they settle in favour of the nominated president according to the twelfth amendment.
No mention of who actually becomes president in January, but they will void the market if the election doesn't take place in 2016.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
It was corporatism that drove the union restrictions (and the ownership point). Corporatism is not particularly right wing.
Increased spending on armed forces is characteristic of all dictatorships, not just right wing ones
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Not sure Communism as practiced in Russia is particularly left wing either - both Fascism and Communism can't really be measured on the classic scale as you suggest. (Communism as practiced by the early church is probably more definitionally left wing)
Don't know enough about Francoism - tried to read Antony Beaver book but got bogged down although it was interesting. Too busy at work.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
It was corporatism that drove the union restrictions (and the ownership point). Corporatism is not particularly right wing.
Increased spending on armed forces is characteristic of all dictatorships, not just right wing ones
Which leaves the privatisation :-)
As I say, though, nazism/fascism is not on the normal political spectrum.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Was he as anti biolshevik as the mensheviks?
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
Who exactly? People like medics, police officers, aristocratic landowners, businessmen?
And the Nazis were far more anti-Bolshevik than the Mensheviks were either before or after 1917, although to compare Nazis-versus-Bolsheviks with Mensheviks-versus-Bolsheviks is to overload the term "Bolsheviks".
The comments under The Fix article are most amusing
" It's pretty obvious that Hillary passed away some time ago and has been replaced by a intermittently malfunctioning cyborg. Although, seriously, how could you tell the difference? Somehow Putin is involved in this."
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Not sure Communism as practiced in Russia is particularly left wing either - both Fascism and Communism can't really be measured on the classic scale as you suggest. (Communism as practiced by the early church is probably more definitionally left wing)
Don't know enough about Francoism - tried to read Antony Beaver book but got bogged down although it was interesting. Too busy at work.
Trump needs to be up against Hillary to have even an outside chance, doesn't he?
Yep. If either candidate withdraws their party will win a landslide.
There have to be a few men in grey suits somewhere in the Democratic Party who know it's time for her to stand aside.
Certainly some bettors agree with you. Latest Betfair mid-prices:
Clinton 1.575 Trump 3.425 Sanders 28 Biden 77.5
That's a 5% implied probability of a Democratic winner who isn't the current Democratic candidate. And we're well into September. Wow!
If Trump withdraws, the Republican replacement - assuming they are chosen in time to be able to win 270 electoral seats - is likely to win by a landslide, yes. (Which would be a highly profitable outcome for me personally, except if they are someone completely unexpected.)
If Clinton withdraws, I would dearly love to watch Bernie Sanders win a landslide. I would cry tears of joy to witness the US population embrace socialism, and at long last to hear it tell the US elite where it can shove its dog-eat-dog ideology. But unfortunately that wouldn't be a foregone conclusion. Trump is extremely well known. He is like a cartoon character. I would say he is similar to a big figure in professional wrestling, but he actually is a big figure in professional wrestling. Sadly he would be in with a good chance of defeating Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Tim Kaine.
(Side note: please can we have some good conspiracy theories about the Jesuit Tim Kaine. I mean the SJs have already taken the papal throne, right?)
There is also the possibility that both candidates withdraw. In which case...who knows? Tradition would suggest a Republican victory, but maybe having been thrown out of the window tradition would have little chance of re-entering through the door?
Things are likely to heat up as the date of the first debate approaches.
The great tragedy for the Dems is that Biden wouldn't stand, or was persuaded not to, in order to hand it to Hillary.
Hillary doesn't look likely to withdraw voluntarily. It seems that following Bill into the White House and securing a place in history as the first female POTUS is a personal obsession for her.
One has to feel sorry for her - in 2008 she looked set to get the nomination until young Mr. Obama turned up and sent her to the back of queue. She'd probably have beaten McCain and there's no reason she wouldn't have gone for a second term.
Now she's got the nomination and she might not even see the end of her first term, if Trump doesn't beat her anyway that is.
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Curiously, Franco's economic policies in the late Forties had much in common with those of Attlee's government, with widespread nationalisation, and prices and incomes policies. His support for a dominant position for the Catholic Church, the landowners, and army does put him in on the Right, though. He was always a pragmatist (accepting by the mid fifties that decolonisation was inevitable, for example),
In many ways, totalitarian states have more in common with each other than with parties of right or left in democracies that are theoretically on the same side.
Can I quote the great Hugh Gaitskell on Britain joining the EEC: it would mean "the end of Britain as an independent European state, the end of a thousand years of history! You may say, all right! Let it end! But, my goodness, it's a decision that needs a little care and thought."
Plenty of people, on both left and right, made the sovereignty arguments plain in 1975. It's just that the UK economy was regarded as so sick, and the continental economies so strong, that those arguments were relegated to the sidelines.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Not sure Communism as practiced in Russia is particularly left wing either - both Fascism and Communism can't really be measured on the classic scale as you suggest. (Communism as practiced by the early church is probably more definitionally left wing)
Don't know enough about Francoism - tried to read Antony Beaver book but got bogged down although it was interesting. Too busy at work.
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
I think it was CNBC who paid Chelsea Clinton $600,000 a year, for three years, to be an anchor. In which time she filed about a dozen reports, all of which were mind boggling awful interviews with global do-gooders.
I think that may deserve to be a campaign issue.
"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
The Trump campaign can't really play this card, as Donald Jr and Ivanka got similar (although probably less lucrative) jobs in the media off their dad.
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
I think it was CNBC who paid Chelsea Clinton $600,000 a year, for three years, to be an anchor. In which time she filed about a dozen reports, all of which were mind boggling awful interviews with global do-gooders.
I think that may deserve to be a campaign issue.
"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
The Trump campaign can't really play this card, as Donald Jr and Ivanka got similar (although probably less lucrative) jobs in the media off their dad.
Given today, I am not sure he needs to go down that line of attack.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Curiously, Franco's economic policies in the late Forties had much in common with those of Attlee's government, with widespread nationalisation, and prices and incomes policies. His support for a dominant position for the Catholic Church, the landowners, and army does put him in on the Right, though. He was always a pragmatist (accepting by the mid fifties that decolonisation was inevitable, for example),
In many ways, totalitarian states have more in common with each other than with parties of right or left in democracies that are theoretically on the same side.
I think that generally the whole idea of putting totalitarian states and their leaderships on the Left or Right is pretty much doomed to failure. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Franco and Mussolini were all Statists, intent on taking and centralising as much power as possible for the State and leaving the individual and communities effectively powerless and utterly dependent and at the mercy of the State. This is something that is symptomatic of both the extreme left and extreme right.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Not sure Communism as practiced in Russia is particularly left wing either - both Fascism and Communism can't really be measured on the classic scale as you suggest. (Communism as practiced by the early church is probably more definitionally left wing)
Don't know enough about Francoism - tried to read Antony Beaver book but got bogged down although it was interesting. Too busy at work.
John Durant If Hillary can't make it through a 9/11 ceremony, how is she supposed to make it through an actual 9/11?
GWB kept reading to a group of school children for 20mins. Then flew to Nebraska.
It wasn't like that at all - this first person account is a superb read.
Rep. Adam Putnam: There’s some debate within the staff that I can hear about how the president needs to address the nation. They’re saying, “We can’t do it here. You can’t do it in front of fifth-graders.” The Secret Service is saying, “You’re doing it here or you’re not doing at all. We’re not taking the time to do it somewhere else. We need to get him secure.”
Dave Wilkinson: We’re talking to folks back at the White House, we’re beginning to get the motorcade up and running, getting the motorcycle cops back, we’re ready to evacuate at a moment’s notice. All of a sudden it hits me: The president’s the only one who doesn’t know that this plane has hit the second building. It was a discomfort to all of us that the president didn’t know. The event was dragging on, and that’s when Andy Card came out.
John Durant If Hillary can't make it through a 9/11 ceremony, how is she supposed to make it through an actual 9/11?
GWB kept reading to a group of school children for 20mins. Then flew to Nebraska.
It wasn't like that at all - this first person account is a superb read.
Rep. Adam Putnam: There’s some debate within the staff that I can hear about how the president needs to address the nation. They’re saying, “We can’t do it here. You can’t do it in front of fifth-graders.” The Secret Service is saying, “You’re doing it here or you’re not doing at all. We’re not taking the time to do it somewhere else. We need to get him secure.”
Dave Wilkinson: We’re talking to folks back at the White House, we’re beginning to get the motorcade up and running, getting the motorcycle cops back, we’re ready to evacuate at a moment’s notice. All of a sudden it hits me: The president’s the only one who doesn’t know that this plane has hit the second building. It was a discomfort to all of us that the president didn’t know. The event was dragging on, and that’s when Andy Card came out.
That is a fantastically detailed account, well worth reading through. If it was a wtf? day for the rest of us, let alone those in the middle of it all.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Was he as anti biolshevik as the mensheviks?
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
The Nazis' traditional support was mainly rural & lower middle class, the urban working class stayed largely with the Reds. After 1933 it didn't really matter of course.
Its very strange how CNN have the cute girl giving Clinton a hug video up, but not the more worrying fainting one. They are normally so fast with their BREAKING NEWS..
I think it was CNBC who paid Chelsea Clinton $600,000 a year, for three years, to be an anchor. In which time she filed about a dozen reports, all of which were mind boggling awful interviews with global do-gooders.
I think that may deserve to be a campaign issue.
"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
The Trump campaign can't really play this card, as Donald Jr and Ivanka got similar (although probably less lucrative) jobs in the media off their dad.
In the case of Ivanka it's clear that she's a natural media performer and would have succeeded even with a low-profile dad.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Was he as anti biolshevik as the mensheviks?
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
The Nazis' traditional support was mainly rural & lower middle class, the urban working class stayed largely with the Reds. After 1933 it didn't really matter of course.
Is there a breakdown of the 1932 results somewhere? In terms of where or who voted for the parties?
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Curiously, Franco's economic policies in the late Forties had much in common with those of Attlee's government, with widespread nationalisation, and prices and incomes policies. His support for a dominant position for the Catholic Church, the landowners, and army does put him in on the Right, though. He was always a pragmatist (accepting by the mid fifties that decolonisation was inevitable, for example),
In many ways, totalitarian states have more in common with each other than with parties of right or left in democracies that are theoretically on the same side.
I think that generally the whole idea of putting totalitarian states and their leaderships on the Left or Right is pretty much doomed to failure. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Franco and Mussolini were all Statists, intent on taking and centralising as much power as possible for the State and leaving the individual and communities effectively powerless and utterly dependent and at the mercy of the State. This is something that is symptomatic of both the extreme left and extreme right.
I agree. And although Franco wanted the Catholic Church to be powerful, he also wanted it to be an arm of the State. That's not so different from the Soviet attitude towards the Orthodox Church after 1941, or the modern Chinese attitude to the Christian churches.
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
Although I would not place nazism/fascism on any normal political spectrum. They stand apart. Francoism was right wing, though. Communism is definitely of the hard left.
Curiously, Franco's economic policies in the late Forties had much in common with those of Attlee's government, with widespread nationalisation, and prices and incomes policies. His support for a dominant position for the Catholic Church, the landowners, and army does put him in on the Right, though. He was always a pragmatist (accepting by the mid fifties that decolonisation was inevitable, for example),
In many ways, totalitarian states have more in common with each other than with parties of right or left in democracies that are theoretically on the same side.
I think that generally the whole idea of putting totalitarian states and their leaderships on the Left or Right is pretty much doomed to failure. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Franco and Mussolini were all Statists, intent on taking and centralising as much power as possible for the State and leaving the individual and communities effectively powerless and utterly dependent and at the mercy of the State. This is something that is symptomatic of both the extreme left and extreme right.
I agree. And although Franco wanted the Catholic Church to be powerful, he also wanted it to be an arm of the State. That's not so different from the Soviet attitude towards the Orthodox Church after 1941, or the modern Chinese attitude to the Christian churches.
In the end, I agree that statists are statists. The reason that Hitler is thought of as right wing is because he sought to contrast himself with the hard left; Franco's support was taken from the political right.
John Durant If Hillary can't make it through a 9/11 ceremony, how is she supposed to make it through an actual 9/11?
GWB kept reading to a group of school children for 20mins. Then flew to Nebraska.
It wasn't like that at all - this first person account is a superb read.
Rep. Adam Putnam: There’s some debate within the staff that I can hear about how the president needs to address the nation. They’re saying, “We can’t do it here. You can’t do it in front of fifth-graders.” The Secret Service is saying, “You’re doing it here or you’re not doing at all. We’re not taking the time to do it somewhere else. We need to get him secure.”
Dave Wilkinson: We’re talking to folks back at the White House, we’re beginning to get the motorcade up and running, getting the motorcycle cops back, we’re ready to evacuate at a moment’s notice. All of a sudden it hits me: The president’s the only one who doesn’t know that this plane has hit the second building. It was a discomfort to all of us that the president didn’t know. The event was dragging on, and that’s when Andy Card came out.
That is a fantastically detailed account, well worth reading through. If it was a wtf? day for the rest of us, let alone those in the middle of it all.
I've read quite a few accounts/watched the docus and it was such a clusterfuck of the totally unexpected and unfortunate.
Same day as a massive training exercise so loads thought it was all a test, systems that didn't talk to each other, communications overloaded en masse so even Air Force One couldn't talk to ground at times, only intermittent local TV news available whilst everyone else had CNN etc...
More4 has some superb docus on 911 yesterday and today - all well worth watching. Gripping and very informative. On catch-up if you missed any.
Is there a breakdown of the 1932 results somewhere? In terms of where or who voted for the parties?
Not that I know of. I've read about from where the Nazis drew their support so many times I take it for granted, which may be a dangerous thing of course!
This para from Wiki states the accepted view I guess.
'In the 1920s the Nazi Party expanded beyond its Bavarian base. Catholic Bavaria maintained its right-wing nostalgia for a Catholic monarch[citation needed]; and Westphalia, along with working-class "Red Berlin", were always the Nazis' weakest areas electorally, even during the Third Reich itself. The areas of strongest Nazi support were in rural Protestant areas such as Schleswig-Holstein, Mecklenburg, Pomerania, and East Prussia. Depressed working-class areas such as Thuringia also produced a strong Nazi vote, while the workers of the Ruhr and Hamburg largely remained loyal to the Social Democrats, the Communist Party of Germany, or the Catholic Centre Party. Nuremberg remained a Nazi Party stronghold, and the first Nuremberg Rally was held there in 1927. These rallies soon became massive displays of Nazi paramilitary power and attracted many recruits. The Nazis' strongest appeal was to the lower middle-classes – farmers, public servants, teachers, small businessmen – who had suffered most from the inflation of the 1920s, so who feared Bolshevism more than anything else. The small business class was receptive to Hitler's antisemitism, since it blamed Jewish big business for its economic problems. University students, disappointed at being too young to have served in the War of 1914–1918, and attracted by the Nazis' radical rhetoric, also became a strong Nazi constituency. By 1929, the party had 130,000 members.'
"Yes, you read that correctly. Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby are among the many Americans who have served prison time for merely lying to federal investigators while not under oath. For those whose last name is not Clinton, this is how the feds typically handle the targets of their investigations."
< I agree. And although Franco wanted the Catholic Church to be powerful, he also wanted it to be an arm of the State. That's not so different from the Soviet attitude towards the Orthodox Church after 1941, or the modern Chinese attitude to the Christian churches.
Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church is the only one comparable.
Soviets and Chinese did it for the same reason as Henry V111 - to give the impression of a church to keep the religious happy but tightly controlled to stop it threatening the state.
Franco and Putin saw/see the church as an integral arm of the state and their philosophy.
Number Cruncher Sports At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
His visceral anti-bolshevism? There was a good piece by Tim Stanley on why considering Hitler as left wing is silly. Can't be bothered to find it though.
Was he as anti biolshevik as the mensheviks?
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
The Nazis' traditional support was mainly rural & lower middle class, the urban working class stayed largely with the Reds. After 1933 it didn't really matter of course.
Is there a breakdown of the 1932 results somewhere? In terms of where or who voted for the parties?
The Nazis won 37% and 33% in 1932 (Hitler won 36% in the Presidential election.). Nazi support peaked at just over 50% in East Prussia and Schleswig. It ran at 40-50% in Eastern Germany (outside Berlin) Franconia, and North Western Germany. They were weakest in Southern Bavaria, Berlin, Hamburg and the Rhineland (in Bavaria, right wing voters were mainly Catholics and monarchists who supported Catholic parties, in Berlin and Hamburg, Communists and Socialists were strong, in the Rhineland, the Catholic and left wing parties were all strong).
#hillaryshealth BRAND NEW VIDEO ANGLE. THIS WAS NOT HEAT. SHE HAS BRAIN/CIRCULATION PROBLEMS https://t.co/bw61rMa4DT
Worse still? Scared to even watch.
She looks almost unconscious - if that were me, I'd be taking it seriously and going to hospital. The 90mins she went AWOL just adds to it.
Everyone is going to make it an issue and talk about it, some may even make a " Weekend at Bernie's" parody , especially on the 15h anniversary of this:
Hillary's "overheating" cover is surely just that. We all know that the Lizards thrive in heat...
That clip is horrible to watch. She doesn't just keel over, she does something strange. I agree about the rumours now elevated from conspiracy mags to MSM.
#hillaryshealth BRAND NEW VIDEO ANGLE. THIS WAS NOT HEAT. SHE HAS BRAIN/CIRCULATION PROBLEMS https://t.co/bw61rMa4DT
I think it's the original video reversed.
It is the original video reversed and zoomed in.
People are trying to cash in on this.
They are most certainly but it is legitimate in view of the context of the next POTUS. She does seem to be ill and I would not want to speculate on how serious it is as there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation.
I recently spent three weeks in Italy in 35+ daily temperature and high humidity and both my ankles and feet became very swollen for the first time in my life (72). On my return they returned to normal but to be sure I saw my doctor who confirmed it was dehydration and that I was in good shape for my age and there was nothing to worry about
Is there a breakdown of the 1932 results somewhere? In terms of where or who voted for the parties?
Not that I know of. I've read about from where the Nazis drew their support so many times I take it for granted, which may be a dangerous thing of course!
This para from Wiki states the accepted view I guess.
'In the 2010s the UKIP Party expanded beyond its Essex base. Middle England maintained its right-wing nostalgia for a Grammar Schools; and Scotland, along with working-class "Red London", were always UKIPs weakest areas electorally, even during the Labour Government of 1997-2010 The areas of strongest UKIP support were in rural areas such as Somerset, Kent, Lincolnshire, and East Anglia. Depressed working-class areas such as Doncaster also produced a strong UKIP vote, while the workers of the Valleys and Manchester largely remained loyal to the Liberal Democrats, the Labour Party, or the Green Party. Clacton remained a UKIP Party stronghold, and the first UKIP Rally was held there in 2007. These rallies soon became massive displays of UKIP power and attracted many recruits. UKIP's strongest appeal was to the lower middle-classes – farmers, public servants, teachers, small businessmen – who had suffered most from the house price inflation of the 2000s, so who feared Labour policies more than anything else. The small business class was receptive to Farages anticorporatism, since it blamed big business for its economic problems. Late middle aged people , disappointed at being too young to have voted in the referendum of 1975 and attracted by the UKIP radical rhetoric, also became a strong UKIPconstituency. By 2015 the party had 40,000 members.'
Number Cruncher Sports At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
Go Team GB! A clear second in the medals table too, wonderful to see.
Number Cruncher Sports At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
Go Team GB! A clear second in the medals table too, wonderful to see.
#hillaryshealth BRAND NEW VIDEO ANGLE. THIS WAS NOT HEAT. SHE HAS BRAIN/CIRCULATION PROBLEMS https://t.co/bw61rMa4DT
Worse still? Scared to even watch.
She looks almost unconscious - if that were me, I'd be taking it seriously and going to hospital. The 90mins she went AWOL just adds to it.
Everyone is going to make it an issue and talk about it, some may even make a " Weekend at Bernie's" parody , especially on the 15h anniversary of this:
The greatest story in that edition was: "Hijackers Surprised to Find Selves in Hell", although "God Clarifies Thou Shalt Not Kill Commandment" was also pretty awesome.
Is there a breakdown of the 1932 results somewhere? In terms of where or who voted for the parties?
Not that I know of. I've read about from where the Nazis drew their support so many times I take it for granted, which may be a dangerous thing of course!
This para from Wiki states the accepted view I guess.
'In the 2010s the UKIP Party expanded beyond its Essex base. Middle England maintained its right-wing nostalgia for a Grammar Schools; and Scotland, along with working-class "Red London", were always UKIPs weakest areas electorally, even during the Labour Government of 1997-2010 The areas of strongest UKIP support were in rural areas such as Somerset, Kent, Lincolnshire, and East Anglia. Depressed working-class areas such as Doncaster also produced a strong UKIP vote, while the workers of the Valleys and Manchester largely remained loyal to the Liberal Democrats, the Labour Party, or the Conservative Party. Clacton remained a UKIP Party stronghold, and the first UKIP Rally was held there in 2007. These rallies soon became massive displays of UKIP power and attracted many recruits. UKIP's strongest appeal was to the lower middle-classes – farmers, public servants, teachers, small businessmen – who had suffered most from the house price inflation of the 2000s, so who feared Labour policies more than anything else. The small business class was receptive to Farages anticorporatism, since it blamed big business for its economic problems. Late middle aged people , disappointed at being too young to have voted in the referendum of 1975 and attracted by the UKIP radical rhetoric, also became a strong UKIPconstituency. By 2015 the party had 40,000 members.'
"Yes, you read that correctly. Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby are among the many Americans who have served prison time for merely lying to federal investigators while not under oath. For those whose last name is not Clinton, this is how the feds typically handle the targets of their investigations."
So Trump should say "I hope Hilary is feeling well and campaigning again as soon as possible." i.e. She's ill but I'm being nice. He'll probably mime someone having a stroke.
#hillaryshealth BRAND NEW VIDEO ANGLE. THIS WAS NOT HEAT. SHE HAS BRAIN/CIRCULATION PROBLEMS https://t.co/bw61rMa4DT
Worse still? Scared to even watch.
She looks almost unconscious - if that were me, I'd be taking it seriously and going to hospital. The 90mins she went AWOL just adds to it.
Everyone is going to make it an issue and talk about it, some may even make a " Weekend at Bernie's" parody , especially on the 15h anniversary of this:
Number Cruncher Sports At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
Go Team GB! A clear second in the medals table too, wonderful to see.
Bloody benefit cheats ;-)
Interesting to see Ukraine in third place, according to the Ukrainian Mrs Sandpit they have managed to unearth some good Paralympians in the weeks leading up to the Games...
Number Cruncher Sports At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
Go Team GB! A clear second in the medals table too, wonderful to see.
Bloody benefit cheats ;-)
Interesting to see Ukraine in third place, according to the Ukrainian Mrs Sandpit they have managed to unearth some good Paralympians in the weeks leading up to the Games...
I hope we aren't going to see any repeat along the lines of the disgraceful Spanish Basketball team.
I'm on the West Coast this week. I was planning to be in SF on Wednesday evening, but may now go the Hillary rally in Nevada. I wonder if I can go as a Politicalbetting affiliated reporter
Its hardly surprising. Most people think Hitler was right wing rather than extreme left wing despite the fact that he ran the German nations Socialist Workers Party.
I can call a dog a zebra, it doesn't make it a zebra.
I am struggling to get my head around the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Who'd have thought it?
I'm sure we've had this debate before, but which of Hitler's policies do you regard as being objectively right wing?
The large scale privatisation programmes and the significant increases in spending on the armed forces are two that come to mind. Also the restrictions placed on trade union activity.
It was corporatism that drove the union restrictions (and the ownership point). Corporatism is not particularly right wing.
Increased spending on armed forces is characteristic of all dictatorships, not just right wing ones
Which leaves the privatisation :-)
As I say, though, nazism/fascism is not on the normal political spectrum.
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"Would you pay $600k a year for this?"
Although it's Hillary's daughter not Hillary herself, dragging in a family member maybe off limits, but corruption seems to be a family issue not just Hillary's.
What are the odds on Tim Kaine being the next POTUS - which he will be if Clinton wins in November then snuffs it before she takes office in Jan 2017?
Clinton 1.575
Trump 3.425
Sanders 28
Biden 77.5
That's a 5% implied probability of a Democratic winner who isn't the current Democratic candidate. And we're well into September. Wow!
If Trump withdraws, the Republican replacement - assuming they are chosen in time to be able to win 270 electoral seats - is likely to win by a landslide, yes. (Which would be a highly profitable outcome for me personally, except if they are someone completely unexpected.)
If Clinton withdraws, I would dearly love to watch Bernie Sanders win a landslide. I would cry tears of joy to witness the US population embrace socialism, and at long last to hear it tell the US elite where it can shove its dog-eat-dog ideology. But unfortunately that wouldn't be a foregone conclusion. Trump is extremely well known. He is like a cartoon character. I would say he is similar to a big figure in professional wrestling, but he actually is a big figure in professional wrestling. Sadly he would be in with a good chance of defeating Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Tim Kaine.
(Side note: please can we have some good conspiracy theories about the Jesuit Tim Kaine. I mean the SJs have already taken the papal throne, right?)
There is also the possibility that both candidates withdraw. In which case...who knows? Tradition would suggest a Republican victory, but maybe having been thrown out of the window tradition would have little chance of re-entering through the door?
Things are likely to heat up as the date of the first debate approaches.
" It's pretty obvious that Hillary passed away some time ago and has been replaced by a intermittently malfunctioning cyborg. Although, seriously, how could you tell the difference? Somehow Putin is involved in this."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/?postshare=4011473608703641&tid=ss_tw
I'd argue it was competition for the same power base that encouraged him to be so intrinsically opposed to them
No mention of who actually becomes president in January, but they will void the market if the election doesn't take place in 2016.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/#/politics/event/27713489/market?marketId=1.107373419
Increased spending on armed forces is characteristic of all dictatorships, not just right wing ones
David Mills
If @SkyMurnaghan had really wanted to embarrass Emily Thornberry, he'd have asked her to name the rest of the shadow cabinet.
Don't know enough about Francoism - tried to read Antony Beaver book but got bogged down although it was interesting. Too busy at work.
As I say, though, nazism/fascism is not on the normal political spectrum.
And the Nazis were far more anti-Bolshevik than the Mensheviks were either before or after 1917, although to compare Nazis-versus-Bolsheviks with Mensheviks-versus-Bolsheviks is to overload the term "Bolsheviks".
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Franco-Biography-Paul-Preston/dp/0006862101
One has to feel sorry for her - in 2008 she looked set to get the nomination until young Mr. Obama turned up and sent her to the back of queue. She'd probably have beaten McCain and there's no reason she wouldn't have gone for a second term.
Now she's got the nomination and she might not even see the end of her first term, if Trump doesn't beat her anyway that is.
If Hillary can't make it through a 9/11 ceremony, how is she supposed to make it through an actual 9/11?
If Hillary makes it to election day and wins, she is leaving the White House only dead or under arrest.
I think there are higher chances that Kaine or Pence become president before 2020 due to impeachment of either President Hillary or President Trump.
Either way it looks like 4 miserable years for America.
In many ways, totalitarian states have more in common with each other than with parties of right or left in democracies that are theoretically on the same side.
Can I quote the great Hugh Gaitskell on Britain joining the EEC: it would mean "the end of Britain as an independent European state, the end of a thousand years of history! You may say, all right! Let it end! But, my goodness, it's a decision that needs a little care and thought."
Plenty of people, on both left and right, made the sovereignty arguments plain in 1975. It's just that the UK economy was regarded as so sick, and the continental economies so strong, that those arguments were relegated to the sidelines.
Rep. Adam Putnam: There’s some debate within the staff that I can hear about how the president needs to address the nation. They’re saying, “We can’t do it here. You can’t do it in front of fifth-graders.” The Secret Service is saying, “You’re doing it here or you’re not doing at all. We’re not taking the time to do it somewhere else. We need to get him secure.”
Dave Wilkinson: We’re talking to folks back at the White House, we’re beginning to get the motorcade up and running, getting the motorcycle cops back, we’re ready to evacuate at a moment’s notice. All of a sudden it hits me: The president’s the only one who doesn’t know that this plane has hit the second building. It was a discomfort to all of us that the president didn’t know. The event was dragging on, and that’s when Andy Card came out.
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Had assumed that others had seen something at the same time as the posting.
Computer embuggerance cannot be helped.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37332106
She now says that she's feeling great, but I wonder.
https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/status/775015158976393216
The summary of today's event https://t.co/RDbZPygjIM
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/774062203213385728
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-poll/index.html?sr=twCNN091116hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-poll0451PMStoryLink
Same day as a massive training exercise so loads thought it was all a test, systems that didn't talk to each other, communications overloaded en masse so even Air Force One couldn't talk to ground at times, only intermittent local TV news available whilst everyone else had CNN etc...
More4 has some superb docus on 911 yesterday and today - all well worth watching. Gripping and very informative. On catch-up if you missed any.
I've read about from where the Nazis drew their support so many times I take it for granted, which may be a dangerous thing of course!
This para from Wiki states the accepted view I guess.
'In the 1920s the Nazi Party expanded beyond its Bavarian base. Catholic Bavaria maintained its right-wing nostalgia for a Catholic monarch[citation needed]; and Westphalia, along with working-class "Red Berlin", were always the Nazis' weakest areas electorally, even during the Third Reich itself. The areas of strongest Nazi support were in rural Protestant areas such as Schleswig-Holstein, Mecklenburg, Pomerania, and East Prussia. Depressed working-class areas such as Thuringia also produced a strong Nazi vote, while the workers of the Ruhr and Hamburg largely remained loyal to the Social Democrats, the Communist Party of Germany, or the Catholic Centre Party. Nuremberg remained a Nazi Party stronghold, and the first Nuremberg Rally was held there in 1927. These rallies soon became massive displays of Nazi paramilitary power and attracted many recruits. The Nazis' strongest appeal was to the lower middle-classes – farmers, public servants, teachers, small businessmen – who had suffered most from the inflation of the 1920s, so who feared Bolshevism more than anything else. The small business class was receptive to Hitler's antisemitism, since it blamed Jewish big business for its economic problems. University students, disappointed at being too young to have served in the War of 1914–1918, and attracted by the Nazis' radical rhetoric, also became a strong Nazi constituency. By 1929, the party had 130,000 members.'
http://tinyurl.com/zspp5w6
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clintons-well-earned-bad-press/article/2601360
Soviets and Chinese did it for the same reason as Henry V111 - to give the impression of a church to keep the religious happy but tightly controlled to stop it threatening the state.
Franco and Putin saw/see the church as an integral arm of the state and their philosophy.
This article is enlightening.
https://20committee.com/2014/12/27/putins-orthodox-jihad/
#hillaryshealth BRAND NEW VIDEO ANGLE. THIS WAS NOT HEAT. SHE HAS BRAIN/CIRCULATION PROBLEMS https://t.co/bw61rMa4DT
People are trying to cash in on this.
At the London #Paralympics, #GBR had 15 gold medals at the END of day four. Right now they have 20 and it's only 3pm on day four #Rio2016
One of their newsreaders called it a "stumble".
https://twitter.com/DoctorSyntax/status/775020950358196225
I recently spent three weeks in Italy in 35+ daily temperature and high humidity and both my ankles and feet became very swollen for the first time in my life (72). On my return they returned to normal but to be sure I saw my doctor who confirmed it was dehydration and that I was in good shape for my age and there was nothing to worry about
What the hell causes this?
Another video of Hillary Clinton "collapsing" today, taken from a different angle https://t.co/rUGvNhkqzb
theonion.com/article/god-angrily-clarifies-dont-kill-rule-222