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Good god no!taffys said:Grayling.
Speak to any lawyer you like about Grayling.
Gove, although divisive, was actually seemingly doing an OK job. I'd personally prefer Gove to stay in post. Not Grayling, perrrllllease!0 -
Laying Osborne a couple of years ago when he looked absolutely unbeatable was easy money. Thanks for that tip btw.TheScreamingEagles said:
Keep a spreadsheet, so you can track both next Con Leader and next PM.ThreeQuidder said:
I think my new betting strategy will be to lay the favourite on the Tory leadership market for a tenner a month once the liquidity gets going.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll use that line, my mother would be appalled if she found just how much I invest, she thinks I have the odd bet at a tenner a time each month.Richard_Nabavi said:
That's why I don't gamble. I invest in the politics markets.TheScreamingEagles said:
If some PBers listened to religion or their parents, they would never have gambled a penny in their lifeRichard_Nabavi said:
She's a vicar's daughter!Tissue_Price said:
Theresa May?Richard_Nabavi said:
Laying Boris was very profitable this time around.0 -
Anthony Eden, created Earl of Avon, although I'm not sure when. All others since (Macmillan aside) have been life peers. I think Wilson changed the rules so only life peerages would be considered for ex-PMs. Major refused one, not sure if Blair and Brown were offered them.HurstLlama said:
This "conventional hereditary Earldom"; I remember, when I was a child, being told that was the case but who was the last PM who accepted such a thing on leaving office? Macmillan didn't he only accepted elevation after the death of his son. Churchill was famously offered a dukedom by the king himself and turned it down.RobD said:
Yep, and given the '99 Act he could still take the conventional hereditary Earldom while still being an MPKentRising said:I still want Dave. Give him Education.
So this conventional earldom, when was the convention last honoured? Does anyone know?0 -
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Her drunken outburst amongst EU loving students outside parliament suggests she should be kept as far away from senior office as possible.FrankBooth said:0 -
Hearing of an 'interesting' appointment by May for Lord Chancellor.
Any guesses?0 -
Presumably Cameron will say a few (more) words on leaving No 10?
If so, will he become the first PM in history to effectively announce his resignation 3 times from the steps of No 10 (8am on the 24th, Monday this week, and today)?0 -
One thing we can confidently predict: PMQs are going to return to dreary, earnest questions with tractor statistic replies.0
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Louise Mensch as minister for digital technologies0
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Blair was about 67 times, but not all were in Downing Street of course.Bob__Sykes said:Presumably Cameron will say a few (more) words on leaving No 10?
If so, will he become the first PM in history to effectively announce his resignation 3 times from the steps of No 10 (8am on the 24th, Monday this week, and today)?0 -
No probs, it dawned on me the other weekend, I've been betting on Cameron's successor since 2006.MaxPB said:
Laying Osborne a couple of years ago when he looked absolutely unbeatable was easy money. Thanks for that tip btw.TheScreamingEagles said:
Keep a spreadsheet, so you can track both next Con Leader and next PM.ThreeQuidder said:
I think my new betting strategy will be to lay the favourite on the Tory leadership market for a tenner a month once the liquidity gets going.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll use that line, my mother would be appalled if she found just how much I invest, she thinks I have the odd bet at a tenner a time each month.Richard_Nabavi said:
That's why I don't gamble. I invest in the politics markets.TheScreamingEagles said:
If some PBers listened to religion or their parents, they would never have gambled a penny in their lifeRichard_Nabavi said:
She's a vicar's daughter!Tissue_Price said:
Theresa May?Richard_Nabavi said:
Laying Boris was very profitable this time around.
As Tissue Price said, you could start a bonfire with my losing betting slips.
I think I backed Alan Duncan in 20070 -
Juncker?Jobabob said:Hearing of an 'interesting' appointment by May for Lord Chancellor.
Any guesses?0 -
Yes please! Just to see the look of horror on the face of Sturgeon.TheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Jobabob said:
Hearing of an 'interesting' appointment by May for Lord Chancellor.
Any guesses?
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Eden, Earl of Avon. But yeah, a very old customHurstLlama said:
This "conventional hereditary Earldom"; I remember, when I was a child, being told that was the case but who was the last PM who accepted such a thing on leaving office? Macmillan didn't he only accepted elevation after the death of his son. Churchill was famously offered a dukedom by the king himself and turned it down.RobD said:
Yep, and given the '99 Act he could still take the conventional hereditary Earldom while still being an MPKentRising said:I still want Dave. Give him Education.
So this conventional earldom, when was the convention last honoured? Does anyone know? 0 -
Back of the queue?
One cabinet minister, who campaigned vigorously for Remain, admitted to me this week that he had been taken aback by how many countries were interested in making trade deals with the UK.CarlottaVance said:Forsyth on May:
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/expect-theresa-may/0 -
Could bring back some bad memories for @JackW re: Glencoe.TheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Not as early as that for me. I think it might be like that for May though. Initial thoughts are to lay Osborne and Boris again though, it might be tough for pre-2010 MPs to get a look in next time.TheScreamingEagles said:
No probs, it dawned on me the other weekend, I've been betting on Cameron's successor since 2006.MaxPB said:
Laying Osborne a couple of years ago when he looked absolutely unbeatable was easy money. Thanks for that tip btw.TheScreamingEagles said:
Keep a spreadsheet, so you can track both next Con Leader and next PM.ThreeQuidder said:
I think my new betting strategy will be to lay the favourite on the Tory leadership market for a tenner a month once the liquidity gets going.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll use that line, my mother would be appalled if she found just how much I invest, she thinks I have the odd bet at a tenner a time each month.Richard_Nabavi said:
That's why I don't gamble. I invest in the politics markets.TheScreamingEagles said:
If some PBers listened to religion or their parents, they would never have gambled a penny in their lifeRichard_Nabavi said:
She's a vicar's daughter!Tissue_Price said:
Theresa May?Richard_Nabavi said:
Laying Boris was very profitable this time around.
As Tissue Price said, you could start a bonfire with my losing betting slips.
I think I backed Alan Duncan in 20070 -
TSE for Minister for Cheesy Pop Music, Snazzy Footwear and Superhero Movies! 0
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I'm not sure what to do this time, if Corbyn stays, then Labour splits, and she's there until 2025, if Jez is toppled, then that buggers up my strategyMaxPB said:
Not as early as that for me. I think it might be like that for May though. Initial thoughts are to lay Osborne and Boris again though, it might be tough for pre-2010 MPs to get a look in next time.TheScreamingEagles said:
No probs, it dawned on me the other weekend, I've been betting on Cameron's successor since 2006.MaxPB said:
Laying Osborne a couple of years ago when he looked absolutely unbeatable was easy money. Thanks for that tip btw.TheScreamingEagles said:
Keep a spreadsheet, so you can track both next Con Leader and next PM.ThreeQuidder said:
I think my new betting strategy will be to lay the favourite on the Tory leadership market for a tenner a month once the liquidity gets going.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll use that line, my mother would be appalled if she found just how much I invest, she thinks I have the odd bet at a tenner a time each month.Richard_Nabavi said:
That's why I don't gamble. I invest in the politics markets.TheScreamingEagles said:
If some PBers listened to religion or their parents, they would never have gambled a penny in their lifeRichard_Nabavi said:
She's a vicar's daughter!Tissue_Price said:
Theresa May?Richard_Nabavi said:
Laying Boris was very profitable this time around.
As Tissue Price said, you could start a bonfire with my losing betting slips.
I think I backed Alan Duncan in 20070 -
Yay.John_M said:One thing we can confidently predict: PMQs are going to return to dreary, earnest questions with tractor statistic replies.
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I want to be Lord Privy Seal, so I can crack that old gag.Sunil_Prasannan said:TSE for Minister for Cheesy Pop Music, Snazzy Footwear and Superhero Movies!
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Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.0
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Mr. Eagles, so, bet on May to be there for a while, and have a covering bet on the non-Corbyn candidate to win.0
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@TSE Thought you wanted the Ministry of Zombie Apocalypse Planning and Survival?0
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The next real excitement in the US campaign is the announcement of the VP candidates. And trying to predict those names is not easy!Richard_Nabavi said:Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.
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The Betfair Tory market consists of £4 traded on Stephen Crabb at 25.00
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Yes, my thoughts precisely, which is why it's going to be tough for some of the old guard to get a look in. Even if Corbyn is ousted and we lose to a Lab/SNP/LD rabble it's going to be tough for the likes of Boris and Osborne. The party will want to move on and present a fresh face.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not sure what to do this time, if Corbyn stays, then Labour splits, and she's there until 2025, if Jez is toppled, then that buggers up my strategyMaxPB said:
Not as early as that for me. I think it might be like that for May though. Initial thoughts are to lay Osborne and Boris again though, it might be tough for pre-2010 MPs to get a look in next time.TheScreamingEagles said:
No probs, it dawned on me the other weekend, I've been betting on Cameron's successor since 2006.MaxPB said:
Laying Osborne a couple of years ago when he looked absolutely unbeatable was easy money. Thanks for that tip btw.TheScreamingEagles said:
Keep a spreadsheet, so you can track both next Con Leader and next PM.ThreeQuidder said:
I think my new betting strategy will be to lay the favourite on the Tory leadership market for a tenner a month once the liquidity gets going.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll use that line, my mother would be appalled if she found just how much I invest, she thinks I have the odd bet at a tenner a time each month.Richard_Nabavi said:
That's why I don't gamble. I invest in the politics markets.TheScreamingEagles said:
If some PBers listened to religion or their parents, they would never have gambled a penny in their lifeRichard_Nabavi said:
She's a vicar's daughter!Tissue_Price said:
Theresa May?Richard_Nabavi said:
Laying Boris was very profitable this time around.
As Tissue Price said, you could start a bonfire with my losing betting slips.
I think I backed Alan Duncan in 20070 -
Boris for DPM. Sounds important, but you don't actually have any responsibilities. Perfect for him really.ydoethur said:Is there any market on the official deputy?
If Hammond is Chancellor, he will presumably be the de facto deputy, but I was wondering if Boris might be made FSoS and Leader of the House or Party Chairman as a sop to Leavers.0 -
She is appointing joint Chiefs of Staff in Nick Timothy & Fiona Hill.Richard_Nabavi said:Do we know who the key players in Team May are (apart from the PM to be, of course)?
The former is a regular columnist on ConHome - his most recent:
http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/06/nick-timothy-ive-already-voted-leave-but-i-cant-wait-to-get-away-from-this-bloody-referendum-campaign.html0 -
Yup, last PB thread on the White House race was on June 8th, normally we'd be having at least one thread a day on it.Richard_Nabavi said:Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.
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ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Thanks.Tissue_Price said:She is appointing joint Chiefs of Staff in Nick Timothy & Fiona Hill.
The former is a regular columnist on ConHome - his most recent:
http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/06/nick-timothy-ive-already-voted-leave-but-i-cant-wait-to-get-away-from-this-bloody-referendum-campaign.html0 -
Lord Shitter ManateeTheScreamingEagles said:
I want to be Lord Privy Seal, so I can crack that old gag.Sunil_Prasannan said:TSE for Minister for Cheesy Pop Music, Snazzy Footwear and Superhero Movies!
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I turned down the role of Viceroy of Scotland.RobD said:
ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
I can serve Mrs May best from PB0 -
What are the chances all four top jobs will be women?0
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Any chance of Wollaston in a senior role?0
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well you are Viceroy of PB in OGH's absence, and Governor of PB Tories.TheScreamingEagles said:
I turned down the role of Viceroy of Scotland.RobD said:
ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
I can serve Mrs May best from PB 0 -
BTW. Governorship of Southern Thule still up for grabs.....0
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Yes - even if one doesn't agree with it, there is a clear argument for transparency and openness in this kind of decision-making. Moreover an open ballot would have been the default (please correct me if I'm wrong) so it is deviation from this that really required an exceptional justification. I was appalled at the insinuation that anyone disagreeing with a secret ballot was directly "endorsing bullying" - that really is one from the nasty playbook.david_herdson said:
I think there is a distinction to be drawn between knowing how a representative has voted - in parliament, on an NEC, at a conference etc. - when that individual might need to be held to account for their decisions, and knowing how an individual has voted at an election, referendum or vote of whatever kind, where the voter doesn't need to be accountable for their action and so should have maximum freedom.ydoethur said:
I don't know. Gladstone brought in secret ballots in national elections precisely to make them less open to bribery and bullying. It's also why Thatcher brought in secret strike ballots. I would have said those moves made them more democratic as people would then vote without fear for their lives. I can't see, by contrast, why a ballot on labour membership rules needs to be public.MyBurningEars said:
The bullying and violence is disgusting.
I don't think I would go as far as Baxter did, however, in claiming that Corbyn 'endorsed bullying by voting against secret ballot'.
Voting for the secret ballot would have been “an active thing he could have done to demonstrate his support to colleagues taking a very difficult decision yesterday, and he wouldn’t do it. It was was the most shameful thing I have ever seen,” she said.
I thought the decision to have a secret ballot was gruesomely undemocratic. (I can understand why people would have wanted it for personal protection, but there were clearly other less wholesome reasons why people would have wanted it too.) I think it is pretty outrageous to claim that someone wanting votes to be made public was actively endorsing intimidation and violence - that's a nasty smear.0 -
The lectern is out0
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Shame that Boris has renounced his US citizenship - otherwise he could have been Trump's VP!0
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Philip Hammond is like May's twin brother in character. Only their Mother can tell them apart!0
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AKA the Labour Party.DaemonBarber said:@TSE Thought you wanted the Ministry of Zombie Apocalypse Planning and Survival?
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Activate the Queen!!TheScreamingEagles said:The lectern is out
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Priti for Chief Whip?0
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Boles and Soubry are rivals for the bitch of the year contest.taffys said:I saw a tweet from Boles that was rather unkind about Anna Soubry.
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Bit more on these two here: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cd96fa72-4830-11e6-b387-64ab0a67014c.htmlRichard_Nabavi said:
Thanks.Tissue_Price said:She is appointing joint Chiefs of Staff in Nick Timothy & Fiona Hill.
The former is a regular columnist on ConHome - his most recent:
http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/06/nick-timothy-ive-already-voted-leave-but-i-cant-wait-to-get-away-from-this-bloody-referendum-campaign.html0 -
The SNP's behaviour at PMQ's today made my wife ashamed to be a Scot. Please do not judge Scots by this display of churlish bigotryRobD said:
ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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and SurvivalJackW said:
AKA the Labour Party.DaemonBarber said:@TSE Thought you wanted the Ministry of Zombie Apocalypse Planning and Survival?
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PM on the move ....0
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Hammond has more charisma.DaveDave said:Philip Hammond is like May's twin brother in character. Only their Mother can tell them apart!
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Par for the SNP!Big_G_NorthWales said:
The SNP's behaviour at PMQ's today made my wife ashamed to be a Scot. Please do not judge Scots by this display of churlish bigotryRobD said:
ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Dave on the steps of Downing Street0
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I've been snowed under most of the day, missed all the fun.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The SNP's behaviour at PMQ's today made my wife ashamed to be a Scot. Please do not judge Scots by this display of churlish bigotryRobD said:
ExcellentTheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May is abolishing the Scottish Parliament appointing Ruth Davidson as Governor of ScotlandTheWhiteRabbit said:
She would be wasted at the Scottish Office or indeed at Westminster, for the most part.oxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
What happened?
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Hannibal LecternTheScreamingEagles said:The lectern is out
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A Guardian poll of 375 supporters of Bernie Sanders:
46% (171) to vote for Jill Stein (Green)
23% (88) for Hillary Clinton
10% (38) to write Bernie Sanders in
5% (20) for Donald Trump
4% (15) for Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
11% (41) DK/WS
This is a very different distribution from what the Pew Research Centre found:
85% Clinton
9% Trump
6% DK or will vote for another candidate
Seems to me that Pew didn't list Stein as an option.
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Actually, I've decided not to resign?0
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HER MAJESTY HAS BEEN ACTIVATED
+++ ALL ORGANIC LIFE MUST CLEAR THE AREA +++
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because she is normal. Not like the rest of the tw*ts in politicsoxfordsimon said:
Good. She really is something rather special.ToryJim said:Ruth Davidson amongst some new Privy Council appointments!
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Did any Lib Dems give a tribute at PMQs?0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ENX3aHlqUTheScreamingEagles said:Dave on the steps of Downing Street
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No Lib Dems were called.David_Evershed said:Did any Lib Dems give a tribute at PMQs?
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Nick Clegg was (rather amazingly I think) not called.David_Evershed said:Did any Lib Dems give a tribute at PMQs?
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Gingrich or Pence for Trump. Christie messed up on the West Bank.oxfordsimon said:
The next real excitement in the US campaign is the announcement of the VP candidates. And trying to predict those names is not easy!Richard_Nabavi said:Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.
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Dave climbs into a giant hot air balloon shaped like a pig and floats gaily out of our life forever.0
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Surely Amber Rudd re Boris.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Boles and Soubry are rivals for the bitch of the year contest.taffys said:I saw a tweet from Boles that was rather unkind about Anna Soubry.
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Not really amazing, Mr. N., considering we have just had/are going through a revolution in which the whole basis of government policy for about sixty years has just been thrown in the dustbin because of a vote by the electorate.Richard_Nabavi said:Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.
Who when it comes down to it gives a big rat's arse about the stuff going on in the USA, we have our own problems/theatre to be getting on with.0 -
On the subject of Trump's VP, the hot ticket at the moment seems to be Mike Pence.
Only thing is, he'd have to renounce standing for re-election as Indiana governor - by noon on Friday. Is he really going to want to give up the governorship on the off-chance of a Trump victory?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-mike-pence-meeting-225472
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NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
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True, Mr Llama, but you've forgotten the 'Betting' bit of 'Political Betting'.HurstLlama said:
Not really amazing, Mr. N., considering we have just had/are going through a revolution in which the whole basis of government policy for about sixty years has just been thrown in the dustbin because of a vote by the electorate.Richard_Nabavi said:Amazing to think that the Republican Convention is only a few days away, and we're hardly discussing the US at all.
Who when it comes down to it gives a big rat's arse about the stuff going on in the USA, we have our own problems/theatre to be getting on with.0 -
A prediction or a fantasy, Mr. Rentool?SandyRentool said:Priti for Chief Whip?
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If only he'd have remained neutral in the EUref campaign, he would still be PM.0
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No. Odd that. An ungrateful bunch for slaughtering them at GE2015.David_Evershed said:Did any Lib Dems give a tribute at PMQs?
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