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surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

She's being so insistent about it either she's right, and even if carelessly worded the report of her words is outrageous, or she's delusional. I find it hard to believe she could truly be so delusional, so my first guess would be the full transcript would be incendiary but provide wiggle room to fuel a narrative of being fitted up by the 'remainstream' media.

AlastairMeeks said:

John_M said:

Pulpstar said:

Theresa May insisting she is no "remainer" in the Telegraph o_O !?

I'm sorry but I'm reasonably sure she was on the remain side of the argument during the campaign, however quietly...

We are all Leavers now. Don't tell Alastair.

Leave is Leave. We shall not rejoin the EU in the foreseeable future.

Indeed. Though it is somewhat hilarious that Remainers may be the better managers of Leave, on current evidence, than Leavers would be.

kle4 said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

She's being so insistent about it either she's right, and even if carelessly worded the report of her words is outrageous, or she's delusional. I find it hard to believe she could truly be so delusional, so my first guess would be the full transcript would be incendiary but provide wiggle room to fuel a narrative of being fitted up by the 'remainstream' media.

Well, she's certainly gone for broke.

rcs1000 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

anotherDave said:

JohnO said:

Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?

I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.

She maybe forced to by public revulsion

She will win. I thought May would, but not now.

She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.

Just horrible comments unworthy of you

I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.

Of course my children and grand children are the most precious part of our lives but to try to score points over someone who has been unable to experience the joy of children through no fault of their own is unacceptable, crass, and unbecoming of anyone seeking the highest office in the land

Joy of children???

Clearly you've never had a child vomit into you face, mouth, eyes and nose when you're sleeping. I tell you, I didn't feel much joy opening my eyes and feeling them fill with a mixture stomach acid and semi-digested milk.

Don't give them your left over champagne then!

kle4 said:

Indeed. Though it is somewhat hilarious that Remainers may be the better managers of Leave, on current evidence, than Leavers would be.

They are going to have to be, given that it looks as though only Remainers will remain.

HYUFD said:

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/751087083905753088

I see the paranoid string of Leavers are in full swing still - it doesn't matter who wanted Brexit before, we are getting Brexit now, and its about who can get the best deal. If that's Leadsome, fine, that's an opinion, but it's not a Remain vs Leave fight anymore.

I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.

The Times backed Remain. May will clearly win now, she was going to anyway even without this interview, take us into EFTA/EEA and probably do a free movement deal. Then the betrayal cries of the hardcore Leavers will arise and UKIP will aim to pick up where Leadsom left off

I wasn't merely speaking of the Times - remainstream media is clearly not referencing just the times and this story, and Leaver backing media and commentators have backed May too, therefore dismissing attacks on Leadsome as from the 'remainstream media' by implication encompasses those bits and people we know were for leave.

We've seen it endlessly since the referendum.

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

https://twitter.com/AlanDuncanMP/status/751539430175956992

Paul_Bedfordshire said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Charles said:

anotherDave said:

Charles said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

anotherDave said:

JohnO said:

Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?

I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.

She maybe forced to by public revulsion

She will win. I thought May would, but not now.

She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.

Just horrible comments unworthy of you

I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.

When I think of how wonderful it is to have children, I feel nothing but compassion for those who can not.

Leadsom's comments are shameful

She has repudiated the Times piece.

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751531686987501570

As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion

She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.

Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?

Yes, even leaving ethics aside your comment is very valid

The Times is supposed to be our premier newspaper. Can you not expect professional behaviour from their journalists, when dealing with a candidate for PM?

Paul_Bedfordshire said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Charles said:

anotherDave said:

Charles said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

anotherDave said:

JohnO said:

Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?

I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.

She maybe forced to by public revulsion

She will win. I thought May would, but not now.

She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.

Just horrible comments unworthy of you

I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.

When I think of how wonderful it is to have children, I feel nothing but compassion for those who can not.

Leadsom's comments are shameful

She has repudiated the Times piece.

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751531686987501570

As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion

She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.

Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?

Yes, even leaving ethics aside your comment is very valid

There is another point which is not ethnical, per se.

I posted earlier about my unease with Leadsom talking about difficult topics.

Tonight she was clearly discussing the implications of having children on a person's job and clearly lacked the tact or diplomacy to pull it off.

I really do think it sets the tone here.

Chris said:

The complete opposite of what she said? What does that mean?

That she said it _wasn't_ sad for Theresa May that she couldn't have children? That she said that having children _didn't_ give her (Leadsom) a stake in the country's future?

Being charitable, she presumably was not intending to be literal when saying it was the complete opposite, but was using the phrase figuratively as an emphasis on how wrong it was.

corporeal said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Charles said:

anotherDave said:

Charles said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

chestnut said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

anotherDave said:

JohnO said:

Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?

I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.

She maybe forced to by public revulsion

She will win. I thought May would, but not now.

She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.

Just horrible comments unworthy of you

I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.

When I think of how wonderful it is to have children, I feel nothing but compassion for those who can not.

Leadsom's comments are shameful

She has repudiated the Times piece.

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751531686987501570

As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion

She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.

Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?

Is there an option to trade her away?

Who do we want to trade her for?

Isabel Oakeshott ‏@IsabelOakeshott 19m19 minutes ago
So disappointing that day ONE of contest between May/Leadsom descends into a row about motherhood. Leadsom waltzed into glaring trap

blackburn63 said:

If Leadsome is right and the Times have shafted her she will gain plenty of support, and other papers anti her will have to call the dogs off.

If she's even half right she will have gained plenty of ammunition.

IMO, Leadsom is doing herself more damage with her reaction than with the original comments themselves. Getting "so angry" and having a Twitter rant just over a newspaper article does not exactly seem like the type of person who's tough enough to go into a negotiating room with Putin.

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

I suspect she did say the things reported, but only after being led there by the reporter.

Reality check. This is one headline + Twitter storm. Let's not get sucked into the bubble.

Most members will be safely tucked up in bed by now.

You're all writing Andrea off tremendously quickly, just like Brexit....

Scott_P said:

@PaulBrandITV: Worth questioning what phrase 'as a mother' meant during #EUref too. Benign on surface, but does it imply non-mothers don't always get it?

No, not really, it's just lazy attempts to connect with the audience. Stuart and Leadsome were particularly robotic in parroting the line at Wembley, to the point Davidson had to mock the repetition (albeit by saying there were mothers on the Remain side too)

rcs1000 said:

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

I suspect she did say the things reported, but only after being led there by the reporter.

"Mrs Leadsom, how would you differentiate yourself from Mrs May? Why should members choose you?"

Yeah, I could see that.

I've just asked Shadsy to open up a market on were Mrs May to win, what job will she offer to the loathsome Leadsom.

I reckon the odds will be thus

1/100 - Northern Ireland Secretary

1/1000 - UK Ambassador to the Islamic State

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/AlanDuncanMP/status/751539430175956992

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#/media/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/AlanDuncanMP/status/751539430175956992

Why did he need to preface it with 'I'm gay'. Gay couples can have children now too, see Elton John and David Furnish

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/AlanDuncanMP/status/751539430175956992

Why did he need to preface it with 'I'm gay'. Gay couples can have children now too, see Elton John and David Furnish

It's like TSE saying "as a Muslim".

John_M said:

Reality check. This is one headline + Twitter storm. Let's not get sucked into the bubble.

Most members will be safely tucked up in bed by now.

There was something earlier about Con party members. Apparently the newspapers they read are:The Times, Telegraph, and the Daily Mail.

I think this controversy may lead tomorrows news.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/AlanDuncanMP/status/751539430175956992

Why did he need to preface it with 'I'm gay'. Gay couples can have children now too, see Elton John and David Furnish

It's like TSE saying "as a Muslim".

as a PB Tory, I object!

TheScreamingEagles said:

I've just asked Shadsy to open up a market on were Mrs May to win, what job will she offer to the loathsome Leadsom.

I reckon the odds will be thus

1/100 - Northern Ireland Secretary

1/1000 - UK Ambassador to the Islamic State

Governorship of Southern Thule not on offer?

TheScreamingEagles said:

I've just asked Shadsy to open up a market on were Mrs May to win, what job will she offer to the loathsome Leadsom.

I reckon the odds will be thus

1/100 - Northern Ireland Secretary

1/1000 - UK Ambassador to the Islamic State

Has she registered her media work for Mothercare in Members Register?

rcs1000 said:

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

I suspect she did say the things reported, but only after being led there by the reporter.

I agree. I hope we see a transcript.

HYUFD said:

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/751087083905753088

I see the paranoid string of Leavers are in full swing still - it doesn't matter who wanted Brexit before, we are getting Brexit now, and its about who can get the best deal. If that's Leadsome, fine, that's an opinion, but it's not a Remain vs Leave fight anymore.

I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.

The Times backed Remain. May will clearly win now, she was going to anyway even without this interview, take us into EFTA/EEA and probably do a free movement deal. Then the betrayal cries of the hardcore Leavers will arise and UKIP will aim to pick up where Leadsom left off

I wasn't merely speaking of the Times - remainstream media is clearly not referencing just the times and this story, and Leaver backing media and commentators have backed May too, therefore dismissing attacks on Leadsome as from the 'remainstream media' by implication encompasses those bits and people we know were for leave.

We've seen it endlessly since the referendum.

Some sections of the Leave press eg the Daily Telegraph are more pro Leadsom than others

Yes. There isn't a clear bloc. But talk of the 'remainstream media', like most use of 'mainstream media' is partisan, whingey bollocks. A rallying cry and that's it.

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/751087083905753088

I see the paranoid string of Leavers are in full swing still - it doesn't matter who wanted Brexit before, we are getting Brexit now, and its about who can get the best deal. If that's Leadsome, fine, that's an opinion, but it's not a Remain vs Leave fight anymore.

I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.

The Times backed Remain. May will clearly win now, she was going to anyway even without this interview, take us into EFTA/EEA and probably do a free movement deal. Then the betrayal cries of the hardcore Leavers will arise and UKIP will aim to pick up where Leadsom left off

I wasn't merely speaking of the Times - remainstream media is clearly not referencing just the times and this story, and Leaver backing media and commentators have backed May too, therefore dismissing attacks on Leadsome as from the 'remainstream media' by implication encompasses those bits and people we know were for leave.

We've seen it endlessly since the referendum.

Some sections of the Leave press eg the Daily Telegraph are more pro Leadsom than others

Yes. But talk of the 'remainstream media', like most use of 'mainstream media' is partisan, whingey bollocks. A rallying cry and that's it.

Leave Guido Alone!

RobD said:

John_M said:

Reality check. This is one headline + Twitter storm. Let's not get sucked into the bubble.

Most members will be safely tucked up in bed by now.

Some may read the papers tomorrow!

I'm going to amble down to the local CC tomorrow, it's on the way to the butchers. I shall consult and then report back from the Wise Women, assuming they're not all golfing.

Pulpstar said:

What the hell is up with the ((( ))) people are using on tw@tter btw ?

It was originally a way for anti-semites to "mark" targets. The "targets" adopted it as a symbol of pride, that sort of thing.

Scott_P said:

@PaulBrandITV: When the Woman of the Year 2015 is upset, you know your campaign's in trouble. https://t.co/ss0fpGI6O7

Blimey.... titters

Big_G_NorthWales said:

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

Not a chance - her comments will end her campaign - why did she even go there

Not willing to wait for the transcript? Speaks volumes...

Tykejohnno said:

Lucky no second referendum,leave leaders have destroyed themselves,except one.

Farage ;-)

This is the Leave campaign in action:

https://youtu.be/NUHk2RSMCS8

blackburn63 said:

The press tried to crucify Corbyn, stories about him sh***ing Abbot etc, we all know what happened there.

I think I was the only person who thought better of Corbyn and Abbott from that 'revelation' - I thought it rather nice that they've been such close friends and allies for decades after any more intimate involvement ended.

chestnut said:

The thing that people will remember is that Leadsom is a mum, and May is not.

It may well be politically incorrect and taboo to say this but most people never love like they love their own children. It's an extremely emotional pull. All parents know it.

For people with no compassion or heart for the person unable to have children. You're barking up the wrong tree here.

chestnut said:

The thing that people will remember is that Leadsom is a mum, and May is not.

It may well be politically incorrect and taboo to say this but most people never love like they love their own children. It's an extremely emotional pull. All parents know it.

That's not taboo, people say that all the time. I don't quite get why that would translate into more votes for either of them though. Fine, people never love like they love their own children. Do parents really think not knowing that love makes it harder to negotiate a trade deal or other government business?

Does Merkel have any children btw? No one questions her ability to do the job!

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

Whether she is or not she's either a fool for being suckered or a horrible human being. Neither suggests she should even be in the final two, let alone PM.

foxinsoxuk said:

Tykejohnno said:

Lucky no second referendum,leave leaders have destroyed themselves,except one.

Farage ;-)

This is the Leave campaign in action:

htps://youtu.be/NUHk2RSMCS8

With the rather crucial difference that they won before destroying themselves. They might not get the Leave they wanted, some of them, but they will get Leave.

This forum seems to have been very busy since the newspaper reviews. Think this will be a mega storm tomorrow on the broadcast media. She may not survive this weekend even

Isabel Oakeshott ‏@IsabelOakeshott 2m2 minutes ago
Journalists will now try to coax @andrealeadsom into talking about May's looks/weight/health. Guaranteed. I hope she sees the trap next time

That's if she's still in the campaign by Sunday.

midwinter said:

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

Whether she is or not she's either a fool for being suckered or a horrible human being. Neither suggests she should even be in the final two, let alone PM.

Glad you're able to keep an open mind. Well done You.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

This forum seems to have been very busy since the newspaper reviews. Think this will be a mega storm tomorrow on the broadcast media. She may not survive this weekend even

I wouldn't go that far.

midwinter said:

anotherDave said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

surbiton said:

Pauly said:

https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751535316788477952

I just bought shares in popcorn...

If this true, her support will go up 5 points. Plus Tebbit's support.

When you have to explain you have lost.

The Times will not have reported this without the evidence. They are professionals against an amateur who has just holed her campaign below the waterline.

This is going to lead tomorrows news. I expect Ms Leadsom to be vindicated.

Whether she is or not she's either a fool for being suckered or a horrible human being. Neither suggests she should even be in the final two, let alone PM.

Precisely. Although I blame the 84 MPs, rather than her.