I'm away and commenting on a mobile is a right pain, but I had to sign in to say how utterly disgusted I am by Andrea Leadsom. I'm ashamed to be in the same party as her, and I hope she fucks off to UKIP after getting thrashed by TM.
Can I commission you to write a PB thread header on those lines?
No chance. What this tells us is a) she said these things exactly as quoted b) she is unfit for high office (at least at this stage) because she has no idea how journalism works.
Imagine her unguarded quotes to the financial press during the negotiations with EU.
Is the Tory party having a laugh? have they seriously put this person forward to lead the country.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
No chance. What this tells us is a) she said these things exactly as quoted b) she is unfit for high office (at least at this stage) because she has no idea how journalism works.
Imagine her unguarded quotes to the financial press during the negotiations with EU.
Is the Tory party having a laugh? have they seriously put this person forward to lead the country.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
The Times had better not be guilty of any selective quoting. Otherwise it will be a huge publicity win for Leadsom - cementing her position as the candidate the establishment fears.
The complete opposite of what she said? What does that mean?
That she said it _wasn't_ sad for Theresa May that she couldn't have children? That she said that having children _didn't_ give her (Leadsom) a stake in the country's future?
Leaving t may entirely out of it, it is still appalling because the implication is that leadsom thinks that it she herself were childless she would be working on the principle that she personally wanted to get her kicks before the whole shithouse went up in flames. In other words she isn't capable of altruism benefiting anyone more remotely connected to her than direct descendants, AND is too thick to think that simulating the capability for such altruism might be quite a good idea.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
No chance. What this tells us is a) she said these things exactly as quoted b) she is unfit for high office (at least at this stage) because she has no idea how journalism works.
Imagine her unguarded quotes to the financial press during the negotiations with EU.
Is the Tory party having a laugh? have they seriously put this person forward to lead the country.
Shame on you.
Exact opposite = my children make me a less good PM?
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.
She maybe forced to by public revulsion
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
Just horrible comments unworthy of you
I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.
Of course my children and grand children are the most precious part of our lives but to try to score points over someone who has been unable to experience the joy of children through no fault of their own is unacceptable, crass, and unbecoming of anyone seeking the highest office in the land
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges 6m6 minutes ago If The Times can now demonstrate Ledsom's comments were accurately reported she's going to have to step down from the contest.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges 6m6 minutes ago If The Times can now demonstrate Ledsom's comments were accurately reported she's going to have to step down from the contest.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges 6m6 minutes ago If The Times can now demonstrate Ledsom's comments were accurately reported she's going to have to step down from the contest.
BTW, there's a brilliantly funny quote at the end of that Times front page:
One MP backing Mrs May said last night: "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservative activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people".
Leadsom could clearly have thought before she spoke but that quote by a May backer suggests the pro Remain Times may clearly have had an agenda too to spin the story in an anti Leadsom direction
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
The Times had better not be guilty of any selective quoting. Otherwise it will be a huge publicity win for Leadsom - cementing her position as the candidate the establishment fears.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges 6m6 minutes ago If The Times can now demonstrate Ledsom's comments were accurately reported she's going to have to step down from the contest.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
The complete opposite of what she said? What does that mean?
That she said it _wasn't_ sad for Theresa May that she couldn't have children? That she said that having children _didn't_ give her (Leadsom) a stake in the country's future?
Q. Is your family important to you? A. Yes, having children gives you a stake in the country's future. Q. Theresa May cannot have children. Does that mean she doesn't have a stake in the country's future? A. No, that must be very sad for her. But she has nieces and nephews lots of people, that connect her to the next generation. --------- Given the hoo-haa I think we'll see a transcript, or get an audio recording.
Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
Would be up to the party board.
Though precedent would suggest so. In 1990, there should have been a third round according to the rules but it was cancelled after Hurd and Heseltine withdrew.
I was doing some research on it this week, and that's what happened in 2003
I thought that in 2003, only Howard was nominated at all; Davis (and everyone else) stood back before the vote rather than part way through.
I should have mentioned that 1965 was also like 1990: Heath didn't win by enough to take the leadership on the first round but Maudling and Powell withdrew so no second round was held.
BTW, there's a brilliantly funny quote at the end of that Times front page:
One MP backing Mrs May said last night: "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservative activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people".
Leadsom could clearly have thought before she spoke but that quote by a May backer suggests the pro Remain Times may clearly have had an agenda too to spin the story in an anti Leadsom direction
I ignore most of the Times Brexit coverage, it's still in campaign mode. It's getting tedious.
The Times had better not be guilty of any selective quoting. Otherwise it will be a huge publicity win for Leadsom - cementing her position as the candidate the establishment fears.
She is establishment, even if the press is against her. It was on the same side as her not two weeks ago, if their opprobrium now means they are establishment then she was establishment then.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
I think two weeks of solid political news is getting to the audience, and to the reporters. We are all expecting some big news 24/7 and are exhausted from reading and debating it.
I think I am going to take the weekend off and smell some flowers etc....and drink some beer.
Well I'm going to be a bit controversial and say I feel sorry for Crabb.
It's just muck raking.
Oh come on, I'm a great believer in live and let live but if you're trying to present yourself as the Prime Minister you can't be messaging women in that manner, his judgement is awful. And as somebody wearing his Christianity as a badge of honour he's an absolute hypocrite.
His "error" is worse than Leadsom's imo, I'd like to hear her side of the story before she gets hung out to dry.
Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
Would be up to the party board.
Though precedent would suggest so. In 1990, there should have been a third round according to the rules but it was cancelled after Hurd and Heseltine withdrew.
A statement from the Conservative Board said: "The Board has received overwhelming representations from the Party at large, and, in line with these representations, has decided not to initiate a formal postal ratification ballot.
"There will be an informal consultation of party members over the weekend to give the voluntary party the opportunity to show, like the parliamentary party, that it is fully united behind the new Leader." I was doing some research on it this week, and that's what happened in 2003
I thought that in 2003, only Howard was nominated at all; Davis (and everyone else) stood back before the vote rather than part way through.
I should have mentioned that 1965 was also like 1990: Heath didn't win by enough to take the leadership on the first round but Maudling and Powell withdrew so no second round was held.
A statement from the Conservative Board said: "The Board has received overwhelming representations from the Party at large, and, in line with these representations, has decided not to initiate a formal postal ratification ballot.
"There will be an informal consultation of party members over the weekend to give the voluntary party the opportunity to show, like the parliamentary party, that it is fully united behind the new Leader."
I see the paranoid string of Leavers are in full swing still - it doesn't matter who wanted Brexit before, we are getting Brexit now, and its about who can get the best deal. If that's Leadsome, fine, that's an opinion, but it's not a Remain vs Leave fight anymore.
I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.
She maybe forced to by public revulsion
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
Just horrible comments unworthy of you
I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.
Of course my children and grand children are the most precious part of our lives but to try to score points over someone who has been unable to experience the joy of children through no fault of their own is unacceptable, crass, and unbecoming of anyone seeking the highest office in the land
Joy of children???
Clearly you've never had a child vomit into you face, mouth, eyes and nose when you're sleeping. I tell you, I didn't feel much joy opening my eyes and feeling them fill with a mixture stomach acid and semi-digested milk.
I'm away and commenting on a mobile is a right pain, but I had to sign in to say how utterly disgusted I am by Andrea Leadsom. I'm ashamed to be in the same party as her, and I hope she fucks off to UKIP after getting thrashed by TM.
Let's be honest though, either candidate could be caught live saying the other was a stupid bitch and some people would be claiming it just shows the other side is scared, and how the remestablisment/trolls is out to get them and how the man/the idiots want you not to vote for the new messiah.
I see the paranoid string of Leavers are in full swing still - it doesn't matter who wanted Brexit before, we are getting Brexit now, and its about who can get the best deal. If that's Leadsome, fine, that's an opinion, but it's not a Remain vs Leave fight anymore.
I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.
The Times backed Remain. May will clearly win now, she was going to anyway even without this interview, take us into EFTA/EEA and probably do a free movement deal. Then the betrayal cries of the hardcore Leavers will arise and UKIP will aim to pick up where Leadsom left off
Well I'm going to be a bit controversial and say I feel sorry for Crabb.
It's just muck raking.
Oh come on, I'm a great believer in live and let live but if you're trying to present yourself as the Prime Minister you can't be messaging women in that manner, his judgement is awful. And as somebody wearing his Christianity as a badge of honour he's an absolute hypocrite.
His "error" is worse than Leadsom's imo, I'd like to hear her side of the story before she gets hung out to dry.
I'm really not that bothered. He's no longer a candidate, he hasn't done more than stupid flirting. I take a dim view of the woman for leaking it. Trying to hurt his marriage for what purpose?
Yes, looking back I think Boris could have still gone for it. Gove's reputation has taken such a pounding that his critique of Boris could now be dismissed as the scurrilous barbs of a nasty schemer.
Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.
She maybe forced to by public revulsion
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
Just horrible comments unworthy of you
I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.
Of course my children and grand children are the most precious part of our lives but to try to score points over someone who has been unable to experience the joy of children through no fault of their own is unacceptable, crass, and unbecoming of anyone seeking the highest office in the land
Joy of children???
Clearly you've never had a child vomit into you face, mouth, eyes and nose when you're sleeping. I tell you, I didn't feel much joy opening my eyes and feeling them fill with a mixture stomach acid and semi-digested milk.
I loved my kids from ages 2.1 to 13.9 and from 17 years onwards. I'd have traded them for a small bag of glacier mints during the interregnums .
While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)
As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion
She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.
Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?
Theresa May insisting she is no "remainer" in the Telegraph o_O !?
I'm sorry but I'm reasonably sure she was on the remain side of the argument during the campaign, however quietly...
There are no people in this Tory contest who were advocating post referendum that we should Remain. The choice now is between what types of leave each candidate will seek to deliver, who has the best chance of delivering that vision, and also who would be better at the other aspects of government they will need to deal with. Could be May, could be Leadsome, but it's not an untruth to acknowledge Brexit is Brexit even if one was Remain before - even in the fevered dreams of some hoping for Brexit being overturned, whoever is Tory leader after Cameron could never attempt it.
Well I'm going to be a bit controversial and say I feel sorry for Crabb.
It's just muck raking.
Oh come on, I'm a great believer in live and let live but if you're trying to present yourself as the Prime Minister you can't be messaging women in that manner, his judgement is awful. And as somebody wearing his Christianity as a badge of honour he's an absolute hypocrite.
His "error" is worse than Leadsom's imo, I'd like to hear her side of the story before she gets hung out to dry.
I'm really not that bothered. He's no longer a candidate, he hasn't done more than stupid flirting. I take a dim view of the woman for leaking it. Trying to hurt his marriage for what purpose?
Fair point, who knows what happened but he must be a complete fool to put himself in that situation. I suspect the spare bedroom will be busy for a while.
As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion
She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.
Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?
Right - here's the real question - would Leadsom's attacks be valid if May had CHOSEN not to have children ?
For some traditionalist Tories certainly, for them the family is pivotal but I think a majority would not care, certainly in today's world and especially because May had such a busy and high powered career it would have been difficult to juggle a family too
Well I'm going to be a bit controversial and say I feel sorry for Crabb.
It's just muck raking.
Oh come on, I'm a great believer in live and let live but if you're trying to present yourself as the Prime Minister you can't be messaging women in that manner, his judgement is awful. And as somebody wearing his Christianity as a badge of honour he's an absolute hypocrite.
His "error" is worse than Leadsom's imo, I'd like to hear her side of the story before she gets hung out to dry.
Agreed 100%. She said some foolish things - in all likelihood - without realising how they'd be interpreted.
He... ummm... propositioned someone over WhatsApp weeks before running for the leadership.
As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion
She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.
Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?
Is there an option to trade her away?
Surely it's not far removed from the suspect who moves from "I didn't do it" to "You can't prove I did it"
As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion
She doesn't have a transcript herself, which Harry Cole finds odd, as all other leadership campaigns have a press officer sitting in on interviews, recording them for such a happenstance.
Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?
Is there an option to trade her away?
I'm quite happy to do a trade with UKIP, Leadsom for Carswell
As of now I don't believe her. But if she provides evidence to the contrary I will? If course, review my opinion
Well I think this little storm is likely to lead the news tomorrow, so we should have interview with Ms Leadsom, and the Times journo responsible. Hopefully a recording too.
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Imagine her unguarded quotes to the financial press during the negotiations with EU.
Is the Tory party having a laugh? have they seriously put this person forward to lead the country.
Shame on you.
https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/751533056075399168
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/fsr/2016/fsrjul16sum.pdf
That she said it _wasn't_ sad for Theresa May that she couldn't have children? That she said that having children _didn't_ give her (Leadsom) a stake in the country's future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs
If The Times can now demonstrate Ledsom's comments were accurately reported she's going to have to step down from the contest.
Oliver Bierhoff says he believes the former Tottenham and Germany striker is in talks to become the next England manager
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/next-england-manager-jurgen-klinsmann-in-talks-with-fa-replace-roy-hodgson-germany-oliver-bierhoff-a7127806.html
It's just muck raking.
Two months of this crap.
Dave, George, and Ken Clarke
A. Yes, having children gives you a stake in the country's future.
Q. Theresa May cannot have children. Does that mean she doesn't have a stake in the country's future?
A. No, that must be very sad for her. But she has nieces and nephews lots of people, that connect her to the next generation.
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Given the hoo-haa I think we'll see a transcript, or get an audio recording.
Two days in and it's already turned into a cat fight about children. The mistake was giving them the vote...
*bewildered*
Leadsom's comments are shameful
I should have mentioned that 1965 was also like 1990: Heath didn't win by enough to take the leadership on the first round but Maudling and Powell withdrew so no second round was held.
He wasn't expecting to win the referendum
That is all. Thank you.
I'm sorry but I'm reasonably sure she was on the remain side of the argument during the campaign, however quietly...
I think I am going to take the weekend off and smell some flowers etc....and drink some beer.
https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/751531686987501570
Does anyone know a way of checking if this is a recent change or precedes the contest?...
His "error" is worse than Leadsom's imo, I'd like to hear her side of the story before she gets hung out to dry.
"There will be an informal consultation of party members over the weekend to give the voluntary party the opportunity to show, like the parliamentary party, that it is fully united behind the new Leader."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3245561.stm
It's almost as if Remain won.
I presume Remainstream media also includes media which was, in fact, for Leave. Remarkable.
Clearly you've never had a child vomit into you face, mouth, eyes and nose when you're sleeping. I tell you, I didn't feel much joy opening my eyes and feeling them fill with a mixture stomach acid and semi-digested milk.
Leadsom’s Résumé Controversy Overblown, Her Former Supervisor Says
‘I would never, ever doubt her honesty,” Invesco executive says of PM candidate
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Suck it up, bitches!
I just bought shares in popcorn...
Andrea Leadsom truly is an amateur, and we want her to lead our Brexit negotiations?
BTW - no value in popcorn shares.. they've surely peaked???
He... ummm... propositioned someone over WhatsApp weeks before running for the leadership.
Classy.
'://www.wsj.com/articles/leadsoms-resume-controversy-overblown-her-former-supervisor-says-1468000457
Leadsom’s Résumé Controversy Overblown, Her Former Supervisor Says
‘I would never, ever doubt her honesty,” Invesco executive says of PM candidate '
Oh dear, not what the frothers wanted to hear,they will now try to trash the reputation of her supervisor.
Buy leadsom ;-)
Just let it end FFS.
I think betting odds as a forecast for election results are slightly less reliable than reading tealeaves at the bottom of your cup