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It's over, isn't it?0
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Grrrr grrr, just seen your first thread, you've given the same betting advice I was going to do a thread on Sundaydavid_herdson said:I would appreciate it if Andrea Leadsom not bugger up my thread for tomorrow by giving even more evidence as to why she should lose.
Oh, and the second piece has a pun that even TSE would be proud of.0 -
Been read out on Sky news with MP's already expressing angerHYUFD said:
Leadsom says May must be 'very sad' not to have children, I don't really see it as an explicit criticism, if a little stupid but more a focus on Leadsom's position as a mother.ToryJim said:
That is truly awful stuff. It's a sign of the sort of vindictiveness or spite that would make her unsuitable as a PM. I hope she gets absolutely buried in this ballot.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I'm also very sad you're a moron.HYUFD said:
She also said Theresa May must be 'very sad'TheScreamingEagles said:
Theresa May possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people but I have childrenHYUFD said:
That looks extrement selective quoting by the Times, where does Leadsom ever criticise May for not having children, she saidToryJim said:
That is truly awful stuff. It's a sign of the sort of vindictiveness or spite that would make her unsuitable as a PM. I hope she gets absolutely buried in this ballot.TheScreamingEagles said:
See where I'm going with this?0 -
Leadsom. WTF???0
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In other news, Trump's surely blown it this time...Richard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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It's a very small electorate. I imagine she's visiting at least one conservative association a day. So she can explain in person.JohnO said:
She'll be explaining, clarifying, contextualizing (sic) for the next week....and a fat lot of good it will do her.AndyJS said:Nobody could be as stupid as to say what Leadsom has apparently said. Doesn't make sense.
The members who are curious about her will also be able to find long interviews online if they want to. She should probably update her website to help with that.
http://www.andrealeadsom.com
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Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?0
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Leadsom available to lay at 4.8 on BF.0
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Well I thought the same about those nasty Leave posters/outright lies over Turkey/£350 million per week figures and we all know how that turned outRichard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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World + wife knows. And she acknowledges Theresa's childlessness in the interview.AndyJS said:
Her words have probably been twisted. But the art of politics is not to give the opposition ammunition.0 -
The Brexit vote has told us that we can never say over. We live in strange times.Richard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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Perhaps wait until a full transcript is released or allow Leadsom to comment on whether the Times story is completely accurate.Big_G_NorthWales said:Leadsom's horrible remarks now on Sky - saying it seems like the nasty party again
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Would be up to the party board.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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It is going to take her Leadsom down - she is the candidate for Prime Minister no lessPrinceofTaranto said:The Times used to be a proper newspaper.Just a nasty propaganda rag these days that will do anything to push its agenda. Wouldn't trust this story at all.
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Leadsom has won.
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I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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I don't think that applies to Ann Widdecombe or Tim Montgomerie somehow, neither of whom are much to look at. Crabb has a ruggedly handsome look I suppose and is relatively affable. Sad news as I met him once at a dinner and he was easy to talk to but politics is a high pressure environment which needs lots of energy and inevitably some will put those energies in other directions too. Anyway I don't think it should affect his Cabinet roleTheScreamingEagles said:Oh and Stephen Crabb has been a very naughty boy.
What is it about family values Christian Conservatives and their libidos?-1 -
Pure Trump tactics. Say something, anything, as long as it gets attention. Don't worry about who gets hurt or what the truth or reality is.
Dear God, how quickly this country has descended the depths.0 -
I agree it seems too obscene. The quotes seem to be there though, and why is talking about Theresa May's lack of children at all, whether or not she explicitly criticised her for it. It's from the Times, I can't see them fabricating quotes. She needs to issue a statement immediately and clarify the remarks.AndyJS said:Nobody could be as stupid as to say what Leadsom has apparently said. Doesn't make sense.
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TSE, of all the people on here you are by far the saltiest. Did you mis-bet and lose a wodge?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I thought the same about those nasty Leave posters/outright lies over Turkey/£350 million per week figures and we all know how that turned outRichard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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I thought that was public knowledge, and even if it wasn't, Leadsom's crassness is astonishing.AndyJS said:0 -
@shashj: "Theresa May has six years of counter-terrorism experience, whereas I have ovaries"0
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He did. Jean-Marie Loret.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Adolf Hitler didn't have any.TheScreamingEagles said:@mikeysmith: Mussolini had six children. Just for the record.
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She directly compares herself as having children with May as having none (That May "probably has nieces and nephews" but she, Leadsom, has children and thus a stake in the future) and follows it up by saying that May must be "very sad" about it.AndyJS said:
She knew. She certainly knew and used it.0 -
Awful comments if they are indeed what she said.
I know there was an article recently about May opening up about not being able to have children and the heartbreak it has caused her and her husband but Leadsom shouldn't have been using that subject for political gain.
Again if it's true then it's disgusting.0 -
Thought: if Leadsom wins, Dominic Cummings gets to be Malcolm Tucker.
So much bants.0 -
Operation Save Dave failed.grabcocque said:
TSE, of all the people on here you are by far the saltiest. Did you mis-bet and lose a wodge?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I thought the same about those nasty Leave posters/outright lies over Turkey/£350 million per week figures and we all know how that turned outRichard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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Nope June 23rd/24th was profitable and I've backed Mrs Leadsom at great odds, ditto Mrs May, but I want the loathsome Leadsom to lose, and be humiliated at such a level she thinks she's Mark Oaten's rent boy.grabcocque said:
TSE, of all the people on here you are by far the saltiest. Did you mis-bet and lose a wodge?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I thought the same about those nasty Leave posters/outright lies over Turkey/£350 million per week figures and we all know how that turned outRichard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
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She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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Quite - regardless of the ethics, self preservation would say dont touch the subject with a bargepole if you have any political nousAndyJS said:Nobody could be as stupid as to say what Leadsom has apparently said. Doesn't make sense.
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It's not quite like Trump. She's used one fact (Mrs May has no children) and made some colossal leap of logic that her own children in some way advantage her for the role of Prime Minister. Trump is stupid and wrong. This is just stupid.rottenborough said:Pure Trump tactics. Say something, anything, as long as it gets attention. Don't worry about who gets hurt or what the truth or reality is.
Dear God, how quickly this country has descended the depths.0 -
I guess Andrea can forget that CoE invitation from Theresa then?
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Stupid comment from Leadsom.
I have to say, though, bringing up children has made me a much wiser, less selfish and more sensible person. And now that I have children, I couldn't imagine having much purpose to my life without them.
But then, I was a bit of a reckless idiot pre-kids.
That's not to suggest May isn't fit for PM. Not at all. Just a note on how dramatic an impact fatherhood had on me.0 -
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What the F*** has blunkets policy on immigration got to do with it?williamglenn said:
She didn't use the 'give me an edge' language, and in the case of Blunkett, remember this?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Oh yes it would. Its the equivalent of in the last two for prime minister and saying, 'having eyes that can see gives me the edge over Blunkett'Pong said:
It wouldn't have been any less nasty even if it was a choice.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Thats just nasty - May was unable to have childrenJohn_M said:
Classy lady.Scott_P said:@suttonnick: Saturday's Times:
Being a mother gives me edge on May — Leadsom
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers https://t.co/w0ZW0b1jow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3265219.stm0 -
GIN1138 said:
I guess Andrea can forget that CoE invitation from Theresa then?
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The press are not being subtle. I would expect people to assume it's a hatchet job.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
That said, I may have to buy the blessed paper myself now just to be certain!
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@TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles said:
Nope June 23rd/24th was profitable and I've backed Mrs Leadsom at great odds, ditto Mrs May, but I want the loathsome Leadsom to lose, and be humiliated at such a level she thinks she's Mark Oaten's rent boy.grabcocque said:
TSE, of all the people on here you are by far the saltiest. Did you mis-bet and lose a wodge?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I thought the same about those nasty Leave posters/outright lies over Turkey/£350 million per week figures and we all know how that turned outRichard_Nabavi said:It's over, isn't it?
We thank you so much for canvassing so hard in Sheffield and convincing the good people of your fair city to vote LEAVE!
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If I knew that she has no excuse.AndyJS said:0 -
I very much doubt it.No one reads the Times any more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is going to take her Leadsom down - she is the candidate for Prime Minister no lessPrinceofTaranto said:The Times used to be a proper newspaper.Just a nasty propaganda rag these days that will do anything to push its agenda. Wouldn't trust this story at all.
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Though precedent would suggest so. In 1990, there should have been a third round according to the rules but it was cancelled after Hurd and Heseltine withdrew.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would be up to the party board.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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It's already on Sky and doing the rounds on social media.PrinceofTaranto said:
I very much doubt it.No one reads the Times any more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is going to take her Leadsom down - she is the candidate for Prime Minister no lessPrinceofTaranto said:The Times used to be a proper newspaper.Just a nasty propaganda rag these days that will do anything to push its agenda. Wouldn't trust this story at all.
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Surprise surprise, Arron Banks is defending Andrea Leadsom's comments0
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There are direct quotes in there. The comments look awful.anotherDave said:
The press are not being subtle. I would expect people to assume it's a hatchet job.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
That said, I may have to buy the blessed paper myself now just to be certain!0 -
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
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Well on that basis, we should just make Jordan PM. Why have one massive tit in No 10 when you could have two?TheScreamingEagles said:@shashj: "Theresa May has six years of counter-terrorism experience, whereas I have ovaries"
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I was obliquely making the point that while saying that having working eyesight gives you an edge may be crass, it's nevertheless true. Would he have been so insouciant about overcrowding and mass immigration if he wasn't blind?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
What the F*** has blunkets policy on immigration got to do with it?williamglenn said:
She didn't use the 'give me an edge' language, and in the case of Blunkett, remember this?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Oh yes it would. Its the equivalent of in the last two for prime minister and saying, 'having eyes that can see gives me the edge over Blunkett'Pong said:
It wouldn't have been any less nasty even if it was a choice.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Thats just nasty - May was unable to have childrenJohn_M said:
Classy lady.Scott_P said:@suttonnick: Saturday's Times:
Being a mother gives me edge on May — Leadsom
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers https://t.co/w0ZW0b1jow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3265219.stm0 -
What bit is there doubt about? The Times would be bankrupt on the law suite if they made up these kinds of quotes.Andy_Cooke said:
She directly compares herself as having children with May as having none (That May "probably has nieces and nephews" but she, Leadsom, has children and thus a stake in the future) and follows it up by saying that May must be "very sad" about it.AndyJS said:
She knew. She certainly knew and used it.0 -
Has this stupid, lying, conniving creature any redeeming qualities at all?0
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I was doing some research on it this week, and that's what happened in 2003david_herdson said:
Though precedent would suggest so. In 1990, there should have been a third round according to the rules but it was cancelled after Hurd and Heseltine withdrew.TheScreamingEagles said:
Would be up to the party board.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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She may have been deliberately calculating and assumed that, by doing it early, any revulsion about her bringing up the subject and attacking like this could subside and intend to have it hung around May's neck. She's probably hoping that her target electorate will agree with her in the privacy of the ballot casting.
I dearly hope she has underestimated the Conservative members as a whole.0 -
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Not at all, most people feel sympathy for May because she is unable to have children. This is a massive error.chestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.0 -
Sadly I doubt this will make very much difference. Andrea Leadsom was a Leaver and that is the main thing.0
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How did Crabby segue from "cheating politicians are stupid" to "i want your body" ?0
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People watch the broadcast media - I do not understand how anyone can attempt to justify her commentsPrinceofTaranto said:
I very much doubt it.No one reads the Times any more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is going to take her Leadsom down - she is the candidate for Prime Minister no lessPrinceofTaranto said:The Times used to be a proper newspaper.Just a nasty propaganda rag these days that will do anything to push its agenda. Wouldn't trust this story at all.
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Probably been using my subtle chat up linesFreggles said:How did Crabby segue from "cheating politicians are stupid" to "i want your body" ?
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Please tell us you are trolling.chestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.0 -
Guy, and gals, don't over-analyse. She's an idiot.0
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It's quite the sideways move.Freggles said:How did Crabby segue from "cheating politicians are stupid" to "i want your body" ?
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Obviously I'm totally unbiased, but Leadsom should have known better than to say that.0
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Obviously. The question is: does it matter?Richard_Nabavi said:Guy, and gals, don't over-analyse. She's an idiot.
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Ive got several children. Im one of the lucky ones that could. All the more reason I am utterly dusgusted by these comments.chestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.0 -
I wonder how many Tory members follow twitterMaxPB said:
It's already on Sky and doing the rounds on social media.PrinceofTaranto said:
I very much doubt it.No one reads the Times any more.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is going to take her Leadsom down - she is the candidate for Prime Minister no lessPrinceofTaranto said:The Times used to be a proper newspaper.Just a nasty propaganda rag these days that will do anything to push its agenda. Wouldn't trust this story at all.
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I don't believe that. I think this is just selective editing.Andy_Cooke said:She may have been deliberately calculating and assumed that, by doing it early, any revulsion about her bringing up the subject and attacking like this could subside and intend to have it hung around May's neck. She's probably hoping that her target electorate will agree with her in the privacy of the ballot casting.
I dearly hope she has underestimated the Conservative members as a whole.0 -
Just horrible comments unworthy of youchestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.0 -
Torie's nice to each other ;-)GIN1138 said:I guess Andrea can forget that CoE invitation from Theresa then?
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If she didn't her prep team should have.Andy_Cooke said:
She directly compares herself as having children with May as having none (That May "probably has nieces and nephews" but she, Leadsom, has children and thus a stake in the future) and follows it up by saying that May must be "very sad" about it.AndyJS said:
She knew. She certainly knew and used it.
Every interview is passed by ten people these days, none of them thought "hmmm, I wonder why she has no children?" for even a second?!
Bearing in mind they are in the same party, all their colleagues working with them are in the same party and have known each other for many, many years and it has been in the press before.0 -
Chris said:
Has this stupid, lying, conniving creature any redeeming qualities at all?
84 Tory MPs think she should be PM of Great Britain in the midst of its worst peace time crisis in a hundred years. 84? Yeh gods.0 -
Yes, but the more outrageous you get the more those who crave a bit of naughtiness lap it up. I can't see this harming Leadsom at all. She's marketing herself as an iconoclast, a maverick and a speaker of truths to power. And, anyway, her more queasy supporters can just notch it up as a dirty-tricks operation on behalf of a panicking establishment.rottenborough said:Pure Trump tactics. Say something, anything, as long as it gets attention. Don't worry about who gets hurt or what the truth or reality is.
Dear God, how quickly this country has descended the depths.0 -
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Yes.AlastairMeeks said:
Obviously. The question is: does it matter?Richard_Nabavi said:Guy, and gals, don't over-analyse. She's an idiot.
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Im really not going to dignify that with a response.williamglenn said:
I was obliquely making the point that while saying that having working eyesight gives you an edge may be crass, it's nevertheless true. Would he have been so insouciant about overcrowding and mass immigration if he wasn't blind?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
What the F*** has blunkets policy on immigration got to do with it?williamglenn said:
She didn't use the 'give me an edge' language, and in the case of Blunkett, remember this?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Oh yes it would. Its the equivalent of in the last two for prime minister and saying, 'having eyes that can see gives me the edge over Blunkett'Pong said:
It wouldn't have been any less nasty even if it was a choice.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Thats just nasty - May was unable to have childrenJohn_M said:
Classy lady.Scott_P said:@suttonnick: Saturday's Times:
Being a mother gives me edge on May — Leadsom
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers https://t.co/w0ZW0b1jow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3265219.stm0 -
Looking at the candidates for leadership what lovely people we have at the head of the tory party. The labour candidates were dreadful, at least they had some kind of morals, this lot are filth.0
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Agreed.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Ive got several children. Im one of the lucky ones that could. All the more reason I am utterly dusgusted by these comments.chestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
A very very stupid and offensive thing to say.0 -
...and that includes Boris, who claims to be well educated.0
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That's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it?anotherDave said:
I don't believe that. I think this is just selective editing.Andy_Cooke said:She may have been deliberately calculating and assumed that, by doing it early, any revulsion about her bringing up the subject and attacking like this could subside and intend to have it hung around May's neck. She's probably hoping that her target electorate will agree with her in the privacy of the ballot casting.
I dearly hope she has underestimated the Conservative members as a whole.
"I was selectively edited"
"You were quoted out of context"
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He had the grace to give up rather than try to pull the others back down into the basket with him, unlike BorisAlastairMeeks said:
It's quite the sideways move.Freggles said:How did Crabby segue from "cheating politicians are stupid" to "i want your body" ?
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Yes, they will feel sympathy. I'm not sure that counts for much in a race to win.MaxPB said:
Not at all, most people feel sympathy for May because she is unable to have children. This is a massive error.chestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
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Apparently not. Luckily, this idiocy should backfire massively.Chris said:Has this stupid, lying, conniving creature any redeeming qualities at all?
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The 'very sad line' clearly shows she knows May couldn't have children and the heartbreak it has caused her.Andy_Cooke said:
She directly compares herself as having children with May as having none (That May "probably has nieces and nephews" but she, Leadsom, has children and thus a stake in the future) and follows it up by saying that May must be "very sad" about it.AndyJS said:
She knew. She certainly knew and used it.
IIRC Leadsom did talk about her children and her grandchildren's future during the referendum so talking about her own children and their future is fair enough. But to bring May's personal situation into it really is in incredibly poor taste.0 -
Crass doesn't begin to cover it. How did she think this couldn't come across as "Hey, at least MY ovaries work...." What thinking process gets her to say that out loud?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Quite - regardless of the ethics, self preservation would say dont touch the subject with a bargepole if you have any political nousAndyJS said:Nobody could be as stupid as to say what Leadsom has apparently said. Doesn't make sense.
We've got eight weeks of this?0 -
I remember alot on here being horrified by the immigration poster with Farage.
But, well, he won.
Could go either way with the party members, might put off a few spinster aunts (I'm not planning on having any kids myself before ye all judge !) - but could appeal to grandmothers/fathers even if they don't admit it as @Chestnut points out.
A quite disgusting tactic - but not necessarily an error.0 -
She also said she did not want to get into a contest with May on who was a mother or notrottenborough said:
What bit is there doubt about? The Times would be bankrupt on the law suite if they made up these kinds of quotes.Andy_Cooke said:
She directly compares herself as having children with May as having none (That May "probably has nieces and nephews" but she, Leadsom, has children and thus a stake in the future) and follows it up by saying that May must be "very sad" about it.AndyJS said:
She knew. She certainly knew and used it.0 -
What's May done now?blackburn63 said:Looking at the candidates for leadership what lovely people we have at the head of the tory party. The labour candidates were dreadful, at least they had some kind of morals, this lot are filth.
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Well then lets see the whole transcript. I've not seen any sign of malice in her TV interviews.MaxPB said:
There are direct quotes in there. The comments look awful.anotherDave said:
The press are not being subtle. I would expect people to assume it's a hatchet job.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
That said, I may have to buy the blessed paper myself now just to be certain!
Last nights scoop photo of her campaign strategy didn't say anything about 'attack Ms May for not having children.'
I really think this is just a newspaper with an agenda. I hope Ms Leadsom keeps tapes of interviews she gives.0 -
To the law courts!John_M said:0 -
The words of Mandy Rice Davis spring to mind.John_M said:0 -
I would hope most sensible people would want to wait until the full facts emerge.John_M said:
This modern trend of trial by social media is quite alarming.0 -
BTW, there's a brilliantly funny quote at the end of that Times front page:
One MP backing Mrs May said last night: "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservative activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people".
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May certainly has morals and I seem to remember the last Labour Deputy PM had an affair with his secretary as did the first New Labour Foreign Secretaryblackburn63 said:Looking at the candidates for leadership what lovely people we have at the head of the tory party. The labour candidates were dreadful, at least they had some kind of morals, this lot are filth.
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But what about baby-eating PB Tories?Richard_Nabavi said:BTW, there's a brilliantly funny quote at the end of that Times front page:
One MP backing Mrs May said last night: "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservative activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people".
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I'm away and commenting on a mobile is a right pain, but I had to sign in to say how utterly disgusted I am by Andrea Leadsom. I'm ashamed to be in the same party as her, and I hope she fucks off to UKIP after getting thrashed by TM.0
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Looks like she'll win by being last one standing, the rest are busy blowing their own heads off. Every time I think we've gone as low as we can something even more loathsome occurs, we're governed by lowlives.RobD said:
What's May done now?blackburn63 said:Looking at the candidates for leadership what lovely people we have at the head of the tory party. The labour candidates were dreadful, at least they had some kind of morals, this lot are filth.
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I am not sure what I would think of someone who didn't think their children were the most precious thing alive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just horrible comments unworthy of youchestnut said:
She will win. I thought May would, but not now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She maybe forced to by public revulsionanotherDave said:
I'd be amazed if she withdrew. It's a lot easier to just ignore the newspapers and the telly.JohnO said:Albeit still unlikely, if Leadsom were to now withdraw , presumably May would be elected leader unopposed?
She is hitting that spot that people with children know. There is no comparable love. Not parents, not siblings, not spouses.
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While I don't want to go over old ground again, there are two types of countries in Europe: those that sorted out their banking systems, and those that didn't.MaxPB said:I wouldn't be so sure about Deutsche.
Take Spain: it forced 48 regional savings banks - the Caixa - to close, the banks to recognise EUR400bn of bad debts, to raise more than EUR120bn of new equity and created a bad bank to hold toxic assets. Result: Spain's banking sector is one of the best capitalised in Europe, despite having had one of the worst pre-crisis economies.
Take Italy: it didn't have much debt compared to its neighbours so it thought it didn't need to sort things out. (And it would have been politically unpopular to inquire too much into the actions of the Populare, the equivalent of Spain's Caixa.) Result: the banks are unable to lend, dragging the domestic economy down. Only now, almost a decade after the crisis started have they realised their error.
Fortunately, the sums in Italy are quite small (Italians don't owe very much compared to...er... Brits for example). They just need the banks to raise a bit of equity and the government to create the obligatory bad bank. The issue is that doing what everyone else did in the past now breaches EU state aid rules. (Whoops.) So, the Italian government will likely have to stick two fingers up at the commission and do it anyway.
Which brings us to Deutsche Bank. It's fair to say that the Eurozone's only investment bank is also by far the most troubled bank in the whole block. No-one knows how big the issue is because they have literally trillions of market to model derivatives. (Of course real exposure will be less, but it could still be a number with a great many zeroes.)0 -
Andrea Leadsom would have a better chance with the "out of context" approach if it wasn't for her reaction to this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/05/andrea-leadsom-row-over-overrun-with-foreigners-tweet0
