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Mr. Jim, cheers.
We do live in interesting times. Maybe I should write a history.0 -
I thought you were planning on being a billionaire by then and hence would find the need to upgrade?rcs1000 said:
If you're going to live in your house for the next 30 years (as I suspect both you and I will do), then then the vagaries of the property market are irrelevent.Charles said:
As a rule I don't divest strategic assets, so I will likely remain structurally long the London property market (both in the "super prime residential" and the "unique venue" segments)not_on_fire said:
Your experience in that may well soon prove invaluable here!Charles said:
In was in the 1.90s when I bought my house in California (at 40% off the asking price - that's what a bear market in property looks like)not_on_fire said:
It was more than $2 to the £ for the whole of 2006-07 period while I was living in California as a student. Happy days.Pulpstar said:
$2.10rcs1000 said:
In theory, a weaker Sterling makes our exports cheaper, and makes imports more expensive. Therefore helping with our imbalances.FrankBooth said:Hasn't the Bank Of England wanted a weaker Sterling for some time? Might a weaker pound help with regard to the global imbalances? Though not if it strengthens the dollar of course.
Unfortunately, demand for a lot of the things we import (such as oil, and natural gas) is very price inelastic. If Sterling halved, then our energy import bill would almost double.
Our exports are largely price inelastic too. Hence the fact that Sterling has fallen from $2.10 in 2007 to $1.30, and our exports have only increased 20% or so in that time.
How was the dollar ever that weak ?
However, what we're likely to end up with is quite an illiquid market, with very few transactions from non-forced sellers.0 -
We all lose if Fox is the Prime Minister.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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Yes, they will. However, I can't help thinking that tending to the needs of foreign people whilst being paid in a considerably devalued currency is not one of their lifetime's ambitions. I was hoping for something better for the British than teaching them how to say "please can I carry your bag, sir?" in Mandarin.chestnut said:Hospitality, entertainment and shopping venues will do very well.
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BBC still saying half an hour or so.0
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A revelation that such an obscure non entity can be plucked from the talentless MP's voidMonikerDiCanio said:
I'd guess Leadsom would be your biggest winner. A revelation to me.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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I think we have been here before, Mr. Charles, and my position has not changed. There are more important considerations in deciding national infrastructure than what time you have to get up in the morning.Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
Besides in your recent house move you could have chosen to move to South London Rather than North London. You could even have chosen to move to the formerly wonderful county of Sussex - not that I could recommend it, mind, but we could do with some more people with your level of clout about the place.0 -
Prime Minister Fox. Sounds familiar.rcs1000 said:
We all lose if Fox is the Prime Minister.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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No, no, no, please don'tMaxPB said:
What, no love for the black hole of dreams that is Atlanta?Charles said:
My favorite US airport is Santa Ana, although I do quite like MCI (Kansas City) as well (although the salads in the airport restaurant are gruesome)rcs1000 said:
Denver is - indeed - bloody awful.Charles said:
Denver is the worst plane change I've come across recently. Nearly missed a connecting flight because they require changing passengers to go through the same security as everyone coming in from the outside.SirBenjamin said:rcs1000 said:
Singapore and Hong Kong are, as you say, excellent.
Being given a tiny boiled sweet by passport control does not make an airport excellent.
I don't think I've ever had a more stressful travel experience than trying to change planes at Singapore. A connecting flight with the same carrier required a walk of OVER A MILE and two airside passes through security.
With only a 45 minute turnaround.
Immediately after the initial 15 hour flight to Singapore.
And then there's the stupid metro system out of Changi airport which requires you to change trains after about two stops - basically everybody and their luggage unless they're going to an airport hotel at the intermediate stop, or the conference centre thingy.
Awful. Absolutely awful. At least in the big US airports you can usually get some half-decent beer these days.
But it does tell us some interesting things about the New World Order: https://www.buzzfeed.com/rickysans/the-mysterious-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-the-denver-ai?utm_term=.kgeZ9bXm4#.wrKVx174M
O'Hare is tedious, JFK shabby, LAX appalling designed, Newark a mess. SFO is ok, I suppose - and Logan not too bad.
I haven't flown international from there since the early 1990s...but I had to change through there on my way to Charlotte last year and it still brings me out in a cold sweat0 -
Worked for Ed!tyson said:
A revelation that such an obscure non entity can be plucked from the talentless MP's voidMonikerDiCanio said:
I'd guess Leadsom would be your biggest winner. A revelation to me.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
Oh wait!0 -
Tut.rottenborough said:BBC still saying half an hour or so.
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Sky reporting that the PMs PPS came in at the last minute to cast a proxy vote.0
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I love her.tyson said:
A revelation that such an obscure non entity can be plucked from the talentless MP's voidMonikerDiCanio said:
I'd guess Leadsom would be your biggest winner. A revelation to me.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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Faisal Islam @faisalislam 50s51 seconds ago
Jon Craig reports that the PM's PPS Gavin Williamson has just cast a proxy vote at the end on behalf of the PM
So not 100% well before 6pm. Do they start counting before close of ballot?0 -
If Herstmonceux was up for sale I might consider it...HurstLlama said:
I think we have been here before, Mr. Charles, and my position has not changed. There are more important considerations in deciding national infrastructure than what time you have to get up in the morning.Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
Besides in your recent house move you could have chosen to move to South London Rather than North London. You could even have chosen to move to the formerly wonderful county of Sussex - not that I could recommend it, mind, but we could do with some more people with your level of clout about the place.
(And some might consider my grumpiness in the early morning a risk to national security)0 -
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I suspect his response to Chilcot will be masterful. Cameron is always great at these things.Sandpit said:
As PM Cameron really has frustrated the hell out of me. At times he can be an exceptional statesman but at other times he has really demeaned the office he holds.
He could have been one of the all-time great British Prime Ministers, IMO.0 -
Heathrow wins on everything except noise. The airport needs to serve not just London but the southern half of the UK. It should therefore be located to the north or north west of London, thus eliminating Gatwick and, categorically, Boris Island. It could be in Luton but the hilly terrain isn't suitable. Heathrow has the connections and infrastructure in place. Expansion requires relatively little disruption compared with alternative airports - although the people affected would see it differently of course.Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
The one real problem is that the landing flight path goes right over London and disturbs their sleep. This suggests a deal to me. Runways don't make noise; airplanes do. So, Heathrow, you get your extra runway but in return you are going to have to take measurable steps to reduce overall noise. They can do that by tightening up on aircraft types that are allowed to land at Heathrow; adjusting glideslopes; rescheduling early and late aircraft movements and so on. With that deal in place, the Government can go to residents and say, you can keep the noise as it is or you can get less noise in exchange for another runway. Which do you want?0 -
Sky reporting the expected result is exactly what is predicted by the Betfair graph above. Fox to go out and Leadsom a clear second.0
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Steven Swinford @Steven_Swinford
Announcement on first round of Tory leadership vote is imminent...
10:01 AM - 5 Jul 2016
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I think the Americans have discovered a way to stop the passage of time, speed up ageing and destroy productivity all in one space.Charles said:
No, no, no, please don'tMaxPB said:
What, no love for the black hole of dreams that is Atlanta?Charles said:
My favorite US airport is Santa Ana, although I do quite like MCI (Kansas City) as well (although the salads in the airport restaurant are gruesome)rcs1000 said:
Denver is - indeed - bloody awful.Charles said:
Denver is the worst plane change I've come across recently. Nearly missed a connecting flight because they require changing passengers to go through the same security as everyone coming in from the outside.SirBenjamin said:rcs1000 said:
Singapore and Hong Kong are, as you say, excellent.
Being given a tiny boiled sweet by passport control does not make an airport excellent.
I don't think I've ever had a more stressful travel experience than trying to change planes at Singapore. A connecting flight with the same carrier required a walk of OVER A MILE and two airside passes through security.
With only a 45 minute turnaround.
Immediately after the initial 15 hour flight to Singapore.
And then there's the stupid metro system out of Changi airport which requires you to change trains after about two stops - basically everybody and their luggage unless they're going to an airport hotel at the intermediate stop, or the conference centre thingy.
Awful. Absolutely awful. At least in the big US airports you can usually get some half-decent beer these days.
But it does tell us some interesting things about the New World Order: https://www.buzzfeed.com/rickysans/the-mysterious-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-the-denver-ai?utm_term=.kgeZ9bXm4#.wrKVx174M
O'Hare is tedious, JFK shabby, LAX appalling designed, Newark a mess. SFO is ok, I suppose - and Logan not too bad.
I haven't flown international from there since the early 1990s...but I had to change through there on my way to Charlotte last year and it still brings me out in a cold sweat0 -
If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
ie Could Boris still have made the Final 2?0 -
Gatwick faces massive problems that mean its a non starter.Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
Its in the wrong place with dreadful transport links and no way of improving those links without magically changing the road network and rail infrastructure.
The area its in has beyond full employment already, so where's the work force going to come from?
There's also nowhere for all the new employees to live and no space to build anymore houses.
Its a GIP/Stewart Wingate pipe dream with mega bonuses coming their way if it succeeds.
If both LGW and LHR get approval, LGW doesn't happen, as all the potential investors know that all the airlines will stay or go to LHR and LGW will end up with a Manchester Airport like white elephant second runway.0 -
Is the woman who won the referendum, with the help of the Sun, at Balmoral yet?GIN1138 said:
Friday?Morris_Dancer said:If there's a coronation, how long until Cameron toddles off?
Just wondering where the pearl-wearing May will kiss hands.0 -
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I suspect so.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
ie Could Boris still have made the Final 2?0 -
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Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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Off Thread.
Naz Shah reinstated in Labour.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/750375028865269761
Labour have finally lost the Jewish vote. In history most Jews were labour supporters; no longer.0 -
Mr. Gin, indeed.
Cameron may benefit by comparison with Blair, but we'll see how his successor performs.0 -
The Bund thing?PlatoSaid said:
What do you think of the oh la la claim I posted at 17.16?rcs1000 said:
I must do that; and Haneda also avoids the appalling hour and a bit bus or taxi ride.MaxPB said:
Get the BA flight to Haneda if you can.rcs1000 said:
Tokyo??? Narita is a 'mare.AndyJS said:Airports in the Far East are the best by a long shot. Tokyo, Singapore, Seoul, Shanghai, Hong Kong. And the people who work there aren't in a foul mood, unlike most other places.
Seoul is nice, but a long way away from the City.
Singapore and Hong Kong are, as you say, excellent.
From a technical perspective, it's an issue because the ECB buys bonds according to the size of the economy, rather than the pile of outstanding debt. Furthermore, they have certain restrictions about the maturities of the bonds they issue.
Now, there are ways around this: one you could reweight the 'pool' so that QE was by size of bond market, rather than by side of GDP (which would be good for Italy and Greece). But it's also possible for the German government to do things to help to, so when bonds reach maturity, that - instead of issuing 30 year debt - they issue 8 to 10 year debt to make it eligible to the ECB.
The ECB is also stepping into the corporate bond and covered bond markets, which takes some of the stress off the government bond market.
I suspect we'll see a classic Euro-fudge: the Germans will oblige the ECB by issuing some shorter term debt, there'll be a new 75% GDP, 25% bond market equation, and the foray into the world of corporate bonds will take up any slack.0 -
Suspect we will have to wait for the memoir.SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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While we await the smoke signals (or whatever) from Westminster, in Australia, the vote inches toward its non-conclusion.
According to ABC, with 80% counted, the Coalition has 70, the Labor Party 67 and Others 5. That leaves 8 still to be called and while Turnbull thinks he will get his majority, the ABC election guru doesn't agree and is predicting 73 for the Coalition, 72 for Labor and 5 for the Others which will be very well Hung (guffaw!).
The Green will likely ally with Labour and the other four are one from the Nick Xenophon Team and three local Independents (one of whom I think is slightly closer to Labor than the Liberals). Given some outlying areas won't finish the count before Friday, it may take some time.
I think Shorten has a chance of cobbling something together but he needs at least 72 ALP seats - less than that and Turnbull will probably have enough to stay on.0 -
MI5 showed Boris their file on him?SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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Read a report that he lost 45ish MPs the day Gove announced.SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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Oh yes; not a chance of him being in his job come next year. Merkel and Rajoy want him gone, and he doesn't have many friends left.john_zims said:@John_M
'Another kick in the balls for Juncker. This is the best sport ever.
http://www.dw.com/en/eu-commission-ceta-should-be-approved-by-national-parliaments/a-19379263'
He'll be dumped by the end of the year.0 -
You fly commercial???Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.0 -
Odd. I doubt Gove will get a 1/4 of that number.PlatoSaid said:
Read a report that he lost 45ish MPs the day Gove announced.SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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I think the timing will be around when we get our new PM.rcs1000 said:
Oh yes; not a chance of him being in his job come next year. Merkel and Rajoy want him gone, and he doesn't have many friends left.john_zims said:@John_M
'Another kick in the balls for Juncker. This is the best sport ever.
http://www.dw.com/en/eu-commission-ceta-should-be-approved-by-national-parliaments/a-19379263'
He'll be dumped by the end of the year.0 -
Assuming Boris had still done a deal with Leadsom it's surely a no-brainer that he would have made the Top 2.
Does seem odd that he pulled out - unless he just panicked and of course he had to decide within a couple of hours.0 -
Mr. Borough, if Gove doesn't, he might be out in round one.0
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Only Volumes 1 to 8Sandpit said:
MI5 showed Boris their file on him?SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
ie Could Boris still have made the Final 2?
Couldn't fit the rest of them in the lift.0 -
Fine by me. Rat.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, if Gove doesn't, he might be out in round one.
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Mr. Borough, me too (backed that at 21).0
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Faisal Islam @faisalislam 2m2 minutes ago
"PM didn't vote" - I should clarify - his PPS late visit to the polling booth was NOT a proxy vote for @David_Cameron0 -
Agree re O'Hare, JFK, LAX, Newark and SFO! Not been to the other two yet.Charles said:
My favorite US airport is Santa Ana, although I do quite like MCI (Kansas City) as well (although the salads in the airport restaurant are gruesome)rcs1000 said:
Denver is - indeed - bloody awful.Charles said:
Denver is the worst plane change I've come across recently. Nearly missed a connecting flight because they require changing passengers to go through the same security as everyone coming in from the outside.SirBenjamin said:rcs1000 said:
Singapore and Hong Kong are, as you say, excellent.
Being given a tiny boiled sweet by passport control does not make an airport excellent.
I don't think I've ever had a more stressful travel experience than trying to change planes at Singapore. A connecting flight with the same carrier required a walk of OVER A MILE and two airside passes through security.
With only a 45 minute turnaround.
Immediately after the initial 15 hour flight to Singapore.
And then there's the stupid metro system out of Changi airport which requires you to change trains after about two stops - basically everybody and their luggage unless they're going to an airport hotel at the intermediate stop, or the conference centre thingy.
Awful. Absolutely awful. At least in the big US airports you can usually get some half-decent beer these days.
But it does tell us some interesting things about the New World Order: https://www.buzzfeed.com/rickysans/the-mysterious-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-the-denver-ai?utm_term=.kgeZ9bXm4#.wrKVx174M
O'Hare is tedious, JFK shabby, LAX appalling designed, Newark a mess. SFO is ok, I suppose - and Logan not too bad.0 -
He also lost heart, and thought to himself WTF, do I need all of this? The answer was clearly no.PlatoSaid said:
Read a report that he lost 45ish MPs the day Gove announced.SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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iSam made a joke about this months ago that still makes me chuckle - he said @Charles had a solid mahogany helicopter with gold plated taps.rcs1000 said:
You fly commercial???Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
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If it's Gatwick I just don't go. Prefer to go to City or Heathrow and fly via somewhere else.Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
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Is there a market for which newspaper is going to splash a leaked copy of Chilcot's report on tomorrow's front page?0
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I'm cheap.rcs1000 said:
You fly commercial???Charles said:
It's a bugger to get to. I had a flight at 7am yesterday from Gatwick & had to leave home at 5am - at Heathrow I could have got another 30 minutes kip!HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.0 -
My theory:SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
ie Could Boris still have made the Final 2?
Boris never wanted to be PM implementing Brexit. He is a PM for "the good times" so he wants someone else to do all the unpopular Brexit stuff first.
So he and Gove staged this whole "bust up". They hope the inexperienced Leadsom will beat May with the members. They think she will be weak and that leave's Boris and Gove effectively running the government as DPM and Chancellor respectively, behind the scenes.
Around late 2019, after Brexit is secured and things are improving rapidly, they will knife Leadsom and Boris will become leader for 2020.0 -
That's true. Good point.Charles said:
I thought you were planning on being a billionaire by then and hence would find the need to upgrade?rcs1000 said:
If you're going to live in your house for the next 30 years (as I suspect both you and I will do), then then the vagaries of the property market are irrelevent.Charles said:
As a rule I don't divest strategic assets, so I will likely remain structurally long the London property market (both in the "super prime residential" and the "unique venue" segments)not_on_fire said:
Your experience in that may well soon prove invaluable here!Charles said:
In was in the 1.90s when I bought my house in California (at 40% off the asking price - that's what a bear market in property looks like)not_on_fire said:
It was more than $2 to the £ for the whole of 2006-07 period while I was living in California as a student. Happy days.Pulpstar said:
$2.10rcs1000 said:
In theory, a weaker Sterling makes our exports cheaper, and makes imports more expensive. Therefore helping with our imbalances.FrankBooth said:Hasn't the Bank Of England wanted a weaker Sterling for some time? Might a weaker pound help with regard to the global imbalances? Though not if it strengthens the dollar of course.
Unfortunately, demand for a lot of the things we import (such as oil, and natural gas) is very price inelastic. If Sterling halved, then our energy import bill would almost double.
Our exports are largely price inelastic too. Hence the fact that Sterling has fallen from $2.10 in 2007 to $1.30, and our exports have only increased 20% or so in that time. How was the dollar ever that weak ?
However, what we're likely to end up with is quite an illiquid market, with very few transactions from non-forced sellers.0 -
@MikeK.
Naz Shah reinstated in Labour.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/750375028865269761
Labour have finally lost the Jewish vote. In history most Jews were labour supporters; no longer.'
That didn't take long, what a vile party.
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In 2008 the price of property dropped 20% in a year. The Brown government (via Jack Straw ISTR) passed guidelines that made it damn nearly impossible to evict somebody in a court, and prices increased by about 5% in 2009 and stabilised. The market from 2009 to about 2012 was then in the stagnation phase you describe, with few buyers and sellers and low volumes. Cameron (spit) then introduced Help To Buy and its variants, and prices sped upwards again, further encouraged by Osborne's stupidity in preannouncing BTL changes in October 2015. So we currently have a toppy market.rcs1000 said:However, what we're likely to end up with is quite an illiquid market, with very few transactions from non-forced sellers.
There is anecdotage about post-Brexit uncertainty causing buyers to pull out, even a few days before completion. The latest RICS survey prior to Brexit was predicting a fall, so that will only be exacerbated. Whether this is temporary or longer-term is unknown.
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Cameron may regret not sleeping on it. And doubtless half the Cabinet is looking at the ballot paper and wishing they'd stood themselves. As Jeremy Corbyn could have told them, you have to be in it to win it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
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Two BBC employees were handed over to the police after being caught sneaking around Leave.EU's headquarters looking for Matthew Elliot.
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I read that too, however they certainly don’t appear to have swung Gove’s way. - MI5 showing their dossier on him is beginning to look more plausible.PlatoSaid said:
Read a report that he lost 45ish MPs the day Gove announced.SimonStClare said:
Does anyone know the real reason Boris withdrew – Gove’s comment didn’t seem to justify it.MikeL said:If Gove has collapsed, does anyone think Boris regrets pulling out?
ie Could Boris still have made the Final 2?
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As could Blair ,,, if only .......GIN1138 said:
I suspect his response to Chilcot will be masterful. Cameron is always great at these things.Sandpit said:
As PM Cameron really has frustrated the hell out of me. At times he can be an exceptional statesman but at other times he has really demeaned the office he holds.
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Don't exaggerate. Think of all the puns TSE could make on Liam as he Fox up this or that decision.rcs1000 said:
We all lose if Fox is the Prime Minister.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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Mr. Pit, quite right there is no exit from the M23 after the M25 interchange and before Gatwick, and to be honest it would be difficult to think up an economically viable case why there should be so. Oh, and the distance is nine miles and not 10.Sandpit said:
Is it still the case that there's no exit from the M23 between the M25 and the airport, around ten miles? Missed a flight once after an accident closed the M23 and there was no way of getting round it. Serious infrastructure needed at LGW anyway, another runway would only make the issues worse.HurstLlama said:
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.RationalPlan said:Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
Heathrow is the most expensive plan that requires very high landing charges to fund it (hint BA does not want to pay, why do you think they bought Aer Lingus?). Plus the money quoted does not include any money towards any transport improvements (estimated to well over £10 billion) required.
In contrast Gatwick is much cheaper and easier to build and will fund all transport requirements needed.
Apart from all that, the rumours is that Heathrow will never be able to borrow the money itself on the markets anymore.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
They should really build both LHR and LGW runways, if they want an outside-the-box idea then an airside Hyperloop linking the two airports would allow fast transfers between them.
Building a hyperloop between Gatwick and Heathrow would be spiffing - the present bus transfer fails most hours of every day because the M25 from the M3 (often the A3) around to the Heathrow Junctions is usually down to stop-start crawl in both directions, making sensible journey planning impossible. Back in the day there was a helicopter service which worked tremendously well (and wasn't that expensive), but the eco-loons killed that off.
That said who would invest in a high-speed, non-stop train service between Gatwick and Heathrow? It would be humongously expensive to build and be subject to more planning objections from Surrey residents than you could shake a stick at. The length of time to get T5 planning permission would pale into insignificance by comparison.0 -
Why would Matthew be at Leave.EU's HQ given that he was CEO of Vote Leave?MP_SE said:Two BBC employees were handed over to the police after being caught sneaking around Leave.EU's headquarters looking for Matthew Elliot.
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The picture of Clarke at first glance suggests that he's just had a very good lunch, but then he always looks that way.0
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This rules Leadsom and Gove out immediately. They feature in very few lyrics. They should use this rule for future contests. "Sorry Mr Davies, your name doesn't scan".ydoethur said:
Don't exaggerate. Think of all the puns TSE could make on Liam as he Fox up this or that decision.rcs1000 said:
We all lose if Fox is the Prime Minister.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
It would be a bit rubbish for the rest of us though, I grant you.0 -
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Faisal Islam - lots of tactical voting.0
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Why did they announce they were bringing forward the result, only to then delay by half an hour? Grr.0
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The warning signs were there for Blair from the start. The arrogance. The dodgy financial dealings. The wife.David_Evershed said:
As could Blair ,,, if only .......GIN1138 said:
I suspect his response to Chilcot will be masterful. Cameron is always great at these things.Sandpit said:
As PM Cameron really has frustrated the hell out of me. At times he can be an exceptional statesman but at other times he has really demeaned the office he holds.
He could have been one of the all-time great British Prime Ministers, IMO.
Seriously I don't think Blair could ever have been an all time great. He is too flawed.
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Steady on.MonikerDiCanio said:
I love her.tyson said:
A revelation that such an obscure non entity can be plucked from the talentless MP's voidMonikerDiCanio said:
I'd guess Leadsom would be your biggest winner. A revelation to me.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
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I can provide the Reader's Digest version.RobD said:
"No one is to blame. Lessons will be learned. Parliament must provide more oversight in future. Here is my invoice. Prompt payment would be appreciated".0 -
Mrs Sandpit just commented, having never seen him before, that Clarke looked like a serious alcoholic.peter_from_putney said:The picture of Clarke at first glance suggests that he's just had a very good lunch, but then he always looks that way.
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stjohn said:
Prime Minister Fox. Sounds familiar.rcs1000 said:
We all lose if Fox is the Prime Minister.MikeSmithson said:My only losing CON leadership outcome is Fox. I win on all the other 4.
He has a ready made TV Channel with Fox News.
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HurstLlama said:
Building a hyperloop
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get a move on, the cricket starts in a minute!!!0
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The next one of these should be done on a fixed cost basis. If it's going to be pointless then at the very least it should be quick too.John_M said:"No one is to blame. Lessons will be learned. Parliament must provide more oversight in future. Here is my invoice. Prompt payment would be appreciated".
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I've got a meeting in a minute too! ArghScrapheap_as_was said:get a move on, the cricket starts in a minute!!!
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Mr. Wasd, be fair. Chilcott was making a packet. I'd be a slow writer if I got a six figure sum every year I dallied.0
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For Leadsom to decide to continue in the contest, assuming all the lesser players fall away, she surely needs to be within around 80 votes of May in the first ballot.
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Is Chilcott counting the votes?
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Ha. Brilliant. Post of the day!Morris_Dancer said:Is Chilcott counting the votes?
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First Round Result :
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