If there's a coronation, how long until Cameron toddles off?
About 17 hours
Cameron will have to do the governments response to Chilcot tomorrow, so it'll be Thursday or Friday I'd have thought.
This could be the speech of his career tomorrow, eclipsing even the excellent statesman's response to the Bloody Sunday inquiry.
I suspect his response to Chilcot will be masterful. Cameron is always great at these things.
As PM Cameron really has frustrated the hell out of me. At times he can be an exceptional statesman but at other times he has really demeaned the office he holds.
He could have been one of the all-time great British Prime Ministers, IMO.
As could Blair ,,, if only .......
The warning signs were there for Blair from the start. The arrogance. The dodgy financial dealings. The wife.
Seriously I don't think Blair could ever have been an all time great. He is too flawed.
Cameron really could have been. Imagine if he'd LED us out of the EU after they laughed his negotiation out of Brussels...
Agreed. But his essay crisis EU negotiation and his misreading totally of the amount of latent Leave desire out there did for him. Very Shakespeare: from cock of the walk in January to feather duster in June!
The raspberry he got when the results of his negotiating was announced in Feb should've been a huge warning ( could've read up on here!), but the dice were probably cast by then anyway.
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Gove could end up in the final two then if he gets enough of Fox and Crabb's votes to overhaul Leadsom. May would probably then trounce him but he is not out of it yet
Gove could end up in the final two then if he gets enough of Fox and Crabb's votes to overhaul Leadsom. May would probably then trounce him but he is not out of it yet
If Theresa were to be declared the outright winner tonight/tomorrow, would Cameron leave Downing Street within hours? How quickly would the John Lewis removal vans arrive? God it just doesn't seem real somehow.
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Why would Matthew be at Leave.EU's HQ given that he was CEO of Vote Leave?
I did wonder that. A wasted trip as Leave.EU is based in Bristol while Vote Leave is based in London. A basic search on Google was all it would have taken to ascertain this.
If Theresa were to be declared the outright winner tonight/tomorrow, would Cameron leave Downing Street within hours? How quickly would the John Lewis removal vans arrive? God it just doesn't seem real somehow.
One can only hope. We're still waiting for Hills to pay out on Dave to go in 2016.
If Theresa were to be declared the outright winner tonight/tomorrow, would Cameron leave Downing Street within hours? How quickly would the John Lewis removal vans arrive? God it just doesn't seem real somehow.
Dave:
"We're leaving Downing Street for the last time after six wonderful years, and we're very happy that we leave the United Kingdom in a very much more divided, polarised state than when we came here six years ago."
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Gove could end up in the final two then if he gets enough of Fox and Crabb's votes to overhaul Leadsom. May would probably then trounce him but he is not out of it yet
Well If I've heard Heathrow might not be such a good idea these days.
If anyone has any sense it's Gatwick.
I agree that Gatwick is the better option. However, living near it and traveling past it, by road and rail, on a regular basis, I strongly question the associated infrastructure costs that will fall on the taxpayer. I think the plans are grossly optimistic as would anyone who cared to pop down to the train station or try and drive up the M23 at the airport's peak times. Peak times incidentally which, in the morning, coincide with the commuter crush on the London-South Coast railways.
Is it still the case that there's no exit from the M23 between the M25 and the airport, around ten miles? Missed a flight once after an accident closed the M23 and there was no way of getting round it. Serious infrastructure needed at LGW anyway, another runway would only make the issues worse.
They should really build both LHR and LGW runways, if they want an outside-the-box idea then an airside Hyperloop linking the two airports would allow fast transfers between them.
Mr. Pit, quite right there is no exit from the M23 after the M25 interchange and before Gatwick, and to be honest it would be difficult to think up an economically viable case why there should be so. Oh, and the distance is nine miles and not 10.
Building a hyperloop between Gatwick and Heathrow would be spiffing - the present bus transfer fails most hours of every day because the M25 from the M3 (often the A3) around to the Heathrow Junctions is usually down to stop-start crawl in both directions, making sensible journey planning impossible. Back in the day there was a helicopter service which worked tremendously well (and wasn't that expensive), but the eco-loons killed that off.
That said who would invest in a high-speed, non-stop train service between Gatwick and Heathrow? It would be humongously expensive to build and be subject to more planning objections from Surrey residents than you could shake a stick at. The length of time to get T5 planning permission would pale into insignificance by comparison.
I'd put a link between the M23 and A23 half way along the nine miles, if only to allow traffic to keep moving slowly when there's a big accident on the motorway. I used to live on the M3 corridor, and I'll guess that during my time in the sandpit the traffic on the M25 between the M40 and M23 hasn't got any better!
Hyperloop is of course wishful thinking, for a large number of reasons, but we used to do stuff like that in the UK and should be supporting and developing new technology.
If Theresa were to be declared the outright winner tonight/tomorrow, would Cameron leave Downing Street within hours? How quickly would the John Lewis removal vans arrive? God it just doesn't seem real somehow.
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Hasn't the Bank Of England wanted a weaker Sterling for some time? Might a weaker pound help with regard to the global imbalances? Though not if it strengthens the dollar of course.
Afternoon, Mr. B. Traditionally some industries have called for a lower pound and lower interest rates so that they can export more. In my experience when they have been granted those conditions they have just pocket the difference in sterling earnings, paid them out to directors and shareholder sand carried on with the same volumes and markets.
Mr. Howl was on here earlier joyful at the new sterling rates as an exporter. I wounder how much effort he will be making to take true advantage of the situation. How many extra salesmen/sales teams does he intend to send overseas to open up new markets for his business or expand his penetration into existing markets. No disrespect to Mr Howl I merely ask.
Perhaps the same sort of question could be asked by parliamentary select committees of big companies like Rolls Royce and maybe of the Department of BIS, what extra support are they giving to companies to either start exporting or do more of it.
As a both the owner of an export company and a remain voter I see the drop in the pound as the silver lining to compensate for my disappointment. I spent 10 year doing international sales of medical equipment in Asia, USA, Middle East and Europe. Anyone who thinks you can turn on and off exports like a tap has never traded internationally. It takes years to set up distributors, get approvals, get on tenders and win tenders. Low cost does not on its own win business.
The reality is that the only way to get Brexit to work is to shift the nation's resources to business and specifically business with international tradeable goods. Korea is a prime example as is Japan. This is already happening by default as the market begins to believe Brexit will occur. Thus you will see FTSE companies share price go up and sterling go down.
Who are the winners and losers from this. The winners are businessmen engaged in exports or anyone who provides a service that is traded internationally. The losers are anyone who is providing a local service or gets their income mostly from the government.
Many people who voted Brexit did so on the view that they were happy to take a cut in income to have a less diverse country. Others saw that they were going to be a winner from an insular export dominated country. There are others who did not quite understand what the implications would be.
Danny Blanchflower has just predicted a house price crash but won't state what the hit will be.We are clearly headed for negative inflation,deflation Japan-style.Interest rates will have to go to zero and even minus.
"But for travelers like Wen Zhihong, from China's western Chengdu, that means lower prices. She had been planning to spend her vacation traveling with her daughter in France and Italy, but said she changed her mind after the vote.
"Now it seems a better idea to travel to England," Wen, a university official, said. "With the depreciation of the pound, hotels, plane tickets and shopping are all much cheaper."
Ctrip.com, China's biggest online travel agency, has already sought to capitalize on the surge in interest, arguing this week that a summer vacation in Britain could now be a third cheaper, helping UK searches on its app triple.
The company put out flyers with a dancing, winking figure in a Union Jack t-shirt, under the slogan, in Chinese, "Brexit: travel on the drop", in reference to the weaker pound. In the background, a weeping figure in a European Union flag waves "bye".
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The raspberry he got when the results of his negotiating was announced in Feb should've been a huge warning ( could've read up on here!), but the dice were probably cast by then anyway.
Leadsom 66
Gove 48
Crabb 34
Fox 16 (Eliminated)
And boo!
How many of those votes are tactical, and how many from people who want the specific chap or lady to win?
May is way to low for a coronation though....
May's already got a majority of the Parliamentary Party
Theresa May looking pretty well unstoppable on these numbers. Surely they won't go for a muppet like Leadsom ahead of someone who's already over 50%? Not to mention the ghastly example of Corbyn being held in front of them?
Quite a few MPs sat on their hands.
BTW Your avatar is "intriguing"
But assuming all (or almost all) Crabb would go to May then they have easily enough votes to push Gove above Leadsom.
My cup overfloweth.
Leave campaigners received 130 votes
Whether they feel insecure enough to do it rather than have May beat Leadsom in a fair fight will be interesting.
NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
That'll be 16 more votes for Leadsom.
"We're leaving Downing Street for the last time after six wonderful years, and we're very happy that we leave the United Kingdom in a very much more divided, polarised state than when we came here six years ago."
Hyperloop is of course wishful thinking, for a large number of reasons, but we used to do stuff like that in the UK and should be supporting and developing new technology.
Leadsom actually makes Corbyn seem quite electorally appealing.