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  • dyedwoolie
    dyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Hmmmmmmmmm how divided are we as a nation now?
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838

    Worth noting among all the focus on the North East that Clackmannanshire was bang in line with par

    Bit under, now? 16% gap vs 18?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    No i mean it is the bellwether.
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    glw said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    The world is clearly ending - sound of pneumatic drilling outside my window now. And here was me worrying my TV would bother the neighbours...

    Someone digging a bomb shelter?

    Absolutely. http://www.for-sale.co.uk/anderson-shelter :lol:
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722

    Pulpstar said:

    Seriously who the F*ck was buying sterling today ??

    All the wide boys with their secret polling showing upto 10% Remain lead.
    A prize for the biggest fund/organisation to blow up tomorrow?
    The punishment beatings will be on a bigger scale than anything even Osborne could dream up.
  • surbiton
    surbiton Posts: 13,549
    rcs1000 said:

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    It's the big question isn't it: 60:40 for Remain in London, Scotland, NI...

    makes it very, very close

    Robert, 60:40 with a 60% turnout may lose it for Remain. The same with a 70% turnout would win it for them.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    Pulpstar said:

    Seriously who the F*ck was buying sterling today ??

    I bought 10k's worth of Euros yesterday, just in case.
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    MP_SE said:

    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    The Leave campaign was really terrible.
    As a Leaver I will admit that the Leave campaign was not great. And Farage's poster with the migrants... deary me. If Leave lose nationally by a percent or so, well..
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Wanderer said:

    surbiton said:

    Mortimer said:
    He is putting his reputation on the line after Newcastle and Sunderland. However, we have to consider these are from the same part of the country. No equivalent results from anywhere else.
    Yes, though Clackwhatever wasn't great for Remain either.
    Still points to at least 60:40 for Scotland. Most Remain friendly bits still to come, and both results so far have beaten that.

    Good news on low Scottish turnout, mind.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    glw said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    The world is clearly ending - sound of pneumatic drilling outside my window now. And here was me worrying my TV would bother the neighbours...

    Someone digging a bomb shelter?

    Lol!
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    God, I love election nights on PB.
  • dyedwoolie
    dyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Cam thanks supporters
    GAME OVER :'-)
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    The North West is big too. Not going to be close in the North West.
    For who ?
  • YBarddCwsc
    YBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited June 2016

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    What this shows is how out of touch Labour have become with their own voters on the ground. 40% Labour leave looks likely.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Wanderer said:

    Worth noting among all the focus on the North East that Clackmannanshire was bang in line with par

    Bit under, now? 16% gap vs 18?
    Yes on Hanretty's figures though of course they have a confidence interval. London will have to be the cavalry for Remain.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.

    Well got to live up to stereotype...
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    Paging MarqueeMark - feelings on middle Devonians?
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.

    Good ol' Scotland.
  • MyBurningEars
    MyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    NI21 were EPIC. Beat anything else hands down I reckon. The longest suicide note, the Edstone, Burnham's leadership bid have got nothing on the NI21 self-combustion.

    Burnham's Manc mayoral bid may yet usurp them.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Wobble bottoms
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    Broxbourne she said, IIRC.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    edited June 2016

    MP_SE said:

    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    The Leave campaign was really terrible.
    As a Leaver I will admit that the Leave campaign was not great. And Farage's poster with the migrants... deary me. If Leave lose nationally by a percent or so, well..
    On the other hand you could say it was a great campaign because it got so close to getting over the line when Cam & Co a few months back were assuming a walkover.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    VERN!
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    She was talking about BroxBOURNE.
  • MontyHall
    MontyHall Posts: 226
    edited June 2016
    What price is Boris next PM?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited June 2016
    I work for an exporter. Virtually no EU exports.

    Guessing that is quite good !
  • glw
    glw Posts: 10,463

    Hmmmmmmmmm how divided are we as a nation now?

    Ever seen the Grand Canyon?
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    edited June 2016
    Never mind
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    RobD said:

    Is SeanT busy selling his flat? :D

    I'll offer him 100 trillion dollars.

    Zimbabwean dollars.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Angela Eagle sounding even more miserable than usual!!
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Angela eagle oozes charisma doesnt she
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310

    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

    I cling to the same hope, plus a disbelief that all the national polls could be so wrong, once again. But you have to say that the snippets of rumour coming in from the likes of Broxtowe and Crawley don't sound particularly encouraging. The markets tomorrow are going to be a bloodbath if it continues like this
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    Angela Eagle looks shellshocked
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    OUT said:

    What was the Clacks prediction on those spreadsheets?

    Take your pick of Remain at 56, 58 or 61
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited June 2016

    God, I love election nights on PB.

    I think GE2010 was the best. Some really good banter. Last year, I think people were all in too much shock, just pointing for hours at the tv....mouths open going WHHHHATTTTTT....
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8
  • alex.
    alex. Posts: 4,658

    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

    The problem for Remain is that the high middle class vote will have been picked up in the polls. What they will have weighted down was the WWC votes through their turnout models.

  • RealBritain
    RealBritain Posts: 255
    Next to declare - is who ?
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822

    Ave_it said:

    All the southern LAB areas will be REMAIN so it's still REMAIN!

    What Southern Lab areas?
    London?
    Yeah, but London bears little resemblance to Sunderland.

    Whilst it's certainly looking very good for Leave, we don't yet have a wide spread of different types of area, so some caution is advisable before waking up the butler to ask for the whisky and revolver..
  • DanSmith
    DanSmith Posts: 1,215

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    I must have missed that. Would be big news, but was only supposed to be a 4-5 point remain anyway.
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    It is my experience that University staff are likely to have not bothered turning out to vote. Far too comfortable. This referendum has brought out those who do not have that comfortable lifestyle.
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    edited June 2016
    Mortimer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    Broxbourne she said, IIRC.
    PB commenters kept making that mistake last year too...
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
    I thought it would be a bit more remain than that, hopefully Scotland not turned out too much!

    Angela Eagle sounding increasingly bitter!
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Big Picture: Four out of Four declarations have been better for LEAVE, by margins between 2.6% and 16.5%
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    OUT said:

    Never mind

    In line with the result.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Pulpstar said:

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    The North West is big too. Not going to be close in the North West.
    For who ?
    Leave. If the North West was 50/50 then the UK would be a Remain landslide.
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    How do we think Dave's night is going? Imodium on stand-bye? :smiley:
  • YellowSubmarine
    YellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    All the Remain politicians now have awful body language. Complete flip from 2hrs ago.
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    Crikey, Angela Eagle can barely string a sentence together. This is someone in the Shadow Cabinet.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Eagle running the same old lines with party politics which dont work.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    Anybody any idea who's next? Some of us have work in the morning.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Angela - BOTH campaigns were an utter shambles.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
  • HurstLlama
    HurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    Farage losing his rag with Burley.

    Really, I mean really, who gives a shit? Farage has done his job. He got the referendum that he wanted he has played his part, as best as he could, in the campaign, which is now over.

    Farage is now as relevant to the UK political scene as Lord Salisbury.

  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    hunchman said:

    Angela Eagle sounding even more miserable than usual!!

    She really is a miserable sod. Her constant whining is very tiresome.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    GIN1138 said:

    How do we think Dave's night is going? Imodium on stand-bye? :smiley:

    Currently smoking more than John Wayne ever did....
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited June 2016
    OUT said:

    Clackers

    60.6 Remain.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727

    Crikey, Angela Eagle can barely string a sentence together. This is someone in the Shadow Cabinet.

    She is getting excuses in already. She comes across as being absolutely devastated
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    AndyJS said:
    Massive if so.

    This Angela Eagle rant should be played over and over!!
  • brokenwheel
    brokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited June 2016
    AndyJS said:
    They have no clue what is going to happen, which is why they were sounding so up themselves just a few hours ago.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Angela Eagles - Glad I have her laid for next leader !
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Vernon Bogdanor looking very crestfallen!
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    rcs1000 said:

    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
    They'll vote for a monkey, so doubtless they'll vote for Leave en masse

  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    Scott_P said:

    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8

    It would bounce back though. No need for scaremongering now the campaign's over. Government needs wise heads to steady the ship.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:
    Massive if so.

    This Angela Eagle rant should be played over and over!!
    If thats the case, labour lost the referendum.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    Well someone is still buying £ because 40% of the fall has been recovered in the past few minutes
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Angela looks upset...
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722

    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.

    Sorry you what....what have cuts got to do with the EU? We aren't Greece....
  • Lowlander
    Lowlander Posts: 941
    rcs1000 said:

    OUT said:

    What was the Clacks prediction on those spreadsheets?

    Take your pick of Remain at 56, 58 or 61
    Surely the low turnout in Clacks pushes down its benefit to Remain?
  • LucyJones
    LucyJones Posts: 651
    AndyJS said:
    Did Eurosceptic Corbyn win it for Leave in the end?

  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Scott_P said:

    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8

    Why push the attack lines now? Vote is over.

    Up to all of us to make this work now.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    hunchman said:

    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
    I thought it would be a bit more remain than that, hopefully Scotland not turned out too much!

    Angela Eagle sounding increasingly bitter!
    It'll be interesting to see Western Isles and Borders.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
    They'll vote for a monkey, so doubtless they'll vote for Leave en masse

    They hung a monkey !
  • brokenwheel
    brokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Pulpstar said:

    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!

    Probably because we still have had only a handful of possibly unrepresentative results.
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488

    Ave_it said:

    All the southern LAB areas will be REMAIN so it's still REMAIN!

    What Southern Lab areas?
    London?
    Yeah, but London bears little resemblance to Sunderland.

    Whilst it's certainly looking very good for Leave, we don't yet have a wide spread of different types of area, so some caution is advisable before waking up the butler to ask for the whisky and revolver..
    This is true.

    But but but it's the Labour Leave here that could be crucial. If so:

    It's the Sun Wot Won It

    :-)
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited June 2016
    IanB2 said:

    Well someone is still buying £ because 40% of the fall has been recovered in the past few minutes

    Better than expected early signs for Remain elsewhere?
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BKAshcroft: It looks to me that Leave has won it: rocky times ahead for the Scottish and rest of UK economies. Mark my words.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    BBC at North Warwickshire: Leave vote much stronger than expected. 70/30 Leave.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    I think Leave have done this.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    BBC lady from North Warwickshire saying leave vote much stronger than expected. 70:30 leave WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    BBC reporters close to tears.

    I'm ROFLing my way across the floor..
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739
    Cameron's legacy ;D
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    North warwickshire looking good for leave!!!
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    North Warwickshire - Leave vote much stronger than expected.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 78

    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.

    My God Labour are in a sorry state.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    This has feelings of shock and disbelief that mirror May 2015. If there was an accurate Exit Poll then you kind of get the feeling now that Exit Poll would have shown a shock Leave Win at 10pm with everyone now saying "I'll eat my hat" etc
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Pulpstar said:

    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!

    Now sub 3.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    Warwickshire - guessing 70/30 in favour of leave.

    If that comes even near, we are leaving. No question. We're out.
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,250
    Just discovered that a friend is having her baby tomorrow (by Cesarean) earlier than expected.

    One of the first Brexit babies?
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453

    Why push the attack lines now? .

    It's not an attack line. It was never an attack line
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    Wow. North Warwickshire rumoured on the BBC 70-30 Leave. Expected 60-40.
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Wow. BBC employees are going into meltdown.
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