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In this shorter than usual version of the show, Keiran Pedley spends 15 minutes breaking down the eve of referendum polls and giving his thoughts on the campaign, what to expect on the day and what happens next.

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  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,530
    First.
  • Marco1Marco1 Posts: 34
    Good Luck Leavers
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,662
    edited June 2016
    The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,730
    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/745787573952458752
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    RobD said:

    The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.

    I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited June 2016
    OK maybe this is just me clutching straws, but I think there is a significant shy leaver syndrome in the phone polls. Over the past week Outers have basically been told that they are all psychopathic racists. Would you do a phone poll in this atmosphere? Hmmm. I don't think so. Mori will show a swing to remain. Yougov is just moe. I think online is closer to reality. We shall see. I predict 50.5- 49.5 to Leave.
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    An interesting listen. Thank you.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,530
    MikeSmithson said:

    RobD said:

    The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.

    I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
    Mike, it now wouldn't be a big polling day on PB.com without this picture.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Morning all.

    Bucketing it down outside at the mo, hope the weather clears up a tad for a good turnout.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,730
    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.

    Good luck Leavers!!!

    Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Most ukip areas to be bucketed. Not that it will make a difference, some ukippers will walk over glass to vote.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    nunu said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Most ukip areas to be bucketed. Not that it will make a difference, some ukippers will walk over glass to vote.
    Does that make them -ahem - a real pane? ;)
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,530
    Tim_B said:

    I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.

    Good luck Leavers!!!

    Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'

    But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Tim_B said:

    nunu said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Most ukip areas to be bucketed. Not that it will make a difference, some ukippers will walk over glass to vote.
    Does that make them -ahem - a real pane? ;)
    d'oh!
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    fitalass said:

    Tim_B said:

    I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.

    Good luck Leavers!!!

    Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'

    But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
    Would you vote to join the E.U? *drops mic*.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    fitalass said:

    Tim_B said:

    I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.

    Good luck Leavers!!!

    Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'

    But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
    I wouldn't vote even if I had one to use (unless I was living in the UK of course). The US is our home, and where we belong. We've spent most of our lives here. I follow what happens there to some extent, because I'm still a brit underneath, but not enough to leave my home and move to a country I originally left over 36 years ago.

    So you'll just have to be content with good wishes.
  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    noone's mentioned that Northern Island is going to be very wet most of the afternoon & evening
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    JennyFreeman said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    noone's mentioned that Northern Island is going to be very wet most of the afternoon & evening
    Is that unusual?
  • HappyMcFluffyHappyMcFluffy Posts: 53
    Tim_B said:

    JennyFreeman said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    noone's mentioned that Northern Island is going to be very wet most of the afternoon & evening
    Is that unusual?
    Very.

    It normally rains in the morning too.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,726
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,619
    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D
  • dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    http://m.gazette-news.co.uk/news/14570934.Darts_legend_Bobby_George_urges_voters_to_Remain_in_the_EU/


    That's it. It's in the bag
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited June 2016
    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.

  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    Indeed. Good morning, or actually lunchtime here, it's a balmy 30C outside my window with a clear blue sky. I didn't manage to find a proxy in my old constituency (my family moved away and I am not registered in their new constituency), but I have paired with a remainer who will now not vote, so that seems a reasonable alternative. Good luck everyone which ever side you support, and enjoy this hopefully momentous day.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,430
    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,619
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
    That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    You have to hand it to The Sun

    Independence Day - Britains Resurgence :D
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
    That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
    Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.

    I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.

    Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.

  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Today is THE GLORIOUS DAY

    POWER TO THE PEOPLE !

    Signed, Wolfie.
  • Hertsmere_PubgoerHertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.

    All we could do was to fight the good fight.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Brexit on 4.5 this morning on Betfair, and moving longer.

    Either a great value bet, or good money after bad.

    I do best with Remain on sub 45% and turnout 60-65%.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    MikeSmithson said:

    RobD said:

    The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.

    I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
    Yes Mike, it's a classic picture ..... just like the one of the female hand adorned with bright purple nails, depositing postal votes with matching purple printed envelopes into a Bedford pillar box.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Good morning all.

    It's throwing it down here in Epping Forest.

    Turnout 65-67%
    Result 53-47 - to who knows though?

    In some ways, I am more interested in seeing which polling methodology stands up more than the actual referendum result.

    May peace and harmony break out once the result is known, whoever wins.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited June 2016
    http://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/politics/british/group_b.d11f170c-3d7a-4e0f-a3fc-89aed4ee47c4/eu-referendum-specials

    'Ha'way The Counters'

    Buy @ 100 (ie, Sunderland to declare after 11.40pm)

    This seems to me to be a very decent bet when you consider the counting area/referendum logistics are very different to a GE count.

    I'm on for £10 per minute.

    Gulp ;)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,619
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
    That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
    Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.

    I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.

    Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
    Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.

    It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
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  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.

    who is "we" ?
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    The UK is now two nations, staring across a political chasm

    http://gu.com/p/4mfnz?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard < John Harris' polling day piece.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,430
    JennyFreeman said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.

    who is "we" ?
    Leave.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.

    Yup..... It will be dockside hooker treatment for the UK if and probably when remain wins. I think it will be that smiling Junker and his cohorts laughing and smiling patting each other on the back which will make most despair though.

    As an aside Apparently talks on Turkish EU entry are to restart next Thursday. Who knew?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited June 2016
    Deleted
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,083
    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
    That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
    Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.

    I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.

    Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
    Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.

    It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
    51- 49 for Remain won't cause market chaos but any Leave victory will. It's the result that matters as far as the market is concerned and Leave will ensure that uncertainty will continue for years, expect a rally if Remain prevails.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited June 2016
    logical_song said:

    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am. :D

    The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
    That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
    Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.

    I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.

    Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
    Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.

    It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
    51- 49 for Remain won't cause market chaos but any Leave victory will. It's the result that matters as far as the market is concerned and Leave will ensure that uncertainty will continue for years, expect a rally if Remain prevails.
    Not sure you can say that. A narrow Remain win means a paralysed government and huge pile of infighting, which won't please the markets either.
  • BromptonautBromptonaut Posts: 1,113
    nunu said:

    fitalass said:

    Tim_B said:

    I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.

    Good luck Leavers!!!

    Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'

    But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
    Would you vote to join the E.U? *drops mic*.
    Yes. And if Leave wins I fully expect to, in about 2026.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,619
    YellowSubmarine said:

    The UK is now two nations, staring across a political chasm

    http://gu.com/p/4mfnz?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard < John Harris' polling day piece.

    That's a very good article. There's going to be a long period of reflection needed after this referendum - by all sides and all parties.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,706
    edited June 2016
    Market uncertainty = money making opportunity for city traders.

    They love it! And create it.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.

    I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    betfair is still mystifying me, over £150k waiting to lay Remain at around 2/7.

    Some bank accounts and reputations are going to be well and truly trashed.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    chestnut said:

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    I just get LHR ads.
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    blackburn63 said:

    Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.

    I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.

    Today they are ringing their Bells, Tomorrow they will be wringing their hands. Brexit will be Suez on Steroids.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    JennyFreeman said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.

    who is "we" ?
    Leave.
    Backbone, Backbone. This is The Glorious Day
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    MikeSmithson said:

    RobD said:

    The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.

    I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
    Its become a favourite but it is a beautiful sunny day here in Dundee.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,726
    I somehow think that there aren't going to be any more referendums any time soon.....
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Don't know about anyone else, but I'm emotionally drained after just three or four months of this :weary:
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/745856646820298753
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    YellowSubmarine said:

    blackburn63 said:

    Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.

    I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.

    Today they are ringing their Bells, Tomorrow they will be wringing their hands. Brexit will be Suez on Steroids.
    I give you then our new Leader from tomorrow morning.

    http://tinyurl.com/z7jetcw
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    IanB2 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
    Look we have the Queen. Trying to claim God does not get you top spot.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,083
    DavidL said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
    Look we have the Queen. Trying to claim God does not get you top spot.
    How about Thor?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    logical_song said:

    DavidL said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
    Look we have the Queen. Trying to claim God does not get you top spot.
    How about Thor?
    Nope.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,083
    IanB2 said:

    I somehow think that there aren't going to be any more referendums any time soon.....

    Amen to that.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,430
    DavidL said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
    Look we have the Queen. Trying to claim God does not get you top spot.
    God works in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,819
    When are the last polls due?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Absolutely chucking it down in NW5. This is big Remain country.

    I end the immigration referendum campaign believing exactly what I believed at the start: a narrow win for Leave.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    When is the Ipsos Mori due out?
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    David Allen Green has proposed a Referendum Act. It will ban referendums and have a clause in it saying it can only be repealed by a referendum.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    DavidL said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    For weather watchers:

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Whoever arranges the weather clearly doesn't like UKIP...
    Look we have the Queen. Trying to claim God does not get you top spot.
    Well Liz has been reigning for some 63 years and they never forecast that :wink:
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,083
    philiph said:

    Market uncertainty = money making opportunity for city traders.

    They love it! And create it.

    I wouldn't complain if they were deprived of those opportunities this time.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    DavidL said:

    When is the Ipsos Mori due out?

    If it is the one that was mentioned last night then around 9am this morning apparently?
  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    edited June 2016
    YellowSubmarine said:


    Today they are ringing their Bells, Tomorrow they will be wringing their hands. Brexit will be Suez on Steroids.

    logical_song said:


    51- 49 for Remain won't cause market chaos but any Leave victory will. Leave will ensure that uncertainty will continue for years

    now campaigning's ceased it'd be fab if hyperbole could join it :-)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    Moses_ said:

    DavidL said:

    When is the Ipsos Mori due out?

    If it is the one that was mentioned last night then around 9am this morning apparently?
    Thanks, I will have to see that at work then. Off to vote Leave shortly on the way.

    We can do this.
  • trawltrawl Posts: 142
    Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/745856646820298753

    Is that really Corbyn?

    Respect!
  • Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    chestnut said:

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    Why have the RCVS come out so strongly for leave?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/745856646820298753

    Is that really Corbyn?

    Respect!
    I looked at his account - he's using another profile pix and no messages since last night
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    SouthamObserver said:

    Absolutely chucking it down in NW5. This is big Remain country.

    The Lord Works in mysterious ways his wonders to behold
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    trawl said:

    Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.

    In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,084
    Just about to head out (still raining here!) to work and will pop in to vote en-route. Whatever your views, make sure YOUR vote counts!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    PlatoSaid said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/745856646820298753

    Is that really Corbyn?

    Respect!
    I looked at his account - he's using another profile pix and no messages since last night
    His message is surely more likely to be "Am I bovvered?"
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,726
    SouthamObserver said:

    Absolutely chucking it down in NW5. This is big Remain country.

    I end the immigration referendum campaign believing exactly what I believed at the start: a narrow win for Leave.

    You're just collateral damage from the rain aimed at Havering....

    Think it'll be remain, and not on a knife edge...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,736
    Dry and a bit of blue sky in south Devon. Waiting for the Good Lady Wifi to surface so we can do our civic duty.

    Voting for Leave more in hope than expectation. But hope is more than I could ever have expected on polling day.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    YellowSubmarine said:

    The UK is now two nations, staring across a political chasm

    http://gu.com/p/4mfnz?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard < John Harris' polling day piece.

    Excellent article. It's pretty crap in a lot of working class parts of the UK. And because working class votes don't really matter in normal elections no-one takes much notice. What would change things is a change to the voting system. But it won't happen, sadly. Tomorrow we'll be back to normal - neither the Leave nor the Remain elites will give the people who'll decide this vote a second thought.

    If UKIP could just morph into a Eurosceptic, tough on immigration, socially conservative, big on the NHS, pro-union style party it could really breakthrough. But it won't. It's leadership (and I suspect its membership) just would not wear it.

  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Judging by what I have read about last nights B list luvvie in on Channel 4 last night, Fargle made the right call.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    murali_s said:

    Just about to head out (still raining here!) to work and will pop in to vote en-route. Whatever your views, make sure YOUR vote counts!

    Absolutely.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Assuming the eve of poll public polls are accurate then it's a Remain win.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,582
    edited June 2016
    Greek taxi driver, who may or may not be representative, thinks that the the murder of the MP was dirty and a put up job by the EU. They really, really hate the EU out here. He gave me money off our taxi ride when I said I had voted to leave!
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    DavidL said:

    trawl said:

    Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.

    In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
    Ha! How does this referendum compare for nail biting?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,726
    peter_from_putney said:

    IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.

    It's already at 6320 in the pre-market
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    DavidL said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/745856646820298753

    Is that really Corbyn?

    Respect!
    I looked at his account - he's using another profile pix and no messages since last night
    His message is surely more likely to be "Am I bovvered?"
    I have him down as a Shy Leaver :wink:
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Alistair said:

    Assuming the eve of poll public polls are accurate then it's a Remain win.

    Not if TNS are right about leave 7% ahead on likely voters

  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Are there any examples ever of one referendum choice being longer than 4 on the day and winning?
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    IanB2 said:

    peter_from_putney said:

    IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.

    It's already at 6320 in the pre-market
    Markets confident of a Remain victory
  • Innocent_AbroadInnocent_Abroad Posts: 3,294
    DavidL said:

    trawl said:

    Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.

    In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
    Full kilt regalia, eh? Were their thistles very prickly? :)

  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,819
    Absolutly lovely day here in North East England. Good for Leave?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    Alistair said:

    Assuming the eve of poll public polls are accurate then it's a Remain win.

    Not quite true.

    Depends how you read the TNS !
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    SouthamObserver said:

    YellowSubmarine said:

    The UK is now two nations, staring across a political chasm

    http://gu.com/p/4mfnz?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard < John Harris' polling day piece.

    Excellent article. It's pretty crap in a lot of working class parts of the UK. And because working class votes don't really matter in normal elections no-one takes much notice. What would change things is a change to the voting system. But it won't happen, sadly. Tomorrow we'll be back to normal - neither the Leave nor the Remain elites will give the people who'll decide this vote a second thought.

    If UKIP could just morph into a Eurosceptic, tough on immigration, socially conservative, big on the NHS, pro-union style party it could really breakthrough. But it won't. It's leadership (and I suspect its membership) just would not wear it.

    I have always been a fan of FPTP but I find it really hard to disagree with that. There are far too many safe seats, far too many votes that don't count, far too little incentive for people to get involved or express a view.

    Today shows democracy does not have to be that way.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,130
    Just voted, quite busy. As I left the station there was an almighty clap of thunder!
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Looking at the radar the heavy rain over London should clear in an hour or two
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,083
    tlg86 said:

    Just voted, quite busy. As I left the station there was an almighty clap of thunder!

    Damn, missed again.
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