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In this shorter than usual version of the show, Keiran Pedley spends 15 minutes breaking down the eve of referendum polls and giving his thoughts on the campaign, what to expect on the day and what happens next.
The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.
I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
OK maybe this is just me clutching straws, but I think there is a significant shy leaver syndrome in the phone polls. Over the past week Outers have basically been told that they are all psychopathic racists. Would you do a phone poll in this atmosphere? Hmmm. I don't think so. Mori will show a swing to remain. Yougov is just moe. I think online is closer to reality. We shall see. I predict 50.5- 49.5 to Leave.
The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.
I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
Mike, it now wouldn't be a big polling day on PB.com without this picture.
I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.
Good luck Leavers!!!
Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.
Good luck Leavers!!!
Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.
Good luck Leavers!!!
Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
I wouldn't vote even if I had one to use (unless I was living in the UK of course). The US is our home, and where we belong. We've spent most of our lives here. I follow what happens there to some extent, because I'm still a brit underneath, but not enough to leave my home and move to a country I originally left over 36 years ago.
So you'll just have to be content with good wishes.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
Indeed. Good morning, or actually lunchtime here, it's a balmy 30C outside my window with a clear blue sky. I didn't manage to find a proxy in my old constituency (my family moved away and I am not registered in their new constituency), but I have paired with a remainer who will now not vote, so that seems a reasonable alternative. Good luck everyone which ever side you support, and enjoy this hopefully momentous day.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.
I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.
Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.
I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
Yes Mike, it's a classic picture ..... just like the one of the female hand adorned with bright purple nails, depositing postal votes with matching purple printed envelopes into a Bedford pillar box.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.
I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.
Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.
It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
Horrid feeling we're going to get a hammering today. But never mind; I will have done what I believe to be right.
Yup..... It will be dockside hooker treatment for the UK if and probably when remain wins. I think it will be that smiling Junker and his cohorts laughing and smiling patting each other on the back which will make most despair though.
As an aside Apparently talks on Turkish EU entry are to restart next Thursday. Who knew?
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.
I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.
Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.
It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
51- 49 for Remain won't cause market chaos but any Leave victory will. It's the result that matters as far as the market is concerned and Leave will ensure that uncertainty will continue for years, expect a rally if Remain prevails.
Morning all! Is it raining everywhere in UK? It's very hot and sunny here, 36 degrees and rising at 8:30am.
The calm before the storm. Overcast warm and humid in the East Midlands. Feels like a thunderstorm building. Its been like this for weeks. Not much sunshine here.
That doesn't sound too good. Glad I've stayed out of the turnout markets.
Looking at the forecast it is the SE coast and East Anglia that will get the thunderstorms, the rest of us will just be hot and sticky.
I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.
Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
Hope the weather isn't too bad. @Alastairmeeks reported yesterday that he played the spread bets on turnout, buying a while ago at over 60 and cashing out yesterday when the base price moved to 70.
It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
51- 49 for Remain won't cause market chaos but any Leave victory will. It's the result that matters as far as the market is concerned and Leave will ensure that uncertainty will continue for years, expect a rally if Remain prevails.
Not sure you can say that. A narrow Remain win means a paralysed government and huge pile of infighting, which won't please the markets either.
I voted to stay in the EEC in 1975. If I had a vote Thursday it would be to Leave.
Good luck Leavers!!!
Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
But if you had a vote in EU Ref and #Brexit won, would you have been prepared to come back from America to help support UK through this economic transition or just sat observing from afar unaffected?
Would you vote to join the E.U? *drops mic*.
Yes. And if Leave wins I fully expect to, in about 2026.
Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.
I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.
Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.
I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.
Today they are ringing their Bells, Tomorrow they will be wringing their hands. Brexit will be Suez on Steroids.
The old polling place picture is back! Next we need the smiling Gordons and it'll be just like old times.
I love that picture which was taken by me on general election day 2005 just before the polls opened at my polling station. Its got a lot of life and, I'd suggest, quite in keeping with this morning's weather.
Its become a favourite but it is a beautiful sunny day here in Dundee.
Well done to David Cameron for giving us this referendum, a lot of politicians are effectively finished tomorrow, irrepairable damage has been done, to the victor the spoils and all that.
I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.
Today they are ringing their Bells, Tomorrow they will be wringing their hands. Brexit will be Suez on Steroids.
I give you then our new Leader from tomorrow morning.
Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.
Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.
In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
Excellent article. It's pretty crap in a lot of working class parts of the UK. And because working class votes don't really matter in normal elections no-one takes much notice. What would change things is a change to the voting system. But it won't happen, sadly. Tomorrow we'll be back to normal - neither the Leave nor the Remain elites will give the people who'll decide this vote a second thought.
If UKIP could just morph into a Eurosceptic, tough on immigration, socially conservative, big on the NHS, pro-union style party it could really breakthrough. But it won't. It's leadership (and I suspect its membership) just would not wear it.
IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.
Greek taxi driver, who may or may not be representative, thinks that the the murder of the MP was dirty and a put up job by the EU. They really, really hate the EU out here. He gave me money off our taxi ride when I said I had voted to leave!
Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.
In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
Ha! How does this referendum compare for nail biting?
IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.
IG Index has the FTSE 100 finishing up around 60 points today at ~ 6321 which would be four consecutive days of increases which taken together amount to 300 points or 5% .... one of its strongest recoveries over recent years, although still more than 780 points or 11% below its all time closing high of 7104 reached 14 months ago on 27 April 2015, followed by a May in which we should certainly have sold and gone away and for quite some time it has proved.
Hurrah, voted @7 & was first in at my station (wasn't first there but those before me were for the other station in the same school hall). Here's hoping. Seemed busy to me for 7am but nothing to compare against - never been early before but couldn't wait any longer, been waiting since Maastricht.
In Sindy I was on a polling station at 7 doing card duty (a rather pointless displacement activity but hey) and some arrived that early wearing their full kilt regalia. I had them down as maybes.....:-)
Full kilt regalia, eh? Were their thistles very prickly?
Excellent article. It's pretty crap in a lot of working class parts of the UK. And because working class votes don't really matter in normal elections no-one takes much notice. What would change things is a change to the voting system. But it won't happen, sadly. Tomorrow we'll be back to normal - neither the Leave nor the Remain elites will give the people who'll decide this vote a second thought.
If UKIP could just morph into a Eurosceptic, tough on immigration, socially conservative, big on the NHS, pro-union style party it could really breakthrough. But it won't. It's leadership (and I suspect its membership) just would not wear it.
I have always been a fan of FPTP but I find it really hard to disagree with that. There are far too many safe seats, far too many votes that don't count, far too little incentive for people to get involved or express a view.
Today shows democracy does not have to be that way.
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Bucketing it down outside at the mo, hope the weather clears up a tad for a good turnout.
http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
Good luck Leavers!!!
Weather - sorry to hear of the rain. Here it's getting dark and just dropped below 30 degrees C. Just sayin'
So you'll just have to be content with good wishes.
It normally rains in the morning too.
That's it. It's in the bag
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I really don't know how this is going to go. Few are talking about how they will vote and there is little precedent. My hunch is on Remain with a good margin, perhaps 55/45 like the Sindyref.
Turnout will be on the lowish side, less than the GE, I am fairly sure.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !
Signed, Wolfie.
Either a great value bet, or good money after bad.
I do best with Remain on sub 45% and turnout 60-65%.
It's throwing it down here in Epping Forest.
Turnout 65-67%
Result 53-47 - to who knows though?
In some ways, I am more interested in seeing which polling methodology stands up more than the actual referendum result.
May peace and harmony break out once the result is known, whoever wins.
'Ha'way The Counters'
Buy @ 100 (ie, Sunderland to declare after 11.40pm)
This seems to me to be a very decent bet when you consider the counting area/referendum logistics are very different to a GE count.
I'm on for £10 per minute.
Gulp
It's going to be a momentous day whatever the result, hope that either way it is at least decisive - 51-49 helps no-one and is a recipe for market chaos.
http://gu.com/p/4mfnz?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard < John Harris' polling day piece.
As an aside Apparently talks on Turkish EU entry are to restart next Thursday. Who knew?
They love it! And create it.
I'm one of the few that has enjoyed it, gloves off, no holds barred, a real dirty fight. I'm looking forward to the yah boos and recriminations both on here and in the wider world, human nature is unforgiving.
Some bank accounts and reputations are going to be well and truly trashed.
http://tinyurl.com/z7jetcw
I end the immigration referendum campaign believing exactly what I believed at the start: a narrow win for Leave.
We can do this.
Respect!
Think it'll be remain, and not on a knife edge...
Voting for Leave more in hope than expectation. But hope is more than I could ever have expected on polling day.
If UKIP could just morph into a Eurosceptic, tough on immigration, socially conservative, big on the NHS, pro-union style party it could really breakthrough. But it won't. It's leadership (and I suspect its membership) just would not wear it.
Depends how you read the TNS !
Today shows democracy does not have to be that way.