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Sunil_Prasannan said:

So we're all going to die horribly if we leave the EU, Alastair?

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

Sandpit said:

A better response:
https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/731028331467055104

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

dugarbandier said:

I suspect Alistair has a large bet with TSE that he can be less popuar than Don Brind

Don Brind has been very good in recent articles. Mr Meeks writes interesting things except when he tells LEAVE all the mistakes they are making which is like the little boy saying "look the king has clothes on" when the king is clearly naked.

tyson said:

Must rank as one of the posts of the year.

Do another...do another......

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

LewisDuckworth said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Is Mr Meeks article giving us all the insight into why LEAVE are 20% behind in the polls?

What? Someone just advised me that the polls are level? Who'd ave thunk it?

So what is the point of this article? How about an article on
"WHY HAS PROJECT FEAR FAILED TO GET A LEAD"

Yes, but you've missed off the ?????? - Meeks's question marks; clearly he doesn't know.

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Alanbrooke said:

tyson said:

Very good. Do another...do another......

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

There was a young lawyer called Meeks
who used to put goats down his breeks
and there once inserted
a smile most perverted
would stay on his face for two weeks

SeanT said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - who they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Nigel Farage

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - who they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Well it depends if they are scaremongering/bullshitting or not, wouldn't it?

That's sort of my point. Who wouldn't be described as a scaremonger/bullshitter if they advocated Remain?

HurstLlama said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Yes

TCPoliticalBetting said:

dugarbandier said:

I suspect Alistair has a large bet with TSE that he can be less popuar than Don Brind

Don Brind has been very good in recent articles. Mr Meeks writes interesting things except when he tells LEAVE all the mistakes they are making which is like the little boy saying "look the king has clothes on" when the king is clearly naked.

Alanbrooke said:

tyson said:

Very good. Do another...do another......

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

There was a young lawyer called Meeks
who used to put goats down his breeks
and there once inserted
a smile most perverted
would stay on his face for two weeks

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Well it depends if they are scaremongering/bullshitting or not, wouldn't it?

That's sort of my point. Who wouldn't be described as a scaremonger/bullshitter if they advocated Remain?

Once example here, Stark:

IMF: The UK’s exit from the European Union could cause “severe regional and global damage”.

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Well it depends if they are scaremongering/bullshitting or not, wouldn't it?

That's sort of my point. Who wouldn't be described as a scaremonger/bullshitter if they advocated Remain?

Once example here, Stark:

IMF: The UK’s exit from the European Union could cause “severe regional and global damage”.

But the IMF has been decried. (See thread header.)

tyson said:

Not bad, but not quite in the exalted company of Alanbrooke who I am going to personally nominate as the next Poet Laureate.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

tyson said:

Must rank as one of the posts of the year.

Do another...do another......

Alanbrooke said:

There was a young fellow called Meeks
who used to tease Leavers for weeks
he'd use insults and trolling
and plain made up polling
conveyed through the arse twixt his cheeks.

There was a young bloke called Tyson
Who vacuumed his pad with a Dyson
He tripped on the stairs
And sucked off the hairs
Of his proudly stuffed Bison

SouthamObserver said:

Alanbrooke said:

SouthamObserver said:

Alastair is doing it on purpose now. But it is notable that in no response from Leave has there been an explanation as to why the claims being made are wrong.

well really SO what's point ? It's just a Friday pm wind up.

I actually think it is a very clever tactic: rubbish the messenger, question his/her motives and proclaim it is all ridiculous hyperbole. That way you never have to engage with the actual argument. It's straight out of the SNP playbook. Once the referendum is won, it doesn't matter what happens next - you haver what you want and there is no going back.

SeanT said:

How can Alaisdair MEEKS afford to take off so much time, to pen these interminable screeds. He must have spent hours on this one, it even has special graphics and everything. I picture him beavering away, tongue slightly protruding between his lips, ruler and pencil gripped tightly in his little hands, working deep into the night in his caravan by Lake Balaton.

One can only conclude that he is being paid for his efforts, otherwise it makes no sense. And paid, needless to say, BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT - the EU.

The traitor is unmasked.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Bleeding hell!! This is quite funny.

I've just been on the phone to HMRC's Stamp Duty helpline, with the simplest of all conceivable simple questions about Stamp Duty on shares. My question was: if you have a share sale where more than one class of shares is being sold simultaneously (same seller and same purchaser), and on one class of shares the value of the transaction is less than the £1000 cut-off below which Stamp Duty is not payable, does the whole thing count as one related transaction (so you pay stamp duty on the whole lot), or separate transactions where you pay stamp duty only on those classes of shares where the sales value is over £1000?

Answer (after putting me on hold to check with colleagues): They have been asked this many times before, and they don't know.

What really gets me about this sort of stuff is that they have the gall to threaten directors and company secretaries with criminal sanctions for getting this sort of detail wrong, but can't answer the most trivial questions themselves.

Stark_Dawning said:

HurstLlama said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Yes

Who is it?

Casino_Royale said:

How does Alastair think Vote Leave should respond?

Richard_Nabavi said:

Bleeding hell!! This is quite funny.

I've just been on the phone to HMRC's Stamp Duty helpline, with the simplest of all conceivable simple questions about Stamp Duty on shares. My question was: if you have a share sale where more than one class of shares is being sold simultaneously (same seller and same purchaser), and on one class of shares the value of the transaction is less than the £1000 cut-off below which Stamp Duty is not payable, does the whole thing count as one related transaction (so you pay stamp duty on the whole lot), or separate transactions where you pay stamp duty only on those classes of shares where the sales value is over £1000?

Answer (after putting me on hold to check with colleagues): They have been asked this many times before, and they don't know.

What really gets me about this sort of stuff is that they have the gall to threaten directors and company secretaries with criminal sanctions for getting this sort of detail wrong, but can't answer the most trivial questions themselves.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Thought experiment. Can any Leaver on here name an individual or institution - a respectable one whose opinion carries weight - whom they wouldn't decry if they advocated Remain?

Well it depends if they are scaremongering/bullshitting or not, wouldn't it?

That's sort of my point. Who wouldn't be described as a scaremonger/bullshitter if they advocated Remain?

Once example here, Stark:

IMF: The UK’s exit from the European Union could cause “severe regional and global damage”.

But the IMF has been decried. (See thread header.)

Because their claim is scaremongering. Note the use of the word "could". The UK's exit COULD cause the SKY to FALL in.

MikeK said:

Pulpstar said:

Betting alert

Joe Biden has moved into 36/ 48 for some reason in the POTUS market.

Has Obama agreed to commit Sepuku?

stodge said:

Afternoon all

I'm not sure what the agenda is here (if there is one). I'll be honest - I don't really care what the IMF, President Obama, David Cameron, Antifrank, Scott P or anyone else says. Indeed, I don't even much care if there is a temporary economic reversal from us leaving the European Union.

I understand there are those who do and those who are terrified they might lose out on £4,300 by 2030 if we don't vote to REMAIN and those who fear we will collapse into darkness if we don't stay with the EU.

The analogy of the jailer telling the prisoner how lucky he is to be behind bars comes readily to mind.

TheScreamingEagles said:

MikeK said:

Mr Meeks, spelt Reeks, is at it again.

What a pity. When I was a youngster the English still had enormous pride in their country and it's history.

Now many English feel they should have been born anywhere but England. They lack pride and indeed, seem to hate their country. So much so, that they would like to make it a department of the EU, and bury themselves in it's amorphous mass.

Well England is already in an amorphous mass called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Actually the claim that Northern Ireland will suffer particularly badly from Brexit is uncontentious, surely.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Actually the claim that Northern Ireland will suffer particularly badly from Brexit is uncontentious, surely.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Actually the claim that Northern Ireland will suffer particularly badly from Brexit is uncontentious, surely.

SeanT said:

So that's it, for REMAIN. They've used their biggest guns, the powder is burnt.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, it's not odd that one side argues against another in a referendum campaign. The alternative is accepting what the other side says or, at least, letting it go unchallenged.

Viceroy said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

If Leavers don't care about what all these experts say, it's rather odd that they put so much effort into rubbishing them and inventing every more ludicrous conspiracy theories to explain why they say what they say.

We spend the time to rubbish what is plainly rubbish because you're campaigning not on a belief in the European Union (which we have in this country and a thousand years of independence) but on trying to scare people away from the other option. The problem you face is that the more you use it, and the more absurd the claims, the less credibility you will have - as seen in the Scottish referendum campaign. I am a strong Unionist on Powell levels, but the campaign the Unionists waged in Scotland was absolutely pathetic and based on mistruths and outright lies.

And even if you do win on this basis, there will be another referendum because you are still not all being honest on where the EU is headed: political union. If you do manage to win on this cocktail of lies and scare stories in 2016, there will be another referendum because you have failed to openly declare where it is heading. Before the next treaty (2025).