Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
Even in her thread is a number very different from 20-30%. It says 1 in 20 may have at least one long lasting symptom. I make that 5% but then I’m not on iSAGE...
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
It's literally all lies and takes no account of vaccines reducing severity of infection.
It does seem some want to destroy the country's economy completely
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Only 50 double vaxxed people over 50 have died in 5 months. And 0 under 50. The government numbers say pfizer is still only 80 odd percent efficiency, but 98/99% it becoming serious. Flu jab gives you nothing like that protection.
Before covid a certain proportion of oldies would have ended up being vented because of pneumonia, flu, etc etc etc.
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 · 12m Leeds Hyde Park rave 'blatant' Covid rule breach.
*But if you do it while drinking Pimm's at Wimbledon, then it's absolutely fine. 🤷🏻♀️
Is she really that dense?
I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer that one!
Here's the entry requirements for Wimbledon.
Upon entry to the Grounds, all Ticket Holders (age 11 and over) shall be required to show certification of a (i) negative COVID-19 lateral flow test result (taken in the 48 hours prior to attending The Championships) from a UK Government-approved test provider (either via a home kit or via a test centre), with certification shown via email or text or (ii) a double COVID-19 vaccination received at least 2 weeks prior to attending the Grounds, which Ticket Holders shall be required to show (a) via the NHS App for Ticket Holders in England or (b) via the approved certification routes for Ticket Holders from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. All other Ticket Holders will be required to undertake a COVID-19 lateral flow test and provide proof of a negative result in order to gain entry.
Now can somebody show me the entry requirements for the Hyde Park rave?
No entry without at least six cans of lager and your own spliff?
Your own spliff? That would upset the bouncers and the drugs dealers. Who would be the same people, actually.
To be honest I am too old to remember what precisely goes on. And I was at Leeds uni.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
It did help ensure he avoided being hospitalised however.
The vaccinations don't prevent you catching Covid, it will likely always be with us now like flu and the common cold, however the vaccines do minimise your risk of being hospitalised by it or dying from it
Exactly right and when you consider Mr Marr has suffered heart conditions and a stroke it is even better News on vaccine effectivity in reducing hospitalisation.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Like Marr was... oh no, he just had a summer cold. Of course some will get very sick and die even after two vaccinations but it’s a numbers game. Most wont.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
We are seeing hospitalisations levelling off and there has been plenty of time for them to feed through from the cases.
Interesting that since the 17 July, it looks like in the 85+ age group hospitalisation has gone down, only slightly so may just be 'noise'
but its could also be the case that:
1) The effeteness of the vaccine increases with time, even after the second jab, 2) The viruses is increasingly in younger and younger people, who have less contact with the over 85s
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
It's literally all lies and takes no account of vaccines reducing severity of infection.
It does seem some want to destroy the country's economy completely
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Not a huge number, Marr has got a heart condition so is already at risk and he's also over 60. That he's just had a "summer cold" is a brilliant result from a disease that was hospitalising around 40% of people in his category and killing off around 10% of people in his category.
It's a huge vindication of the vaccine and more evidence that everyone who is eligible should get it.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
It's literally all lies and takes no account of vaccines reducing severity of infection.
Is it just me but I detect that in last few days the zero-covid types have switched to going on about long covid?
Me thinks that with hospital numbers under control they are looking for a new front to keep the restrictions in place through summer and into an autumn lockdown.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
I know a couple of people with it. 100% caused by Cov-SARS-2 being a novel virus. Post vax if you catch it, it ain't novel.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Not a huge number, Marr has got a heart condition so is already at risk and he's also over 60. That he's just had a "summer cold" is a brilliant result from a disease that was hospitalising around 40% of people in his category and killing off around 10% of people in his category.
It's a huge vindication of the vaccine and more evidence that everyone who is eligible should get it.
I believe PHE released new figures for each age group CFR when vaccinated. Overall it is down to 0.085%, but absolutely massive reductions in particular of over 50s...we know for when you got to 70s and 80s it was a scary percentage, it down to minute % now. I am sure somebody can pull out the data sheet.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Not a huge number, Marr has got a heart condition so is already at risk and he's also over 60. That he's just had a "summer cold" is a brilliant result from a disease that was hospitalising around 40% of people in his category and killing off around 10% of people in his category.
It's a huge vindication of the vaccine and more evidence that everyone who is eligible should get it.
I totally agree with the last statement, I was just mentioning that perhaps we arn't all fireproof even after being double jabbed!
The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed.
PC Benjamin Monk was convicted of the manslaughter of Atkinson last week after firing a stun gun into him for 33 seconds, and then kicking him twice in the head after a clash in August 2016.
On Monday at Birmingham crown court a sentencing hearing was told that Monk had two criminal cautions for drunkenness and theft before he joined the police but that they had not been disclosed when he applied to be an officer.
The prosecutor, Alexandra Healy QC, told the court Monk had applied to join the police in 2001. He was cautioned for theft in 1997 while an employee at a Woolworths store. In 1999, Healy told the court, Monk was cautioned after he was found drunk. Neither was disclosed and Monk became an officer with the West Mercia force.
In 2010 Monk went through another vetting process, Healy told the court, and the criminal cautions were discovered by his bosses. Monk faced a police disciplinary hearing charged with gross misconduct, which can lead to dismissal. He was found guilty of the disciplinary charge, which amounted to “discreditable conduct”, Healy told the court.
Instead of being dismissed Monk was given a final written warning.
Very sobering and worrying story from Marr concerning the catching of Delta after being double jagged.
Not worrying at all....he was unlucky to have caught it, was ill for a week, got better.... that's the vaccine working.
And remember his age plus previous health conditions, he is more vulnerable.
It does show that a certain proportion of us oldies will end up in the hospital being vented,
Not a huge number, Marr has got a heart condition so is already at risk and he's also over 60. That he's just had a "summer cold" is a brilliant result from a disease that was hospitalising around 40% of people in his category and killing off around 10% of people in his category.
It's a huge vindication of the vaccine and more evidence that everyone who is eligible should get it.
He has a heart condition as well?! I only knew about the stroke and cancer.
Complaining that he still had a nasty cold from covid struck me as tone deaf and ungrateful. What more do you want mate!
Hospitalisation admissions, occupancy and ventilator usage seem to be rising faster in Manchester now than during September.
Total patient numbers are about a quarter of what they were in late January. If, as is alleged, 'every constituent part of the system is desperately struggling to cope' already, then there must be something else going on besides Covid. AFAIK we've not been hearing these sorts of cries from other hotspot areas.
If you have rocketing cases and still a need to self isolate even if double vaxed then there is going to be staffing shortages.
A good point, but they're also apparently claiming that Manchester's hospitals are running at bed occupancy levels ABOVE those when they were struggling to cope with previous tsunamis of Plague cases. Why?
I understand that - if the hospitals of Manchester are as stuffed as is claimed then I was wondering what else *other than Covid* was causing the problem, given that we're not getting similar reports from all over the country?
Hmmm - catchup from all the stuff missed/delayed by COVID?
But if you're frightened that your healthcare system is going to fall over then you don't admit all those routine surgery cases to hospital. Those with arthritic joints are left to suffer at home. This is not a satisfactory state of affairs but at least all the beds don't end up full as a result. It has to be something else...
What a great player, I can’t understand the criticism he gets
Tyldesley & McCoist the perfect commentary team
Because Pogba doesn't do it often enough...with a feeling he chooses when he fancies it, when everybody knows he has incredible talent.
I understand he is also totally inflexible, he refuses to play anyway other than his role for France. If Man Utd ask him to adjust his role, he takes his bat and ball home.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed.
PC Benjamin Monk was convicted of the manslaughter of Atkinson last week after firing a stun gun into him for 33 seconds, and then kicking him twice in the head after a clash in August 2016.
On Monday at Birmingham crown court a sentencing hearing was told that Monk had two criminal cautions for drunkenness and theft before he joined the police but that they had not been disclosed when he applied to be an officer.
The prosecutor, Alexandra Healy QC, told the court Monk had applied to join the police in 2001. He was cautioned for theft in 1997 while an employee at a Woolworths store. In 1999, Healy told the court, Monk was cautioned after he was found drunk. Neither was disclosed and Monk became an officer with the West Mercia force.
In 2010 Monk went through another vetting process, Healy told the court, and the criminal cautions were discovered by his bosses. Monk faced a police disciplinary hearing charged with gross misconduct, which can lead to dismissal. He was found guilty of the disciplinary charge, which amounted to “discreditable conduct”, Healy told the court.
Instead of being dismissed Monk was given a final written warning.
I'm not convinced it is outrageous, if the bad stuff was years ago before he joined the police and was non-violent. What ought to concern us is giving tazers to all sorts of people without necessarily the same screening and training given to firearms officers.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
The last 18 months have clearly shown that scientists can be just as opinionated, biased, blinkered, or simply plain wrong as any other person. Being clever and educated doesn't make a person automatically right, no matter how many letters after their name, nor how prestigous a post they hold.
The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed.
PC Benjamin Monk was convicted of the manslaughter of Atkinson last week after firing a stun gun into him for 33 seconds, and then kicking him twice in the head after a clash in August 2016.
On Monday at Birmingham crown court a sentencing hearing was told that Monk had two criminal cautions for drunkenness and theft before he joined the police but that they had not been disclosed when he applied to be an officer.
The prosecutor, Alexandra Healy QC, told the court Monk had applied to join the police in 2001. He was cautioned for theft in 1997 while an employee at a Woolworths store. In 1999, Healy told the court, Monk was cautioned after he was found drunk. Neither was disclosed and Monk became an officer with the West Mercia force.
In 2010 Monk went through another vetting process, Healy told the court, and the criminal cautions were discovered by his bosses. Monk faced a police disciplinary hearing charged with gross misconduct, which can lead to dismissal. He was found guilty of the disciplinary charge, which amounted to “discreditable conduct”, Healy told the court.
Instead of being dismissed Monk was given a final written warning.
I'm not convinced it is outrageous, if the bad stuff was years ago before he joined the police and was non-violent. What ought to concern us is giving tazers to all sorts of people without necessarily the same screening and training given to firearms officers.
Doesnt say much for his honesty though does it? Not lying for personal gain ought to be some kind of baseline. And, no, I am not concerned he had convictions.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
Having wasted some of my life a while back looking at her followers comments, it’s not hard to see why she does it. She is a hero to them. Quite a simply adulation for her fighting against the lies and evil from the government. It’s a heady mix.
Pogba’s just too flashy, too bling for some people. What’s with the silly hairdo and clobber?
If you think Pogba clobber is too much....have you seen some of the photos of Haaland on his holidays? He appears to have been out and about in what looks like patterned silk PJs. Even too jazzy for Mr TSE.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
I know a couple of people with it. 100% caused by Cov-SARS-2 being a novel virus. Post vax if you catch it, it ain't novel.
Sorry, what does that mean to a layman. Novel and non novel ?
Pogba’s just too flashy, too bling for some people. What’s with the silly hairdo and clobber?
If you think Pogba clobber is too much....have you seen some of the photos of Haaland on his holidays? He appears to have out and about in what looks like patterned silk PJs. Even too jazzy for Mrs TSE.
Ha I don’t, I just thought it’s funny that Souness is such a critic of his, yet was quite the diva himself
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
Having wasted some of my life a while back looking at her followers comments, it’s not hard to see why she does it. She is a hero to them. Quite a simply adulation for her fighting against the lies and evil from the government. It’s a heady mix.
I was shocked by that too: she has a followership that worship her. It’s weirdly cult-like.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
Having wasted some of my life a while back looking at her followers comments, it’s not hard to see why she does it. She is a hero to them. Quite a simply adulation for her fighting against the lies and evil from the government. It’s a heady mix.
I bet her followers are largely either FBPE or piss diamonds.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
Having wasted some of my life a while back looking at her followers comments, it’s not hard to see why she does it. She is a hero to them. Quite a simply adulation for her fighting against the lies and evil from the government. It’s a heady mix.
I was shocked by that too: she has a followership that worship her. It’s weirdly cult-like.
Both extreme sides of the argument seem to have cult like figures they worship and devils they detest.
The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed.
PC Benjamin Monk was convicted of the manslaughter of Atkinson last week after firing a stun gun into him for 33 seconds, and then kicking him twice in the head after a clash in August 2016.
On Monday at Birmingham crown court a sentencing hearing was told that Monk had two criminal cautions for drunkenness and theft before he joined the police but that they had not been disclosed when he applied to be an officer.
The prosecutor, Alexandra Healy QC, told the court Monk had applied to join the police in 2001. He was cautioned for theft in 1997 while an employee at a Woolworths store. In 1999, Healy told the court, Monk was cautioned after he was found drunk. Neither was disclosed and Monk became an officer with the West Mercia force.
In 2010 Monk went through another vetting process, Healy told the court, and the criminal cautions were discovered by his bosses. Monk faced a police disciplinary hearing charged with gross misconduct, which can lead to dismissal. He was found guilty of the disciplinary charge, which amounted to “discreditable conduct”, Healy told the court.
Instead of being dismissed Monk was given a final written warning.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
I know a couple of people with it. 100% caused by Cov-SARS-2 being a novel virus. Post vax if you catch it, it ain't novel.
Sorry, what does that mean to a layman. Novel and non novel ?
Vaccination shows the body the virus (well a bit of it), so when it encounters the real thing, it’s no longer a new (novel) infection, and has a head start in fighting it, usually with better results.
I thought between the Chesham & Amersham by-election and the Croatia vs Spain match, I'd seen two extraordinary encounters this month.
France vs Switzerland makes it three - one can only hope tomorrow evening dishes up something as entertaining (or perhaps not, some on here will have problems if it does).
The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed.
PC Benjamin Monk was convicted of the manslaughter of Atkinson last week after firing a stun gun into him for 33 seconds, and then kicking him twice in the head after a clash in August 2016.
On Monday at Birmingham crown court a sentencing hearing was told that Monk had two criminal cautions for drunkenness and theft before he joined the police but that they had not been disclosed when he applied to be an officer.
The prosecutor, Alexandra Healy QC, told the court Monk had applied to join the police in 2001. He was cautioned for theft in 1997 while an employee at a Woolworths store. In 1999, Healy told the court, Monk was cautioned after he was found drunk. Neither was disclosed and Monk became an officer with the West Mercia force.
In 2010 Monk went through another vetting process, Healy told the court, and the criminal cautions were discovered by his bosses. Monk faced a police disciplinary hearing charged with gross misconduct, which can lead to dismissal. He was found guilty of the disciplinary charge, which amounted to “discreditable conduct”, Healy told the court.
Instead of being dismissed Monk was given a final written warning.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
I know a couple of people with it. 100% caused by Cov-SARS-2 being a novel virus. Post vax if you catch it, it ain't novel.
Sorry, what does that mean to a layman. Novel and non novel ?
Vaccination shows the body the virus (well a bit of it), so when it encounters the real thing, it’s no longer a new (novel) infection, and has a head start in fighting it, usually with better results.
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
There are those who, for instance, have watched and read about Andrew Marr's experience and will feel even with two vaccinations they cannot risk contracting the virus.
Why - because they have pre-existing health conditions and other factors which mean they are scared if they catch covid they will need to go to hospital and fear they won't return. Quoting statistics at them doesn't help - we need a different approach .
How do you confront that kind of fear? Well, shouting at people and calling them names isn't going to help. Opening up and pretending everything can be "normal" may not be the answer either - we need a proper sensible adult conversation about the risks for the doubly vaccinated and especially the most vulnerable.
Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · 4h But rapid recent increases have not yet fed through to hospitalisations - so hospitalisations will go up over next 2 wks.
Also, 20-30% of people infected will likely end up with long covid - with maybe 15% having it severely affect their daily lives
20-30% get Long Covid? Seriously? Where does that figure come from?
1. The case rate rises that have already happened haven't resulted in a corresponding sharp and continuous rise in hospitalisations 2. Her Long Covid claim looks suspiciously like something made up on the spot to frighten people
But it depends what she means by long Covid. It seems to cover many conditions from a slightly longer recovery to the situation poor Derek Draper ended up,in.
I know a couple of people with it. 100% caused by Cov-SARS-2 being a novel virus. Post vax if you catch it, it ain't novel.
Sorry, what does that mean to a layman. Novel and non novel ?
Do you already have antigens against the virus either from prior exposure or from vaccination
Pagel’s latest tweet is irresponsible in the extreme. She is a mathematician. How on Earth does she get away with this stuff?
She's a moron and gets signal boosted by people with Boris and Brexit derangement syndrome who are looking for any kind of idiot who is anti-government.
There are those who, for instance, have watched and read about Andrew Marr's experience and will feel even with two vaccinations they cannot risk contracting the virus.
Why - because they have pre-existing health conditions and other factors which mean they are scared if they catch covid they will need to go to hospital and fear they won't return. Quoting statistics at them doesn't help - we need a different approach .
How do you confront that kind of fear? Well, shouting at people and calling them names isn't going to help. Opening up and pretending everything can be "normal" may not be the answer either - we need a proper sensible adult conversation about the risks for the doubly vaccinated and especially the most vulnerable.
Andrew Marr story is a positive one. It should be reported as such.
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Before covid a certain proportion of oldies would have ended up being vented because of pneumonia, flu, etc etc etc.
but its could also be the case that:
1) The effeteness of the vaccine increases with time, even after the second jab,
2) The viruses is increasingly in younger and younger people, who have less contact with the over 85s
It's a huge vindication of the vaccine and more evidence that everyone who is eligible should get it.
Second verse:
God Save One Britain!
Long Live One Nation!
Let's all be cheery!
Wales, England, Scotland,
AND NORTHERN IRELAND,
We are all One Land,
At least in theory...
There. Happy now? Some people are never satisfied...
Yes, is should 'sober up' some of the panic merchants, but it wont.
Complaining that he still had a nasty cold from covid struck me as tone deaf and ungrateful. What more do you want mate!
YouTube comes free but it’s in one place along with Sky Sports BT Sport and tons of other channels.
I just choose the channel I want to watch, it takes less than a second unlike faffing around with a computer.
Streaming is useful if you are on the move, otherwise watch it on telly.
2nd half France Pogba
What a great player, I can’t understand the criticism he gets
Tyldesley & McCoist the perfect commentary team
Also what are these “channels” things you speak of?
Perhaps the conclusion of the group of death round of games comes close for drama, but today's games have been quality.
I understand he is also totally inflexible, he refuses to play anyway other than his role for France. If Man Utd ask him to adjust his role, he takes his bat and ball home.
You never know what you are going to get from him from game to game. Which seems to happen more frequently at club level.
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Pogba’s just too flashy, too bling for some people. What’s with the silly hairdo and clobber?
Not lying for personal gain ought to be some kind of baseline.
And, no, I am not concerned he had convictions.
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In case you are not close to London education system right now, let me inform you that the schools are in absolute chaos
UEFA must be loving it. They will claim total justification, was totally for footballing reasons and making a few extra quid as well.
I thought between the Chesham & Amersham by-election and the Croatia vs Spain match, I'd seen two extraordinary encounters this month.
France vs Switzerland makes it three - one can only hope tomorrow evening dishes up something as entertaining (or perhaps not, some on here will have problems if it does).
But I'd still prefer more games between better teams rather than the lottery of the draw.
Why can't people just appreciate bad art for what it is, rather than nitpick?
I'll cry if you lot aren't careful.
I’m gonna give up betting on football though!
As fun as these games have been today, I don't think I could cope if it's like this tomorrow
https://twitter.com/TimGatt/status/1409616200464805890
Why - because they have pre-existing health conditions and other factors which mean they are scared if they catch covid they will need to go to hospital and fear they won't return. Quoting statistics at them doesn't help - we need a different approach .
How do you confront that kind of fear? Well, shouting at people and calling them names isn't going to help. Opening up and pretending everything can be "normal" may not be the answer either - we need a proper sensible adult conversation about the risks for the doubly vaccinated and especially the most vulnerable.
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