Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
I’m agreeing with you, but noting that tourist industry is better than no tourist industry and enables other opportunities (which need to be consciously chosen and developed) besides.
There is SOME evidence that vaccines are working well against the Delta variant but given that most of the Delta cases are new it is too soon to be sure.
Again there is SOME evidence that fewer cases are leading to hospitalisations but again it is too early to be sure. Most of the Delta infections have only been reported in the last week/10 days or so and there is a lag in hospitalisation data.
Also the Government is ABSOLUTELY DESPERATE not to go backwards ie go back to Stage 2 rules or worse.
So this is why the Government will take 4 more weeks.
The evidence is enormous that the vaccines are working effectively against the Delta variant.
But, there are people in positions of authority who are desperate not to believe that vaccines are working.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
fpt about SKS being doomed because he is a remainer.
Not to say he isn't and I've no idea after the bollocks that the EU indulged in over the vaccines/Ireland, etc what the overall public view is, but do we expect every politician to fall in behind the policies of the winner of the election they've just lost?
Should Lab win in 2024 (don't laugh) will the Cons adopt all the Lab policies because the public has spoken?
Not just because he was a Remainer, but because he actively tried to overturn the referendum result when he was Labour’s Brexit Sec. Politicians who campaigned for Remain but accepted the result and voted to enable Brexit rather than refusing to have it are a different kettle of fish
If he campaigned to do that presumably that was because he believed there was a constituency which was receptive to that. Not a large enough one, it turned out, but as a political strategy it is perfectly rational, if unsuccessful to date.
Yeah he can do what he likes, but I think him doing so is a big reason he’s polling the same as Corbyn personally, and his party worse than Jez’s worst election/losing safe Labour seats in by elections
If it's his Remainerdom that's the problem how come his polling used to be quite good?
Well almost half the country did vote Remain so he was entitled to get an easy ride at the start in polls. But in the Red Wall Leave seats he is doomed. And at 65% of constituencies voted Leave, he is double doomed
Then, add in the fact he is dull as ditchwater, and it’s triple doomage!
It's the Remain point that doesn't make sense. He was polling well generally as recently as 6 months ago. Have Leavers suddenly noticed that he used to be an arch Remainer? I know they're not the most astute of units but, no, this seems unlikely.
It does make sense, because he was doomed even when he was polling better than he is now, due to 65% of constituencies voting leave, and him being the arch Remainer responsible for the ‘people’s vote’ and the loss of the Red Wall.
In a nutshell, I doubt it was Leave voters responsible for his previously good polling
He was polling quite well generally. Across all the main divides and metrics.
Was he? I didn’t know that. I will obviously check and confirm/dispute
In his first Opinium poll he scored
51-4 with Remainers 22-13 with Leavers
Latest Opinium
36-35 with Remainers 17-53 with Leavers
Losing popularity pretty evenly really
Yep. Therefore the problem is not that he's a Remainer. There's no change there. He was. He is.
The slump is due to other stuff. Pandemic. Vaccines. Being dull compared to the MMM. Not opposing enough. Whatever.
This is my point.
Oh yes, I agree - the SLUMP is due to other stuff. My point was that he was doomed with Leavers from the off
But that's not what the data says. His composite ratings 6 months ago were good enough to contend. He doesn't need to win the Leave demos for that. He just needs to be not in the toilet with them. Which he is now. But he wasn't. And that delta is not explained by him being a high profile Remainer. This is my precise and only point.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
Then 5th July turns into 19th July to coincide with schools breaking up, then it will only be a other two weeks until everyone's been jabbed twice, then we'll need 10 days to get to maxim efficacy, then schools are reopening so keep measures until we're sure it won't lead to another spike in cases so let's do 12-17 year olds and finish those vaccines first, oh no it's time for the booster jab programme so we had better complete that first before everyone can be free.
Fuck it's 2022.
If they are going to stall until some point next month *and* they give an unambiguous guarantee that the rest of the punishments will be lifted on that day, then I'll choose to take their word for it just this once and assume that it will probably happen.
If it's anything else (x-number of weeks and another "review", or some other form of spurious waffle from Johnson) then the default assumption has to be that more excuses will be found.
I don't trust them at all. The public health wankers have seen all of the health "benefits" of keeping people locked up (we don't get run over by cars, we don't get wasted on weekends and end up in A&E with broken arms from tripping up, we don't smoke as much and we've all but eliminated the flu) and they want to hold onto it by any means necessary.
I don't remember who said it but they're right the UK has turned into the NHS with a country attached.
How can they give an unambiguous guarantee given cases are rising its impossible. You will have been fooled again
anyway from daily mail tonite Boris Johnson 'plans to delay June 21 Freedom Day to July 19' after Britain records 8,125 Covid infections in highest daily count since FEBRUARY and hospital admissions rise by another 40% week-on-week Infections in the UK have been rising steadily, driven by an explosion in cases caused by the Indian variant A PHE report today revealed confirmed cases of the 'Delta' strain had tripled in a week to more than 42,000 The Prime Minister today said he was determined not to repeat 'mistakes' made earlier in the pandemic By SAM BLANCHARD DEPUTY HEALTH EDITOR and JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:32, 11 June 2021 | UPDATED: 18:45, 11 June 2021
Then 5th July turns into 19th July to coincide with schools breaking up, then it will only be a other two weeks until everyone's been jabbed twice, then we'll need 10 days to get to maxim efficacy, then schools are reopening so keep measures until we're sure it won't lead to another spike in cases so let's do 12-17 year olds and finish those vaccines first, oh no it's time for the booster jab programme so we had better complete that first before everyone can be free.
Fuck it's 2022.
If they are going to stall until some point next month *and* they give an unambiguous guarantee that the rest of the punishments will be lifted on that day, then I'll choose to take their word for it just this once and assume that it will probably happen.
If it's anything else (x-number of weeks and another "review", or some other form of spurious waffle from Johnson) then the default assumption has to be that more excuses will be found.
I don't trust them at all. The public health wankers have seen all of the health "benefits" of keeping people locked up (we don't get run over by cars, we don't get wasted on weekends and end up in A&E with broken arms from tripping up, we don't smoke as much and we've all but eliminated the flu) and they want to hold onto it by any means necessary.
I don't remember who said it but they're right the UK has turned into the NHS with a country attached.
It could well be a long, tough fight to get rid of all the punishments. Even if the Government finally rolls back on distancing and capacity limits then we're still going to have to pull with all our collective might to get the rotten gags off our faces.
You can see the "NHS Winter Crisis" argument to keep on using masks forever coming from a mile away.
anyway from daily mail tonite Boris Johnson 'plans to delay June 21 Freedom Day to July 19' after Britain records 8,125 Covid infections in highest daily count since FEBRUARY and hospital admissions rise by another 40% week-on-week Infections in the UK have been rising steadily, driven by an explosion in cases caused by the Indian variant A PHE report today revealed confirmed cases of the 'Delta' strain had tripled in a week to more than 42,000 The Prime Minister today said he was determined not to repeat 'mistakes' made earlier in the pandemic By SAM BLANCHARD DEPUTY HEALTH EDITOR and JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:32, 11 June 2021 | UPDATED: 18:45, 11 June 2021
If that happens letter should go to the 1922 Committee.
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
anyway from daily mail tonite Boris Johnson 'plans to delay June 21 Freedom Day to July 19' after Britain records 8,125 Covid infections in highest daily count since FEBRUARY and hospital admissions rise by another 40% week-on-week Infections in the UK have been rising steadily, driven by an explosion in cases caused by the Indian variant A PHE report today revealed confirmed cases of the 'Delta' strain had tripled in a week to more than 42,000 The Prime Minister today said he was determined not to repeat 'mistakes' made earlier in the pandemic By SAM BLANCHARD DEPUTY HEALTH EDITOR and JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:32, 11 June 2021 | UPDATED: 18:45, 11 June 2021
If that happens letter should go to the 1922 Committee.
Then 5th July turns into 19th July to coincide with schools breaking up, then it will only be a other two weeks until everyone's been jabbed twice, then we'll need 10 days to get to maxim efficacy, then schools are reopening so keep measures until we're sure it won't lead to another spike in cases so let's do 12-17 year olds and finish those vaccines first, oh no it's time for the booster jab programme so we had better complete that first before everyone can be free.
Fuck it's 2022.
If they are going to stall until some point next month *and* they give an unambiguous guarantee that the rest of the punishments will be lifted on that day, then I'll choose to take their word for it just this once and assume that it will probably happen.
If it's anything else (x-number of weeks and another "review", or some other form of spurious waffle from Johnson) then the default assumption has to be that more excuses will be found.
I don't trust them at all. The public health wankers have seen all of the health "benefits" of keeping people locked up (we don't get run over by cars, we don't get wasted on weekends and end up in A&E with broken arms from tripping up, we don't smoke as much and we've all but eliminated the flu) and they want to hold onto it by any means necessary.
I don't remember who said it but they're right the UK has turned into the NHS with a country attached.
It could well be a long, tough fight to get rid of all the punishments. Even if the Government finally rolls back on distancing and capacity limits then we're still going to have to pull with all our collective might to get the rotten gags off our faces.
You can see the "NHS Winter Crisis" argument to keep on using masks forever coming from a mile away.
Another fucking “24 hours to save the NHS” pile of shite.
Why do I get the feeling that Boris will shrug off the direct link between his keeping an open border to India, and a delay in “Freedom Day” occasioned by the seeding and spread of the Indian variant.
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
Sensible move from the govt.
They’re right to ignore the huffing and puffing from the majority on PB.
So many on here don’t care about responsible government.
anyway from daily mail tonite Boris Johnson 'plans to delay June 21 Freedom Day to July 19' after Britain records 8,125 Covid infections in highest daily count since FEBRUARY and hospital admissions rise by another 40% week-on-week Infections in the UK have been rising steadily, driven by an explosion in cases caused by the Indian variant A PHE report today revealed confirmed cases of the 'Delta' strain had tripled in a week to more than 42,000 The Prime Minister today said he was determined not to repeat 'mistakes' made earlier in the pandemic By SAM BLANCHARD DEPUTY HEALTH EDITOR and JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:32, 11 June 2021 | UPDATED: 18:45, 11 June 2021
If that happens letter should go to the 1922 Committee.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
Yes; the great thing about a building that has been up for a bit is that it hasn't fallen down yet so has form on the subject. Looking at how many new estates are build all I could say is that I am not convinced that they are going to stay up for long.
It not about the bloody infections. Gaaaaah! I have had enough of these bastards.
Steve Baker should launch a leadership challenge. Enough is enough.
I think there is only one man that would cause me to leave the Conservative party if he were leader. That'd be Steve Baker. (Williamson comes very close)
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
I don’t think it works like that.
Have you ever been there?
Not really.
I once went to Norwich to see “Super Furry Animals” at the UEA. Does that count?
East Anglia is relatively wealthy. There’s not really a “problem” to fix, is there (save Great Yarmouth)?
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
As people have said here, the goalposts keep shifting.
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
Sensible move from the govt.
They would be best to downplay 5 July as that will not happen and they shouldn't raise expectations.
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
When reality doesn't match the scenarios you made then you make you make a new set of scenarios which give you the future you want.
Mainstream media seem unanimous. Johnson must stand pat.
My forecast: no substantive change ie no Freedom Day 21 June with a further review in 4 weeks. Likely though that weddings and similar events will be allowed with no limits on numbers, or maybe an increase to 100.
'Further review...??''
''Further review'' is a recipe for total chaos. Widespread civil disobedience, riots, mass bankruptcies pub/theatre/cinema etc closures.
I don't think you realise how stretched many businesses are. Even the ones that are open.
Maybe getting vaccinated would help
The government is undermining its own vaccination program with its 'government by scariant' policy
Vaccines are the way out, except when they might not be. Except when they are not completely effective. Or they face a new variant. At which point they become devalued.
Your efforts in getting vaccinated are amazing and wonderful UNTIL THEY AREN'T - because of variants.
And so vaccinations are not really about safety, are they? they are a control tool. And that's why I am not taking one.
It is a good job that 41,088,485 do not share your views, with tens of thousands added daily
They are the responsible citizens prisoners of this country
Fixed it for you
Without vaccinations you really would be a prisoner in this country
The problem isn't mine or your confidence in the vaccines, the problem is the Government's. It doesn't have any.
If Whitty and Vallance are calling for a delay, then I expect Boris will delay to some extent but not putting a stop to the removal of some restrictions
Am getting the feeling, that Boris Johnson & Co made a serious tactical error, in trumpting Freedom Day when there was ALWAYS a better-than-even chance that something MIGHT come up & throw a monkey wrench (or spanner if you prefer) into the works?
Speaking of monkeys, was Freedom Day trumpeted in order to clinch the historic Tory by-election victory in Hartlepool? If so, in retrospect seems like waste of political (and moral) capital, seeing has how, based on the numbers, the Conservative was gonna take the seat anyway. Icing that cake was NOT a good enough reason to throw caution, if not to the winds, but at least to the sidelines.
The government had to trumpet freedom day to keep people in line. To keep people obeying. Which they did to an astonishing degree.
Doesn't the astonishing degree perhaps suggest, that people have been, if not eager, then willing to accept restrictions because they make sense, both for themselves AND for other people? Also plenty of self-control going on, beyond & above what government suggests or mandates.
Which is not to say that administrators, politicos & governments don't get a taste for power and control, and that this must be limited, monitored and pushed back.
However, it is NOT all about control freakery. Elsewise, you simply would NOT have as many truly freedom-loving, individualistic folks in your country, mine & around the world doing their best to get with the program. NOT because they like it, but because they consider it the right thing to do, at this time.
I think you are rationalising things..ie we have made huge sacrifices so those sacrifices must have been worthwhile surely.......
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
Mrs Foxy's cousins on the IoW have the same grievance. All but one are on the mainland now.
To an extent the same is similar across "left behind areas" everywhere. The opportunities for the young are via the universities in the big cities. The simple pleasures of small town life pale in comparison, at least until thirty something.
Twas ever so, I suppose. My grandparents left small towns to move to the big city, my folks left Wigan, and I in turn left Winchester for the bright lights of London, and Fox jr2 has left Leicester for London.
If true, then exactly as some on here predicted last year. The Government fucked up its response to previous waves by prevaricating, and is now fucking up its response to this one through overcompensation. It shits the bed every single time.
And if there's no absolute promise that this will end on July 5th, or July 19th, or whatever date they pluck out of thin air, then precisely no-one will trust them not to delay again and write off the entire Summer. Because they almost certainly will.
No doubt it'll be a tour of Camel Valley vineyard tomorrow followed by dinner at Rick Stein's then a leisurely walk around the Lost Gardens of Heligan on Sunday.
Silliness aside, a dinner at the Eden Project is a rather clever choice - dramatic setting, weather proof and yet feels like the open air.
Eden project was another eu funded white elephant that made a lot of people very rich without doing much to help the area it was sited in
Is that true? I don't think the guy who set it up has got rich off the back of it. And it employs a lot of people. I think it's a pretty incredible place, TBH, although it's always way too busy. I prefer the Lost Gardens though, that's a really magical place. The contrast of the two is interesting: one innovative and futuristic, the other nostalgic and traditional. We seem as a country to be more comfortable with the latter, which is a pity I think, although I guess I am as much at fault as anyone else.
It cost 80 million, it wasnt designed by anyone from cornwall, most materials sourced outside cornwall, most constructors came from outside cornwall. It does provide in season about 350 min wage jobs and for some of the off season less. Now while I agree its an amazing place but don't forget of the 80 mill it cost 40 mill was the eu returning british tax payer money and 40 mill was matched from the funds set aside to develop cornwall.
As far as I can see all cornwall got for 80 million was 350 odd min wage jobs and 2 hour traffic jams in the summer on roads that generally didn't have them before. Call me a cynic but I am not sure cornwall got that much benefit from it as mostly its people who would have been already visiting cornwall going to visit.
Now if they had spent money extending the m5 downwards maybe more benefit
I think that's a bit astringent.
A million visitors a year generates a lot of economic activity for all the other sectors.
It’s simplistic. You have Eden, Heligan and Caerhays close to each other. They generate value tourism (ie not the sort of people who bring their own caravans and cheese). Confession - I’ve done some work on Eden’s financings. They are not quite hand to mouth but not a million miles away.
Precisely those people were largely already comining, it also doesnt really help the inhabitants much as most of the jobs generated last for 12 to 16 weeks a year then you go back on uc till next season.
I don't know about that. Don't underestimate the attraction of such things. When I had a hols in Cornwall some years back it was precisely the National Maritime Museum at Falmouth which was a key attractant for my yachtie friend and me - even if Pendennis Castle and Charlestown were there anyway. We stayed in a hotel, ate in local pubs/restaurants, and spent some money in the 2/hand bookshop.
The issue is perhaps rather whether there was a limited capacity anyway for such spendthrifts as us (as opposed to the caravan and tins types).
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
As people have said here, the goalposts keep shifting.
I really hope somebody asks them to state their mid case assumption when they laid out the road map and explain why the situation now is worse. It won’t wash to claim the road map was based on “best case” scenarios, let alone better than best case ones.
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
Sensible move from the govt.
They’re right to ignore the huffing and puffing from the majority on PB.
So many on here don’t care about responsible government.
Governments don't care about responsible government.
fpt about SKS being doomed because he is a remainer.
Not to say he isn't and I've no idea after the bollocks that the EU indulged in over the vaccines/Ireland, etc what the overall public view is, but do we expect every politician to fall in behind the policies of the winner of the election they've just lost?
Should Lab win in 2024 (don't laugh) will the Cons adopt all the Lab policies because the public has spoken?
Not just because he was a Remainer, but because he actively tried to overturn the referendum result when he was Labour’s Brexit Sec. Politicians who campaigned for Remain but accepted the result and voted to enable Brexit rather than refusing to have it are a different kettle of fish
If he campaigned to do that presumably that was because he believed there was a constituency which was receptive to that. Not a large enough one, it turned out, but as a political strategy it is perfectly rational, if unsuccessful to date.
Yeah he can do what he likes, but I think him doing so is a big reason he’s polling the same as Corbyn personally, and his party worse than Jez’s worst election/losing safe Labour seats in by elections
If it's his Remainerdom that's the problem how come his polling used to be quite good?
Well almost half the country did vote Remain so he was entitled to get an easy ride at the start in polls. But in the Red Wall Leave seats he is doomed. And at 65% of constituencies voted Leave, he is double doomed
Then, add in the fact he is dull as ditchwater, and it’s triple doomage!
It's the Remain point that doesn't make sense. He was polling well generally as recently as 6 months ago. Have Leavers suddenly noticed that he used to be an arch Remainer? I know they're not the most astute of units but, no, this seems unlikely.
It does make sense, because he was doomed even when he was polling better than he is now, due to 65% of constituencies voting leave, and him being the arch Remainer responsible for the ‘people’s vote’ and the loss of the Red Wall.
In a nutshell, I doubt it was Leave voters responsible for his previously good polling
He was polling quite well generally. Across all the main divides and metrics.
Was he? I didn’t know that. I will obviously check and confirm/dispute
In his first Opinium poll he scored
51-4 with Remainers 22-13 with Leavers
Latest Opinium
36-35 with Remainers 17-53 with Leavers
Losing popularity pretty evenly really
Yep. Therefore the problem is not that he's a Remainer. There's no change there. He was. He is.
The slump is due to other stuff. Pandemic. Vaccines. Being dull compared to the MMM. Not opposing enough. Whatever.
This is my point.
Oh yes, I agree - the SLUMP is due to other stuff. My point was that he was doomed with Leavers from the off
But that's not what the data says. His composite ratings 6 months ago were good enough to contend. He doesn't need to win the Leave demos for that. He just needs to be not in the toilet with them. Which he is now. But he wasn't. And that delta is not explained by him being a high profile Remainer. This is my precise and only point.
Where is the data that says he was ever popular with Leavers? He has taken Labour backwards in Hartlepool, why would that be?
Wouldn't Labour be better off with a leader that wasn't written off at first sight by Leave voters, given they aren't going to campaign to rejoin?
It not about the bloody infections. Gaaaaah! I have had enough of these bastards.
Steve Baker should launch a leadership challenge. Enough is enough.
I think there is only one man that would cause me to leave the Conservative party if he were leader. That'd be Steve Baker. (Williamson comes very close)
I’m assuming you mean “vaguely plausible candidate...”?
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
I left where I grew up and moved somewhere better. It’s hardly abnormal.
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
Mrs Foxy's cousins on the IoW have the same grievance. All but one are on the mainland now.
To an extent the same is similar across "left behind areas" everywhere. The opportunities for the young are via the universities in the big cities. The simple pleasures of small town life pale in comparison, at least until thirty something.
Twas ever so, I suppose. My grandparents left small towns to move to the big city, my folks left Wigan, and I in turn left Winchester for the bright lights of London, and Fox jr2 has left Leicester for London.
LD stronghold and rally point.
All they need is a minor Royal, and they'll be off. Admittedly no-one will notice the onset of these hostilities.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Millions of younger people unvaccinated... At one point the thinking in Govt was that vaccines wouldn’t extend below 50 year olds.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
RESIGNATION OF THOSE WHO ALLOWED TRAVEL FROM INDIA
Am I the only person on here who thinks that there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' now, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
And so vaccinations are not really about safety, are they? they are a control tool. And that's why I am not taking one.
In what sense a control tool? I don't think you're one of the QAnon people who think it's injecting some literal form of control by Soros and Gates, but I'm genuinely not sure what you mean? I've had both vaccinations - in what way am I now being controlled?
Would voters have been so compliant and patient with the government in the depths of winter of it were not for vaccines and the promise of freedom?
100% no. The government would have faced some extremely serious order problems if they said restrictions would be the status quo for ever.
Now we find out that, the vaccines notwithstanding, restrictions could STILL be the status quo for ever.
Ergo, the vaccines were, at least partly, a control tool.
Absolutely the govt used the vaccines to sell lockdown 3 and gain peoples compliance
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
They'll prevaricate until they've finished double-vaxxing the whole adult population Then declare that's insufficient, and all the secondary school kids need doing - twice Then they'll keep everybody locked up anyway because there are too many anti-vaxxers They'll also decide that the olds all need boosters We are therefore going to be living like this forever. Might as well fucking give up
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
Mrs Foxy's cousins on the IoW have the same grievance. All but one are on the mainland now.
To an extent the same is similar across "left behind areas" everywhere. The opportunities for the young are via the universities in the big cities. The simple pleasures of small town life pale in comparison, at least until thirty something.
Twas ever so, I suppose. My grandparents left small towns to move to the big city, my folks left Wigan, and I in turn left Winchester for the bright lights of London, and Fox jr2 has left Leicester for London.
LD stronghold and rally point.
All they need is a minor Royal, and they'll be off. Admittedly no-one will notice the onset of these hostilities.
This chap would have been ideal for Wight - dinosaurs and all that. Shame he's extinct.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
If true, then exactly as some on here predicted last year. The Government fucked up its response to previous waves by prevaricating, and is now fucking up its response to this one through overcompensation. It shits the bed every single time.
And if there's no absolute promise that this will end on July 5th, or July 19th, or whatever date they pluck out of thin air, then precisely no-one will trust them not to delay again and write off the entire Summer. Because they almost certainly will.
The UK's scientific establishment has shown itself to be as deeply mediocre as the rest of the UK's establishment.
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions in Britain but its reinvention as a middle-class holiday resort is miraculous.
Brand “Cornwall” is highly valuable. It also seems to have attracted quite a few digital entrepreneur types; I think the broadband is good.
I guess the issue is in the former mining towns in-land. Not sure what to do about those.
Space-tech is interesting, and the Camborne School of Mines is still a thing.
Abd despite it having that brand it still is one of the poorest regions in Britain....odd that. So they give us another bloody tourist attraction to level us up because the others worked out so well
You seem to be a professional misanthrope. Some regions would kill for some of Cornwall’s tourist money.
Supporting where you come from is now misanthroptic?
It is when you grizzle about people coming to visit and spend a bit a money in your otherwise deprived home.
I grizzle because kids shouldn't be leaving school and having to choose between moving away or only being in work 3 to 4 months a year because they can't find work down there because its all bloody tourist industry
Mrs Foxy's cousins on the IoW have the same grievance. All but one are on the mainland now.
To an extent the same is similar across "left behind areas" everywhere. The opportunities for the young are via the universities in the big cities. The simple pleasures of small town life pale in comparison, at least until thirty something.
Twas ever so, I suppose. My grandparents left small towns to move to the big city, my folks left Wigan, and I in turn left Winchester for the bright lights of London, and Fox jr2 has left Leicester for London.
I grew up though when only 1 in 10 went to university and what full time jobs there were all required a few years experience to apply. So I left. I don't mind there being tourism as well but just having tourism hollows out an area and saying you are levelling up has to be full time jobs for the whole year.
In addition I know in the town I grew up in most of the tourist shops didnt have local owners but instead the owners would travel down from london just before the season hire a manager and the workers they need paying them as little as possible. Then disappear till just after the season. The shops may have generated profit which counted as the cornish economy but most of that money then went back up north with the owner.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Hopefully bicycles, windbreaks, canal vaulting, and bog snorkelling. Or it could be cover the county with 10 more Thanet Earths to grow all our tomatoes here.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
I think those are all fair points - there is very little *unnecessary* in the design, and thorough use of all the space in the volume. Which makes storage and extra growth potential difficult. I looked at a 4 bed and 3 bed designs. A couple had a big cupboard under the stairs.
In a living space, for example, you would need your sofa against the wall rather than having an extra 1.2m behind the sofa for a bookshelf, as that 1.2m would add more value as most of an eating space in the kitchen-diner next door.
One of the comments I made back was that "my relative looking for a house" would likely want spaces for dishwasher, washer, and tumble dryer - whilst there was only a single appliance space. And only one design has a utility. Everyone would definitely need a shed, or do the traditional dedication of garage to storage.
The one below is the most conventional in layout. In a couple of the others there were eg staircases exposed to living area - which gives a perception of extra space, and saves the need to build one stair wall.
And so vaccinations are not really about safety, are they? they are a control tool. And that's why I am not taking one.
In what sense a control tool? I don't think you're one of the QAnon people who think it's injecting some literal form of control by Soros and Gates, but I'm genuinely not sure what you mean? I've had both vaccinations - in what way am I now being controlled?
Would voters have been so compliant and patient with the government in the depths of winter of it were not for vaccines and the promise of freedom?
100% no. The government would have faced some extremely serious order problems if they said restrictions would be the status quo for ever.
Now we find out that, the vaccines notwithstanding, restrictions could STILL be the status quo for ever.
Ergo, the vaccines were, at least partly, a control tool.
Absolutely the govt used the vaccines to sell lockdown 3 and gain peoples compliance
They'll also use them to sell lockdowns 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12.
"Just one more push. We mustn't jeopardise all the sacrifices we've made."
Am I the only person on here who thinks that there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' now, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
sure maybe your not bothered about businesses clinging on by their fingertips, or young people not being able to socialise properly or foreign travel being a pain in the backside if its even possible. But others are
The thing is that to announce a delay, without any reversing of restrictions, the Govt is going to somehow have to come up with a model that simultaneously shows very few people being hospitalised/dying as well as thousands hospitalised/dying. Because there ain’t no way current restrictions are providing any sort of meaningful barrier to rising infections. The barrier is the vaccines. Which will exist whether we ease restrictions further or not.
Am I the only person on here who thinks there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' at the moment, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good.
I agree with you. I go down the pub with my mates, out for a meal with my girlfriend, I take my son to the cafe. My family are round here, I go to their's. I play football on a Saturday for my team. We are going for a break to a hotel next month, my parents are away next week - We are coming out of a pandemic, a situation like never before. Apart from a couple of anti vaxx nutters I know, who also thought Biden stole the Presidency,no one seems thjat bothered. If everything was thrown open, most people would still tread very carefully
In France you get fined for not being indoors between 11pm and 6am.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
Precisely. But don’t say it too loud, Johnson might hear you.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
FFS this is insane.
99% of deaths come from JCVI Groups 1-9
Double-vaccination is 99% effective.
JCVI Groups 1-9 have been double-vaccinated.
End this shit now.
But don't you understand? We have to keep a handful of 32 year olds from needing to spend a precautionary one night stay to get a bit of oxygen, or else the hospitals will burn and everyone will die horribly. And if you don't believe that then you hate the NHS and should be guillotined.
A horrible journey today to Woking and Guildford - a "major track circuit failure" left me sitting on a train for over an hour between Raynes Park and New Malden.
Perhaps a reminder before we start embarking on fantastic new rail lines and infrastructure projects, the current stuff needs sorting out.
Anyway, on the way back, the train calls at all stations between Woking and Surbiton so at Weybridge on pile a large number of teenage children from Chertsey School.
Probably no more than 10% wearing masks and no social distancing and it was at that point the sheer illogicality and stupidity of the situation hit me like a Louisville Slugger on a tail light (thank you Carrie Underwood).
There I am, doubly vaccinated and probably immune but wearing a mask and there they were, unvaccinated and probably spreading the virus round, not wearing masks at all. Obviously, some of my fellow adult passengers might not have felt so sanguine.
I also had a rare insight into teenage behaviour in the 21st Century - I'm not sure whether I was relieved or disappointed teenagers now are exactly the same as teenagers were when I was one a long time ago. Not much sign of the so-called "woke revolution" if my small sample was any guide.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
FFS this is insane.
99% of deaths come from JCVI Groups 1-9
Double-vaccination is 99% effective.
JCVI Groups 1-9 have been double-vaccinated.
End this shit now.
What we are seeing is a third wave of cases running into a brick wall of the vaccinated. The millions who are unvaccinated are those who are at very little risk from Covid.
Incidentally some countries seem to be having higher death numbers than their new infections would suggest - even taking account the time lag.
I wonder how much testing might be getting done and wonder if some countries are more concerned about having a nice summer rather than discovering new infections.
Am I the only person on here who thinks that there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' now, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
Personally I feel very little normality in my life. There's plenty of things I could supposedly do nominally, but due to social distancing or restrictions on numbers they are either too much hassle, not practical, or basically just not so much fun (having lunch with a friend instead of a group of friends). I'm still working from home, still wearing masks everywhere, still not really going very far from home because there's limits to what you can do when you get there...
The only real normality I see is the return of decent-sized crowds to the sport on TV.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
While over 6 million doses are sitting in warehouse...
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
I don’t think it works like that.
Have you ever been there?
Not really.
I once went to Norwich to see “Super Furry Animals” at the UEA. Does that count?
East Anglia is relatively wealthy. There’s not really a “problem” to fix, is there (save Great Yarmouth)?
You get to study dinosaurs - that's where John McDonnell has his weekend bungalow.
If true, then exactly as some on here predicted last year. The Government fucked up its response to previous waves by prevaricating, and is now fucking up its response to this one through overcompensation. It shits the bed every single time.
And if there's no absolute promise that this will end on July 5th, or July 19th, or whatever date they pluck out of thin air, then precisely no-one will trust them not to delay again and write off the entire Summer. Because they almost certainly will.
The UK's scientific establishment has shown itself to be as deeply mediocre as the rest of the UK's establishment.
I'm reluctant to go in too hard on the likes of Whitty without hearing his direct justification for all this nonsense, but if he really is arguing that we have to delay because of the rise in infections then the following questions need to be asked:
1. You warned us that infections would rise when the punishments were repealed. If this was such a disaster then why did you advise repealing them? Why aren't we all still suffering the same lockdown we were in Winter? 2. Moreover, why aren't we spinning straight back into lockdown now?
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Hopefully bicycles, windbreaks, canal vaulting, and bog snorkelling. Or it could be cover the county with 10 more Thanet Earths to grow all our tomatoes here.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
I think those are all fair points - there is very little *unnecessary* in the design, and thorough use of all the space in the volume. Which makes storage and extra growth potential difficult. I looked at a 4 bed and 3 bed designs. A couple had a big cupboard under the stairs.
In a living space, for example, you would need your sofa against the wall rather than having an extra 1.2m behind the sofa for a bookshelf, as that 1.2m would add more value as most of an eating space in the kitchen-diner next door.
One of the comments I made back was that "my relative looking for a house" would likely want spaces for dishwasher, washer, and tumble dryer - whilst there was only a single appliance space. And only one design has a utility. Everyone would definitely need a shed, or do the traditional dedication of garage to storage.
The one below is the most conventional in layout. In a couple of the others there were eg staircases exposed to living area - which gives a perception of extra space, and saves the need to build one stair wall.
It does look a bit tight upstairs. Better to have 3 bedrooms of decent size imo. British houses are sold on number of bedrooms rather than per square metre.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
The argument (or hope) is that this new wave will not lead to overwhelming admissions or excessive deaths - as someone observed, the restrictions had kept R below 1 for the Alpha variant, but are not sufficient for this - so using the 4 weeks to get more jabs in arms (hello AZ stockpile) should be adequate.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
They'll prevaricate until they've finished double-vaxxing the whole adult population Then declare that's insufficient, and all the secondary school kids need doing - twice Then they'll keep everybody locked up anyway because there are too many anti-vaxxers They'll also decide that the olds all need boosters We are therefore going to be living like this forever. Might as well fucking give up
Honestly, this is making me reassess whether I want to stay in the UK at the moment. Italy might be chaos but at least it's a properly free country. The UK is run by busy body wankers.
Am I the only person on here who thinks that there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' now, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
Yes, I can’t travel to see my family abroad. I can’t travel to my employment abroad. I can’t go to a restaurant without a theatre of the absurd. I watch people queuing outside banks, and shops. I can’t go to a theatre.
I have people treating me like a credit card with a virus.
You may be happy with your lamentable so called life. I’m not a pathetic drone.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
Yes; the great thing about a building that has been up for a bit is that it hasn't fallen down yet so has form on the subject. Looking at how many new estates are build all I could say is that I am not convinced that they are going to stay up for long.
Good plan that.
Many people think the Romans were great builders. In fact they were often shit. Building collapses were a daily occurrence in ancient Rome. It's just all their crap has fallen down by now. What is left is the stuff where they over specified to reduce maintenance costs.
When I become UnDicator of Britain, high on the agenda is the 5 Metre Law. *All* rooms in domestic dwellings must be constructed with a minimum dimension in any direction of 5m. Enforced by placing the breakers of the law in a variable geometry room in the style of the Pit and the Pendulum.
GBNews to launch a radio channel to compete with the BBC
And no, I have no idea where the money is coming from
More likely to compete with LBC than the BBC.
The Telegraph gives more details of GBNews Radio, which it turns out will be just the audio feed from the television output. As I guessed, it sounds more like LBC than the BBC.
GB News, the right-leaning television network that launches on Sunday, will also be available on radio under plans announced on Friday.
Rather than be a separate station, it will be a simulcast of the audio from the TV broadcast, which will also be available online as well as Freeview, Sky, Virgin and Freesat.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
The logic doesn't break down. While It may spread widely given the current restrictions, it will surely spread even more widely without. So even doing nothing is better (from a purely epidemiological standpoint) than removing the restrictions.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
While over 6 million doses are sitting in warehouse...
When did society become so scared of accepting any level of risk - what's next ban us from motorbikes first followed by cars?
To be fair to politicians (not easy!) they know they will get blamed for any deaths so why would they not be risk adverse?
GBNews to launch a radio channel to compete with the BBC
And no, I have no idea where the money is coming from
More likely to compete with LBC than the BBC.
The Telegraph gives more details of GBNews Radio, which it turns out will be just the audio feed from the television output. As I guessed, it sounds more like LBC than the BBC.
GB News, the right-leaning television network that launches on Sunday, will also be available on radio under plans announced on Friday.
Rather than be a separate station, it will be a simulcast of the audio from the TV broadcast, which will also be available online as well as Freeview, Sky, Virgin and Freesat.
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Meaning there's no reason why it couldn't be an important commercial/tourism hub. Norwich used to be the second biggest city in England, and Great Yarmouth was in the top ten.
Wool & short run to Antwerp when sea travel was risky
But there is no reason why it shouldn’t develop although I struggle to see the attraction of Norfolk over Cambridge fir new development
If true, then exactly as some on here predicted last year. The Government fucked up its response to previous waves by prevaricating, and is now fucking up its response to this one through overcompensation. It shits the bed every single time.
And if there's no absolute promise that this will end on July 5th, or July 19th, or whatever date they pluck out of thin air, then precisely no-one will trust them not to delay again and write off the entire Summer. Because they almost certainly will.
That is what happens when you give governments totally unnecessary emergency powers. They feel obliged to use them to the maximum they can get away with.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
The logic doesn't break down. While It may spread widely given the current restrictions, it will surely spread even more widely without. So even doing nothing is better (from a purely epidemiological standpoint) than removing the restrictions.
True but if R is substantially above 1, the wave won't subside until it reaches a natural peak. I think there's possibly an argument for applying the original 'shielding' plan for those who are unvaccinated but in a vulnerable category.
It's that time of the week when I annoy some on here with the report of how the vaccination rollout is progressing in the London Borough of Newham.
Among those aged 30 or over (254,454 people according to NIMS), 137,277 (54%) have had one vaccination and of those 77,390 (30.4%) have had both.
Moving further into that data, among those aged 50 or over (88,387 according to NIMS), 64,669 (73.2%) have received a first vaccination and 50,688 (57.3%) have received both vaccinations.
Looking at it another way, 117,000 adults aged 30 and over in Newham have received no vaccination (it was over 120,000 last week so slow progress) and that includes just shy of 24,000 of over 50 year olds.
Newham is a "young" Borough (we have 85,549 under 16 and roughly 100,000 aged 16-29) and 13,431 of those under 30 have also received a first vaccination.
A horrible journey today to Woking and Guildford - a "major track circuit failure" left me sitting on a train for over an hour between Raynes Park and New Malden.
Perhaps a reminder before we start embarking on fantastic new rail lines and infrastructure projects, the current stuff needs sorting out.
Anyway, on the way back, the train calls at all stations between Woking and Surbiton so at Weybridge on pile a large number of teenage children from Chertsey School.
Probably no more than 10% wearing masks and no social distancing and it was at that point the sheer illogicality and stupidity of the situation hit me like a Louisville Slugger on a tail light (thank you Carrie Underwood).
There I am, doubly vaccinated and probably immune but wearing a mask and there they were, unvaccinated and probably spreading the virus round, not wearing masks at all. Obviously, some of my fellow adult passengers might not have felt so sanguine.
I also had a rare insight into teenage behaviour in the 21st Century - I'm not sure whether I was relieved or disappointed teenagers now are exactly the same as teenagers were when I was one a long time ago. Not much sign of the so-called "woke revolution" if my small sample was any guide.
Again, safety in numbers. If you're by yourself then, if there's a ticket inspector onboard, they'd probably threaten to throw you off if you don't wear your gag. If you're one of a group of about 40 kids then what are they going to do about it?
I guess I'm meant to feel all outraged by their thoughtlessness and disobedience to authority, but frankly I find it very hard to blame them. We've all absolutely had it with this fucking virus - and if the restrictions are just going to go on and on and on forever then there's no incentive left to keep following them, other than the threat of worse inconvenience or draconian punishments.
In fact, you could even argue that it's to the common good under those circumstances that the kids spread Covid about as much as possible. If the vaccines are never going to be enough to let us out of jail, then the only way this might finally come to an end is if everyone who's susceptible catches the disease and it peters out that way.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
The logic doesn't break down. While It may spread widely given the current restrictions, it will surely spread even more widely without. So even doing nothing is better (from a purely epidemiological standpoint) than removing the restrictions.
True but if R is substantially above 1, the wave won't subside until it reaches a natural peak. I think there's possibly an argument for applying the original 'shielding' plan for those who are unvaccinated but in a vulnerable category.
R will come down as more are vaccinated. It's just a case of buying enough time. Maybe staying at the current level buys enough time? I don't know, but it isn't illogical.
Am I the only person on here who thinks that there's very little that I can't do freely at the moment, that there isn't really a 'lockdown' now, and that all the talk about next week's decision is somewhat hyperbolic?
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
Yes, I can’t travel to see my family abroad. I can’t travel to my employment abroad. I can’t go to a restaurant without a theatre of the absurd. I watch people queuing outside banks, and shops. I can’t go to a theatre.
I have people treating me like a credit card with a virus.
You may be happy with your lamentable so called life. I’m not a pathetic drone.
Hope that helps.
I have a fabulous and very full life, thanks. No need to be so unpleasant.
I doubt Great Yarmouth or Skegness would be turning up their nose at Cornwall’s success.
Norfolk should be the Netherlands of the UK.
Means?
Hopefully bicycles, windbreaks, canal vaulting, and bog snorkelling. Or it could be cover the county with 10 more Thanet Earths to grow all our tomatoes here.
Interesting visit to the showhomes on a new local housing development. Fairly small - 120 houses on a couple of sloping fields preserving ancient hedges etc, with an acre of open space on the 10 acre site including a 2000sqm balancing pond, adjacent to a country park, and good connectivity. Long views over Derbyshire but over an industrial estate further down the hill.
They have apparently sold 30 since the spring, and is very popular - apparently releasing the last 4 a few days ago they had several thousand calls in the first hour.
Prices around £220/sqft - £238k for a compact but very efficiently laid out small 4 bed detached with 2 double / 2 single, one with ensuite, double garage. Interesting trend compared to previous decades to oblong rooms rather than square in kitchen, living and master bedroom, which allows two activity zones. Decent spec but not high end. Well laid-out estate - I specified the illustrative layout and took it through planning. Some obvious tight cost control - lightweight doors etc, but some pleasant modern version of estate fencing.
The company is a regional developer Gleeson who specialise in 'affordable homes for ordinary people'. I'm sure that somebody can find issues with them somewhere .
Give us the room sizes then. I, before buying my present (4 bedroomed Victorian terraced) house, looked round a couple of new developments and was shocked at how narrow the rooms were, how little storage space, how minuscule the gardens, and how cheap were things like the guttering and down pipes. One of them, my wife was actually leaving the place as I walked in while chatting to the staff member. I insisted on looking at it and I really, really, hated it. Not as much as her though. Our previous properties were all 1960s or earlier and at least looked like the walls wouldn’t fall down with a sparrows fart.
I'd never consider a new build. Far too many horror stories of shoebox rooms and shoddy construction.
I think those are all fair points - there is very little *unnecessary* in the design, and thorough use of all the space in the volume. Which makes storage and extra growth potential difficult. I looked at a 4 bed and 3 bed designs. A couple had a big cupboard under the stairs.
In a living space, for example, you would need your sofa against the wall rather than having an extra 1.2m behind the sofa for a bookshelf, as that 1.2m would add more value as most of an eating space in the kitchen-diner next door.
One of the comments I made back was that "my relative looking for a house" would likely want spaces for dishwasher, washer, and tumble dryer - whilst there was only a single appliance space. And only one design has a utility. Everyone would definitely need a shed, or do the traditional dedication of garage to storage.
The one below is the most conventional in layout. In a couple of the others there were eg staircases exposed to living area - which gives a perception of extra space, and saves the need to build one stair wall.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
Where that logic breaks down is that if we simply postpone and maintain the current level of openness, the new wave will still spread very rapidly, so what are we actually gaining? Either we need to suppress this wave or we don't.
The logic doesn't break down. While It may spread widely given the current restrictions, it will surely spread even more widely without. So even doing nothing is better (from a purely epidemiological standpoint) than removing the restrictions.
Not really, the R is above one with this level of restrictions as williamglenn has pointed out if they're worried about suppression then they'd have to roll back on the current level which is not possible.
Ultimately the scientists are trying to pursue a zero COVID strategy and the government wankers are buying their bullshit.
The sad part is that there's not a single MP that can ask the scientists the right questions point blank. The scientists have turned into politicians pushing political agendas without anyone voting for them. We're in rule by SAGE because the government is too incompetent and too scared to actually govern.
Question / thought....if we had followed a vaccine passport scheme like Israel would we be in a better situation / could.we.be moving to Step 4?
Has a Government IT project ever solved anything?
Anyway, the answer is clearly no. It would've done absolute naff all to contain Delta and we'd still be staring down the barrel of eternal lockdown today.
So, to conclude: • Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway • Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal • But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding • And still millions unvaccinated • Postponement seems the logical move
They'll prevaricate until they've finished double-vaxxing the whole adult population Then declare that's insufficient, and all the secondary school kids need doing - twice Then they'll keep everybody locked up anyway because there are too many anti-vaxxers They'll also decide that the olds all need boosters We are therefore going to be living like this forever. Might as well fucking give up
Honestly, this is making me reassess whether I want to stay in the UK at the moment. Italy might be chaos but at least it's a properly free country. The UK is run by busy body wankers.
Funnily enough I was just thinking that. I had a trip to the US and Mexico over the winter and the difference was noticeable. Coming back was quite a shock. Maybe it's time for a repeat?
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But, there are people in positions of authority who are desperate not to believe that vaccines are working.
NEW with @SarahNev: Boris Johnson set to delay lockdown easing in England by one month.
Chris Whitty, chief medical officer, has advised the PM that a four week delay is necessary to make a material difference to infections.
https://ft.com/content/fa7c25be-d3df-4edd-b86f-b86780b28f95 via
@financialtimes
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1403419553561026563?s=20
Boris Johnson 'plans to delay June 21 Freedom Day to July 19' after Britain records 8,125 Covid infections in highest daily count since FEBRUARY and hospital admissions rise by another 40% week-on-week
Infections in the UK have been rising steadily, driven by an explosion in cases caused by the Indian variant
A PHE report today revealed confirmed cases of the 'Delta' strain had tripled in a week to more than 42,000
The Prime Minister today said he was determined not to repeat 'mistakes' made earlier in the pandemic
By SAM BLANCHARD DEPUTY HEALTH EDITOR and JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:32, 11 June 2021 | UPDATED: 18:45, 11 June 2021
You can see the "NHS Winter Crisis" argument to keep on using masks forever coming from a mile away.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1403397062205624320
"Sun can reveal chances of freedom day on June 21 now next to zero.. plan to announce delay to July 19 - with break clause on July 5 if hospitalisations remain low. But it's not looking good.."
And here I was thinking in terms of deaths and hospitalizations we were actually in a better place than best case scenarios
Actually, they were only 80-1. And Scotland may be helped by having England in their group, but that's no use for the knockout stages.
OTOH it is only a tenner...
They’re right to ignore the huffing and puffing from the majority on PB.
So many on here don’t care about responsible government.
I once went to Norwich to see “Super Furry Animals” at the UEA. Does that count?
East Anglia is relatively wealthy. There’s not really a “problem” to fix, is there (save Great Yarmouth)?
Best to focus on 19 July.
We don't want Boris to look stupid!
But it isn't and they will not.
To an extent the same is similar across "left behind areas" everywhere. The opportunities for the young are via the universities in the big cities. The simple pleasures of small town life pale in comparison, at least until thirty something.
Twas ever so, I suppose. My grandparents left small towns to move to the big city, my folks left Wigan, and I in turn left Winchester for the bright lights of London, and Fox jr2 has left Leicester for London.
And if there's no absolute promise that this will end on July 5th, or July 19th, or whatever date they pluck out of thin air, then precisely no-one will trust them not to delay again and write off the entire Summer. Because they almost certainly will.
The issue is perhaps rather whether there was a limited capacity anyway for such spendthrifts as us (as opposed to the caravan and tins types).
I really hope somebody asks them to state their mid case assumption when they laid out the road map and explain why the situation now is worse. It won’t wash to claim the road map was based on “best case” scenarios, let alone better than best case ones.
Wouldn't Labour be better off with a leader that wasn't written off at first sight by Leave voters, given they aren't going to campaign to rejoin?
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1403423583641210880?s=20
So, to conclude:
• Third wave of hospital admissions clearly underway
• Data still suggest this wave should be less lethal
• But no clear sign yet of current wave subsiding
• And still millions unvaccinated
• Postponement seems the logical move
The thick, lazy and drug takers remained,
All they need is a minor Royal, and they'll be off. Admittedly no-one will notice the onset of these hostilities.
If we took backward steps, that would be problematic. But my 'freedom day' really came when the pubs and restaurants were open again for business. I'm not too bothered if the final handful of restrictions are delayed a bit for the greater good (and until a higher % are double-vaxxed).
Then declare that's insufficient, and all the secondary school kids need doing - twice
Then they'll keep everybody locked up anyway because there are too many anti-vaxxers
They'll also decide that the olds all need boosters
We are therefore going to be living like this forever. Might as well fucking give up
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/franz-nopcsa-the-dashing-baron-who-discovered-dwarf-dinosaurs.html
In addition I know in the town I grew up in most of the tourist shops didnt have local owners but instead the owners would travel down from london just before the season hire a manager and the workers they need paying them as little as possible. Then disappear till just after the season. The shops may have generated profit which counted as the cornish economy but most of that money then went back up north with the owner.
- 99% of deaths come from JCVI Groups 1-9
- Double-vaccination is 99% effective.
- JCVI Groups 1-9 have been double-vaccinated.
End this shit now.In a living space, for example, you would need your sofa against the wall rather than having an extra 1.2m behind the sofa for a bookshelf, as that 1.2m would add more value as most of an eating space in the kitchen-diner next door.
One of the comments I made back was that "my relative looking for a house" would likely want spaces for dishwasher, washer, and tumble dryer - whilst there was only a single appliance space. And only one design has a utility. Everyone would definitely need a shed, or do the traditional dedication of garage to storage.
The one below is the most conventional in layout. In a couple of the others there were eg staircases exposed to living area - which gives a perception of extra space, and saves the need to build one stair wall.
Here's the page on the 4 bed house type I was looking at:
https://gleesonhomes.co.uk/housestyles/cavan/
And the plan for the 4 bed.
"Just one more push. We mustn't jeopardise all the sacrifices we've made."
Scum.
GBNews to launch a radio channel to compete with the BBC
And no, I have no idea where the money is coming from
In France you get fined for not being indoors between 11pm and 6am.
https://twitter.com/FranceintheUK/status/1403426007512666116?s=20
It's quite a trek from Windsor to the Eden project!
A horrible journey today to Woking and Guildford - a "major track circuit failure" left me sitting on a train for over an hour between Raynes Park and New Malden.
Perhaps a reminder before we start embarking on fantastic new rail lines and infrastructure projects, the current stuff needs sorting out.
Anyway, on the way back, the train calls at all stations between Woking and Surbiton so at Weybridge on pile a large number of teenage children from Chertsey School.
Probably no more than 10% wearing masks and no social distancing and it was at that point the sheer illogicality and stupidity of the situation hit me like a Louisville Slugger on a tail light (thank you Carrie Underwood).
There I am, doubly vaccinated and probably immune but wearing a mask and there they were, unvaccinated and probably spreading the virus round, not wearing masks at all. Obviously, some of my fellow adult passengers might not have felt so sanguine.
I also had a rare insight into teenage behaviour in the 21st Century - I'm not sure whether I was relieved or disappointed teenagers now are exactly the same as teenagers were when I was one a long time ago. Not much sign of the so-called "woke revolution" if my small sample was any guide.
Whether it’ll be any good or not is a different question…
The government wants to keep UK as far down the 'leader board' as possible on the deaths list here:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Incidentally some countries seem to be having higher death numbers than their new infections would suggest - even taking account the time lag.
I wonder how much testing might be getting done and wonder if some countries are more concerned about having a nice summer rather than discovering new infections.
The only real normality I see is the return of decent-sized crowds to the sport on TV.
1. You warned us that infections would rise when the punishments were repealed. If this was such a disaster then why did you advise repealing them? Why aren't we all still suffering the same lockdown we were in Winter?
2. Moreover, why aren't we spinning straight back into lockdown now?
I have people treating me like a credit card with a virus.
You may be happy with your lamentable so called life. I’m not a pathetic drone.
Hope that helps.
Many people think the Romans were great builders. In fact they were often shit. Building collapses were a daily occurrence in ancient Rome. It's just all their crap has fallen down by now. What is left is the stuff where they over specified to reduce maintenance costs.
When I become UnDicator of Britain, high on the agenda is the 5 Metre Law. *All* rooms in domestic dwellings must be constructed with a minimum dimension in any direction of 5m. Enforced by placing the breakers of the law in a variable geometry room in the style of the Pit and the Pendulum.
GB News, the right-leaning television network that launches on Sunday, will also be available on radio under plans announced on Friday.
Rather than be a separate station, it will be a simulcast of the audio from the TV broadcast, which will also be available online as well as Freeview, Sky, Virgin and Freesat.
It is the first time that a TV channel has been simulcast on radio in Britain and could risk the station being labelled as "talk radio on TV" by critics.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/06/11/gb-news-launch-radio-station/ (£££)
ETA or maybe Times Radio, as @alex_ suggests.
To be fair to politicians (not easy!) they know they will get blamed for any deaths so why would they not be risk adverse?
Even the BBC has gone to web articles being the script of radio / TV news quite widely now.
But there is no reason why it shouldn’t develop although I struggle to see the attraction of Norfolk over Cambridge fir new development
Among those aged 30 or over (254,454 people according to NIMS), 137,277 (54%) have had one vaccination and of those 77,390 (30.4%) have had both.
Moving further into that data, among those aged 50 or over (88,387 according to NIMS), 64,669 (73.2%) have received a first vaccination and 50,688 (57.3%) have received both vaccinations.
Looking at it another way, 117,000 adults aged 30 and over in Newham have received no vaccination (it was over 120,000 last week so slow progress) and that includes just shy of 24,000 of over 50 year olds.
Newham is a "young" Borough (we have 85,549 under 16 and roughly 100,000 aged 16-29) and 13,431 of those under 30 have also received a first vaccination.
I guess I'm meant to feel all outraged by their thoughtlessness and disobedience to authority, but frankly I find it very hard to blame them. We've all absolutely had it with this fucking virus - and if the restrictions are just going to go on and on and on forever then there's no incentive left to keep following them, other than the threat of worse inconvenience or draconian punishments.
In fact, you could even argue that it's to the common good under those circumstances that the kids spread Covid about as much as possible. If the vaccines are never going to be enough to let us out of jail, then the only way this might finally come to an end is if everyone who's susceptible catches the disease and it peters out that way.
These data (from before they launched, admittedly) suggest that the BBC absolutely rules the airwaves in Britain:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/286892/uk-radio-stations-ranked-by-listeners-reached/
Ultimately the scientists are trying to pursue a zero COVID strategy and the government wankers are buying their bullshit.
The sad part is that there's not a single MP that can ask the scientists the right questions point blank. The scientists have turned into politicians pushing political agendas without anyone voting for them. We're in rule by SAGE because the government is too incompetent and too scared to actually govern.
Anyway, the answer is clearly no. It would've done absolute naff all to contain Delta and we'd still be staring down the barrel of eternal lockdown today.