Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
I think there's a strong case for making the Red Flag our national anthem. It's a great tune with some rousing lyrics, and who could object to its universal message of struggle and liberation?
The 68% of the UK electorate who did not vote for Corbyn in 2019.
If Islington and Liverpool want the Red Flag as their anthem, fine, the rest of us will stick to the present one
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
3398 in the 2016 census. Have they had a particularly bad plague?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
Is 37% fewer than the 55% who voted No to independence in 2014?
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
I think there's a strong case for making the Red Flag our national anthem. It's a great tune with some rousing lyrics, and who could object to its universal message of struggle and liberation?
Members of the mob that stormed the Capitol are telling police they felt President Trump told them to, potentially making him liable to criminal charges for incitement.
With more participants in the siege being arrested every day, explanations of their actions are emerging. One Kentucky man told the FBI that he went to Washington with his cousin and marched towards Congress because “President Trump said to do so”.
A retired Pennsylvania firefighter, charged with throwing a fire extinguisher at police, said he believed he was “instructed” to go to the Capitol by the president, according to court documents seen by The Washington Post.
Jenna Ryan, a Dallas estate agent charged with illegally entering the Capitol, begged Mr Trump for a pardon on local television. “I thought I was following my president,” she said.
“I thought I was following what we were called to do . . . He asked us to fly there. He asked us to be there. So I was doing what he asked us to do.”
The insistence that they were carrying out Mr Trump’s instructions could pose risks of criminal liability. Karl Racine, the Washington DC attorney-general, has said that he may charge those who addressed the crowd with incitement to violence. Mr Trump told them: “If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country any more.”
Other speakers under investigation by Mr Racine include Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer who called for “trial by combat”, and Donald Trump Jr, the president’s son, who implored them to “stand up and fight”.
The agitators’ explanations of their actions are certain to be brought up in Mr Trump’s impeachment trial as evidence that he incited the insurrection.
Forgive my ignorance, but can there be a class action for a defence?
I did see on twitter (albeit from a MAGA account) that Trump had effectively drafted these citizens and they carrying out the lawful orders of their Commander-in-Chief.
Maybe a class pardon?
It's not going to wash. Some of the people involved in the insurrection committed both federal and state crimes. Even if Trump pardons all of them it won't cover their state crimes. There may be further evidence that shows criminal intent before the Trump speech. In short, they might drag Trump down with them but Trump is not saving all those people even it he is so inclined.
D.C. isn't a state, so there were no state crimes committed during the insurrection.
Perhaps not during the insurrection, but in preparation for it, yes. If those acts were committed outside of DC.
IIRC crimes that cross state lines by their very nature become federal crimes.
If someone illegally manufactured an explosive device in Maryland, and transported it to Washington, and attempted to blow up the RNC HQ, then received a pardon for all Federal crimes, do you think Maryland would attempt a prosecution under state laws governing the manufacture and handling of explosives?
As an aside, have they even crossed a state line, since DC isn't a state?
In your example the dual sovereignty doctrine applies so they can, but the bar to show regards the attack on the Capitol saw a crime in the state before the actual insurrection is going to be a pretty high bar.
I was careful with the way I worded it: "[some] people involved in the insurrection committed both federal and state crimes", so as not to imply that I was only talking about the invasion of the Capitol. My point, I think, stands. Some people are in deep shit even if Trump tries to dig them out. In any case that's a fairly hefty if. Trump doesn't particularly like losers, and they failed in their insurrection. I don't think Trump's newly minted status as King of the Losers will change his mind. I wouldn't back it with my own money.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
Still say the G7 summit should NOT be held in Cornwall. Due to obvious dangers from crazed Cornish nationalists, random flash flooding, dodgy meat pasties, addlepated ex-tin miners and bumper-to-bumper from St Ives to the Shepherd's Bush Roundabout.
Instead, move the G7 to the splendid isolation of Rockall.
As gesture of world progress and European cooperation (or visa versa) make Rockall the permanent site of all future summits, under joint co-sponsorship AND - sovereignty of the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, Faroe Islands and the Audubon Society.
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
I think there's a strong case for making the Red Flag our national anthem. It's a great tune with some rousing lyrics, and who could object to its universal message of struggle and liberation?
That stuff about cowards and traitors has always struck me as a tacit admission that a really good secret police force is at the heart of the whole enterprise.
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
So? Could be Swing low, or whatever English rugger buggers sing in contrapuntion to Scots r. bs. belting out Flower of Scotland (not my favourite either).
It's a meaningless survey.
I think FOS is a pretty good tune.
But the Welsh national anthem (LOMF) is the best in these isles.
How about Flanders and Swann: “the English, the English, the English are best - I wouldn’t give tuppence for all of the rest”?
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
So? Could be Swing low, or whatever English rugger buggers sing in contrapuntion to Scots r. bs. belting out Flower of Scotland (not my favourite either).
It's a meaningless survey.
I think FOS is a pretty good tune.
But the Welsh national anthem (LOMF) is the best in these isles.
How about Flanders and Swann: “the English, the English, the English are best - I wouldn’t give tuppence for all of the rest”?
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
I think there's a strong case for making the Red Flag our national anthem. It's a great tune with some rousing lyrics, and who could object to its universal message of struggle and liberation?
That stuff about cowards and traitors has always struck me as a tacit admission that a really good secret police force is at the heart of the whole enterprise.
This verse might be a little wrong for a UK national anthem too,
Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze, The sturdy German chants its praise, In Moscow's vaults its hymns were sung Chicago swells the surging throng.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
The Thatcherite settlement included our integration into the single market, so I'm afraid it was ripped up by her acolytes.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?
Even a plurality of Scots like it, I highly doubt that would be the case if they thought it was Jerusalem rather than GSTQ
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.
Did we ever find out from HYUFD?
Scottish subsample KLAXON.
Regarding the UK national anthem, do you…?
Love it - 10%
Like it - 27%
Dislike it - 19%
Hate it - 25%
DK - 10%
So the figure is Love/Like is 37% v. 44% for dislike it/hate it.
I'm sure we're all shocked to learn that HYUFD was being disingenuous with a Scottish subsample.
So as I said the subsample shows a plurality of Scots like the National Anthem while only 44% of Scots dislike or hate it ie even fewer than the 45% of Scots who voted Yes to independence in 2014
I think there's a strong case for making the Red Flag our national anthem. It's a great tune with some rousing lyrics, and who could object to its universal message of struggle and liberation?
That stuff about cowards and traitors has always struck me as a tacit admission that a really good secret police force is at the heart of the whole enterprise.
This verse might be a little wrong for a UK national anthem too,
Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze, The sturdy German chants its praise, In Moscow's vaults its hymns were sung Chicago swells the surging throng.
On the other hand I can imagine this one being popular:
The Workin Class can kiss my arse, I've got the foreman's job at last; You're out of work and on the dole, You can stick the Red Flag up your 'ole.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
Slightly, if unintentionally, unfortunate wording in the context of spaffing, and of the discussion of national anthems.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
Also a number that would have looked good on a Routemaster.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
At least we'd have some money. This is the world created by those who have betrayed the blessed Margaret:
Still say the G7 summit should NOT be held in Cornwall. Due to obvious dangers from crazed Cornish nationalists, random flash flooding, dodgy meat pasties, addlepated ex-tin miners and bumper-to-bumper from St Ives to the Shepherd's Bush Roundabout.
Instead, move the G7 to the splendid isolation of Rockall.
As gesture of world progress and European cooperation (or visa versa) make Rockall the permanent site of all future summits, under joint co-sponsorship AND - sovereignty of the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, Faroe Islands and the Audubon Society.
Better still, Basingstoke. If no one has heard of the pandemic there, it must be the safest part of the country.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
A bit shorter than average I think, 5'8"
Wasn't coming forward as I wasn't online, but since you typed my name I saw it.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
Also a number that would have looked good on a Routemaster.
Fck yes that was my point. Let's not do something, let's give the money to the NHS instead is always a shit argument and a glaring fallacy.
Still say the G7 summit should NOT be held in Cornwall. Due to obvious dangers from crazed Cornish nationalists, random flash flooding, dodgy meat pasties, addlepated ex-tin miners and bumper-to-bumper from St Ives to the Shepherd's Bush Roundabout.
Instead, move the G7 to the splendid isolation of Rockall.
As gesture of world progress and European cooperation (or visa versa) make Rockall the permanent site of all future summits, under joint co-sponsorship AND - sovereignty of the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, Faroe Islands and the Audubon Society.
You couldn't fit a G2 on Rockall.
The elegant solution is to tell Trump he’s the US Representative, as the real winner of the election, then just get him to fly to Rockall.
And then arrange for the plane to have an unfortunate breakdown so he has to stay there.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
I'm not supporting the Argentine claim - to their undoubted chagrin - and I'm not disregarding the strength of feeling of the 2000 islanders, but there certainly is a dispute. You said there wasn't. I was correcting that.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Fauci says the US will do it in the coming weeks, and the EU is on track for February I think.
I was reading today that several EU countries are set to tell the EU to get on with it now that they've seen the scale of the UK roll out and complete lack of incidents but I expect the EMA to drag their feet in the "my regulator is more safe than yours" dick waving contest we seem to have got into. The Australian request to Pfizer is another example of that.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
BluestBlue hit the nail on the head. It is disputed in the same way as the 2020 US Presidential Election is disputed.
Argentina like Trump disputing reality. Argentina like Trump literally the face of modern fascism. Argentina like Trump rejecting democracy.
Why would you be anything other than 100% against the Trumpian dispute of Argentina? It is deplorable. You are taking the side (or both sides) with Trumpians. For shame.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
It is 1,543 km from Port Stanley to Buenos Aires.
It is only 463 km from London to Dublin.
On Kirchner's logic the UK government has a greater claim to Ireland than Argentina has to the Falkland Islands
Presumably she's also in favour of giving Argentina back to whatever Indians the Spanish stole it from.
Half the regulars on this site have spent the last few months gleefully rubbishing the Chinese vaccine based on nothing more than their distrust of China. Why would they not expect the opposite to occur in China?
Er...it crawled over the WHO 50% minimum efficacy on one metric. Relative to the others, it is rubbish, without any side dish of glee.
That was the new Sinovac vaccine, reported last week. There’s also another one called Sinopharm, which is good and has been rolling out in many countries already.
Even Sinovac:
50% effective at catching the disease 78% effective in stopping symptoms 100% effective in stopping moderate or severe symptoms
It works! Yet the reporting here is how dodgy it is.
It’s a bit of a dud by comparison to others we’ve seen, barely meeting the 50% WHO standard, but it’s still going to be a lot better than nothing if there’s a factory ready to make them in the millions.
I dont understand the hang up with efficacy, the whole point of them is to stop moderate to severe symptoms otherwise we would never bother with them. Fortunately as far as I have read, all the vaccines, including the Chinese ones are almost completely effective at achieving this.
Kate Bingham said last year she would be happy with a vaccine at 40% efficacy.
A vaccine which prevents people from getting it and spreading it better because it gives the virus much less opportunity to mutate and doesn't overload hospitals.
Sure, if there was unlimited supply it would be best to choose the best vaccine. The world is not in that situation and we should be encouraging countries to use what is available, things can be improved by 2022 and beyond. Any of the vaccines available, including the Chinese ones, are a massive scientific achievement and responsible people should be encouraging their use wherever the vaccines are from, not criticising them out of nationalistic prejudices or ignoring their existence as our govt did.
We have potentially have three vaccines that do that (Pfizer, Moderna and AZ have all shown signs of warding off the virus entirely, the latter on the 12 week dosing regime we've chosen). The world should be paying these companies to manufacture 15bn doses this year and next.
We're also likely to get positive J&J news this week, if Fauci is to be believed.
Hopefully it does the job with one dose, if it protects against infection it will become the defacto vaccine globally IMO.
Is it cheap to manufacture do we know? I recall that the AstraZeneca one is apparently pretty cost effective, and if it is a lot cheaper than the double Boris then it doesn't seem impossible those two are widespread, with some of the others by the posh people the latter is not quite so effective as, say, Pfizer.
But it will make the job so much easier it's worth quite a bit more cost I should think.
It's an adenovirus based jab so it has all the same ease of transport and storage as the AZ vaccine, the cost for a single dose is around the same as two AZ doses so it probably ends up significantly cheaper once you take into account storage, distribution and injecting people a second time.
Sounds like a tremendous achievement indeed, especially with the others going for a two shot in what was already a great achievement.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
It was 50-70%, and given that we're in a tough lockdown that produced an R of 0.4-0.6 in the immediate aftermath in March we're tracking about the same as that but with a higher R on the same measures.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
A bit shorter than average I think, 5'8"
Wasn't coming forward as I wasn't online, but since you typed my name I saw it.
You're always online.
And thanks. That's more like it. I have a bit on you but not much. We're both normal.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
I'm a short-arse. And a physicist, if it helps. Though I missed why we were establishing who the vertically challenged amongst us were?
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
No, I don't think so. Because it is R based on no restrictions.
As you introduce stricter and stricter restrictions you will decrease not just original base R but the 0.7 will come down too.
For everyone who stays at home not infecting anybody then it rather becomes immaterial what the R is, an increased percentage of nothing is still nothing.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
Also a number that would have looked good on a Routemaster.
Fck yes that was my point. Let's not do something, let's give the money to the NHS instead is always a shit argument and a glaring fallacy.
Well it's approx 1 in 20 according to @LostPassword. If your classes are consistently much taller than that there's something funny going on. A strong and positive correlation between physics and height. Guess it's possible.
I'm just under 6'1 (185 cm precisely), and slightly shorter than my other half, 99.955%ile apparently. My younger brother is slightly taller than me too.
I'm getting the impression that this is either a forum of above average height individuals or that posters who are not very tall are for some reason not coming forward.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
I'm 5ft 7. For my family that's above average.
I read a file once of a couple of a child where the dad was 6ft 7 and the mother 5ft 0, which must have been something to see. Poor mum was understandably having difficulty handling their early teenaged, behavioural problem beset 6ft + child.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
I'm not supporting the Argentine claim - to their undoubted chagrin - and I'm not disregarding the strength of feeling of the 2000 islanders, but there certainly is a dispute. You said there wasn't. I was correcting that.
Some "dispute".
Is the idea that Biden won the 2020 election "disputed" according to you?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
The Argentine argument is just so bizarre. Their entire country basically consists of a bunch of European settlers who have annexed some land thousands of miles from their homeland, yet they object so violently to the Falkland Islanders who have done exactly the same thing.
Argentinians are known to fellow South Americans as "Italians who speak Spanish and think they're British". How do you make your fortune in Argentina? Buy an Argentinian for what he's worth, and sell him for what he thinks he's worth....
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
Yes, though that doesn't make it a distraction. Borders are weird is all, trying to determine what's normal is fruitless.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
It was 50-70%, and given that we're in a tough lockdown that produced an R of 0.4-0.6 in the immediate aftermath in March we're tracking about the same as that but with a higher R on the same measures.
I don't think this lockdown is as tough as that in the spring.
In any case there was talk back in December that the new variant was so contagious that it would be impossible to get R below 1.
Instead infections are falling pretty fast, in particular in areas which were hardest hit in December.
The other possibility is that there is significant herd immunity acquired which is now having an effect locally.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
Have you met any? There is a reason soldiers called them Bennies. On being told to stop they called them Stills, because they were still Bennies.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
Certainly since they started later relatively slow starts wouldn't automatically mean they were doing very badly, given how things accelerate, though some are still clearly doing badly. But that's a bold tweet to say the least.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
BluestBlue hit the nail on the head. It is disputed in the same way as the 2020 US Presidential Election is disputed.
Argentina like Trump disputing reality. Argentina like Trump literally the face of modern fascism. Argentina like Trump rejecting democracy.
Why would you be anything other than 100% against the Trumpian dispute of Argentina? It is deplorable. You are taking the side (or both sides) with Trumpians. For shame.
The question of the ownership of the Falklands is one of international law.
What have you been repeatedly telling us recently about the non binding nature of international law?
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
No, I don't think so. Because it is R based on no restrictions.
As you introduce stricter and stricter restrictions you will decrease not just original base R but the 0.7 will come down too.
For everyone who stays at home not infecting anybody then it rather becomes immaterial what the R is, an increased percentage of nothing is still nothing.
This was the fear:
A return to a full March-style lockdown may not be enough to control the new coronavirus variant’s spread in England, Sage experts have suggested.
Minutes from the government advisory group’s meeting on 22 December reveal fears that the R rate may not drop – and remain – below one even with full lockdown and closure of all schools.
The experts concluded in comments published on Thursday: “It is not known whether measures with similar stringency and adherence as spring, with both primary and secondary schools closed, would be sufficient to bring R below one in the presence of the new variant.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
Bigjohnowls in favour of selling out the rights of a whole population just because they are a long way away.
Typical left winger?
Cant afford it, have some fiscal responsibility.
If they are that keen on being British get em over here picking fruit.
I have a better idea. Maybe we could sell you and your family instead. We must be able to get something for you. Not much I would grant you but something?
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
It is 1,543 km from Port Stanley to Buenos Aires.
It is only 463 km from London to Dublin.
On Kirchner's logic the UK government has a greater claim to Ireland than Argentina has to the Falkland Islands
Presumably she's also in favour of giving Argentina back to whatever Indians the Spanish stole it from.
Sadly, the Patagonians were exterminated in the 19th century.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
No. But it's unhelpful whataboutery. It doesn't impact the point I'm making. Sorry - that I've made. You either feel the way I do or you don't. And if you don't you have a brainwashed colonial mindset. That's not a problem. People can still have a good life with that.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
Lol, I seem to remember our own twitter bot sharing that multiple times last year, especially when we refused the EU programme. Honestly, these people have no credibility, a long period of silence would be welcome.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
I’ve never believed it was as simple as adding 0.7 to the existing rate. Far more complex to interpret.
That's a sensible and rational viewpoint.
I think the problem was it was the government scientists standing up and saying that the new variant could add as much as 0.7 on to the existing rate. Maybe they genuinely thought that, or maybe it was a neat way to express to joe-not-statistically-minded-public what the new variant *could* mean.
Or maybe it was just a handy political tool to get some more restrictions in because in they were needed anyway as infections were increasingly fairly rapidly with the old variant, and admitting that the lockdown had been delayed or botched (along with the Christmas will-they-won't-they debacle) was something to be avoided, so hey, new variant is massively more infectious was a handy narrative tool.
To be honest I've slowly come to the point of view that the virus does what it sodding well wants, when it wants. I'm sure the distancing stuff we do helps that but it doesn't always seem to react as predictably as you might think. Some of the geographic variation in particular has just been a bit bemusing.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
It was 50-70%, and given that we're in a tough lockdown that produced an R of 0.4-0.6 in the immediate aftermath in March we're tracking about the same as that but with a higher R on the same measures.
I don't think this lockdown is as tough as that in the spring.
In any case there was talk back in December that the new variant was so contagious that it would be impossible to get R below 1.
Instead infections are falling pretty fast, in particular in areas which were hardest hit in December.
The other possibility is that there is significant herd immunity acquired which is now having an effect locally.
About 10% of all adults have been vaccinated now too.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
Isn't that just actually pointing out that everyone should have started 20 days earlier, like we did?
Indeed.
Plus the UK has escalated its rollout as supply has come through and is escalating faster and faster, Denmark appear to have blitzed through their initial vaccine allocation since they started three weeks late, then plateaued as they wait for more stock.
There is no way even with that dodgy premise that after say 6 to 8 weeks post authorisation the colours will be like that.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
Have you met any? There is a reason soldiers called them Bennies. On being told to stop they called them Stills, because they were still Bennies.
I have a patient who normally summers in Leics, and (Northern hemisphere) winters on West Falkland where he has a farm. He likes the peace and quiet there, though finds the 50 mile drive to the nearest shop a little tiresome.
He says there is quite a significant immigrant population now, particularly Filipinos who work the fishing boats.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
No, I don't think so. Because it is R based on no restrictions.
As you introduce stricter and stricter restrictions you will decrease not just original base R but the 0.7 will come down too.
For everyone who stays at home not infecting anybody then it rather becomes immaterial what the R is, an increased percentage of nothing is still nothing.
This was the fear:
A return to a full March-style lockdown may not be enough to control the new coronavirus variant’s spread in England, Sage experts have suggested.
Minutes from the government advisory group’s meeting on 22 December reveal fears that the R rate may not drop – and remain – below one even with full lockdown and closure of all schools.
The experts concluded in comments published on Thursday: “It is not known whether measures with similar stringency and adherence as spring, with both primary and secondary schools closed, would be sufficient to bring R below one in the presence of the new variant.
Given the steady fall in new infections it seems that the new variant is nowhere near as bad as the initial fears were.
That journalists word "may" appears prominantly there.
Just because something "may not" and it is "not known" doesn't mean it is expected that it would be above 1 even with a full lockdown, just that it is possible.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
It was 50-70%, and given that we're in a tough lockdown that produced an R of 0.4-0.6 in the immediate aftermath in March we're tracking about the same as that but with a higher R on the same measures.
I don't think this lockdown is as tough as that in the spring.
In any case there was talk back in December that the new variant was so contagious that it would be impossible to get R below 1.
Instead infections are falling pretty fast, in particular in areas which were hardest hit in December.
The other possibility is that there is significant herd immunity acquired which is now having an effect locally.
About 10% of all adults have been vaccinated now too.
That should start to have an effect next week in the new infections number.
Hopefully it will lead to R reducing at an increasing speed.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
No. But it's unhelpful whataboutery. It doesn't impact the point I'm making. Sorry - that I've made. You either feel the way I do or you don't. And if you don't you have a brainwashed colonial mindset. That's not a problem. People can still have a good life with that.
But anyway, not to go on. CYL.
No you have the brainwashed colonial mindset. I feel sorry for you. You are literally in bed with Trump.
One day you'll get past the MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again) "dispute" lies and wonder what you were ever thinking.
Couple of years I went to the Iguazu Falls, on the border of Argentine and Brazil. They are absolutely magnificent, far more spectacular than Victoria Falls, Niagara, and so on. One of THE great natural wonders of the world.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
BluestBlue hit the nail on the head. It is disputed in the same way as the 2020 US Presidential Election is disputed.
Argentina like Trump disputing reality. Argentina like Trump literally the face of modern fascism. Argentina like Trump rejecting democracy.
Why would you be anything other than 100% against the Trumpian dispute of Argentina? It is deplorable. You are taking the side (or both sides) with Trumpians. For shame.
The question of the ownership of the Falklands is one of international law.
What have you been repeatedly telling us recently about the non binding nature of international law?
That domestic law is more important. If the domestic people living on the islands want to change their sovereignty I respect that. Its called self-determination.
Couple of years I went to the Iguazu Falls, on the border of Argentine and Brazil. They are absolutely magnificent, far more spectacular than Victoria Falls, Niagara, and so on. One of THE great natural wonders of the world.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
Argentina is a useful object lesson in how nationalistic populism impoverished a country. From a land of proverbial wealth in the 1920s to now.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
No. But it's unhelpful whataboutery. It doesn't impact the point I'm making. Sorry - that I've made. You either feel the way I do or you don't. And if you don't you have a brainwashed colonial mindset. That's not a problem. People can still have a good life with that.
But anyway, not to go on. CYL.
No you have the brainwashed colonial mindset. I feel sorry for you. You are literally in bed with Trump.
One day you'll get past the MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again) "dispute" lies and wonder what you were ever thinking.
"You are literally in bed with Trump." Literally literally?
Italy and Germany have made good progress. I saw this little map early, that would make even a Lib Dem blush, but there is a grain of truth in it. Since authorisation, most European countries seem to have got a move on:
Isn't that just actually pointing out that everyone should have started 20 days earlier, like we did?
Indeed.
Plus the UK has escalated its rollout as supply has come through and is escalating faster and faster, Denmark appear to have blitzed through their initial vaccine allocation since they started three weeks late, then plateaued as they wait for more stock.
There is no way even with that dodgy premise that after say 6 to 8 weeks post authorisation the colours will be like that.
The UK programme was also contending with Christmas during the first 20 days, but tbf, the initial rollout was quite slow here and that visualisation does tell that story well. It was at day 30 when it really took off here at day 40 (tomorrow's data) we'll be at close to 6.5 or 6.6% of people having had at least one jab and adding around 0.7-0.9% per day.
Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.
Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were "unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news".
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
No. But it's unhelpful whataboutery. It doesn't impact the point I'm making. Sorry - that I've made. You either feel the way I do or you don't. And if you don't you have a brainwashed colonial mindset. That's not a problem. People can still have a good life with that.
But anyway, not to go on. CYL.
And if that feeling leads someone to support Argentinian colonialism based on a vague sense that it is less odd, how would you characterise their thought process?
Couple of years I went to the Iguazu Falls, on the border of Argentine and Brazil. They are absolutely magnificent, far more spectacular than Victoria Falls, Niagara, and so on. One of THE great natural wonders of the world.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
I like that, but it's not very anthemic. Gstq is easy to sing in tuneishly even for people like me. The Argie version needs opera level skill.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
It is 1,543 km from Port Stanley to Buenos Aires.
It is only 463 km from London to Dublin.
On Kirchner's logic the UK government has a greater claim to Ireland than Argentina has to the Falkland Islands
Presumably she's also in favour of giving Argentina back to whatever Indians the Spanish stole it from.
Sadly, the Patagonians were exterminated in the 19th century.
Given the steady fall in infections doesn't this disprove the claims that the new variant increased R by up to 0.7 ?
No, I don't think so. Because it is R based on no restrictions.
As you introduce stricter and stricter restrictions you will decrease not just original base R but the 0.7 will come down too.
For everyone who stays at home not infecting anybody then it rather becomes immaterial what the R is, an increased percentage of nothing is still nothing.
This was the fear:
A return to a full March-style lockdown may not be enough to control the new coronavirus variant’s spread in England, Sage experts have suggested.
Minutes from the government advisory group’s meeting on 22 December reveal fears that the R rate may not drop – and remain – below one even with full lockdown and closure of all schools.
The experts concluded in comments published on Thursday: “It is not known whether measures with similar stringency and adherence as spring, with both primary and secondary schools closed, would be sufficient to bring R below one in the presence of the new variant.
Given the steady fall in new infections it seems that the new variant is nowhere near as bad as the initial fears were.
And another:
It feels like we are back in March or April last year, when the strict controls on all our lives led to a fairly quick decline in levels of coronavirus.
But one of the crucial differences this time is the new variant, which is thought to spread between 50 and 70% faster than previous forms of the virus.
Experts warn there are now no guarantees that lockdown will be enough to bring the variant under control.
"It still would not have been easy, but it would have been a much easier situation if it had not been for the new variant," Prof Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, told Inside Health.
"That really pushes the bounds of our ability to control the spread of the virus, even with measures that were previously relatively quite effective."
...
And that assumes lockdown can get R down to 0.9 in areas where the new variant has become the most common form of the virus.
If, as some studies suggest, the variant is about 70% more transmissible then R may stay above 1.0 and cases may not fall at all.
"We'd at best flatten the curve, keep numbers at a roughly constant level, and that's frankly why there is so much emphasis on getting vaccine into people's arms as quickly as possible," said Prof Ferguson.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There’s a stronger case for St Pierre and Miquelon to be given to Canada.
That's a new one on me. Will google and see if I can glean a wafer thin understanding that is nevertheless sufficient to opine.
The French kept St Pierre and Miquelon in order to keep a share of the Canadian fisheries, I believe.
Ah the French. I see. Thanks. I'll pass then. A distraction.
Why is it a distraction? Do they have a licence to be odd?
No. But it's unhelpful whataboutery. It doesn't impact the point I'm making. Sorry - that I've made. You either feel the way I do or you don't. And if you don't you have a brainwashed colonial mindset. That's not a problem. People can still have a good life with that.
But anyway, not to go on. CYL.
No you have the brainwashed colonial mindset. I feel sorry for you. You are literally in bed with Trump.
One day you'll get past the MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again) "dispute" lies and wonder what you were ever thinking.
"You are literally in bed with Trump." Literally literally?
He might be. I think we should know. Going by @kinabalu posts he doesn't seem to be getting on with his bedfellow.
Couple of years I went to the Iguazu Falls, on the border of Argentine and Brazil. They are absolutely magnificent, far more spectacular than Victoria Falls, Niagara, and so on. One of THE great natural wonders of the world.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
I like that, but it's not very anthemic. Gstq is easy to sing in tuneishly even for people like me. The Argie version needs opera level skill.
I went to Foz from the Brazilian side, but did cross over into Argentina, to be met at the border with a huge billboard stating Las Islas Malvinas son Argentinas. This was in 1990, so some 8 years after the war.
Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.
Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were "unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news".
As a former Hampshire resident, I would point out that your link refers specifically to residents of the town of Basingstoke.
I grew up “south of Newbury” rather than “near Basingstoke”
Much as it is fun to be snobbish about Basingstoke, and other London overspill towns created postwar, the New Town movement was a more positive way of tackling a housing crisis.
This is quite a thoughtful documentary on a New Town, and well worth a watch:
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
At least we'd have some money. This is the world created by those who have betrayed the blessed Margaret:
Edit: it's about how it's become impossible to import wine sanely and efficiently into the UK, sorry GB.
Ale and mead it is, I'm afraid.
Given that much of the best wine in the world is now being made in Oz, NZ, SA, Chile, Argentina (!), even the USA, I don't think we have to worry too much.
And English Fizz is now as good as first class champagne, if not quite at serious vintage champagne levels, yet. We shall endure.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
BluestBlue hit the nail on the head. It is disputed in the same way as the 2020 US Presidential Election is disputed.
Argentina like Trump disputing reality. Argentina like Trump literally the face of modern fascism. Argentina like Trump rejecting democracy.
Why would you be anything other than 100% against the Trumpian dispute of Argentina? It is deplorable. You are taking the side (or both sides) with Trumpians. For shame.
The question of the ownership of the Falklands is one of international law.
What have you been repeatedly telling us recently about the non binding nature of international law?
That domestic law is more important. If the domestic people living on the islands want to change their sovereignty I respect that. Its called self-determination.
Do you?
No, it's a factor in some situations. Thatcher latched on to it as a face saving exercise, probably before you were born, and you have elevated it to a status where to question it is equivalent to endorsing paedophilia cannibalism. It is a principle universally ignored when the situation demands it. Heard of Yalta?
Say the inhabitants of Unst vote to become part of China. What happens next?
Couple of years I went to the Iguazu Falls, on the border of Argentine and Brazil. They are absolutely magnificent, far more spectacular than Victoria Falls, Niagara, and so on. One of THE great natural wonders of the world.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
Argentina is a useful object lesson in how nationalistic populism impoverished a country. From a land of proverbial wealth in the 1920s to now.
Perhaps they should have allowed British investors to keep running the country
Meanwhile the rest of Latin America is such a collection of success.
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
At least we'd have some money. This is the world created by those who have betrayed the blessed Margaret:
Edit: it's about how it's become impossible to import wine sanely and efficiently into the UK, sorry GB.
Ale and mead it is, I'm afraid.
Given that much of the best wine in the world is now being made in Oz, NZ, SA, Chile, Argentina (!), even the USA, I don't think we have to worry too much.
And English Fizz is now as good as first class champagne, if not quite at serious vintage champagne levels, yet. We shall endure.
It also makes no sense because we import wine from all of those countries mentioned without very many issues. What mechanism are importers of those wines using that the importers of European wines are finding impossible to use, could it be simple incompetence?
I see that, while PB has spent the day frothing about the Falklands, the govt has been asked to help bailout Eurostar.
Those joke memes of a bricked up Chunnel might turn out to be true after all.
All I said was that I found our Falklands dominion "a bit odd". The frothing was a big surprise to me. Lessons learnt.
What's the argument for the Falklands remaining under British control?
Well the gist is 'cos that's what the islanders want." Fine, but as I was explaining this does not make it seem to me any less odd - and a little bit wrong - that Britain still has these hangover colonial possessions. I'm for agreeing some sort of compromise to resolve the sovereignty dispute. Will happen one day, I'd imagine.
There's a 'dispute' over the sovereignty of the Falklands in the same way that there's a 'dispute' over the winner of the US presidential election. We already did our healing with Argentina some time ago, I believe.
I'm afraid there is a dispute. It's disputed. 1982 settled it for a while - since winners of wars must have prizes - but not for good. I think something will be agreed in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken.
In 2013, 99.8% of the voters of the Falklands answered 'Yes' to the following question, on a 92% turnout:
'Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?'
It's scarcely possible to imagine a more decisive democratic mandate. To dispute it is much, much worse than Trumpian.
Tell that to Kirchner who said, "It is as if a consortium of squatters had voted on whether to continue illegally occupying a building."
Kirchner, you say? That sounds like a good old indigenous South American name, so I'm sure she knows all about squatting.
Bluest Blue in favour of spaffing money at a population of 2840.
Typical Tory spaffer
And they were worth every single penny.
In shoring up the claim to Godhead of the Blessed Margaret, yes. Otherwise they are just a boring edge case. The claimed right to self-determination rests on highly arbitrary historical and geographic factors: if they have the right of self-determination why doesn't the Isle of Wight, or Unst, or the town of Woking? And how far would that 2840 have to drop before we recognised an absurdity? 284? 28? 2?
Defending British lives against fascist invaders? £2.778 billion.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
I think we should have taken that £2.778 billion and given it to the NHS.
At least we'd have some money. This is the world created by those who have betrayed the blessed Margaret:
Edit: it's about how it's become impossible to import wine sanely and efficiently into the UK, sorry GB.
Ale and mead it is, I'm afraid.
Given that much of the best wine in the world is now being made in Oz, NZ, SA, Chile, Argentina (!), even the USA, I don't think we have to worry too much.
And English Fizz is now as good as first class champagne, if not quite at serious vintage champagne levels, yet. We shall endure.
It also makes no sense because we import wine from all of those countries mentioned without very many issues. What mechanism are importers of those wines using that the importers of European wines are finding impossible to use, could it be simple incompetence?
Yeah, what does a wine importer know about importing wines, compared to a random on the Internet 🤔
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If Islington and Liverpool want the Red Flag as their anthem, fine, the rest of us will stick to the present one
Are they Catholics?
My point, I think, stands. Some people are in deep shit even if Trump tries to dig them out. In any case that's a fairly hefty if. Trump doesn't particularly like losers, and they failed in their insurrection. I don't think Trump's newly minted status as King of the Losers will change his mind. I wouldn't back it with my own money.
😜
Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
The sturdy German chants its praise,
In Moscow's vaults its hymns were sung
Chicago swells the surging throng.
Enabling the Thatcherite settlement to take root and endure until the present day? Priceless.
A rare case of good coming to those who do good.
No shorter types out there?
Philip? You normally share. How far do you go up the wall?
The Workin Class can kiss my arse,
I've got the foreman's job at last;
You're out of work and on the dole,
You can stick the Red Flag up your 'ole.
Fauci says the US will do it in the coming weeks, and the EU is on track for February I think.
https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1350368052853022720
Edit: it's about how it's become impossible to import wine sanely and efficiently into the UK, sorry GB.
Ale and mead it is, I'm afraid.
Wasn't coming forward as I wasn't online, but since you typed my name I saw it.
And then arrange for the plane to have an unfortunate breakdown so he has to stay there.
Argentina like Trump disputing reality.
Argentina like Trump literally the face of modern fascism.
Argentina like Trump rejecting democracy.
Why would you be anything other than 100% against the Trumpian dispute of Argentina? It is deplorable. You are taking the side (or both sides) with Trumpians. For shame.
And thanks. That's more like it. I have a bit on you but not much. We're both normal.
As you introduce stricter and stricter restrictions you will decrease not just original base R but the 0.7 will come down too.
For everyone who stays at home not infecting anybody then it rather becomes immaterial what the R is, an increased percentage of nothing is still nothing.
I read a file once of a couple of a child where the dad was 6ft 7 and the mother 5ft 0, which must have been something to see. Poor mum was understandably having difficulty handling their early teenaged, behavioural problem beset 6ft + child.
Just because Trump is a horror show doesn't suddenly make GWB's time okay.
Is the idea that Biden won the 2020 election "disputed" according to you?
In any case there was talk back in December that the new variant was so contagious that it would be impossible to get R below 1.
Instead infections are falling pretty fast, in particular in areas which were hardest hit in December.
The other possibility is that there is significant herd immunity acquired which is now having an effect locally.
https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1351129930264948748?s=09
What have you been repeatedly telling us recently about the non binding nature of international law?
https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1237433650230300672
A return to a full March-style lockdown may not be enough to control the new coronavirus variant’s spread in England, Sage experts have suggested.
Minutes from the government advisory group’s meeting on 22 December reveal fears that the R rate may not drop – and remain – below one even with full lockdown and closure of all schools.
The experts concluded in comments published on Thursday: “It is not known whether measures with similar stringency and adherence as spring, with both primary and secondary schools closed, would be sufficient to bring R below one in the presence of the new variant.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-new-variant-lockdown-sage-r-rate-b1780909.html
Given the steady fall in new infections it seems that the new variant is nowhere near as bad as the initial fears were.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert
But anyway, not to go on. CYL.
I think the problem was it was the government scientists standing up and saying that the new variant could add as much as 0.7 on to the existing rate. Maybe they genuinely thought that, or maybe it was a neat way to express to joe-not-statistically-minded-public what the new variant *could* mean.
Or maybe it was just a handy political tool to get some more restrictions in because in they were needed anyway as infections were increasingly fairly rapidly with the old variant, and admitting that the lockdown had been delayed or botched (along with the Christmas will-they-won't-they debacle) was something to be avoided, so hey, new variant is massively more infectious was a handy narrative tool.
To be honest I've slowly come to the point of view that the virus does what it sodding well wants, when it wants. I'm sure the distancing stuff we do helps that but it doesn't always seem to react as predictably as you might think. Some of the geographic variation in particular has just been a bit bemusing.
Plus the UK has escalated its rollout as supply has come through and is escalating faster and faster, Denmark appear to have blitzed through their initial vaccine allocation since they started three weeks late, then plateaued as they wait for more stock.
There is no way even with that dodgy premise that after say 6 to 8 weeks post authorisation the colours will be like that.
He says there is quite a significant immigrant population now, particularly Filipinos who work the fishing boats.
Just because something "may not" and it is "not known" doesn't mean it is expected that it would be above 1 even with a full lockdown, just that it is possible.
Hopefully it will lead to R reducing at an increasing speed.
One day you'll get past the MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again) "dispute" lies and wonder what you were ever thinking.
As I was about to drag myself away a group of Argentinian teens arrived - a school trip or student thing. They saew the falls and burst into an endless rendition of the Argentinian national anthem, then they just shouted Ar-gen-TINA! Ar-gen-TINA! for ever and ever.
Argentina is the most "nationalistic" country I have ever visited, and I am sure it springs from a huge inferiority complex. You see it everywhere.
Supplies seem to be the rate limiting step everywhere, whether being approved or being delivered.
Do you?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1351259524460662800
It feels like we are back in March or April last year, when the strict controls on all our lives led to a fairly quick decline in levels of coronavirus.
But one of the crucial differences this time is the new variant, which is thought to spread between 50 and 70% faster than previous forms of the virus.
Experts warn there are now no guarantees that lockdown will be enough to bring the variant under control.
"It still would not have been easy, but it would have been a much easier situation if it had not been for the new variant," Prof Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, told Inside Health.
"That really pushes the bounds of our ability to control the spread of the virus, even with measures that were previously relatively quite effective."
...
And that assumes lockdown can get R down to 0.9 in areas where the new variant has become the most common form of the virus.
If, as some studies suggest, the variant is about 70% more transmissible then R may stay above 1.0 and cases may not fall at all.
"We'd at best flatten the curve, keep numbers at a roughly constant level, and that's frankly why there is so much emphasis on getting vaccine into people's arms as quickly as possible," said Prof Ferguson.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55544781
This is quite a thoughtful documentary on a New Town, and well worth a watch:
https://player.bfi.org.uk/subscription/film/watch-new-town-utopia-2017-online
And English Fizz is now as good as first class champagne, if not quite at serious vintage champagne levels, yet. We shall endure.
Say the inhabitants of Unst vote to become part of China. What happens next?
Meanwhile the rest of Latin America is such a collection of success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_American_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Argentina is actually doing better than most in the area, difficult to believe though it is.