If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
Are we clear thst creating herd immunity is actually the policy? It seems like one of the boffins mentioned it but the people involved in making the model seem saying this is just an inevitable outcome, rather than the goal. Then a bunch of people who *support* the government seem to be jumping on it because it gives them a way to claim the delay and confusion was part of a cunning and brilliant expert plan, rather than the British getting knocked on their arses like everybody else without recent SARS experience.
If this story is true it moves things on quite a bit.
People over 70 in strict isolation at home - that's a joke!!
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
The way things are going by April 11 the only you will be getting to France to go skiing is swimming the Channel and walking the rest of the way. With everything countries have on their plates right now granddads travelling to France to go skiing in the thick of it does sound a tad selfish to me.
People over 70 are going to die anyway. They've had the bulk of their lives. No-one wants to end up dribbling their last years in a care home in Weston-Super-Mare. When you're old you should take risks and live for the moment. What the hell.
I think this "protect the old by locking them up" is plain bonkers.
Public Health England has ruled out testing frontline NHS staff for coronavirus unless they are admitted to hospital suffering suspected pneumonia or acute respiratory illness.
Nurses, doctors, paramedics and other frontline staff have been told by NHS officials to self-isolate if they develop any coronavirus symptoms such as a cough or a fever.
How many frontline personnel does the NHS have in active duty? Number of tests has recently been ramped up to 3k. Is that enough for NHS personnel alone, many will have to tested multiple times?
Wasn't it 5000 tests today?
It feels to me like the working assumption is starting to be “it’s late March, if you have a cough and a fever you have it”.
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
Are we clear thst creating herd immunity is actually the policy? It seems like one of the boffins mentioned it but the people involved in making the model seem saying this is just an inevitable outcome, rather than the goal. Then a bunch of people who *support* the government seem to be jumping on it because it gives them a way to claim the delay and confusion was part of a cunning and brilliant expert plan, rather than the British getting knocked on their arses like everybody else without recent SARS experience.
Edmund do you think there is a Brit, or a Japanese national living in Britain, sat on a Japanese forum ripping into the Japanese response?
There is something quite distasteful with the tone of that post IMO.
If this story is true it moves things on quite a bit.
People over 70 in strict isolation at home - that's a joke!!
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
The way things are going by April 11 the only you will be getting to France to go skiing is swimming the Channel and walking the rest of the way. With everything countries have on their plates right now granddads travelling to France to go skiing in the thick of it does sound a tad selfish to me.
People over 70 are going to die anyway. They've had the bulk of their lives. No-one wants to end up dribbling their last years in a care home in Weston-Super-Mare. When you're old you should take risks and live for the moment. What the hell.
I think this "protect the old by locking them up" is plain bonkers.
So go out and enjoy life but don't expect to get significant treatment if you fall ill.
If this story is true it moves things on quite a bit.
People over 70 in strict isolation at home - that's a joke!!
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
The way things are going by April 11 the only you will be getting to France to go skiing is swimming the Channel and walking the rest of the way. With everything countries have on their plates right now granddads travelling to France to go skiing in the thick of it does sound a tad selfish to me.
People over 70 are going to die anyway. They've had the bulk of their lives. No-one wants to end up dribbling their last years in a care home in Weston-Super-Mare. When you're old you should take risks and live for the moment. What the hell.
I think this "protect the old by locking them up" is plain bonkers.
So go out and enjoy life but don't expect to get significant treatment if you fall ill.
We could do deal. They sign a document to say 'forget me in the corridor of A&E', don't give me a precious ventilator etc etc.
If this story is true it moves things on quite a bit.
People over 70 in strict isolation at home - that's a joke!!
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
The way things are going by April 11 the only you will be getting to France to go skiing is swimming the Channel and walking the rest of the way. With everything countries have on their plates right now granddads travelling to France to go skiing in the thick of it does sound a tad selfish to me.
People over 70 are going to die anyway. They've had the bulk of their lives. No-one wants to end up dribbling their last years in a care home in Weston-Super-Mare. When you're old you should take risks and live for the moment. What the hell.
I think this "protect the old by locking them up" is plain bonkers.
So go out and enjoy life but don't expect to get significant treatment if you fall ill.
We could do deal. They sign a document to say 'forget me in the corridor of A&E', don't give me a precious ventilator etc etc.
They don't need to, the decision will be made for them.
If the policy in the UK is to allow the virus to spread in order to get herd immunity then surely it makes sense to isolate those most at risk of dying.
Are we clear thst creating herd immunity is actually the policy? It seems like one of the boffins mentioned it but the people involved in making the model seem saying this is just an inevitable outcome, rather than the goal. Then a bunch of people who *support* the government seem to be jumping on it because it gives them a way to claim the delay and confusion was part of a cunning and brilliant expert plan, rather than the British getting knocked on their arses like everybody else without recent SARS experience.
Edmund do you think there is a Brit, or a Japanese national living in Britain, sat on a Japanese forum ripping into the Japanese response?
There is something quite distasteful with the tone of that post IMO.
Pay airlines to use grounded planes and empty airports as Covid 19 triage/isolation centres. Aircrews are good at looking after people, planes have beds. AI reports can move large numbers of people around securely. Lots of catering capacity.
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They really need to get some perspective. It's going to get A LOT worse.
I think this "protect the old by locking them up" is plain bonkers.
There is something quite distasteful with the tone of that post IMO.
I've been equally clear I'm not visiting them again for the foreseeable unless I'm 100% convinced it's safe, and we're totally clean.
Are PBers like me and @eadric and the Chief Scientist the only people in UK taking this seriously?
Experiment UK Govt letter
Pay airlines to use grounded planes and empty airports as Covid 19 triage/isolation centres. Aircrews are good at looking after people, planes have beds. AI reports can move large numbers of people around securely. Lots of catering capacity.