If the EU are doing the flextension thing, why limit it to 31 Jan?
Because that is what Benn asked for.
"Section 3 obliges the Prime Minister to accept an extension to 31 January 2020, and allows the Prime Minister to either accept an offer or ask the House of Commons to accept an offer of any other date."
31 Jan is the path of least resistance on this, I accept. But not the only possible outcome.
All the arguments in favour of HS2 revolve around a reduction in the time it takes to get to London. No-one ever suggests it would be quicker to get to Birmingham or Manchester. If they did the sheer lop-sided absurdity of the project would be revealed.
People want to get from Birmingham and Manchester.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so, but 80 is pushing it.
Seeing as Corbyn and his mate have said they will step down from the leadership if they lose the next GE, then there is a case to be made that the centrist Lab MPs will vote for a GE to get rid of the Trots.
I have just been watching footage of Ian Paisley the Elder and Gerry Adams in the same room. Adams was applauding. Not sure the DUP are as implacable as the header suggests. If Boris agrees to bung them another billion or two of public money, their animosity will doubtless melt quickly.
Still, if they facilitate Prime Minister Corbyn, they will deserve everything they get.
They need a reason to change position other than money, even if money would in theory manage it - having walked themselves out on a plank of outrage, it is not easy to walk back, even though we know they can do it.
Currently they are in a grievance spiral, working themselves up into more and more of a frenzy.
All the arguments in favour of HS2 revolve around a reduction in the time it takes to get to London. No-one ever suggests it would be quicker to get to Birmingham or Manchester. If they did the sheer lop-sided absurdity of the project would be revealed.
But getting to Birmingham or Manchester quicker is actually the primary purpose. It means that on the rare occasions when civil servants actually travel to meetings outside of London (rather than expecting the rest of us to get to Whitehall for 9am) they can do it more quickly, as a day trip rather than an overnighter, and not have to spend time in the scary north after dark.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
30 or so right
216 MPs not voting would block it. the 7 SFers are a given, so 209 Labour MPs. There are 245 which allows 36 to rebel
I think a lot of the expelled Tories might vote against an election. Nick Boles has certainly said that he wouldn't support an early election.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
Some who might otherwise be keen on an election will be put off by the idea of having one two weeks before Christmas.
Outside the political bubble, a December election will go down like a cup of cold sick with the population at large.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so, but 80 is pushing it.
Seeing as Corbyn and his mate have said they will step down from the leadership if they lose the next GE, then there is a case to be made that the centrist Lab MPs will vote for a GE to get rid of the Trots.
Not if it means handing Boris’ deranged mob five more years.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so that meet that criterion, but 80 is pushing it.
What have I missed? Is Corbyn seriously going to continue to postpone an election after 31st Oct? I can't see how he can persuade voters that there's any excuse for that. Leaving Boris in power might seem like a fun game of Punch, but it's also irresponsible.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
She does and is way too thick to get why it really isn't.
What would be really funny would be to hear the bleating of Leavers if No Deal Brexit happened. In second place would be the whining of the ERG and their supporters if Corbyn won the election.
Frankly, I no longer give a d*mn. I am told that I and 17m other losers have to "suck it up, we lost".
This is not my project. When it turns into a monumental mess the only pleasure left in the wreckage will be watching supporters of this disaster screaming that it was not meant to be like this.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so that meet that criterion, but 80 is pushing it.
What have I missed? Is Corbyn seriously going to continue to postpone an election after 31st Oct? I can't see how he can persuade voters that there's any excuse for that. Leaving Boris in power might seem like a fun game of Punch, but it's also irresponsible.
It’s more irresponsible to hand the odious clown five more years, which is exactly what will happen if they have an election in short order.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so that meet that criterion, but 80 is pushing it.
What have I missed? Is Corbyn seriously going to continue to postpone an election after 31st Oct? I can't see how he can persuade voters that there's any excuse for that. Leaving Boris in power might seem like a fun game of Punch, but it's also irresponsible.
It’s more irresponsible to hand the odious clown five more years, which is exactly what will happen if they have an election in short order.
That will be THE VOTERS handing the odious clown five more years.
You don't even try to hide your contempt for democracy these days, do you?
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
One of the first and finest pieces of English satire was A Modest Proposal. So I’m not sure you’re right there.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
Took a little while after getting back from the cruise before the chip reconnected with central command, but he's back to being a fully automated Tory.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
One of the first and finest pieces of English satire was A Modest Proposal. So I’m not sure you’re right there.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so that meet that criterion, but 80 is pushing it.
What have I missed? Is Corbyn seriously going to continue to postpone an election after 31st Oct? I can't see how he can persuade voters that there's any excuse for that. Leaving Boris in power might seem like a fun game of Punch, but it's also irresponsible.
It’s more irresponsible to hand the odious clown five more years, which is exactly what will happen if they have an election in short order.
That will be THE VOTERS handing the odious clown five more years.
You don't even try to hide your contempt for democracy these days, do you?
Transparent, sanctimonious crap. As if the government would cut and run if it was behind in the polls. It’s called politics. Timing is everything.
If it wasn't for the FTPA May's first meaningful vote would have been a confidence issue and we'd have had an election already. We could have been almost a year into Corbyn's socialist paradise by now
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
Took a little while after getting back from the cruise before the chip reconnected with central command, but he's back to being a fully automated Tory.
Along with the 17.4m. Of which Big_G wasn't a part, because he voted Remain.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
Took a little while after getting back from the cruise before the chip reconnected with central command, but he's back to being a fully automated Tory.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
It's precisely at times like this that sticking to established norms of accountability and scrutiny is so important. It's the opposite of stupid.
If it wasn't for the FTPA May's first meaningful vote would have been a confidence issue and we'd have had an election already. We could have been almost a year into Corbyn's socialist paradise by now
Diluted socialist paradise as the Brexit Party would have won some seats and the LDs and SNP held the balance of power
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
One of the first and finest pieces of English satire was A Modest Proposal. So I’m not sure you’re right there.
That's a rather wide definition of "English" you have there, Alastair...
Suck it up. No pre Christmas election, in the same way that there wouldn’t be one if Boris was behind in the polls. You know all this, and know we are not stupid, so do everyone a favour and quit spewing the party propaganda.
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
One of the first and finest pieces of English satire was A Modest Proposal. So I’m not sure you’re right there.
That's a rather wide definition of "English" you have there, Alastair...
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
It’s sad to see a decent man rejoining a party that is run by narrow-minded nationalists and led by a mendacious moron.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
What is he doing?
Now Ben - you are a good poster on here but you do surprise me with this posr
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
Question: how many Labour MPs would have to vote for an early election in order to reach the magic 434 figure, assuming that the other parties vote for one (except perhaps the independent Conservatives)?
I make the answer around 80, which isn't that many out of 250.
You would need to find 80 Labour MPs that are certifiably insane. Granted, you could probably fish out 40 or so that meet that criterion, but 80 is pushing it.
What have I missed? Is Corbyn seriously going to continue to postpone an election after 31st Oct? I can't see how he can persuade voters that there's any excuse for that. Leaving Boris in power might seem like a fun game of Punch, but it's also irresponsible.
It’s more irresponsible to hand the odious clown five more years, which is exactly what will happen if they have an election in short order.
That will be THE VOTERS handing the odious clown five more years.
You don't even try to hide your contempt for democracy these days, do you?
Transparent, sanctimonious crap. As if the government would cut and run if it was behind in the polls. It’s called politics. Timing is everything.
We can wait if we must, for the voters to dismantle Labour as a party of Government..... The longer it takes, the more comprehensive it will be.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
Took a little while after getting back from the cruise before the chip reconnected with central command, but he's back to being a fully automated Tory.
Along with the 17.4m. Of which Big_G wasn't a part, because he voted Remain.
I was talking about Tories, not Leave. Jeez, you're obsessed
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
Took a little while after getting back from the cruise before the chip reconnected with central command, but he's back to being a fully automated Tory.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
Don't worry BigG, you will get your own back on election night!
Satire is meant to be to the metaphorical knife wielded to slice through the bullsh*t. Funniness is not required for satire.
Technically maybe (although humour is the first possible criteron given in the dictionary defintion as being part of satire, even though there are others), but that sounds like something a poor satirist uses as an excuse.
Indeed. Satire can include humour, but its use in politics has always largely been unkind.
Rarely about wishing death upon half the electorate though.
One of the first and finest pieces of English satire was A Modest Proposal. So I’m not sure you’re right there.
That's a rather wide definition of "English" you have there, Alastair...
It’s in English.
Yes. That was the take-away from the point. Uh-huh. Yes, indeedy.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
It’s sad to see a decent man rejoining a party that is run by narrow-minded nationalists and led by a mendacious moron.
Sorry you are upset but this is bigger than Boris and Cummings and my party has the deal and the policies
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
What is he doing?
Now Ben - you are a good poster on here but you do surprise me with this posr
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
I think that is enough to be going on with
He's paused his deal. Now, maybe he'll change his mind again but at the present moment his stated intention is not to be passing his deal, so why criticise people for pointing that out?
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
What is he doing?
Now Ben - you are a good poster on here but you do surprise me with this posr
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
I think that is enough to be going on with
I respect and like you Big_G but on these two points you are plainly wrong:
We are not "days away from passing a deal" because Boris has paused the passage of the deal. Nor are we days away from a GE, the earliest one could take place is December by most people's reckoning and more likely it will be next year.
The only sensible conclusion is that Boris is too scared to appear in front of the Liaison Committee.
Looking across the whole UK, several London boroughs (Lambeth, Hackney, Islington and Camden) persistently had some of the lowest personal well-being ratings reported across all measures since the year ending March 2012 (Figure 6). They were followed by Wolverhampton, Manchester, Lewisham, Greenwich and Nottingham which reported poor well-being scores for three measures.
Liverpool, Southwark and Haringey round out the 'depressed dozen' of the last decade.
Its noticeable that they are all urban areas, mostly strongly Remain and all Labour strongholds.
317 seats elected a Conservative in 2017 although considerably fewer have one now. The Tories can reasonably expect to regain Buckingham as well.
So the net gain they need is small, very small. Against that they may well lose 7 or 8 seats in Scotland and they may lose some to the yellow peril in the SW and London, maybe a dozen. On current polling their chances of gaining more than these 2 put together plus the required margin from a Labour Party in a very bad place must be good.
I don't disagree with Alastair that, as in 2017, people might start to think seriously about voting tactically against the Tories if they see a real risk of Boris storming off with a large majority. In extremis that might even mean some people holding their nose and voting Labour as a stop the Tory vote. It will probably get closer than it is right now but Corbyn is far more tarnished than he was in 2017.
If there is an election in the next few months I think the Tories will get their majority, but probably a modest one once again.
Let me make a guess.
I'd reckon that the Conservative Party will gain back all pretty much all the defectors seats, with the possible/probable exception of Heidi Allen in South Cambridgeshire. Wollaston *might* hold Totnes, but only if the Brexit Party splits the vote there.
In Scotland, the Conservatives will lose perhaps five seats, doing somewhat better than some of the polls suggest.
To the LDs, the Conservatives will lose seats, but not as many as the Yellow Peril dream of. (Not least because in most constituencies, they will split the Remain vote with Labour.)
I would reckon that there will be 2-5 seats in London, of which only Richmond Park is nailed on. They should recreate the "golden crescent" in SW London, recapturing Sutton & Cheam too. And then there are a bunch of Remain-y seats where the LDs did very well in the Euros which they might pick up: Wimbledon, Putney, City of London, etc.
I don't see the LDs making too many gains in the South West. Only Remain voting St Ives looks a better than even shot. There are a couple of "possibles", especially if tactical voting comes in, but I suspect they'll end up disappointed there.
But I think the LDs will do better in the market towns of SE England where they maintained (or increased this year) their resonably strong Councillor-bases. I think they might add 5 or 6 there. (And they'll effectively hold on to Eastbourne, I'm sure.)
So, the LDs will take 8-12 net from the Conservatives, while the SNP grab 5. This means the Conservative Party is starting at around 301/202. How many Labour seats can they grab? My guess would be 20-40. So, a narrow majority seems the most likely outcome.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
Don't worry Big G you post what you like.
Most of us have always appreciated your candour.
Thanks Gin and I will
If you post on a political blog you are bound to upset some but 'que sara sara'
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
Unthinking partisanship... what do you expect?
The commitment to democracy of most posters is only skin deep, sadly.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
What is he doing?
Now Ben - you are a good poster on here but you do surprise me with this posr
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
I think that is enough to be going on with
Wollaston is just being a shit-stirrer. She has to earn her rght to be in the LibDems.
Just when you thought it was impossible for her to sink any further......
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
Ane's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
It was a slightly longer suspension than usual I grant you. There was no practical effect then or since. I didn't agree with it but I didn't consider it to be the most evil of things some evidently do. Johnson has never suggested forcing my children from their school as enemies of the people; quadrupling my council tax or seeking to destroy the basis of the industry in which I work.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly ) but I ask again - how can you possibly compare the short to medium term downturn of a No Deal (say) for the whole-scale, fundamental destruction of our economic system as we know it? As a pensions lawyer you must know you are probably one of the first to be put up against the metaphorical wall come a Corbyn government,
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our political system and Johnson has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid Parliamentary scrutiny. He has attended only two sessions of PMQs in about three months and not appeared before the liaison committee at all. This is not a partisan point, but simply one of good governance.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
It’s sad to see a decent man rejoining a party that is run by narrow-minded nationalists and led by a mendacious moron.
Sorry you are upset but this is bigger than Boris and Cummings and my party has the deal and the policies
It has a deal? Oh, good. Let me know when it gets passed. Because that bit is quite important.
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
I don't disagree with Alastair that, as in 2017, people might start to think seriously about voting tactically against the Tories if they see a real risk of Boris storming off with a large majority. In extremis that might even mean some people holding their nose and voting Labour as a stop the Tory vote. It will probably get closer than it is right now but Corbyn is far more tarnished than he was in 2017.
If there is an election in the next few months I think the Tories will get their majority, but probably a modest one once again.
Let me make a guess.
I'd reckon that the Conservative Party will gain back all pretty much all the defectors seats, with the possible/probable exception of Heidi Allen in South Cambridgeshire. Wollaston *might* hold Totnes, but only if the Brexit Party splits the vote there.
In Scotland, the Conservatives will lose perhaps five seats, doing somewhat better than some of the polls suggest.
To the LDs, the Conservatives will lose seats, but not as many as the Yellow Peril dream of. (Not least because in most constituencies, they will split the Remain vote with Labour.)
I would reckon that there will be 2-5 seats in London, of which only Richmond Park is nailed on. They should recreate the "golden crescent" in SW London, recapturing Sutton & Cheam too. And then there are a bunch of Remain-y seats where the LDs did very well in the Euros which they might pick up: Wimbledon, Putney, City of London, etc.
I don't see the LDs making too many gains in the South West. Only Remain voting St Ives looks a better than even shot. There are a couple of "possibles", especially if tactical voting comes in, but I suspect they'll end up disappointed there.
But I think the LDs will do better in the market towns of SE England where they maintained (or increased this year) their resonably strong Councillor-bases. I think they might add 5 or 6 there. (And they'll effectively hold on to Eastbourne, I'm sure.)
So, the LDs will take 8-12 net from the Conservatives, while the SNP grab 5. This means the Conservative Party is starting at around 301/202. How many Labour seats can they grab? My guess would be 20-40. So, a narrow majority seems the most likely outcome.
This is well-reasoned and if there were an election tomorrow you could well be right. But unless I am sadly misinformed there is no GE tomorrow.
What the position will look like whenever the next GE does take place is currently impossible to fathom.
317 seats elected a Conservative in 2017 although considerably fewer have one now. The Tories can reasonably expect to regain Buckingham as well.
So the net gain they need is small, very small. Against that they may well lose 7 or 8 seats in Scotland and they may lose some to the yellow peril in the SW and London, maybe a dozen. On current polling their chances of gaining more than these 2 put together plus the required margin from a Labour Party in a very bad place must be good.
I don't disagree with Alastair that, as in 2017, people might start to think seriously about voting tactically against the Tories if they see a real risk of Boris storming off with a large majority. In extremis that might even mean some people holding their nose and voting Labour as a stop the Tory vote. It will probably get closer than it is right now but Corbyn is far more tarnished than he was in 2017.
If there is an election in the next few months I think the Tories will get their majority, but probably a modest one once again.
Let me make a guess.
I'd reckon that the Conservative Party will gain back all pretty much all the defectors seats, with the possible/probable exception of Heidi Allen in South Cambridgeshire. Wollaston *might* hold Totnes, but only if the Brexit Party splits the vote there.
In Scotland, the Conservatives will lose perhaps five seats, doing somewhat better than some of the polls suggest.
To the LDs, the Conservatives will lose seats, but not as many as the Yellow Peril dream of. (Not least because in most constituencies, they will split the Remain vote with Labour.)
I would reckon that there will be 2-5 seats in London, of which only Richmond Park is nailed on. They should recreate the "golden crescent" in SW London, recapturing Sutton & Cheam too. And then there are a bunch of Remain-y seats where the LDs did very well in the Euros which they might pick up: Wimbledon, Putney, City of London, etc.
I don't see the LDs making too many gains in the South West. Only Remain voting St Ives looks a better than even shot. There are a couple of "possibles", especially if tactical voting comes in, but I suspect they'll end up disappointed there.
But I think the LDs will do better in the market towns of SE England where they maintained (or increased this year) their resonably strong Councillor-bases. I think they might add 5 or 6 there. (And they'll effectively hold on to Eastbourne, I'm sure.)
So, the LDs will take 8-12 net from the Conservatives, while the SNP grab 5. This means the Conservative Party is starting at around 301/202. How many Labour seats can they grab? My guess would be 20-40. So, a narrow majority seems the most likely outcome.
Overturning a 12k majority in Sutton & Cheam is a big ask IMO:
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
But accountability to Parliament is one of the key parts of our politicae.
I accept that but to expect him to appear at this time is more than stupid
What else is he doing though? He's not pushing the WAB bill through, the Queen's Speech is a farce, the budget will have to be canned because it was dependent on exiting on 31st October, he's not campaigning because he cannot force an election, he has only managed to turn up to PMQs twice, he's not writing his Telegraph articles any more...
What is he doing?
Now Ben - you are a good poster on here but you do surprise me with this posr
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
I think that is enough to be going on with
I respect and like you Big_G but on these two points you are plainly wrong:
We are not "days away from passing a deal" because Boris has paused the passage of the deal. Nor are we days away from a GE, the earliest one could take place is December by most people's reckoning and more likely it will be next year.
The only sensible conclusion is that Boris is too scared to appear in front of the Liaison Committee.
If Macron does get his way and the 15th November is the end date we are only 3 weeks or so from getting a deal passed or mayhem. If the EU extend to the 31st January he has other issues to address
That is enough to concentrate his mind as well as being in daily contact with the leaders of the EU who are far more important than Wollaston at this time
I do understand the dislike of Boris from his political opponents and of course I fear and dislike Corbyn in a magnitude many times that of anything Boris could do
Brexit is a far greater danger in reality than anything Jeremy Corbyn is going to be able to do. It has already corroded the constitution and the long term spiral of decline has already set in. It is a complete disaster.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
It was a slightly longer suspension than usual I grant you. There was no practical effect then or since. I didn't agree with it but I didn't consider it to be the most evil of things some evidently do. Johnson has never suggested forcing my children from their school as enemies of the people; quadrupling my council tax or seeking to destroy the basis of the industry in which I work.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly ) but I ask again - how can you possibly compare the short to medium term downturn of a No Deal (say) for the whole-scale, fundamental destruction of our economic system as we know it? As a pensions lawyer you must know you are probably one of the first to be put up against the metaphorical wall come a Corbyn government,
I don’t have a commitment to remaining.
Leavers, however, have sought to suspend democracy, attack every civic institution of the country: and for what? To inflict as much permanent damage to the economy in pursuit of a malign obsession as they can manage.
Since there is no realistic chance of a majority Labour government, much the most present danger is a continuation of the current anti-democratic government.
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
It’s sad to see a decent man rejoining a party that is run by narrow-minded nationalists and led by a mendacious moron.
Sorry you are upset but this is bigger than Boris and Cummings and my party has the deal and the policies
More Boris cowardice it would seem...... What a spineless individual.
Having an election "spineless"? Well it's a view I suppose.
While I despise Johnson, I have to confess I find it peculiar that he’s being abused for trying to get an election and Corbyn is being abused for trying to block one.
It’s fine to criticise them for being liars, bullies, retards, populists, cronyists, racists and hypocrites, but this one doesn’t make sense. Either there should be an election, or there shouldn’t. But all people are doing is seeing it through their partisan specs and screaming at the other side for stopping them.
Sorry - I put it against the wrong tweet. There were two of them. This one (above) and another complaining that Boris had bottled out of a monthly grilling by MPs. For the third time. That was the tweet I meant to post against (below)
I'd reckon that the Conservative Party will gain back all pretty much all the defectors seats, with the possible/probable exception of Heidi Allen in South Cambridgeshire. Wollaston *might* hold Totnes, but only if the Brexit Party splits the vote there.
In Scotland, the Conservatives will lose perhaps five seats, doing somewhat better than some of the polls suggest.
To the LDs, the Conservatives will lose seats, but not as many as the Yellow Peril dream of. (Not least because in most constituencies, they will split the Remain vote with Labour.)
I would reckon that there will be 2-5 seats in London, of which only Richmond Park is nailed on. They should recreate the "golden crescent" in SW London, recapturing Sutton & Cheam too. And then there are a bunch of Remain-y seats where the LDs did very well in the Euros which they might pick up: Wimbledon, Putney, City of London, etc.
I don't see the LDs making too many gains in the South West. Only Remain voting St Ives looks a better than even shot. There are a couple of "possibles", especially if tactical voting comes in, but I suspect they'll end up disappointed there.
But I think the LDs will do better in the market towns of SE England where they maintained (or increased this year) their resonably strong Councillor-bases. I think they might add 5 or 6 there. (And they'll effectively hold on to Eastbourne, I'm sure.)
So, the LDs will take 8-12 net from the Conservatives, while the SNP grab 5. This means the Conservative Party is starting at around 301/202. How many Labour seats can they grab? My guess would be 20-40. So, a narrow majority seems the most likely outcome.
Our arithmetic is similar enough not to be worth arguing about. I think that the increase in the Lib Dem vote in the polls will bring them back in contention in some of the seats lost in 2015 whether they voted leave or remain. But Labour look incredibly vulnerable in the midlands and east England.
If it wasn't for the FTPA May's first meaningful vote would have been a confidence issue and we'd have had an election already. We could have been almost a year into Corbyn's socialist paradise by now
Looking across the whole UK, several London boroughs (Lambeth, Hackney, Islington and Camden) persistently had some of the lowest personal well-being ratings reported across all measures since the year ending March 2012 (Figure 6). They were followed by Wolverhampton, Manchester, Lewisham, Greenwich and Nottingham which reported poor well-being scores for three measures.
Liverpool, Southwark and Haringey round out the 'depressed dozen' of the last decade.
Its noticeable that they are all urban areas, mostly strongly Remain and all Labour strongholds.
Presumably Mansfield was number one? It is, after all, your paleo conservative vision for Britain.
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
It was a slightly longer suspension than usual I grant you. There was no practical effect then or since. I didn't agree with it but I didn't consider it to be the most evil of things some evidently do. Johnson has never suggested forcing my children from their school as enemies of the people; quadrupling my council tax or seeking to destroy the basis of the industry in which I work.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly ) but I ask again - how can you possibly compare the short to medium term downturn of a No Deal (say) for the whole-scale, fundamental destruction of our economic system as we know it? As a pensions lawyer you must know you are probably one of the first to be put up against the metaphorical wall come a Corbyn government,
I don’t have a commitment to remaining.
Leavers, however, have sought to suspend democracy, attack every civic institution of the country: and for what? To inflict as much permanent damage to the economy in pursuit of a malign obsession as they can manage.
Since there is no realistic chance of a majority Labour government, much the most present danger is a continuation of the current anti-democratic government.
Well hopefully for both our sakes and ongoing sanity this government will be shortly replaced by a new democratically elected one, with No Deal all but impossible. But it's going to be either Corbyn or Johnson at the helm.
Would you therefore prefer a caged Johnson or caged Corbyn (neither with a majority but in C&S with someone)
Sad to see Big G back in the spin zone. Boris really doesn’t deserve it.
I am in the spin zone for a deal that stops no deal and respects the referendum
Sorry if that upsets you
And to you Big_G, I have read PB for years despite only posting recently.
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
Thank you for your kind post. I am surprised how many on here seem to be upset I have re-joined the party.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
You have rejoined? When did that happen?
Yesterday after the one nation group that had lost the whip voted for on the programme motion
Damage from a No Deal can be repaired. The economy can survive as the basic fundamentals remain unchanged - the freedom to invest; government respecting property rights and rights of ownership. We may economically shrink but the economic infrastructure remains - and can grow again.
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
It was a slightly longer suspension than usual I grant you. There was no practical effect then or since. I didn't agree with it but I didn't consider it to be the most evil of things some evidently do. Johnson has never suggested forcing my children from their school as enemies of the people; quadrupling my council tax or seeking to destroy the basis of the industry in which I work.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly ) but I ask again - how can you possibly compare the short to medium term downturn of a No Deal (say) for the whole-scale, fundamental destruction of our economic system as we know it? As a pensions lawyer you must know you are probably one of the first to be put up against the metaphorical wall come a Corbyn government,
I don’t have a commitment to remaining.
Leavers, however, have sought to suspend democracy, attack every civic institution of the country: and for what? To inflict as much permanent damage to the economy in pursuit of a malign obsession as they can manage.
Since there is no realistic chance of a majority Labour government, much the most present danger is a continuation of the current anti-democratic government.
Well hopefully for both our sakes and ongoing sanity this government will be shortly replaced by a new democratically elected one, with No Deal all but impossible. But it's going to be either Corbyn or Johnson at the helm.
Would you therefore prefer a caged Johnson or caged Corbyn (neither with a majority but in C&S with someone)
That is a false choice. There are other parties to vote for.
So you’re just going to forget the attempt to suspend democracy then?
It was a slightly longer suspension than usual I grant you. There was no practical effect then or since. I didn't agree with it but I didn't consider it to be the most evil of things some evidently do. Johnson has never suggested forcing my children from their school as enemies of the people; quadrupling my council tax or seeking to destroy the basis of the industry in which I work.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly ) but I ask again - how can you possibly compare the short to medium term downturn of a No Deal (say) for the whole-scale, fundamental destruction of our economic system as we know it? As a pensions lawyer you must know you are probasbly one of the first to be put up against the metaphorical wall come a Corbyn government,
I don’t have a commitment to remaining.
Leavers, however, have sought to suspend democracy, attack every civic institution of the country: and for what? To inflict as much permanent damage to the economy in pursuit of a malign obsession as they can manage.
Since there is no realistic chance of a majority Labour government, much the most present danger is a continuation of the current anti-democratic government.
Well hopefully for both our sakes and ongoing sanity this government will be shortly replaced by a new democratically elected one, with No Deal all but impossible. But it's going to be either Corbyn or Johnson at the helm.
Wold you therefore prefer a caged Johnson or caged Corbyn (neither with a majority but in C&S with someone)
Of the two, caged Corbyn. He’s less competent and his malign plans are longer term. The damage from Johnson, even caged Johnson, is immediate.
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31 Jan is the path of least resistance on this, I accept. But not the only possible outcome.
Currently they are in a grievance spiral, working themselves up into more and more of a frenzy.
Outside the political bubble, a December election will go down like a cup of cold sick with the population at large.
Boris has far more important issues to deal with including the possibility she may not be an MP by Christmas
Frankly, I no longer give a d*mn. I am told that I and 17m other losers have to "suck it up, we lost".
This is not my project. When it turns into a monumental mess the only pleasure left in the wreckage will be watching supporters of this disaster screaming that it was not meant to be like this.
So that puts the world in balance.
You don't even try to hide your contempt for democracy these days, do you?
Sorry if that upsets you
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1187099659925368832
You have in absolute fairness always maintained your belief in ensuring no No deal whilst respecting the result.
It was, as a viewer, quite a drama seeing you being driven away from the Tories - and a (sudden) decision I absolutely understood. However I am glad that you have felt comfortable enough to consider re-joining. BJ isn't everyone's cup-of-tea (evidently) but he is nothing compared to the danger of Corbyn and his entourage. We must never forget that.
The voters.....
What is he doing?
Spare us the sycophantic drivel.
I do try to be fair and honest in my posts
Best wishes
Corbyn seeks to change the fundamental dynamics of our whole economic system. Forever. I'm sorry but confiscating private school endowments, high possibility of nationalising pension funds, committing to nationalisation without adequate compensation - all of these things will be far far worse than No Deal.
No Deal you can still own and invest and be economically free. Under Corbyn - well you won't be.
Why can't at least acknowledge this being the obviously highly educated, City based worker like myself is baffling.
Boris is upto his eyes in dealing with Brexit and we could be days away from passing a deal or a GE
I think that is enough to be going on with
Gotta love the voters.
Most of us have always appreciated your candour.
We are not "days away from passing a deal" because Boris has paused the passage of the deal. Nor are we days away from a GE, the earliest one could take place is December by most people's reckoning and more likely it will be next year.
The only sensible conclusion is that Boris is too scared to appear in front of the Liaison Committee.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/bulletins/measuringnationalwellbeing/april2018tomarch2019#areas-of-persistently-high-and-low-well-being
Looking across the whole UK, several London boroughs (Lambeth, Hackney, Islington and Camden) persistently had some of the lowest personal well-being ratings reported across all measures since the year ending March 2012 (Figure 6). They were followed by Wolverhampton, Manchester, Lewisham, Greenwich and Nottingham which reported poor well-being scores for three measures.
Liverpool, Southwark and Haringey round out the 'depressed dozen' of the last decade.
Its noticeable that they are all urban areas, mostly strongly Remain and all Labour strongholds.
I'd reckon that the Conservative Party will gain back all pretty much all the defectors seats, with the possible/probable exception of Heidi Allen in South Cambridgeshire. Wollaston *might* hold Totnes, but only if the Brexit Party splits the vote there.
In Scotland, the Conservatives will lose perhaps five seats, doing somewhat better than some of the polls suggest.
To the LDs, the Conservatives will lose seats, but not as many as the Yellow Peril dream of. (Not least because in most constituencies, they will split the Remain vote with Labour.)
I would reckon that there will be 2-5 seats in London, of which only Richmond Park is nailed on. They should recreate the "golden crescent" in SW London, recapturing Sutton & Cheam too. And then there are a bunch of Remain-y seats where the LDs did very well in the Euros which they might pick up: Wimbledon, Putney, City of London, etc.
I don't see the LDs making too many gains in the South West. Only Remain voting St Ives looks a better than even shot. There are a couple of "possibles", especially if tactical voting comes in, but I suspect they'll end up disappointed there.
But I think the LDs will do better in the market towns of SE England where they maintained (or increased this year) their resonably strong Councillor-bases. I think they might add 5 or 6 there. (And they'll effectively hold on to Eastbourne, I'm sure.)
So, the LDs will take 8-12 net from the Conservatives, while the SNP grab 5. This means the Conservative Party is starting at around 301/202. How many Labour seats can they grab? My guess would be 20-40. So, a narrow majority seems the most likely outcome.
If you post on a political blog you are bound to upset some but 'que sara sara'
Just when you thought it was impossible for her to sink any further......
It gives us some idea of how he will behave in a campaign.
A good deflection I grant you but that wasn't my question.
Your commitment to remaining is admirable and your Headers and Posts are well thought out (mostly
What the position will look like whenever the next GE does take place is currently impossible to fathom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_and_Cheam_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
That is enough to concentrate his mind as well as being in daily contact with the leaders of the EU who are far more important than Wollaston at this time
I do understand the dislike of Boris from his political opponents and of course I fear and dislike Corbyn in a magnitude many times that of anything Boris could do
Leavers, however, have sought to suspend democracy, attack every civic institution of the country: and for what? To inflict as much permanent damage to the economy in pursuit of a malign obsession as they can manage.
Since there is no realistic chance of a majority Labour government, much the most present danger is a continuation of the current anti-democratic government.
Would you therefore prefer a caged Johnson or caged Corbyn (neither with a majority but in C&S with someone)
Uncaged would be a harder question.