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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    TGOHF said:

    Boris drifting on Betfair.

    1.56 when he started. 1.59 now.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TGOHF said:

    Boris drifting on Betfair.

    He's been 1.6 or so throughout this whole speech.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653
    So he did do drugs.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    Boris drifting on Betfair.

    He's been 1.6 or so throughout this whole speech.
    Was 1.54 an hour or so ago.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Boris drifting on Betfair.

    He's been 1.6 or so throughout this whole speech.
    Was 1.54 an hour or so ago.
    Yes, but he's not drifting based on this performance.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293

    So he did do drugs.

    Of course he did. :D
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    Boris Johnson is completely vacuous. What on earth is this? He's saying nothing.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,720
    Andrea Leadsom has a new negotiating position:

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/1138738146789793792
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    On to the f-ing of business now.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798
    Johnson: let the police stop and search any young people who look like they might be up to something illegal. Also: it's nobody's business if I took coke when I was 19.
    One rule for OEs, one rule for the plebs.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Boris Johnson is completely vacuous. What on earth is this? He's saying nothing.

    https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/1138753702251171840
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Boris tightening, Hunt drifting, and money for Leadsom?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    GIN1138 said:

    So he did do drugs.

    Of course he did. :D
    Probably - he is right that it’s not a big deal.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Andrea Leadsom has a new negotiating position:

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/1138738146789793792

    And we were worried about Boris...
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    edited June 2019

    Andrea Leadsom has a new negotiating position:

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/1138738146789793792

    In the context of Brexit negotiations?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,605
    An unimpressive uninspiring performance - but he hasn't blown up.

    Can't see this performance trending on social media.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,133
    Boris is doing very poorly. I just dont get what the tories (and a significant number of the public) see in him.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    At last, takes the Guardian to ask a decent question
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    Weak answer here... just thinks that MPs will 'behave'...

    NO THEY WONT AND THEY SHOULDNT
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653
    After this abject performance, I suspect even Corbyn might have a chance against Johnson. I'd still say odds against, but it would be close. It is truly awful.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,698

    At last, takes the Guardian to ask a decent question

    To which the answer is a lot of bland waffle.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133

    Boris Johnson is completely vacuous. What on earth is this? He's saying nothing.

    https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/1138753702251171840
    He has been very subdued and frankly has 'not dropped any bricks'
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    Lots of 'I think'... there...

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653
    Killer question from the Grauniad to which Johnsion has no answer.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    isam said:

    Interview with the man behind Titania McGrath & Jonathan Pie, Andrew Doyle. Have to agree with his reasons for satirising the ‘Woke’ types who pride themselves on their righteousness, using tenuous guilt by association techniques whilst presenting themselves as a victim despite being privileged

    A man who blocks people for even the mildest criticism or question of him. The absolute classic snowflake.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    Boris Johnson is completely vacuous. What on earth is this? He's saying nothing.

    I think you're just "veiling" your language :)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    “We have a fantastic team, a great team, it’s going to be a great Brexit - you’re gonna love it”

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Dull by Boris's standard is a pass.

    Lynton gets the "Wiff-Waff Kid" past the first public hurdle.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914

    Boris is doing very poorly. I just dont get what the tories (and a significant number of the public) see in him.

    A blond with big tits....what's for a Tory not to like?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Alistair said:

    isam said:

    Interview with the man behind Titania McGrath & Jonathan Pie, Andrew Doyle. Have to agree with his reasons for satirising the ‘Woke’ types who pride themselves on their righteousness, using tenuous guilt by association techniques whilst presenting themselves as a victim despite being privileged

    A man who blocks people for even the mildest criticism or question of him. The absolute classic snowflake.
    Does he really? I didn't know that.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773

    Killer question from the Grauniad to which Johnsion has no answer.

    This should be hammered home in every interview and question. Indeed, it's the only question.

    HOW WILL YOU GET A DEAL?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133
    Sky - Energetic and competent speech !!!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884
    Roger said:

    Boris is doing very poorly. I just dont get what the tories (and a significant number of the public) see in him.

    A blond with big tits....what's for a Tory not to like?
    Penny's not standing :(
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    TGOHF said:

    “We have a fantastic team, a great team, it’s going to be a great Brexit - you’re gonna love it”

    Strong vibes of Trump for sure.


  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    TGOHF said:

    “We have a fantastic team, a great team, it’s going to be a great Brexit - you’re gonna love it”

    Strong vibes of Trump for sure.


    "Let's make Brexit great again!"
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Boris is doing very poorly. I just dont get what the tories (and a significant number of the public) see in him.

    Boris is the comfort blanket for the Conservatives. That's it.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Well nothing new there.

    Can’t see Boris in the tv debates.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293

    Sky - Energetic and competent speech !!!

    As I was saying... The speech was perfectly fine. He got through the media questions OK. No major gaffes made in either the speech or the questions.

    No problem.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653
    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798
    The response to the last question was completely delusional. He has no idea how to progress the EU negotiations and no hope of getting anything through parliament. The Tories are probably right that he is their best bet for the Autumn election that now looks inevitable. But based on that performance - which was really just pound shop Farage - I wouldn't imagine that either the Brexit Party or Labour are especially worried.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited June 2019
    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Do we remember 2016 Leadership election where every candidate who made their launch speech had their price fall as the speech went on and exactly the same thing happened with Boris right up until the point where he said he wasn't running.

    Funny day.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    And possibly worse than Corbyn. Which is going some.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,605
    Johnson's odds have lengthened slightly but not significantly.

    So the top five runners currently are Johnson, Hunt, Leadsom, Gove and Rory. Who would have predicted that! Raab on 70s.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133
    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    What was there to love?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    but still better than Corbyn or Thornberry

    thats how bad our political line up is
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    the longer Leadsom's odds say at 10ish the more nervous I get.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    So the plan must be a GE instead, non? Unless, of course, you think the plan doesn't extend beyond "make me PM"? Which is possible.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Can't you raise the bar a bit? Honestly the Brexiteers aren't helping their cause at the moment by continuing to shout trite soundbites from the touchline. We had all this in 2016 and people have begun to see right through it. Simply shouting that things are 'project fear' or airily that 'we will make trade deals' doesn't make them true.
    Not sure what you mean by helping our cause.

    In 2016 we labelled it project fear, and it resonated because nobody took seriously the absurd claims from the Remain campaign. And we were thus proven right. Today, the same scare stories are being told and we're labelling them project fear again, except this time we're laughing even harder at them.

    If we didn't believe George Osborne in 2016, we're hardly all going to believe Philip Hammond in 2019.
    I don’t see any Brexiteers laughing. You all give every impression of being nervous, tired and angry. Not a combination of desirable moods when one of you is about to become PM and therefore have their finger on the Trident trigger.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    What was there to love?
    But you make my point. There are many who do though
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    Yep - his response to the question from the Grauniad was an absolute gift to Farage. If I were an ERGer I would have got a terrible sinking feeling as he waffled on and on without answering it. He clearly has absolutely no idea what to do.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    TGOHF said:
    Not now, the Tories are busy tearing themselves apart.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    What was there to love?
    But you make my point. There are many who do though
    But even objectively, what leadership qualities were on display?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    but still better than Corbyn or Thornberry

    thats how bad our political line up is

    After his abject performance this morning I wonder how many people would agree.

  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    One of Johnson's liabilities that isn't often commented on is his stuttering, stammering delivery in answering questions. It's not a problem for him now, in fact it's part of his personal style, but as soon as pressure is really on him it will come across as incredibly evasive. It could be his equivalent of Nixon's sweat.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    What was there to love?
    But you make my point. There are many who do though
    But even objectively, what leadership qualities were on display?
    I am not a Boris supporter but his supporters will point to two London mayoral wins and the Olympics
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    perhaps you can explain why tax cuts for people in London who will never vote Conservative is an election winner ? Thats London, where the extra cash will simply lead to more house price inflation and a greater gap between North and South.

    Its complete Borishit

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    edited June 2019

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    Yep - his response to the question from the Grauniad was an absolute gift to Farage. If I were an ERGer I would have got a terrible sinking feeling as he waffled on and on without answering it. He clearly has absolutely no idea what to do.

    But Boris has one advantage over May. He seems able to employ people and let them get on and deliver for him. He wont be hiding everything and not telling anybody and shouting 'keep away from my precious' all the time. Nor is likely to just give people jobs soley because they are ultra loyal.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    GIN1138 said:

    Sky - Energetic and competent speech !!!

    As I was saying... The speech was perfectly fine. He got through the media questions OK. No major gaffes made in either the speech or the questions.

    No problem.
    He isn't going to lose support by not being quirky, he has to show he can look competent as well.

    This thread’s comments should probably be used as an example of confirmation bias to inform anyone who didn’t know what the phrase meant.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    Dura_Ace said:

    Whether we could sustain a continuous at sea ICBM deterrent without USN technical support is another question to which the answer is no.

    Absolutely true; for one thing, the Trident missiles are maintained and obtained from a common pool in the US. That means the US could, if they wanted, stop us from simply getting or repairing/maintaining the missiles.

    The situation is made worse by the tories' favourite stealth defence cut of running the armed forces at significantly under their theoretical headcount. (7% for the RN)

    The posts that go unfilled aren't blanket stackers and deck swabbers but the highly specialised technical roles like nuclear engineers.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    So the plan must be a GE instead, non? Unless, of course, you think the plan doesn't extend beyond "make me PM"? Which is possible.
    Yes, I think the plan is just 'make me PM and I'll wing it somehow'.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    He has drifted now, out to 1.65
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    So the plan must be a GE instead, non? Unless, of course, you think the plan doesn't extend beyond "make me PM"? Which is possible.
    It's a two stage plan:

    1) Make me PM.

    2) Erm... oh, cripes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,884

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    but still better than Corbyn or Thornberry

    thats how bad our political line up is

    After his abject performance this morning I wonder how many people would agree.

    Corbyn just shrieks like a student activist that he, in many ways, still is.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    And you are the exception that proves the rule?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    perhaps you can explain why tax cuts for people in London who will never vote Conservative is an election winner ? Thats London, where the extra cash will simply lead to more house price inflation and a greater gap between North and South.

    Its complete Borishit

    I do not support Boris
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    He has drifted now, out to 1.65

    Raab has plunged to 70s
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    but still better than Corbyn or Thornberry

    thats how bad our political line up is

    After his abject performance this morning I wonder how many people would agree.

    faced with the choice of Bumbling Boris or Emily ThornBeria Id chose the incompetent over the NKVD stalinist.

    It's a nose holder, theyre all out to make Farage look good.
  • It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    I think the key to the success of a PM Boris is appointing the right people to key cabinet positions. I would hope he would be a lot more collegiate than May. IMHO he needs to mend fences with Gove and make him Brexit secretary.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    Yep - his response to the question from the Grauniad was an absolute gift to Farage. If I were an ERGer I would have got a terrible sinking feeling as he waffled on and on without answering it. He clearly has absolutely no idea what to do.

    But Boris has one advantage over May. He seems able to employ people and let them get on and deliver for him. He wont be hiding everything and not telling anybody and shouting 'keep away from my precious' all the time. Nor is likely to just give people jobs soley because they are ultra loyal.
    And because he is too lazy for all the details. Tbh probably a good quality in a PM - micromanagers have not done well compared to big picture leaders.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TGOHF said:

    He has drifted now, out to 1.65

    Raab has plunged to 70s
    He's a decent bet if you think Boris blows himself up in the next few days.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    No major gaffs from Bozo .

    A safe speech you need to do when you’re the leading contender . However the journalists really just asked some stupid questions about his character which is already baked in .

    Never put him on the spot on his Brexit policy . Overall objectively I’d give him 7/10. His team will be happy .

    I think if he does the tv debates that would cause him much more problems . But I expect he’ll try and avoid them .
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653

    I think we can safely conclude after that abject performance that Johnson is going to be an even worse PM than May or Cameron.

    but still better than Corbyn or Thornberry

    thats how bad our political line up is

    After his abject performance this morning I wonder how many people would agree.

    faced with the choice of Bumbling Boris or Emily ThornBeria Id chose the incompetent over the NKVD stalinist.

    It's a nose holder, theyre all out to make Farage look good.

    Yep, I suspect Farage is the big winner from this morning.

  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    I think the key to the success of a PM Boris is appointing the right people to key cabinet positions. I would hope he would be a lot more collegiate than May. IMHO he needs to mend fences with Gove and make him Brexit secretary.
    Thats just personnel. It doesn't change the reality or the HOC numbers.

    There is no plan. He's just going to wing it, then cry betrayal as they always do.




  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    TGOHF said:

    He has drifted now, out to 1.65

    Raab has plunged to 70s
    It's probably about right now, Boris is swallowing his potential support whole.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    Yep - his response to the question from the Grauniad was an absolute gift to Farage. If I were an ERGer I would have got a terrible sinking feeling as he waffled on and on without answering it. He clearly has absolutely no idea what to do.

    But Boris has one advantage over May. He seems able to employ people and let them get on and deliver for him. He wont be hiding everything and not telling anybody and shouting 'keep away from my precious' all the time. Nor is likely to just give people jobs soley because they are ultra loyal.

    Yep - that may well be the case. But where it leads is to no Brexit on 31st October. And that destroys the Tories, probably forever.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    I think the key to the success of a PM Boris is appointing the right people to key cabinet positions. I would hope he would be a lot more collegiate than May. IMHO he needs to mend fences with Gove and make him Brexit secretary.
    Thats just personnel. It doesn't change the reality or the HOC numbers.

    There is no plan. He's just going to wing it, then cry betrayal as they always do.




    Let's hope we are all wrong.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Rorymania sweeps the nation. I haven't seen the British public this excited about a political movement since CUK!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217

    TGOHF said:

    He has drifted now, out to 1.65

    Raab has plunged to 70s
    He's a decent bet if you think Boris blows himself up in the next few days.
    Lynton will lock him up in a bunker I expect now.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Rorymania sweeps the nation. I haven't seen the British public this excited about a political movement since CUK!
    Haha :D
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    Corbyn talking about Anne Frank ffs. Shameless.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133

    Corbyn talking about Anne Frank ffs. Shameless.

    My wife was utterly disgusted
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    Pulpstar said:

    Boris is just the Maybot with a glitzier front-end to the app, but still making exactly the same political blunders. Passing a loaded bazooka to Nigel Farage, ready for use when the 31st October deadline is missed, is incomprehensibly stupid.

    Yep - his response to the question from the Grauniad was an absolute gift to Farage. If I were an ERGer I would have got a terrible sinking feeling as he waffled on and on without answering it. He clearly has absolutely no idea what to do.

    But Boris has one advantage over May. He seems able to employ people and let them get on and deliver for him. He wont be hiding everything and not telling anybody and shouting 'keep away from my precious' all the time. Nor is likely to just give people jobs soley because they are ultra loyal.
    And because he is too lazy for all the details. Tbh probably a good quality in a PM - micromanagers have not done well compared to big picture leaders.
    Yes. Thatcher is an oddity I would say. Very details, very long hours, highly briefed, totally on top of the red boxes. Yet able to keep the vision in clear sight.


  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Corbyn talking about Anne Frank ffs. Shameless.

    My wife was utterly disgusted
    That is beyond parody.

    Not bothering to watch. Did he say there were good people on both sides?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Boris leads on Anne Frank - then welcomes his new MP..
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    TGOHF said:

    Boris leads on Anne Frank - then welcomes his new MP..

    You have Boris on the brain .... :wink:
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    TGOHF said:

    Boris leads on Anne Frank - then welcomes his new MP..

    Boris leads ??
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Johnson: let the police stop and search any young people who look like they might be up to something illegal. Also: it's nobody's business if I took coke when I was 19.
    One rule for OEs, one rule for the plebs.

    How many 54 year old plebs do you know who are being questioned in a job interview as to what they did or did not take at 19?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    TGOHF said:

    Boris leads on Anne Frank - then welcomes his new MP..

    Boris isn't LOTO yet.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,133
    TGOHF said:

    Boris leads on Anne Frank - then welcomes his new MP..

    Not Boris - Corbyn said it
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    Soon be time to start the stockpiling again I reckon.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Johnson: let the police stop and search any young people who look like they might be up to something illegal. Also: it's nobody's business if I took coke when I was 19.
    One rule for OEs, one rule for the plebs.

    How many 54 year old plebs do you know who are being questioned in a job interview as to what they did or did not take at 19?
    I found it strange that Gove was labelled a hypocrite for suggesting lifetime bans for teachers caught with Class A drugs now, because he had used them in the past.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    It does seem to me that the comments on here re Boris are perfectly predictable.

    He is a marmite character, you either love him or hate him

    I think the key to the success of a PM Boris is appointing the right people to key cabinet positions. I would hope he would be a lot more collegiate than May. IMHO he needs to mend fences with Gove and make him Brexit secretary.
    Gove or Raab for Brexit Secretary.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798

    Johnson: let the police stop and search any young people who look like they might be up to something illegal. Also: it's nobody's business if I took coke when I was 19.
    One rule for OEs, one rule for the plebs.

    How many 54 year old plebs do you know who are being questioned in a job interview as to what they did or did not take at 19?
    How many 54 year old plebs get to decide drugs and policing policy?
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