"Bad news for Theresa May's Brussels trip as EU leaders will give her only 10 minutes of their time "
"The European Union is poised to reject Theresa May’s demands for “legally binding assurances” that the Irish backstop will only ever be temporary, senior EU diplomats have told Telegraph."
It's a line they won't cross. Unhelpfully as it really does seem like the deal has at least a chance if they would bend on that point.
It's especially unhelpful since if they won't bend, they will themselves have to erect a hard border in Ireland, the very thing they claim they were trying to avoid.
Yes, it would be a comprehensive win. Enough to tell the ERG to shut up and vote for the deal.
I'm sure they'll get right on it - it's no longer a humiliating submission to eternal domination at the hands of the EU.
I think anyone who votes against could reasonably have the whip withdrawn.
And then what? A General Election?
If they don't fall in line I don't see any other option. If May has won convincingly then they need to fall in line with the party. Fuck principles.
And then it still doesn't have the numbers to pass.
With every Tory falling in line it would need 3 Labour MPs to vote with the government. There are more than three Labour MPs who will vote for the deal vs no deal or no brexit.
Yes, it would be a comprehensive win. Enough to tell the ERG to shut up and vote for the deal.
I'm sure they'll get right on it - it's no longer a humiliating submission to eternal domination at the hands of the EU.
I think anyone who votes against could reasonably have the whip withdrawn.
And then what? A General Election?
If they don't fall in line I don't see any other option. If May has won convincingly then they need to fall in line with the party. Fuck principles.
And then it still doesn't have the numbers to pass.
With every Tory falling in line it would need 3 Labour MPs to vote with the government. There are more than three Labour MPs who will vote for the deal vs no deal or no brexit.
"Badly damaged but limping on" is the title of her autobiography.
May: The Downing Street Years
Volume 1: Strong And Stable Volume 2: Marginally Less Shit Than Corbyn Volume 3: Badly Damaged But Limping On Volume 4: Breathing With The Aid Of A Ventilator Volume 5: Oh God, Will This Ever End? Volume 6: Eddie Izzard, MP For Maidenhead
Penny Mordaunt and Louise Mensch may offer the way forward for a Toty party, at least for male voters. According to my wife Rory Stewart and Ivan Massow may also be eligible to join.
I like Rory Stewart. I often see him in Cumbria when out walking. A bit weird looking but tall and strangely attractive. Also he wrote quite an interesting book about the Scottish borderlands and Cumbria, which was really a sort of love letter to his father, who sounded like a real character.
Trudy Harrison, who is the local Tory MP, is also nice and helpful. She is helping on a local campaign to save the local swimming pool. Has a small majority so makes it her business to appear and spend time at every local event going.
Ivan Massow is gay, I think. So not much use to us ladies.
There is no-one else who is remotely f****able. Being pawed over by Boris would be like having a boiled potato all over you.
Just wondering - would a roast potato be any better?
Yes, it would be a comprehensive win. Enough to tell the ERG to shut up and vote for the deal.
I'm sure they'll get right on it - it's no longer a humiliating submission to eternal domination at the hands of the EU.
I think anyone who votes against could reasonably have the whip withdrawn.
And then what? A General Election?
If they don't fall in line I don't see any other option. If May has won convincingly then they need to fall in line with the party. Fuck principles.
And then it still doesn't have the numbers to pass.
With every Tory falling in line it would need 3 Labour MPs to vote with the government. There are more than three Labour MPs who will vote for the deal vs no deal or no brexit.
Flint, Mann, Austin I think.
Yeah, if every Tory MP were to vote for the deal, I think there'd be enough Labour MPs to get it through.
But the ERG "falling into line" seems pretty much a pipe dream...
Unfortunately, it is likely that is May loses, the Conservatives lose.
And I hope the winnets who put in the 48 letters lose their seats at the GE or are deselected.
You know nothing about the conservative party. Don't embarrass yourself.
Oooh, touchy.
But which piece are you responding to: that if May loses, the Conservatives also lose? Because if you don't believe that, then you don't know anything about the British electorate.
I have no opinion either way, I am sure you know nothing about the party or its inner workings. That much has been clear for a while.
Who is saying anything about the inner workings of the Conservative Party? What matters is the Great British Public. I cannot see any of the likely alternatives from the ERG lunatic fringe doing better at squaring the Brexit circle than May, or at being any more popular with the GBP.
Therefore, if she loses then the Conservatives lose.
You have no idea what conservative voters want. We aren't the party of EUphilia.
I know plenty of Conservative voters, and talk to a fair few. Whilst the Conservatives are not the party of EUphilia, they're also not the party of EUphobia either - that was UKIP. However much the ERGers are trying to make them so.
Conservatives should be trying to make the entire electorate their voters. They should be trying to attract as many people as possible to their vision of the future of the country. The sad thing is that the Conservative Europhobes have been doing exactly the opposite for decades - reducing the party's appeal, fighting others in the party, and looking backwards.
You are talking about the core vote, and if you only try to appeal to that - and especially only the EUphobic core - then the Conservatives lose, and lose big.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
What's he talking about - she needs at least 158 to win?
She needs a majority of votes cast. At most that will mean 159 out of 317, now that Charlie Elphicke and Andrew Griffiths have been reinstated.
If she wins and stays on, it will be so satisfying if she carries out an evening of the long knives against the ERGers in the cabinet. Boot the lot of them out without prior notice. That has about as much chance of happening as the nationalisation of the Sun.
Penny Mordaunt and Louise Mensch may offer the way forward for a Toty party, at least for male voters. According to my wife Rory Stewart and Ivan Massow may also be eligible to join.
I like Rory Stewart. I often see him in Cumbria when out walking. A bit weird looking but tall and strangely attractive. Also he wrote quite an interesting book about the Scottish borderlands and Cumbria, which was really a sort of love letter to his father, who sounded like a real character.
Trudy Harrison, who is the local Tory MP, is also nice and helpful. She is helping on a local campaign to save the local swimming pool. Has a small majority so makes it her business to appear and spend time at every local event going.
Ivan Massow is gay, I think. So not much use to us ladies.
There is no-one else who is remotely f****able. Being pawed over by Boris would be like having a boiled potato all over you.
Just wondering - would a roast potato be any better?
A roast potato is better than most things and certainly better than sex with Boris (I imagine - I do have some standards, you know).
What's he talking about - she needs at least 158 to win?
She needs a majority of votes cast. At most that will mean 159 out of 317, now that Charlie Elphicke and Andrew Griffiths have been reinstated.
If she wins and stays on, it will be so satisfying if she carries out an evening of the long knives against the ERGers in the cabinet. Boot the lot of them out without prior notice. That has about as much chance of happening as the nationalisation of the Sun.
And if it did they'd all be screaming blue Murdoch...
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
That's a good point. When might he give it a go?
(a) as soon as possible, (b) after the Withdrawal Agreement is voted down, or (c) keep waiting til April and hope May ends up in charge of No Deal and makes as much of a mess of it as we would expect?
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
What's he talking about - she needs at least 158 to win?
She needs a majority of votes cast. At most that will mean 159 out of 317, now that Charlie Elphicke and Andrew Griffiths have been reinstated.
If she wins and stays on, it will be so satisfying if she carries out an evening of the long knives against the ERGers in the cabinet. Boot the lot of them out without prior notice. That has about as much chance of happening as the nationalisation of the Sun.
Talking of the Sun (and going way off-topic), is your username anything to do with a certain cloud?
Yes, it would be a comprehensive win. Enough to tell the ERG to shut up and vote for the deal.
I'm sure they'll get right on it - it's no longer a humiliating submission to eternal domination at the hands of the EU.
I think anyone who votes against could reasonably have the whip withdrawn.
And then what? A General Election?
If they don't fall in line I don't see any other option. If May has won convincingly then they need to fall in line with the party. Fuck principles.
And then it still doesn't have the numbers to pass.
With every Tory falling in line it would need 3 Labour MPs to vote with the government. There are more than three Labour MPs who will vote for the deal vs no deal or no brexit.
Fair enough, it would be closer than I recognised. Now, how many, realistically, will not do so under any circumstances? 10? 20? 30?
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
Yes that would do it. Although it might also cause her to lose a HoC VoNC
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
Leave with May’s deal vs Leave with no deal. Remain have already lost.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
Penny Mordaunt and Louise Mensch may offer the way forward for a Toty party, at least for male voters. According to my wife Rory Stewart and Ivan Massow may also be eligible to join.
I like Rory Stewart. I often see him in Cumbria when out walking. A bit weird looking but tall and strangely attractive. Also he wrote quite an interesting book about the Scottish borderlands and Cumbria, which was really a sort of love letter to his father, who sounded like a real character.
Trudy Harrison, who is the local Tory MP, is also nice and helpful. She is helping on a local campaign to save the local swimming pool. Has a small majority so makes it her business to appear and spend time at every local event going.
Ivan Massow is gay, I think. So not much use to us ladies.
There is no-one else who is remotely f****able. Being pawed over by Boris would be like having a boiled potato all over you.
You've tried this? I mean I know you used to work in London which is a very strange place but wow.
My assumption was that she's had the boiled potato and was extrapolating to Boris. But happy to be corrected.
Unfortunately, it is likely that is May loses, the Conservatives lose.
And I hope the winnets who put in the 48 letters lose their seats at the GE or are deselected.
You know nothing about the conservative party. Don't embarrass yourself.
Oooh, touchy.
But which piece are you responding to: that if May loses, the Conservatives also lose? Because if you don't believe that, then you don't know anything about the British electorate.
I have no opinion either way, I am sure you know nothing about the party or its inner workings. That much has been clear for a while.
Who is saying anything about the inner workings of the Conservative Party? What matters is the Great British Public. I cannot see any of the likely alternatives from the ERG lunatic fringe doing better at squaring the Brexit circle than May, or at being any more popular with the GBP.
Therefore, if she loses then the Conservatives lose.
You have no idea what conservative voters want. We aren't the party of EUphilia.
I know plenty of Conservative voters, and talk to a fair few. Whilst the Conservatives are not the party of EUphilia, they're also not the party of EUphobia either - that was UKIP. However much the ERGers are trying to make them so.
Conservatives should be trying to make the entire electorate their voters. They should be trying to attract as many people as possible to their vision of the future of the country. The sad thing is that the Conservative Europhobes have been doing exactly the opposite for decades - reducing the party's appeal, fighting others in the party, and looking backwards.
You are talking about the core vote, and if you only try to appeal to that - and especially only the EUphobic core - then the Conservatives lose, and lose big.
Hence my comment.
+1 Many of the long-term Tory voters I know are appalled by Brexit. They are not new ones who voted Tory perhaps for the first time in 2017 but people who have voted Tory for decades. Brexit will just do harm to the Tories as they are going to take a hit electorally whether it is Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit or Remain. The least damaging in my opinion is Remain,
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
That's an added bonus then!
It's also why that will never be the choice. I don't like May very much but she's not completely stupid.
Penny Mordaunt and Louise Mensch may offer the way forward for a Toty party, at least for male voters. According to my wife Rory Stewart and Ivan Massow may also be eligible to join.
I like Rory Stewart. I often see him in Cumbria when out walking. A bit weird looking but tall and strangely attractive. Also he wrote quite an interesting book about the Scottish borderlands and Cumbria, which was really a sort of love letter to his father, who sounded like a real character.
Trudy Harrison, who is the local Tory MP, is also nice and helpful. She is helping on a local campaign to save the local swimming pool. Has a small majority so makes it her business to appear and spend time at every local event going.
Ivan Massow is gay, I think. So not much use to us ladies.
There is no-one else who is remotely f****able. Being pawed over by Boris would be like having a boiled potato all over you.
You've tried this? I mean I know you used to work in London which is a very strange place but wow.
My assumption was that she's had the boiled potato and was extrapolating to Boris. But happy to be corrected.
I am happy to confirm that I have never had Boris in any way, shape or form. It is an utter mystery to me why any sentient woman would want to get closer to him than a handshake, since he has - to me - all the sex appeal of a lukewarm, slightly flaky, over-boiled potato (i.e. for the avoidance of doubt - none). He also looks as if he doesn't wash very often.
If (say) 90 MPs or fewer are against May, how stupid and incompetent does this make the ERGers look? They had the farce of the repeated claims about 48 letters being in over the last month, and when they finally do get them, they can't even put the knife in well.
As I said a while back: they are all tactics and no strategy.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
That's an added bonus then!
It's also why that will never be the choice. I don't like May very much but she's not completely stupid.
Do you think she's stupid enough to let the country accidentally slip into No Deal Brexit? Because that might be the alternative to a 2nd referendum.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
That's an added bonus then!
It's also why that will never be the choice. I don't like May very much but she's not completely stupid.
It would be nice if the national interest was occasionally prioritised versus the internal politics of the conservative party. We need an outcome and clarity.
Assuming May wins, today will have solved nothing at all. The same problems exist tomorrow, for both the Conservative Party and the country.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Well quite. A nice little detour. But the deal still doesn’t have a majority. Erg just need to wait to win. Whereas May has to offer Labour something.
Tick.
Tock.
I think that's right - she has to offer Labour something. Unfortunately, I am not sure she gets that.
Or go for a referendum. Leave with the May Deal or Remain.
You may as well serve the Tory party it's last rites with that kind of choice presented to the public.
The Tories are going to take a hit anyway. Allowing Remain on the ballot in a referendum might actually save the Tories in the long-run. You might not like it but that is tough luck! Go back to UKIP and rant about Europe to your hearts content.
Penny Mordaunt and Louise Mensch may offer the way forward for a Toty party, at least for male voters. According to my wife Rory Stewart and Ivan Massow may also be eligible to join.
I like Rory Stewart. I often see him in Cumbria when out walking. A bit weird looking but tall and strangely attractive. Also he wrote quite an interesting book about the Scottish borderlands and Cumbria, which was really a sort of love letter to his father, who sounded like a real character.
Trudy Harrison, who is the local Tory MP, is also nice and helpful. She is helping on a local campaign to save the local swimming pool. Has a small majority so makes it her business to appear and spend time at every local event going.
Ivan Massow is gay, I think. So not much use to us ladies.
There is no-one else who is remotely f****able. Being pawed over by Boris would be like having a boiled potato all over you.
You've tried this? I mean I know you used to work in London which is a very strange place but wow.
My assumption was that she's had the boiled potato and was extrapolating to Boris. But happy to be corrected.
I am happy to confirm that I have never had Boris in any way, shape or form. It is an utter mystery to me why any sentient woman would want to get closer to him than a handshake, since he has - to me - all the sex appeal of a lukewarm, slightly flaky, over-boiled potato (i.e. for the avoidance of doubt - none). He also looks as if he doesn't wash very often.
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Volume 1: Strong And Stable
Volume 2: Marginally Less Shit Than Corbyn
Volume 3: Badly Damaged But Limping On
Volume 4: Breathing With The Aid Of A Ventilator
Volume 5: Oh God, Will This Ever End?
Volume 6: Eddie Izzard, MP For Maidenhead
Worrying times.
But the ERG "falling into line" seems pretty much a pipe dream...
Conservatives should be trying to make the entire electorate their voters. They should be trying to attract as many people as possible to their vision of the future of the country. The sad thing is that the Conservative Europhobes have been doing exactly the opposite for decades - reducing the party's appeal, fighting others in the party, and looking backwards.
You are talking about the core vote, and if you only try to appeal to that - and especially only the EUphobic core - then the Conservatives lose, and lose big.
Hence my comment.
What has got worse is that the EU knows it needs to offer her nothing - because no-one else is now going to come in to re-negotiate with them. And May can't be bounced out, however crap her performance with them.
Corbyn now knows he will face May if he can get a VONC through - and get to face her again in any General Election he can cause. Quite an incentive now....
Bloody Tories, grrrrr...
If she wins and stays on, it will be so satisfying if she carries out an evening of the long knives against the ERGers in the cabinet. Boot the lot of them out without prior notice. That has about as much chance of happening as the nationalisation of the Sun.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/electoral_commission_pdf_file/0009/110043/May-referendum-doubtful-placemat-2011.pdf
(a) as soon as possible,
(b) after the Withdrawal Agreement is voted down, or
(c) keep waiting til April and hope May ends up in charge of No Deal and makes as much of a mess of it as we would expect?
So many delicious opportunities!
Tick.
Tock.
That's because they're mainly full of ex-front benchers.
https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1072946022723321857
Half past midnight for me, alarm goes off five hours from now!
Dave always knew if Remain lost he'd have to resign.
Edit - oy, @kle4!
As I said a while back: they are all tactics and no strategy.