DUP aren't going to let Corbyn and McDonnell anywhere near the levers of power.
Hardly what the Tories were hoping for though. The DUP will want a soft Brexit in return for their support
The issue of the NI/Republic border is going to be taking up about 90% of the time of the Brexit team. Hardly ideal. And yes, they will be wanting a soft Brexit to implement what is best for NI.
isnt stormont a crisis waiting to erupt too?
There is a chance that if the UK Govt. is seen as wholly in the pocket of the DUP when it comes to matters Northern Irish, then the Shinners might have to reconsider not taking their Westminster seats.....
Anybody looking to gloat or wanting money, contact me by PM , I am extremely busy at work so will have little time to be on PB. Happy to pay out as it was a great night, Tories hoist by their own petard, the donkeys from Scotland will be useless and the morons that voted for them will get their comeuppance. Independence more likely than ever.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
JJ's putting it more strongly than I would, but the arrogant underestimate how much they are resented.
And you guys were worried about abuse from Momentum
We're the sort of people the entitled, inherited rich such as Charles need to keep on side. He's surprisingly lost me, and from last night's result I guess others.
You mention debt reduction. I just don't see it. The Cons barely had a majority for deficit reduction with a parliamentary majority; look at the NIC u-turn or back to the tax credits issue when Osborne was still at number 11. How are they going to drill down on it as a minority?
Running through the results. In betting terms, England poor to dire, Scotland super, overall numbers good for Lib Dems/UKIP, bad for the Conservatives.
Glad the Lib Dems got 12 because I backed them to be over 11.5 at 1.83.
Got up at half four or so to see how things were going. Saw the winner's speech of the chap who beat Salmond, so that was something.
Trying to see the positives of such a hopelessly Hung Parliament. Maybe we'll be spared the economic insanity of Corbyn and the authoritarian meddling of May.
Commiserations to Mr. Price, whose efforts were undone by the insanity of Timothy/May.
I don't think it's hopelessly hung: all the Tories need to pass a Queen's Speech is the DUP to abstain.
But positives?
1) The SNP have gone massively backwards 2) We now have a chance at a more consensual Leave solution, with the two parties that wanted to overturn the referendum result collectively going backwards and the two parties that accepted it winning 580 seats between them.
- ICM are the gold standard - 18-24 year olds don't vote - All UKIP voters are Tories on holiday - Lynton Crosby knows what he's doing - The electorate wants Hard Brexit
The youth turnout is genuinely encouraging, whatever people think of the result. Grey power should not be the only driver for manifestos.
- ICM are the gold standard - 18-24 year olds don't vote - All UKIP voters are Tories on holiday - Lynton Crosby knows what he's doing - The electorate wants Hard Brexit
- bad weather favours the Tories, it pissed down all day in Lancaster and Fleetwood
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
That sounds like someone who has overextended themselves....
I wonder how many people are happy this morning, I didn't vote but I'm poorer as a result of lost bets. Corbyn now has a mandate to lead Labour for as long as he wants which will displease plenty of labour voters, the tories are in chaos, the libs are gone, ukip and greens finished.
I think he worst thing people can do at this time is be personal on the internet. The result is the responsibility of nobody but the powers that be in each party.
What a strange result - personally thrilled that the Tories gained Middlesbrough South. That result means a lot to me.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
Why would Corbyn be washed away in an October election if his QS gets voted down?
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
Why would Corbyn be washed away in an October election if his QS gets voted down?
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
'Lose my house'
Which house is that?
'educate my daughter in the way we want.'
I daresay many people would want to educate her in that manner. Would you want to move to Wandsworth and send her to the local school?
You fuck off. You are privileged, and have lived a life of privilege. good on you. I actually quite like you, but your patrician bullshit grows weary. Try living a real life.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Gordon Brown situation was very different - he lost 100 seats and Conservatives were by a long way the largest party. She has lost 20 and is still by a long way the largest party.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
That sounds like someone who has overextended themselves....
That sounds like pretty much every person I've ever met.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
'Lose my house'
Which house is that?
'educate my daughter in the way we want.'
I daresay many people would want to educate her in that manner. Would you want to move to Wandsworth and send her to the local school?
You fuck off. You are privileged, and have lived a life of privilege. good on you. I actually quite like you, but your patrician bullshit grows weary. Try living a real life.
I suggest you take a break, this is no one's fault but May's. Nobody asked for this.
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
The last thing this country needs now is 4 months of chaos in government followed by another election of unpredictable outcome. If May does a deal with the DUP she has the votes to govern, at least for a while. She's right to do so.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Why is there any "urgency" to usher her out. The Conservatives have the numbers to pass a Queens speech. There is a five year parliament ahead. They can have a leadership contest in 2 years if they want. They've got boundary changes to come, and who knows if Corbyn will manage to blow up the Labour party again in the mean time.
The country has rejected austerity and hard Brexit. May should go and allow Corbyn his constitutional right to attempt a QS, vote it down and be washed away in an October election. She blew it. She offered nothing to vote for. Corbyn offered hope, albeit pie in the sky. The country wants hope. If they struggle on like major 93-97 then a Labour landslide will follow. Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites. Utter chaos.
Why would Corbyn be washed away in an October election if his QS gets voted down?
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Why is there any "urgency" to usher her out. The Conservatives have the numbers to pass a Queens speech. There is a five year parliament ahead. They can have a leadership contest in 2 years if they want. They've got boundary changes to come, and who knows if Corbyn will manage to blow up the Labour party again in the mean time.
Because her authority is gone. Any government will be on a knife edge, and will require tactical and strategic adroitness from the prime minister. Qualities she has demonstrated in very, very small teaspoonfuls.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Gordon Brown situation was very different - he lost 100 seats and Conservatives were by a long way the largest party. She has lost 20 and is still by a long way the largest party.
Quite so. And with a route to a reasonably stable Govt. with the DUP.
Brexit discussions start with the EU in 10 days. Maybe. Surely we can't have them headed by Prime Minister May when everyone on the other side of the table is waiting for her to leave to see what position her successor will adopt?
Apparently Labour are about 30 votes ahead in Kensington. Tories keep requesting recounts and it's now been delayed until this afternoon or possibly tomorrow.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Why is there any "urgency" to usher her out. The Conservatives have the numbers to pass a Queens speech. There is a five year parliament ahead. They can have a leadership contest in 2 years if they want. They've got boundary changes to come, and who knows if Corbyn will manage to blow up the Labour party again in the mean time.
Because her authority is gone. Any government will be on a knife edge, and will require tactical and strategic adroitness from the prime minister. Qualities she has demonstrated in very, very small teaspoonfuls.
+1
She has been destroyed. Corbyn - yes, Corbyn - has bested her. How can anyone remain under such ignominy?
Kuenessburg saying that May isn't going to resign.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
I'm sure she will, she should wait for all the results though.
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
1922 need to step in, now, and tell her she's done.
She has the constitutional right to stay on if she has a majority in the HoC.
Heath stayed on for 18 months in 1974/75 after his 'sell by date'. Including an election which Wilson won by 4.
Give her 4 months, time for a leadership election and an autumn GE which will be 'interesting' if the young are energised by this and a few more register in marginals.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Why is there any "urgency" to usher her out. The Conservatives have the numbers to pass a Queens speech. There is a five year parliament ahead. They can have a leadership contest in 2 years if they want. They've got boundary changes to come, and who knows if Corbyn will manage to blow up the Labour party again in the mean time.
Forget the boundary changes.
They are bad for the DUP - no chance they'll pass.
Kuenessburg saying that May isn't going to resign.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
I'm sure she will, she should wait for all the results though.
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
My generation would dislike any Conservative leader.
If Conservatives are going to replace May they need a proper leadership election to do it. Not a stitch up to rush in a new PM. As I say the Government is not under threat. Have a leadership election in a couple of years once we see how Brexit negotiations are working out.
Just takes 5 Con MPs to refuse to back her QS and she's done.
They won't do that. They've been elected under s conservative banner and are basically bound to support a QS put forward by the Conservative party, unless they want to be deselected.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
'Lose my house'
Which house is that?
'educate my daughter in the way we want.'
I daresay many people would want to educate her in that manner. Would you want to move to Wandsworth and send her to the local school?
You fuck off. You are privileged, and have lived a life of privilege. good on you. I actually quite like you, but your patrician bullshit grows weary. Try living a real life.
I suggest you take a break, this is no one's fault but May's. Nobody asked for this.
I suggest you butt out. She asked for this, and the lemmings in the Conservative party went running over the edge of the precipice at her behest. It all looked so different a few weeks ago, didn't it?
Kuenessburg saying that May isn't going to resign.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
I'm sure she will, she should wait for all the results though.
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
My generation would dislike any Conservative leader.
North Cornwall - Con SE Cornwall - Con Kensington - ?? ?? ??
St Austell & Newquay.
Berwick, Wansbeck and Blyth were supposed to be counting later on, but they've already declared so must have changed their mind without telling the PA.
The people want change. That's obvious from Brexit and this election, even if the idiots screeching for change over the EU did not realise it.
Let him fuck up. The alternative is to let a wounded Conservative party fester on like a particularly odorous zombie.
Oh, and let the Brexiteers who are rucking off or have resources abroad - like MaxPB, Charles and sadly RCS - pay the consequences of their folly.
So many people need to look up the definition of 'conservative'.
Excuse me, but that was rather uncalled for.
Nah, not really. You're mostly insulated from the shit that's about to fall on us.
Witness the 200 million you were willing seen spent on the Garden Bridge to help the local poor urchins (ahem). You'll just piss off abroad; and even if you do not, you can afford the tax advisers to ensure you and your kids are sorted.
I cannot. I'll pay for your folly.
No, I won't. And we don't tax plan: we have a moral obligation to pay what society asks and to tithe as well.
Get some sleep. This kind of personalised bitchiness is not doing you any favours
Are you denying what I'm saying? Will you suffer in reality if it all goes tits-up?
I.e. will you have to start looking at the prices on the bread?
No. You are insulated, whatever 'society asks' .
Well I have a job with a salary that pays my mortgage. If I lose that then I could lose my house. And wouldn't be able to educate my daughter in the way we want. I reckon that counts as "suffering".
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
That sounds like someone who has overextended themselves....
Nah - same as most people. The only difference is wanted our kid educated in the US system so free education isn't an option
Kuenessburg saying that May isn't going to resign.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
I'm sure she will, she should wait for all the results though.
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
My generation would dislike any Conservative leader.
I wonder about the unthinkable - Sinn Fein propping up a Corbyn government ?
Stop worrying. It would require them to take the oath of allegiance, which there are no circumstances in which they would do.
Heh - I wan't personally worrying, as I'd prefer a Corbyn government to a May one on balance, but I definitely wouldn't be happy in the bizarre circumstance of them being in government.
Kuenessburg saying that May isn't going to resign.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
I'm sure she will, she should wait for all the results though.
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
My generation would dislike any Conservative leader.
Out of interest how old are you?
Early twenties.
Thanks, and may I ask why you would dislike any conservative leader?
I'm not keen on May and disliked Cameron immensely but quite liked Major.
The keep calm and carry on brigade forget that Theresa May's biggest problem will be the 20 or so people sitting round the cabinet table who are damn sure they could do a better job than her.
The men in grey suits will have called by the end of the day and prized her out by her fingernails.
I doubt that. Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader. I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Why is there any "urgency" to usher her out. The Conservatives have the numbers to pass a Queens speech. There is a five year parliament ahead. They can have a leadership contest in 2 years if they want. They've got boundary changes to come, and who knows if Corbyn will manage to blow up the Labour party again in the mean time.
Relying on Corbyn cocking it up? That's worked so far...
I suggest you butt out. She asked for this, and the lemmings in the Conservative party went running over the edge of the precipice at her behest. It all looked so different a few weeks ago, didn't it?
Chill. Or you're going to get no enjoyment out of today.
The keep calm and carry on brigade forget that Theresa May's biggest problem will be the 20 or so people sitting round the cabinet table who are damn sure they could do a better job than her.
Most of whom will have a better chance in a couple of years time.
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Now, about that thread about a Willie!
Happy to pay out as it was a great night, Tories hoist by their own petard, the donkeys from Scotland will be useless and the morons that voted for them will get their comeuppance. Independence more likely than ever.
And I already look at the pride of bread.
Now just fuck off, ok?
But he's okay, as he's protected.
You mention debt reduction. I just don't see it. The Cons barely had a majority for deficit reduction with a parliamentary majority; look at the NIC u-turn or back to the tax credits issue when Osborne was still at number 11. How are they going to drill down on it as a minority?
But positives?
1) The SNP have gone massively backwards
2) We now have a chance at a more consensual Leave solution, with the two parties that wanted to overturn the referendum result collectively going backwards and the two parties that accepted it winning 580 seats between them.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/went-wrong-tories/
https://twitter.com/BarryCaffrey/status/873057254748020738
Could be worse.
The only sad panda moment is that I partially laid off my £35 at 14/1 on Tory >9.5 seats in Scotland to make it a free bet.
She's a bloody difficult woman.
Go. NOW.
Or she appeals for National coalition with the moderate labourites.
Utter chaos.
Interesting times.
What a strange result - personally thrilled that the Tories gained Middlesbrough South. That result means a lot to me.
Also, I'm glad I hedged the Richmond Park Lib Dems 26 tip from Mr. Putney, just wish I'd done the same when Cons had lay 1.7 for 350-399 seats.
Alas. I did lay them for an overall majority, which halved my Con seat numbers loss.
Mr. Charles, and Mr. Jessop, come on, chaps. This is meant to be a happy website. Let's not argue about who killed who.
Of course she has to go - but equally announcing a resignation this morning would be ridiculous. A government of some sort has to be formed, and that wouldn't be possible without a Conservative leader.
I do not like her at all, but one thing May unquestionable has is a sense of duty. She'll hang on until this dust settles.
And if she doesn't then go, she'll be ushered out very quickly.
Which house is that?
'educate my daughter in the way we want.'
I daresay many people would want to educate her in that manner. Would you want to move to Wandsworth and send her to the local school?
You fuck off. You are privileged, and have lived a life of privilege. good on you. I actually quite like you, but your patrician bullshit grows weary. Try living a real life.
Lab Gain Kensington.
Con Gain Mansfield.
I suspect this assumption about the youth vote is not entirely right, and we'll see a reversion to the mean over time.
Best bet: Ynys Mons ~ £70 @ 12-1
1922 need to step in, now, and tell her she's done.
May is taking the absolute p*ss here. She has no business continuing as PM after leading her party and country to this disaster.
Any government will be on a knife edge, and will require tactical and strategic adroitness from the prime minister. Qualities she has demonstrated in very, very small teaspoonfuls.
Brexit discussions start with the EU in 10 days. Maybe. Surely we can't have them headed by Prime Minister May when everyone on the other side of the table is waiting for her to leave to see what position her successor will adopt?
She has been destroyed. Corbyn - yes, Corbyn - has bested her. How can anyone remain under such ignominy?
Safe to say I didn't call those extra Labour votes last night! At least the Tory vote was where I expected. Quite an irony if the youth surge leads to Boris as PM, they would hate that.
Heath stayed on for 18 months in 1974/75 after his 'sell by date'. Including an election which Wilson won by 4.
Give her 4 months, time for a leadership election and an autumn GE which will be 'interesting' if the young are energised by this and a few more register in marginals.
They are bad for the DUP - no chance they'll pass.
North Cornwall - Con
SE Cornwall - Con
Kensington - ??
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I guess we wait for her statement this morning.
No need to resign. Do what you have to with the DUP. Get Brexit out the way, find a safe seat for Ruth, and hand over in time next election.
Berwick, Wansbeck and Blyth were supposed to be counting later on, but they've already declared so must have changed their mind without telling the PA.
Well done, ladies!
I'm not keen on May and disliked Cameron immensely but quite liked Major.