Wasn't one of the reasons for dropping Gove that he couldn't be trusted with information re his friends at Murdoch papers? Wouldn't be wonderful for keeping her cards close to her chest.
People need to get over this Nick Timothy thing, I'm starting to feel sorry for the poor guy - if an underling comes up with a crap idea, but you are the decision maker, it's still your fault for not realising it was so crap. That's why you're in charge and they're not.
Gove is certainly a cock but a willie Whitelaw I don't think so! Whitelaw was popular with the party, he was a one-nation paternalist.
I notice the daily Telegraph are saying that Corbyn has been monitored by the security services for actions related to undermining democracy. Abbott has as well! I would never have thought that!
FPT The thing is.... the LibDem voters in North Norfolk are all getting on a bit. Many of them are dying off. That's how the Tories took the Council in 2011 without putting up candidates in all the seats and retained most of those in 2015. Yes, there's been leakage in focused Council by elections since but that's where the LDs do well with their mobile troops.
A normal constituency will have a 8pc voter churn per year - that is, most people will move every 12 years. Now, I know some people move within the constituency but in places like North Norfolk a disproportionate number of them move to another place the other side of St Peter's Pearly Gates.
The point is that the number of people who remember that nice young Mr Lamb is diminishing as age claims them. And that means incumbency isn't what it was for him.
Meanwhile - in Norwich South - remember that the number of electors registered to vote in University Ward [University of East Anglia] is 35% down on what theory would suggest. And even if the youngsters had registered to vote [which they haven't], they're all on holiday now anyway.
That's the funny thing with Universities nowadays and their new fangled semesters. They break-up for the Summer hols in Mid May and don't come back until Late Sept.
So Labour's hopes of domination in the 'Southern University Towns' suffer from a double whammy that the pollsters have missed:
1 Many of the youngsters who say they'll vote for Corbyn aren;t registered to vote 2 Even if they are, they're on holiday 3 Or lusting after Jessica on Love Island
Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot rcs1000 said: » show previous quotes They have to be odds on. But I personally like Lamb, and were I in the constituency, I would vote for him.
Labour have fallen hook line and sinker into the massive bear trap of this Slough speech.
The Tories can now spend the entire day tomorrow saying that Labour care more about the human rights of terrorists than the rights of innocent Britons.
Wasn't one of the reasons for dropping Gove that he couldn't be trusted with information re his friends at Murdoch papers? Wouldn't be wonderful for keeping her cards close to her chest.
Your right - The HM Queen story was alleged to have come from Gove. That knackers him for ever being a Minister IMO.
People need to get over this Nick Timothy thing, I'm starting to feel sorry for the poor guy - if an underling comes up with a crap idea, but you are the decision maker, it's still your fault for not realising it was so crap. That's why you're in charge and they're not.
You still don't get this PB Tory stuff do you. Never bosses fault.
Wasn't one of the reasons for dropping Gove that he couldn't be trusted with information re his friends at Murdoch papers? Wouldn't be wonderful for keeping her cards close to her chest.
Your right - The HM Queen story was alleged to have come from Gove. That knackers him for ever being a Minister IMO.
Just got back from a packed CCHQ phonebank for my final phoning session of the campaign. Phoned in Walsall, Wolverhampton, Mansfield and Delyn and Wakefield. The response was generally positive and although I got a few Labour voters there was a clear preference for May over Corbyn, comments included 'I have been a Labour voter all my life but will be voting for May this time', 'I would not trust that man to look after my dog let alone the country' and 'I would vote for her 5 times if I could'. Mary Creagh does seem to have a bit of a personal vote in Wakefield though
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
I have attempted to create my own election prediction, of both seats and percentage.
Starting point is the 2015 election. Assume every vote cast then will be the same the time, and then apply various factors to change the votes. Factors are applied UNS (uniform national swing).
Factors:
(1) UKIP meltdown. Assume UKIP drops to 3.8% nationally, with the votes going to both LAB and CON. For all UKIP2015 votes, into 2017, we decide that 30% remain UKIP, 20% switch to LAB and 50% switch to CON. Straight away this takes CON seats from 330 (UK2015) to 348; while LAB drop from 231 to 218. CON 348 (43%), LAB 218 (33%)
(2) LD to LAB swing. I think Farron hasn't the best campaign, and so some LD will split to LAB. Assume 20% of LD goes to LAB (high, but I want to overstate LAB in this model). Seats are now: CON 346 (43%), LAB 222 (35%)
(3) Youth surge. This extent of this has been debated, and is the main source of variance in the mainstream models. In UK2015 the 18-24 group had a turnout of 43%. What will it be in 2017, and can it win the election for LAB? There are almost 6 million voters in this range; for this model we need a fraction which will vote, and how they will vote. Lets give Survation / LAB benefit of the doubt, and assume 18-24 will have 70% turnout, splitting 70% to LAB and 15% to CON. That's about extra 1.1m votes to LAB, and 240,000 to CON. Applying UNS, we now get: CON 332 (42%), LAB 236 (37%). This is a big move, taking difference between parties from 124 to 96.
(4) LAB to CON. Not all labour voters are onboard the Corbyn train. This was evident at the start of the election, but has reduced over time, testament to the campaigning of Corbyn and appeal of his policies. So final adjustment is to add in a LAB to CON swing. At the start of the election, this might have been huge, eg, 10%, but given what's happened over course of last four weeks, we set it to 3%. This is low, and again favours LAB. So we are saying 3% of LAB are going direct to CON. Seats now: CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%). This is a big effect, 20 seats have changed hands.
Final prediction. CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%)
In % terms, encouraging that this matches Opinium, but instread of polling, simply follows from the reasoning above. Dodel does not take into account Scotland or Wales, nor idiosyncratic seats. But the net effect of those are likely to change this result in +-10 to CON, giving a lower end CON range of 330 to perhaps upper end of 355.
A hung parliament is possible. At the upper range of 355, its a CON majority of 30. Again, the model does favour LAB, but it would need some significant changes to the model for CON to get up 400 seats.
As for youth, even for 80% turnout, the difference amounts to swing of about 12 seats, not game changer. Can't see how the youth can change this election; just not enough of them.
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
The Spin line from Scottish Labour seems somewhat desperate.
Kezia never said it.
And Nicola shouldn't have leaked it.
Ummm
Is that really how they put it? Very odd. Like McDonnell's response to the 'kneecapping' quote "I don't remember saying anything like that ever. Also it is out of context"
The Speaker (Bercow will hold Buckingham) technically adds 1 to the Conservative tally, although whether he is really a Tory any longer is a moot point!
Betfair won't take account of the Speaker when working out whether Con or Lab get a majority, so both parties would need at least 326, not counting the Speaker. At least that's my understanding.
People need to get over this Nick Timothy thing, I'm starting to feel sorry for the poor guy - if an underling comes up with a crap idea, but you are the decision maker, it's still your fault for not realising it was so crap. That's why you're in charge and they're not.
You still don't get this PB Tory stuff do you. Never bosses fault.
Well, I'm still new to the ranks, not even yet a proper member till Thursday, and I fear I will let them down a lot after then.
Just got back from a packed CCHQ phonebank for my final phoning session of the campaign. Phoned in Walsall, Wolverhampton, Mansfield and Delyn and Wakefield. The response was generally positive and although I got a few Labour voters there was a clear preference for May over Corbyn, comments included 'I have been a Labour voter all my life but will be voting for May this time', 'I would not trust that man to look after my dog let alone the country' and 'I would vote for her 5 times if I could'. Mary Creagh does seem to have a bit of a personal vote in Wakefield though
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
Did you get anyone mentioning Dementia tax or WFA?
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
If Hammond is going and Rudd is to be Chancellor, Gove would suit the Home Office. Did well in Justice and in Education he was prepared to make tough decisions. Obviously the job I think he really ought to be doing is PM but Home Sec will do for now.
I was looking for some references to TSE's musical titans, Steps. Alas, I can't find 'fucking crap' anywhere in his piece.
TSE could have written about how last July Michael Gove found that Theresa May was suddenly like a stranger, but now how the botched manifesto had set off a chain reaction against the Conservatives and how the whole election campaign is better best forgotten. Instead of letting Michael Gove stomp off into journalism like George Osborne, she ought to make him deputy Prime Minister, only a heartbeat away from the top job. Anything else would be a tragedy
FPT The thing is.... the LibDem voters in North Norfolk are all getting on a bit. Many of them are dying off. That's how the Tories took the Council in 2011 without putting up candidates in all the seats and retained most of those in 2015. Yes, there's been leakage in focused Council by elections since but that's where the LDs do well with their mobile troops.
A normal constituency will have a 8pc voter churn per year - that is, most people will move every 12 years. Now, I know some people move within the constituency but in places like North Norfolk a disproportionate number of them move to another place the other side of St Peter's Pearly Gates.
The point is that the number of people who remember that nice young Mr Lamb is diminishing as age claims them. And that means incumbency isn't what it was for him.
Meanwhile - in Norwich South - remember that the number of electors registered to vote in University Ward [University of East Anglia] is 35% down on what theory would suggest. And even if the youngsters had registered to vote [which they haven't], they're all on holiday now anyway.
That's the funny thing with Universities nowadays and their new fangled semesters. They break-up for the Summer hols in Mid May and don't come back until Late Sept.
So Labour's hopes of domination in the 'Southern University Towns' suffer from a double whammy that the pollsters have missed:
1 Many of the youngsters who say they'll vote for Corbyn aren;t registered to vote 2 Even if they are, they're on holiday 3 Or lusting after Jessica on Love Island
Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot rcs1000 said: » show previous quotes They have to be odds on. But I personally like Lamb, and were I in the constituency, I would vote for him.
Holt division in North Norfolk constituency
2009 result
Con 1558 UKIP 1073 LDem 1058 Green 222 Lab 105
2013 result UKIP gain from Con
UKIP 1341 Con 991 LDem 851 Lab 399 Green 204
2017 result LDem gain from UKIP
LDem 1666 Con 1455 Lab 210 UKIP 202 Green 123
Conservatives do worse than in 2009 as many voters seem to move Con to UKIP to LDem
(1) UKIP meltdown. Assume UKIP drops to 3.8% nationally, with the votes going to both LAB and CON. For all UKIP2015 votes, into 2017, we decide that 30% remain UKIP, 20% switch to LAB and 50% switch to CON. Straight away this takes CON seats from 330 (UK2015) to 348; while LAB drop from 231 to 218. CON 348 (43%), LAB 218 (33%)
(2) LD to LAB swing. I think Farron hasn't the best campaign, and so some LD will split to LAB. Assume 20% of LD goes to LAB (high, but I want to overstate LAB in this model). Seats are now: CON 346 (43%), LAB 222 (35%)
(3) Youth surge. This extent of this has been debated, and is the main source of variance in the mainstream models. In UK2015 the 18-24 group had a turnout of 43%. What will it be in 2017, and can it win the election for LAB? There are almost 6 million voters in this range; for this model we need a fraction which will vote, and how they will vote. Lets give Survation / LAB benefit of the doubt, and assume 18-24 will have 70% turnout, splitting 70% to LAB and 15% to CON. That's about extra 1.1m votes to LAB, and 240,000 to CON. Applying UNS, we now get: CON 332 (42%), LAB 236 (37%). This is a big move, taking difference between parties from 124 to 96.
(4) LAB to CON. Not all labour voters are onboard the Corbyn train. This was evident at the start of the election, but has reduced over time, testament to the campaigning of Corbyn and appeal of his policies. So final adjustment is to add in a LAB to CON swing. At the start of the election, this might have been huge, eg, 10%, but given what's happened over course of last four weeks, we set it to 3%. This is low, and again favours LAB. So we are saying 3% of LAB are going direct to CON. Seats now: CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%). This is a big effect, 20 seats have changed hands.
Final prediction. CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%)
In % terms, encouraging that this matches Opinium, but instread of polling, simply follows from the reasoning above. Dodel does not take into account Scotland or Wales, nor idiosyncratic seats. But the net effect of those are likely to change this result in +-10 to CON, giving a lower end CON range of 330 to perhaps upper end of 355.
A hung parliament is possible. At the upper range of 355, its a CON majority of 30. Again, the model does favour LAB, but it would need some significant changes to the model for CON to get up 400 seats.
As for youth, even for 80% turnout, the difference amounts to swing of about 12 seats, not game changer. Can't see how the youth can change this election; just not enough of them.
Well, that's a bracing post, and fair dues for being extremely clear on your reasoning! I just say I'll go on my gut.
If the Tories win, it will be because of a pull from xenophobia (Brexit: the Lab-UKIP-Con effect) and a push from terrorism (Manchester and London). Nothing to do with "the economy", the NHS, or social policy.
Just got back from a packed CCHQ phonebank for my final phoning session of the campaign. Phoned in Walsall, Wolverhampton, Mansfield and Delyn and Wakefield. The response was generally positive and although I got a few Labour voters there was a clear preference for May over Corbyn, comments included 'I have been a Labour voter all my life but will be voting for May this time', 'I would not trust that man to look after my dog let alone the country' and 'I would vote for her 5 times if I could'. Mary Creagh does seem to have a bit of a personal vote in Wakefield though
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
Did you get anyone mentioning Dementia tax or WFA?
Nobody tonight at all, that was not the case last week, I think in the final days people are focusing on who they want as PM, May or Corbyn
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
FPT The thing is.... the LibDem voters in North Norfolk are all getting on a bit. Many of them are dying off. That's how the Tories took the Council in 2011 without putting up candidates in all the seats and retained most of those in 2015. Yes, there's been leakage in focused Council by elections since but that's where the LDs do well with their mobile troops.
A normal constituency will have a 8pc voter churn per year - that is, most people will move every 12 years. Now, I know some people move within the constituency but in places like North Norfolk a disproportionate number of them move to another place the other side of St Peter's Pearly Gates.
The point is that the number of people who remember that nice young Mr Lamb is diminishing as age claims them. And that means incumbency isn't what it was for him.
Meanwhile - in Norwich South - remember that the number of electors registered to vote in University Ward [University of East Anglia] is 35% down on what theory would suggest. And even if the youngsters had registered to vote [which they haven't], they're all on holiday now anyway.
That's the funny thing with Universities nowadays and their new fangled semesters. They break-up for the Summer hols in Mid May and don't come back until Late Sept.
So Labour's hopes of domination in the 'Southern University Towns' suffer from a double whammy that the pollsters have missed:
1 Many of the youngsters who say they'll vote for Corbyn aren;t registered to vote 2 Even if they are, they're on holiday 3 Or lusting after Jessica on Love Island
Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot rcs1000 said: » show previous quotes They have to be odds on. But I personally like Lamb, and were I in the constituency, I would vote for him.
That's exactly the point I've been making about the university seats re: students at home compared to at university in 2015, and hence the youth vote will be spread out in places where the Tories can easily absorb it. And of the 1.1m who registered at the last minute, lets say that breaks about 500-600k net in favour of Labour, its relatively insignificant when they started this campaign so far behind.
Still, I expect Labour to hold Exeter and Norwich S comfortably. LD's had candidate trouble in Bath and the university factor is a negative. I don't have anything changing hands in Cardiff - at the start of the campaign I though Labour would be in trouble in a number of the Cardiff seats.
A lot of comments have been made on OxWAb. I know it well having lived in Abingdon for 12 years. I expect a strong cut in the 9,500 majority but for Nicola Blackwood to hold. The 4k UKIP votes from last time are a crucial buffer, with the LD's starting too far behind. Still expect it to be one of the poorer Tory results in view of the relative Remain nature of the constituency.
Wasn't one of the reasons for dropping Gove that he couldn't be trusted with information re his friends at Murdoch papers? Wouldn't be wonderful for keeping her cards close to her chest.
Your right - The HM Queen story was alleged to have come from Gove. That knackers him for ever being a Minister IMO.
He could be party chairman though?
Yes, he will really appeal to Middle England with that nice accent (Not). I think Gove has burned his bridges. He would make a good attack dog against Sturgeon but that is as far as it goes. He has blown it in my eyes! Untrustworthy, duplicitous and too clever - he made the fatal mistake of stabbing two leading lights in the Tory party I the back with the whole country watching. I really don't know why he stood as a candidate as his brand is almost as soiled as some Tory supporters underwear on this website!
Just got back from a packed CCHQ phonebank for my final phoning session of the campaign. Phoned in Walsall, Wolverhampton, Mansfield and Delyn and Wakefield. The response was generally positive and although I got a few Labour voters there was a clear preference for May over Corbyn, comments included 'I have been a Labour voter all my life but will be voting for May this time', 'I would not trust that man to look after my dog let alone the country' and 'I would vote for her 5 times if I could'. Mary Creagh does seem to have a bit of a personal vote in Wakefield though
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
Did you get anyone mentioning Dementia tax or WFA?
Nobody tonight at all, that was not the case last week, I think in the final days people are focusing on who they want as PM, May or Corbyn
If Hammond is going and Rudd is to be Chancellor, Gove would suit the Home Office. Did well in Justice and in Education he was prepared to make tough decisions. Obviously the job I think he really ought to be doing is PM but Home Sec will do for now.
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
The Spin line from Scottish Labour seems somewhat desperate.
Kezia never said it.
And Nicola shouldn't have leaked it.
Ummm
Is that really how they put it? Very odd. Like McDonnell's response to the 'kneecapping' quote "I don't remember saying anything like that ever. Also it is out of context"
If the undecideds mainly go to May it could well be a Tory landslide although more 100+ than 150+, of course they could all go to Corbyn and even produce a hung parliament but that was not where I felt the momentum going tonight
If the Tories win, it will be because of a pull from xenophobia (Brexit: the Lab-UKIP-Con effect) and a push from terrorism (Manchester and London). Nothing to do with "the economy", the NHS, or social policy.
Which seat do folks think will be the first Tory gain of the night? A North East seat perhaps? Darlington is fairly compact.
On my list going by the Press Association times it would be Darlington followed by Wrexham. I think by around 2.30am we'll have a good indication of the overall majority expected:
FTPT: The fact that the YouGov model has Stoke-on-Trent south as a tossup is baffling to me. It clearly has issues.
I was born in the seat and find it very hard to imagine it going Tory. I know they voted leave but with only one of the wards, Trentham, really has any Tory presence.
Comments
Gove is an odious tit.
#OsBalls
Perhaps Gove as Minister without Portfolio?
The fact that the YouGov model has Stoke-on-Trent south as a tossup is baffling to me. It clearly has issues.
Backed against the Beast of Bolsover at 6-1.
'tainted Gove'
'Gove will tear us apart'
I notice the daily Telegraph are saying that Corbyn has been monitored by the security services for actions related to undermining democracy. Abbott has as well! I would never have thought that!
*subject to polls of course, which can lead to swingback to panic.
The thing is.... the LibDem voters in North Norfolk are all getting on a bit. Many of them are dying off. That's how the Tories took the Council in 2011 without putting up candidates in all the seats and retained most of those in 2015. Yes, there's been leakage in focused Council by elections since but that's where the LDs do well with their mobile troops.
A normal constituency will have a 8pc voter churn per year - that is, most people will move every 12 years. Now, I know some people move within the constituency but in places like North Norfolk a disproportionate number of them move to another place the other side of St Peter's Pearly Gates.
The point is that the number of people who remember that nice young Mr Lamb is diminishing as age claims them. And that means incumbency isn't what it was for him.
Meanwhile - in Norwich South - remember that the number of electors registered to vote in University Ward [University of East Anglia] is 35% down on what theory would suggest. And even if the youngsters had registered to vote [which they haven't], they're all on holiday now anyway.
That's the funny thing with Universities nowadays and their new fangled semesters. They break-up for the Summer hols in Mid May and don't come back until Late Sept.
So Labour's hopes of domination in the 'Southern University Towns' suffer from a double whammy that the pollsters have missed:
1 Many of the youngsters who say they'll vote for Corbyn aren;t registered to vote
2 Even if they are, they're on holiday
3 Or lusting after Jessica on Love Island
Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot
rcs1000 said:
» show previous quotes
They have to be odds on. But I personally like Lamb, and were I in the constituency, I would vote for him.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/03/theresa-may-defends-tory-candidate-over-shocking-rape-and-homosexuality-comments-6681440/
And it sounds like Jeremy has fallen big time for it.
if this is the news tomorrow Theresa will win
Kezia never said it.
And Nicola shouldn't have leaked it.
Ummm
Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt and Damian Green turned up and we finished with a talk by Jim Messina who seemed confident but said 'there were more undecided voters than any campaign he had been involved in at this stage'
Starting point is the 2015 election. Assume every vote cast then will be the same the time, and then apply various factors to change the votes. Factors are applied UNS (uniform national swing).
Factors:
(1) UKIP meltdown. Assume UKIP drops to 3.8% nationally, with the votes going to both LAB and CON. For all UKIP2015 votes, into 2017, we decide that 30% remain UKIP, 20% switch to LAB and 50% switch to CON. Straight away this takes CON seats from 330 (UK2015) to 348; while LAB drop from 231 to 218. CON 348 (43%), LAB 218 (33%)
(2) LD to LAB swing. I think Farron hasn't the best campaign, and so some LD will split to LAB. Assume 20% of LD goes to LAB (high, but I want to overstate LAB in this model). Seats are now: CON 346 (43%), LAB 222 (35%)
(3) Youth surge. This extent of this has been debated, and is the main source of variance in the mainstream models. In UK2015 the 18-24 group had a turnout of 43%. What will it be in 2017, and can it win the election for LAB? There are almost 6 million voters in this range; for this model we need a fraction which will vote, and how they will vote. Lets give Survation / LAB benefit of the doubt, and assume 18-24 will have 70% turnout, splitting 70% to LAB and 15% to CON. That's about extra 1.1m votes to LAB, and 240,000 to CON. Applying UNS, we now get: CON 332 (42%), LAB 236 (37%). This is a big move, taking difference between parties from 124 to 96.
(4) LAB to CON. Not all labour voters are onboard the Corbyn train. This was evident at the start of the election, but has reduced over time, testament to the campaigning of Corbyn and appeal of his policies. So final adjustment is to add in a LAB to CON swing. At the start of the election, this might have been huge, eg, 10%, but given what's happened over course of last four weeks, we set it to 3%. This is low, and again favours LAB. So we are saying 3% of LAB are going direct to CON. Seats now: CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%). This is a big effect, 20 seats have changed hands.
Final prediction. CON 342 (43%), LAB 226 (36%)
In % terms, encouraging that this matches Opinium, but instread of polling, simply follows from the reasoning above. Dodel does not take into account Scotland or Wales, nor idiosyncratic seats. But the net effect of those are likely to change this result in +-10 to CON, giving a lower end CON range of 330 to perhaps upper end of 355.
A hung parliament is possible. At the upper range of 355, its a CON majority of 30. Again, the model does favour LAB, but it would need some significant changes to the model for CON to get up 400 seats.
As for youth, even for 80% turnout, the difference amounts to swing of about 12 seats, not game changer. Can't see how the youth can change this election; just not enough of them.
Sadly, however, Gove has history with May, and she doesn't forgive history.
Gooooove
Gove on your side
2009 result
Con 1558
UKIP 1073
LDem 1058
Green 222
Lab 105
2013 result UKIP gain from Con
UKIP 1341
Con 991
LDem 851
Lab 399
Green 204
2017 result LDem gain from UKIP
LDem 1666
Con 1455
Lab 210
UKIP 202
Green 123
Conservatives do worse than in 2009 as many voters seem to move Con to UKIP to LDem
Love will tear us apart
All you need is love
*wondering where to emigrate to*
Still, I expect Labour to hold Exeter and Norwich S comfortably. LD's had candidate trouble in Bath and the university factor is a negative. I don't have anything changing hands in Cardiff - at the start of the campaign I though Labour would be in trouble in a number of the Cardiff seats.
A lot of comments have been made on OxWAb. I know it well having lived in Abingdon for 12 years. I expect a strong cut in the 9,500 majority but for Nicola Blackwood to hold. The 4k UKIP votes from last time are a crucial buffer, with the LD's starting too far behind. Still expect it to be one of the poorer Tory results in view of the relative Remain nature of the constituency.
Sun front page toxic for Jezz. Toxic.
'May threatens to dismantle human rights laws in wake of terror attacks'
That should get a debate going tomorrow
Whilst some Tories on PB might have a natural affinity for such a man, if they care for their party they will leave his career where it is. Dead.
None of that talk until at least 9pm on Thursday please. 46 hours to go.
@kevwodonnell: The First Minister of Scotland has just set the precedent that you cannot speak with her confidentially. Think about that for a second.
http://election.pressassociation.com/Declaration_times/general_2017_by_time.php
Gove
Gove on your side
Cos you got Gove
Gove
Gove on your side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66cGvR5yvU
https://twitter.com/twikerstan/status/871669040808431616
Just a little divine intervention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2n-blwYJ4s