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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,687
    So agree

    https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/869288062483914752
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,321
    Good answer on social care.
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 914
    May says will not put at figure on a cap.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,250
    Scott_P said:

    OT, the way she pronounces Pleece I find really irritating

    Like the way she pronounces collapse as claps.
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Thing is this is being shown on two very small watched channels- will it resonate with the majority of viewers
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,187
    She got a good round of applause after her answer on Dementia Tax....
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    Dementia Tax no answer

    "Its tough shit mate um err were having your umm err house when your dead." umm err.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    Dementia tax could have been a lot worse. Tezza holding her own so far.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    MikeL said:

    Good answer on social care.

    Yeah. That will probably be her trickiest question, and she didn't bomb on it. Hurrah!
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    Scott_P said:

    IanB2 said:

    Little wobble in the voice there

    There appears to be a technical issue with her audio
    Is she sniffing?
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    Corby: Q after Q on foreign affairs... May: Pensioners, Pensioners....
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,986
    edited May 2017
    bobajobPB said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    A patriotic Labour leader running on that same manifesto could easily win.

    But not Corbyn.

    GE2022 should be Labour's to lose, provided they elect someone like Ed Balls as leader.

    Completely agree.

    If patriotism means arse licking the monarchy - Britain's richest welfare recipients - then chalk me off the patriot list. If it means cheering the England cricket, rugby and football teams sign me up. Means different things to different people.

    It means not giving the impression of being embarrassed in the presence of the Union Jack.

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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,958
    Good answer on Scotland too.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,607
    OUT said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Dougie said:

    In the unlikely event Corbyn were to be PM in two weeks time, it is quite likely he would oversee the succession of Charles to the throne. We have never have had a republican PM at the succession of a monarch before - indeed, possibly Lloyd George aside, I'm not sure we've ever had a republican PM at all.

    Let's not forget a Tory PM less than a century ago forced a King to abdicate
    Aided by the clergy. Those middle class bastards that they are.
    But we remained a Monarchy. Eddie (sorry David!) was succeeded by Bertie.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    Theresa May has Milliband's common touch.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    WFA oh dear no reassurance.

    Assume you will lose it
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 914
    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,607
    RobD said:

    They have to have war-gamed this question, SURELY?

    "Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?"
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,042
    Corbyn like watching LFC. Anything could happen and often does. Still keeps grinding on. May like MUFC. Not really expecting anything to happen. Politics for the connoisseur.
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,978
    May not at bad as I thought she'd be
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,958
    MarqueeMark said:

    She got a good round of applause after her answer on Dementia Tax....

    On everyone's telly but that which BJO is watching....
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    She has bounced back from that tricky start. Handled the dementia tax social care issue as best as she probably could.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    Paxman will have some elephant traps set for May, guaranteed.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,026
    A judge lead enquiry into every problem :)
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    Jason said:

    Dementia tax could have been a lot worse. Tezza holding her own so far.

    Not really those seeking reassurance got none.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    Pulpstar said:

    A judge lead enquiry into every problem :)

    LOL, yes. The green paper reply is a cop-out.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    Too many words,not enough substance.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,117
    I think May is dealing with these hard questions quite well. The 'sensible' and 'calm' Tory.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,220
    That stat about the differences in funding per pupil is incredible, how has that been allowed to develop over the years?
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,013
    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Resisting aggression is not wrong.
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    WFA - blaming Tory retention in Scotland on Holyrood !
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    Gallowgate said:

    I think May is dealing with these hard questions quite well. The 'sensible' and 'calm' Tory.

    I'm still wobbling like a jelly over here. :p
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    CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    So much is "as you know" or "obviously" for Theresa May.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,958
    bigjohnowls said:

    WFA oh dear no reassurance.

    Assume you will lose it

    Whereas Labour is the party for millionaire welfare recipients? Change the record John...
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    calum said:

    WFA - blaming Tory retention in Scotland on Holyrood !

    It'll be a devolved matter, so that's fair enough.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,959
    This is just a stream of aphorisms and generalisations in response to specific questions. Frustrating to listen to, just answer the actual questions!
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    Corbyn 6/10 first bit, 2/10 second bit. Played straight into everyone's fears that he has supported Britain's enemies. That Falklands quote will come back to haunt him.
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    MattyNethMattyNeth Posts: 60
    May doing ok until the barracking started on school funding!
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    When the audience get home and the kids ask, "what did they say?", they're going to struggle.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,450
    I was concerned about her performance tonight but she is coming over well and answered the dementia tax well.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    She's had some work done on her face. I've heard Botox mentioned. Makes sense.

    She looks a bit younger, a bit less gaunt and gawky.

    Collagen filler for volume perhaps, not botox. There is facial movement.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,321
    Con Majority - 1.19 - longest of campaign I think

    No Overall Majority - 7.6 - shortest of campaign I think
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,187
    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,687
    https://twitter.com/mjrobbins/status/869289570248138753
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,986
    May fine, not inspiring.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    Yes...the bus question!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    IanB2 said:

    Yes...the bus question!

    She has a good answer on that. :p
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,321
    This question is why Boris could not represent Con in the BBC debate.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    SouthamObserver said:

    May fine, not inspiring.

    Surely that's a superb victory for her, given expectations? :p
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,026
    Bit wobbly on education there, a points defeat round - no knockout though.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    What's important. Robot robot. What's important. robot robot.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @adamboultonSKY: Q4 Why did my local Conservatives lie about Brexit £350m a week for NHS TM Lot of thing said. In future we won't be sending vast sums
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    RestharrowRestharrow Posts: 233
    SeanT said:

    She's had some work done on her face. I've heard Botox mentioned. Makes sense.

    She looks a bit younger, a bit less gaunt and gawky.

    "I've heard Botox mentioned." Yes, the very word brings a cherubic smile to my face, too. "Makes your face as smooth as your bottom." What an irresistible selling line.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    People laughing at Mays laughable answer on funds per pupil
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    Too many words,not enough substance.

    She's learned that substance - dementia tax! - gets her into trouble.

    She's sounding a bit brighter than normal. Waffly and boring- but more cheerful.
    Is she planning to bore the EU to a deal?
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    freetochoosefreetochoose Posts: 1,107
    May is very dull
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,026
    Big win on the EU question !
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    Exterminate
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,926
    Scott_P said:

    @adamboultonSKY: Q4 Why did my local Conservatives lie about Brexit £350m a week for NHS TM Lot of thing said. In future we won't be sending vast sums

    Good answer to a tough question.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    edited May 2017
    freetochoose said:

    May is very dull

    We'd be lost without such cutting insight ;)
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,117
    Why is May not countering the Labour promises? Saying that they 'cant offer unlimited funding'?
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    isamisam Posts: 41,042
    SeanT said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    Too many words,not enough substance.

    She's learned that substance - dementia tax! - gets her into trouble.

    She's sounding a bit brighter than normal. Waffly and boring- but more cheerful.
    Is she planning to bore the EU to a deal?
    It's not a bad tactic
    Boring, steady Theresa or radical Jez who likes to spice things up by supporting terrorists and wanting to get rid of the Queen?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    Gallowgate said:

    Why is May not countering the Labour promises? Saying that they 'cant offer unlimited funding'?

    Because then people would complain that it's all negative.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,986
    RobD said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    May fine, not inspiring.

    Surely that's a superb victory for her, given expectations? :p

    I agree. She's doing fine.

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    CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    Now she's on two wrongs make a right.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    If you don't educate or care for your people, what is even the point?
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    SouthamObserver said:

    May fine, not inspiring.

    Yes, a bit boring but boring is good. No gaffes so far.
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    RobD said:

    calum said:

    WFA - blaming Tory retention in Scotland on Holyrood !

    It'll be a devolved matter, so that's fair enough.
    it's the SCON manifesto which promises to maintain the WFA for all in Scotland !!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    SeanT said:

    "We all rely on the Health Service"

    Thanks for that Theresa.

    *stabs fork in eye to stay awake*

    Steady as she goes.....
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    RobD said:

    calum said:

    WFA - blaming Tory retention in Scotland on Holyrood !

    It'll be a devolved matter, so that's fair enough.
    Not until 2019. Until then any SCON MP's will be voting to freeze "wor granny" to death.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    OUT said:

    RobD said:

    calum said:

    WFA - blaming Tory retention in Scotland on Holyrood !

    It'll be a devolved matter, so that's fair enough.
    Not until 2019. Until then any SCON MP's will be voting to freeze "wor granny" to death.
    Suspect they'll avoid that issue by having it start in 2019.
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    TMA1TMA1 Posts: 225
    foxinsoxuk said:

    SeanT said:

    She's had some work done on her face. I've heard Botox mentioned. Makes sense.

    She looks a bit younger, a bit less gaunt and gawky.

    Collagen filler for volume perhaps, not botox. There is facial movement.
    I have heard some desperate and weird stuff but this is getting ridiculous.
    Ever heard of make up? Does nobody remember tricky dickie refusing make up in 1959
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    JamesMJamesM Posts: 221
    Ultimately you can tell from the 'debate' so far that the audience know only May will be PM after June 8th. She gets the tough finance questions as people know she will be making the tough decisions.
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    booksellerbookseller Posts: 422
    Sean_F said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Resisting aggression is not wrong.
    "The pursuit of peace and progress cannot end in a few years in either victory or defeat. The pursuit of peace and progress, with its trials and its errors, its successes and its setbacks, can never be relaxed and never abandoned." - Dag Hammarskjold
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,220
    foxinsoxuk said:

    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    If you don't educate or care for your people, what is even the point?
    Lol, are the Tories going to close all state schools? Will you bother voting Lib Dem on 8 June?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    Lowest budget for Healfff re GDP.

    Strong economy strong economy etc etc

    Reality cuts efficiency savings

    Stop talking Bollocks PM

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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Scott_P said:

    @adamboultonSKY: Q4 Why did my local Conservatives lie about Brexit £350m a week for NHS TM Lot of thing said. In future we won't be sending vast sums

    The unquestioned assumption is that it was her "local Conservatives" in some form and not one of the Leave campaigns.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    Waffle
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    It is noticeable; she does not answer the question.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,013
    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    For the radical left, the point is that one should not defend one's citizens.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,220
    JamesM said:

    Ultimately you can tell from the 'debate' so far that the audience know only May will be PM after June 8th. She gets the tough finance questions as people know she will be making the tough decisions.

    Exactly.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,026
    This is alot better than that bloody awful advert the Tories posted earlier !
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    RestharrowRestharrow Posts: 233
    TMA1 said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    SeanT said:

    She's had some work done on her face. I've heard Botox mentioned. Makes sense.

    She looks a bit younger, a bit less gaunt and gawky.

    Collagen filler for volume perhaps, not botox. There is facial movement.
    I have heard some desperate and weird stuff but this is getting ridiculous.
    Ever heard of make up? Does nobody remember tricky dickie refusing make up in 1959
    I remember 1959 as if it were yesterday. And vice versa.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    tlg86 said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    If you don't educate or care for your people, what is even the point?
    Lol, are the Tories going to close all state schools? Will you bother voting Lib Dem on 8 June?
    Yep, I will be voting LD.

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    OliverOliver Posts: 33
    May was completely thrown then by the question about being a bloody difficult woman. She is so awkward she makes Ed Miliband look cool.
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    macisbackmacisback Posts: 382
    More waffle on Education, crap question and answer. The real stat that matters and should shame both the politicians and educational establishment, 35% of 16 year-olds don't get 5 GCSE's, 35% fail rate in courses that are hardly demanding. The fact is most state school's are neither good nor outstanding and anybody with coin will send their children to private school it is a no-brainer. A level results totally prove that and of course private school-kids hoover most of the most prestigious university slots.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @dizzy_thinks: Cutaways to a guy saying "that's bollocks" not ideal in this Sky debate/question.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,220
    foxinsoxuk said:

    tlg86 said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    If you don't educate or care for your people, what is even the point?
    Lol, are the Tories going to close all state schools? Will you bother voting Lib Dem on 8 June?
    Yep, I will be voting LD.

    Strange, because you seem quite the Corbyn fan now.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574
    Brexit is going to be such a f**k up
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    Hillary Clinton, apart from being laughed at once, dull robotic but safe.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,911
    SeanT said:

    She's really quite inarticulate.

    What a choice.

    She is Shite

    You know your Girlfriend knows best!!
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,986
    Extraordinarily inarticulate.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,187
    bigjohnowls said:

    People Small group of Labour activists laughing at Mays laughable answer on funds per pupil

    Fixed.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,806
    That was good. Kids vs. Grown Ups.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    IanB2 said:

    Brexit is going to be such a f**k up

    As we've heard, for months on end.
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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    Severnnnnn.
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    CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    edited May 2017
    No proper answer from May to the character question.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,013
    foxinsoxuk said:

    RobD said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Icarus said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jason said:

    Icarus said:

    Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!

    You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
    Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
    Killing young people of Argentina or Britain must be wrong.
    Not if that is what it takes to keep people of all ages safe.
    If you don't defend your citizens, what is even the point?
    If you don't educate or care for your people, what is even the point?
    But, we do educate and care for our people. That doesn't preclude defending them.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,607
    edited May 2017
    I really thought this would be a US style head-to-head debate!

    BITTERLY disappointed in that front :lol:
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