This election is all about making sure Labour voters will hold their noses and vote Labour.
I don't think JC has put them off with this performance.
If Labour is sensible post 8th June this campaign could be a positive turning point for the party. Someone without Corbyn's back story, unencumbered by some of the more ridiculous policies in the manifesto (renationalisation, middle class freebies) could make hay. Very, very big If, though.
I can see labour going one of a few ways after this election (regardless of the result).
Scenario 1 - The hard left keeps hold of the Labour Party and they take a massive lurch to the left. The distance how far left is dependent on the number of moderate labour MPs remain (whether by split or by defeat). I can't see a time when this labour party would ever be elected
Scenario 2 - The moderate part of the Labour Party regains control by the end of the year and they elect a credible leader. Dampening down the hard left will take a number of years and it'll be sometime in the mid 2020's before they can be elected into government
For someone with Paxman's experience he is asking daft questions.
He is awful, isn't he. Looking for a knock-out with every question and way too shouty.
Paxman is interrupting so much! At this point in his career, his name makes the money for him. He's mastered voice tonality etc., has the brand recognition, and can work on autopilot. I don't think he's even listening to Corbyn much. Corbyn is doing fairly well. But I wish he'd attack the Tories a bit more.
Corbyn describes the Falklands campaign as a 'Tory plot'. Wow.
The left can't really complain that the Tories seem to own the idea of competence in the public's mind. Even when they bungle something as in 1982 the left seem to regard them as evil geniuses rather than incompetents.
What will scare the Tory middle class out to vote in numbers IMO is not the security stuff, but the Economic stuff. The Tories have to get it out there, whilst avoiding the obvious banana skins of the apparently popular stuff like Rail nationalisation.
You're confusing the Anglo-Irish Agreement (1985) with the Good Friday Agreement (1988). rkrkrk has already posted a link proving he voted for the GFA.
Indeed. It's linked on the Corbyn-defence website which is confusing.
Corbyn describes the Falklands campaign as a 'Tory plot'. Wow.
The left can't really complain that the Tories seem to own the idea of competence in the public's mind. Even when they bungle something as in 1982 the left seem to regard them as evil geniuses rather than incompetents.
Yeah, if we could engineer the Falklands War, why can't we engineer a manifesto launch?
This terrorism stuff on Corbyn is getting boring. I cannot understand how the economics of his manifesto are going unchallenged. The costs of nationalisation as industries become as inefficient as every other government run operation, how many immigrants to build half a million council houses ect. I've never known such a poorly run national campaign as this.
Someone must have made a calculation that a lot of voters under are stupid enough to believe this sh*t, and anyone under about 45 by and large missed out on the experience of the 1970's, others will have forgotten it, or view it all with a tinge of nostalgia. The terrorism threat card is possibly more relevant to people's real lives.
I am experiencing great satisfaction in watching the tories fall apart (even though they will still win, handsomely), but this is tempered with the reality that I cannot in conscience vote for an labour party who have an intellectually dishonest manifesto and who are wholly incapable of being in government.
In the unlikely event Corbyn were to be PM in two weeks time, it is quite likely he would oversee the succession of Charles to the throne. We have never have had a republican PM at the succession of a monarch before - indeed, possibly Lloyd George aside, I'm not sure we've ever had a republican PM at all.
This election is all about making sure Labour voters will hold their noses and vote Labour.
I don't think JC has put them off with this performance.
If Labour is sensible post 8th June this campaign could be a positive turning point for the party. Someone without Corbyn's back story, unencumbered by some of the more ridiculous policies in the manifesto (renationalisation, middle class freebies) could make hay. Very, very big If, though.
I can see labour going one of a few ways after this election (regardless of the result).
Scenario 1 - The hard left keeps hold of the Labour Party and they take a massive lurch to the left. The distance how far left is dependent on the number of moderate labour MPs remain (whether by split or by defeat). I can't see a time when this labour party would ever be elected
Scenario 2 - The moderate part of the Labour Party regains control by the end of the year and they elect a credible leader. Dampening down the hard left will take a number of years and it'll be sometime in the mid 2020's before they can be elected into government
Lol @ SO's "if", "could", bigger "if"...
The 'moderates' will experience their third crushing defeat and the left will see the success of the first phase of their revolution. How is that going to end happily?
In the unlikely event Corbyn were to be PM in two weeks time, it is quite likely he would oversee the succession of Charles to the throne. We have never have had a republican PM at the succession of a monarch before - indeed, possibly Lloyd George aside, I'm not sure we've ever had a republican PM at all.
Let's not forget a Tory PM less than a century ago forced a King to abdicate
Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!
In the unlikely event Corbyn were to be PM in two weeks time, it is quite likely he would oversee the succession of Charles to the throne. We have never have had a republican PM at the succession of a monarch before - indeed, possibly Lloyd George aside, I'm not sure we've ever had a republican PM at all.
Let's not forget a Tory PM less than a century ago forced a King to abdicate
Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!
You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
In the unlikely event Corbyn were to be PM in two weeks time, it is quite likely he would oversee the succession of Charles to the throne. We have never have had a republican PM at the succession of a monarch before - indeed, possibly Lloyd George aside, I'm not sure we've ever had a republican PM at all.
Let's not forget a Tory PM less than a century ago forced a King to abdicate
Aided by the clergy. Those middle class bastards that they are.
I'm going against the narrative here. Corbyn is not doing a Trump. He is actually trying to become a normal politician, with all the dissembling that implies
Corbyn has so much baggage there is always something to get him on. That Falklands stuff may resonate much more than the IRA and Israel.
Yes I agree. He should have apologised for saying that. IMO should have gone with the line of... Sometimes in partisan politics we take it too far. I was very angry with Margaret Thatcher for the damage she was doing to our economy and our community and I let that get the better of me - I was wrong to call it a Tory plot. We were attacked and she was right to defend us.
A patriotic Labour leader running on that same manifesto could easily win.
But not Corbyn.
GE2022 should be Labour's to lose, provided they elect someone like Ed Balls as leader.
Completely agree.
If patriotism means arse licking the monarchy - Britain's richest welfare recipients - then chalk me off the patriot list. If it means cheering the England cricket, rugby and football teams sign me up. Means different things to different people.
Sorry thought he was excellent on the Falklands. If the Liberals were not my team (since 1964) and there was a chance for Labour in South Leicestershire I would vote Labour. May has started awfully!!
You what? Corbyn was 'excellent' on the Falklands? You're deluded!
Bear in mind that there are always 10% or so, who want Britain to be beaten by our enemies.
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He's supposed to try and rile up the interviewee, not act riled up himself.
Last 5 mins very bad for Corbyn with floaters.
Scenario 1 - The hard left keeps hold of the Labour Party and they take a massive lurch to the left. The distance how far left is dependent on the number of moderate labour MPs remain (whether by split or by defeat). I can't see a time when this labour party would ever be elected
Scenario 2 - The moderate part of the Labour Party regains control by the end of the year and they elect a credible leader. Dampening down the hard left will take a number of years and it'll be sometime in the mid 2020's before they can be elected into government
Why haven't CCHQ brought this up before?
Trident, MI5, Monarchy, Falklands, drone strikes.
You could see the audience wincing.
https://twitter.com/R_A_1N_B0W_DAHS/status/869285520001695745
I am experiencing great satisfaction in watching the tories fall apart (even though they will still win, handsomely), but this is tempered with the reality that I cannot in conscience vote for an labour party who have an intellectually dishonest manifesto and who are wholly incapable of being in government.
Still, overall he did okay.
Let's see how May does. Hopefully Paxo will allow her to answer some questions and not act so angry towards her.
He came unstuck at the end. What will be interesting is what the media focus on - the more sure-footed start or the rather shifty ending with Paxo.
Theresa May has to show she can up her game, though.
But not Corbyn.
GE2022 should be Labour's to lose, provided they elect someone like Ed Balls as leader.
Second Half 5/10
The 'moderates' will experience their third crushing defeat and the left will see the success of the first phase of their revolution. How is that going to end happily?
They should have asked Neil to come back and do second interviews.
The right come up either through business (which is incestuous in itself) or through being SpAd's.
Now Dementia Tax...
Tezza having a harder time.
OT, the way she pronounces Pleece I find really irritating
He should have apologised for saying that.
IMO should have gone with the line of... Sometimes in partisan politics we take it too far. I was very angry with Margaret Thatcher for the damage she was doing to our economy and our community and I let that get the better of me - I was wrong to call it a Tory plot. We were attacked and she was right to defend us.