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  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Jobabob said:

    Mortimer said:
    No chance. FL is surely going DEM.
    Yep - that is why it is blue.....
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    I am getting "key race alert" fatigue....

    Me too – many of them are not in any shape or form 'key' races. It's laughable.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    The first counties to close (and vote) are all in the panhandle.
  • Why do the polls close so early in the US?

    They open early, many people get the day off, voters would have to be back home for market day on wednesday.
  • Why do the polls close so early in the US?

    So that there are long queues to photograph.
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Ohio is level, Trump might sneak a win but this is over.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Ready for the Ohio exit poll figures?

    Trump 47.11%
    Clinton 46.95%

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/ohio
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    North Carolina exit polls

    Hillary 48.5
    Trump 46.5

    Ohio

    Trump 47
    Hillary 47

    Again young voters 18-29 outnumber those over 65's.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,291
    edited November 2016

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    Just as the Uk postal, surely the early votes are a skewed sample?
  • Chameleon said:

    Trump leapfrogged Clinton, ahead by 30,000 with 43% in.

    Republican friendly areas coming in I think..
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    edited November 2016
    Trump 1.1% lead after 45%.....
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Trump up by 45,000 with 45% in.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333
    Is BF really coming in for Trump because WV got called for Trump? Was just out to 6, came into 5.5 just a minute ago. How stupid are these guys?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    edited November 2016
    Still zero from Broward with almost 50% FL in.

    Dade and Palm Beach have significant votes in but unclear what %.
  • Rubio would have thrashed Clinton in Florida.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333
    However, it has allowed me to go green on Hillary though!
  • rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Why do the polls close so early in the US?

    So they can get the results at a decent hour.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    MaxPB said:

    Is BF really coming in for Trump because WV got called for Trump? Was just out to 6, came into 5.5 just a minute ago. How stupid are these guys?

    Using past evidence? Very,
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Broward should win Florida for Hillary - nothing in yet.
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082

    Rubio would have thrashed Clinton in Florida.

    He would have tanked in the rust belt though
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923
    Ohio - looks like a R pickup; NC - a Dem win

  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    MaxPB said:

    Is BF really coming in for Trump because WV got called for Trump? Was just out to 6, came into 5.5 just a minute ago. How stupid are these guys?

    You sometimes get temporary moves as people cash in profits they have on the other side.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    The first counties to close (and vote) are all in the panhandle.
    I don't think that is right. I remember one election where Karl Rove got annoyed at the networks for calling Florida before the panhandle had finished voting.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    @Mortimer – apologies. Somehow I looked at a different map – or something*

    *Maybe I just didn't look properly
  • Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 3m3 minutes ago
    Clinton massively over-performing in Orange County, FL. We had +17, currently at +29. http://benchmark.shareblue.com/florida/
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Adam Smith
    Adam Smith – Verified account ‏@adamsmithtimes

    HRC up 10 pts in Hillsborough Co, the most reliable presidential picker in FL
  • Very surprised Clinton still @ 1.22
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    It's over, Trump needed a big swing in the mid west, he's not got it in Ohio.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    North Carolina exit poll:

    Clinton 48.56%
    Trump 46.52%
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    American election programmes have a very different feel to British ones. Much better analysis and less time wasting listening to clueless vox pops and partisan commentators trying to spin the results.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    The first counties to close (and vote) are all in the panhandle.
    Are you sure ???

    Isn't the panhandle in a different timezone and wasn't that the big issue with the early call in 2000 ?
  • Chris said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    HYUFD said:
    Seriously, what is the point of pasting these figures based on 1% of the votes? It's essentially random.
    1% of the population of 318 million ish is a viable statistical sample.
    It's not the size that's important.
    Over here in blighty the pollsters work off approx 1100. For a population of .... Well god who knows lets say 70 millions. Far less than 1%.
    Size is everything.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,715
    Florida 47% in
    Trump 49.7%
    Clinton 47.4%

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/florida
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    FOP ....

    :smiley:
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    edited November 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
    It isn't Robert. Just wait.

    p.s. I don't personally care who wins.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,291

    American election programmes have a very different feel to British ones. Much better analysis and less time wasting listening to clueless vox pops and partisan commentators trying to spin the results.

    They don't have that empty hour and a half to fill, and then another hour when the only result is from sunderland
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    The first counties to close (and vote) are all in the panhandle.
    Are you sure ???

    Isn't the panhandle in a different timezone and wasn't that the big issue with the early call in 2000 ?
    That's what CNBC said, but you're right, it does sound v. odd.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333

    Very surprised Clinton still @ 1.22

    Yes, especially after that NC exit poll.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    Why do the polls close so early in the US?

    Varies by state. Here in Noo Yawk it's 6am - 9pm, so same duration as in the UK just offset by an hour. In general the states that allow early voting tend to close earlier. NYS doesn't have early voting.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    Nah. Nearly bed time.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Swings so far indicated by exit polls compared to 2012 result:

    To Clinton:

    Georgia: 3.2%
    North Carolina: 2.0%
    South Carolina: 1.5%
    Virginia: 1.9%

    To Trump:

    Indiana: 2.1%
    Kentucky: 1.9%
    Ohio: 1.6%
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
    I've got no dog in this fight, but it is too early to call.
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525

    Surprised SC not called yet, must be closer than expected

    There is basically no results in yet to call the result with (less than 4000 on the CNN site)

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/south-carolina

  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    edited November 2016

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    clinton49.4%1,658,543
    trump47.8%1,602,508
    johnson2.0%66,252
    stein0.6%19,199
    full details
    voting, est. 36% i

    Trump is doing worse in Orlando and West Palm beach, doing as well as Romney in Miami-Dade, doing better than Romney in the Tampa-Naples area.

    All that is of course early vote, not the votes cast today.

    Trump has a chance in Florida.
    Doesn't look like any news from the panhandle yet. I'm not sure if the polls have closed there.
    The first counties to close (and vote) are all in the panhandle.
    Are you sure ???

    Isn't the panhandle in a different timezone and wasn't that the big issue with the early call in 2000 ?
    Correct - Panhandle closes 1am.

    Which is why no projection yet - not even TCTC - they say nothing (in terms of projection) until 1am.

    At 1am they will say TCTC.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Broward should win Florida for Hillary - nothing in yet.

    Depends on the margin.
    Will it outweigh Trump's gains elsewhere.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    Clinton seems to be matching or bettering Obama's results from Florida in 2012. If that pattern continues Florida is hers.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Now closed out my trump position for a very, very, very small profit.
  • TonyTony Posts: 159
    Florida results coming in are the early votes, which we know Hilary was doing well on .
    Trump's expected to win the vote on the day?
    Am I missing something?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.

    I don't feel for someone who would want that vile cretin to be POTUS......it's like someone routing for ISIS...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,291
    In Britain the rural areas are always last; in the US they seem to have overcome this, I guess because they are smaller?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    JackW said:

    FOP ....

    :smiley:


    Sorry what is FOP?
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449

    Very surprised Clinton still @ 1.22

    Just maxed out my (meagre) bet fair limit on Clinton. Feels like free money right now.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923
    Tony said:

    Florida results coming in are the early votes, which we know Hilary was doing well on .
    Trump's expected to win the vote on the day?
    Am I missing something?

    No, it's not early votes, but early counties that are reporting.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    NC looks like it is flipping DEM.

    I think Trump probably squeaks home in OH.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,768
    Florida

    trump49.4%2,421,577
    clinton47.7%2,339,134
    johnson2.1%101,910
    stein0.6%29,508
    full details
    voting, est. 52% i
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Trump 80,000 up in Fl, 52% in. Nothing in SE Florida back yet.
  • rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
    It isn't Robert. Just wait.

    p.s. I don't personally care who wins.
    Yeah? I thought a few days ago you said you hoped Clinton would win but Trump had a good chance of doing it.
    Must have been someone else.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
    It isn't Robert. Just wait.

    p.s. I don't personally care who wins.
    After all that investment?
  • tyson said:

    JackW said:

    FOP ....

    :smiley:


    Sorry what is FOP?
    I think its:

    - Florida
    - Ohio
    - Pennslyvania
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,155
    IanB2 said:

    In Britain the rural areas are always last; in the US they seem to have overcome this, I guess because they are smaller?

    Yeah, I'm guessing the precincts are much larger in US cities.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    AndyJS said:

    Swings so far indicated by exit polls compared to 2012 result:

    To Clinton:

    Georgia: 3.2%
    North Carolina: 2.0%
    South Carolina: 1.5%
    Virginia: 1.9%

    To Trump:

    Indiana: 2.1%
    Kentucky: 1.9%
    Ohio: 1.6%

    Clinton getting swing where it matters, right?
  • MaxPB said:

    Very surprised Clinton still @ 1.22

    Yes, especially after that NC exit poll.
    Free money available frankly.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    edited November 2016
    NYT live predict from Clinton's perspective:

    MI +6.3
    WI +5.4
    VA +4.6
    CO +4.4
    PA +3.7
    NV +2.4
    NC +1.6
    FL +0.3
    OH -0.1
    IA -0.5
    AZ -2.6
    GA -2.9
    TX -5.5

    Nationally they reckon Clinton about +4ish, although it's bouncing around like a mad thing. 538's final poll was +3.6%
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Tony said:

    Florida results coming in are the early votes, which we know Hilary was doing well on .
    Trump's expected to win the vote on the day?
    Am I missing something?

    This
  • Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.
  • ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    edited November 2016
    After all the analysis of turnout by education or race, the one that looks to be the most significant was staring us in the face - the women's vote in a race with a female candidate.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    IanB2 said:

    American election programmes have a very different feel to British ones. Much better analysis and less time wasting listening to clueless vox pops and partisan commentators trying to spin the results.

    They don't have that empty hour and a half to fill, and then another hour when the only result is from sunderland
    Yes but in any case it is far better – a focus on the maths, geography and numbers rather than meaningless talking heads. We should learn from them. The CNN coverage is very good (apart from the key race alert)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Looking good for Republicans in the Senate so far. Ohio called by CNN for the Republicans.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,155

    Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.

    A pretty significant consolation prize
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2016
    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Swings so far indicated by exit polls compared to 2012 result:

    To Clinton:

    Georgia: 3.2%
    North Carolina: 2.0%
    South Carolina: 1.5%
    Virginia: 1.9%

    To Trump:

    Indiana: 2.1%
    Kentucky: 1.9%
    Ohio: 1.6%

    Clinton getting swing where it matters, right?
    Where it matters in that region so far. All those Clinton swings are on the east and south-east coast. Trump's only hope is that everywhere outside that sub-region is better for him.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    Saltire said:

    Surprised SC not called yet, must be closer than expected

    There is basically no results in yet to call the result with (less than 4000 on the CNN site)

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/south-carolina

    Ah, just watching CNN and here...
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    Surprised SC not called yet, must be closer than expected

    The exit poll seems pretty clear - women tied, men Trump well ahead. http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/south-carolina
  • Is there a reason why Rand Paul is running 6% behind Trump in KY ?

    It suggests he's less popular than Trump which would be a bit embarrassing.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited November 2016
    Jobabob said:

    IanB2 said:

    American election programmes have a very different feel to British ones. Much better analysis and less time wasting listening to clueless vox pops and partisan commentators trying to spin the results.

    They don't have that empty hour and a half to fill, and then another hour when the only result is from sunderland
    Yes but in any case it is far better – a focus on the maths, geography and numbers rather than meaningless talking heads. We should learn from them. The CNN coverage is very good (apart from the key race alert)
    It's interesting because a standard CNN political programming is far worse, often having 6-8 talking heads on their panel. This is much better with just the data analysis.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333

    Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.

    Good, hopefully they keep the House as well, at least Clinton will be frustrated for the next four years by cohabitation.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333
    edited November 2016
    Trump in to 5, for a couple of seconds!
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    Looking good for Republicans in the Senate so far. Ohio called by CNN for the Republicans.

    Will hopefully limit Clinton's attempts to screw the American people over in favour of big business.
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525

    Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.

    Why? None of the key races NH,Penn or NV where the Dems need to win all 3 to get at least a 50-50 tie assuming that they gain WI and IL have closed the polls yet.
  • TonyTony Posts: 159
    rcs1000 said:

    Tony said:

    Florida results coming in are the early votes, which we know Hilary was doing well on .
    Trump's expected to win the vote on the day?
    Am I missing something?

    No, it's not early votes, but early counties that are reporting.
    Could be wrong , but fairly sure the early counties report early votes first.
    So mail / early votes which they've had hold of for a while.
    It's why each county has a % reported figure that goes up.
  • Andrew said:

    NYT live predict from Clinton's perspective:

    MI +6.3
    WI +5.4
    VA +4.6
    CO +4.4
    PA +3.7
    NV +2.4
    NC +1.6
    FL +0.3
    OH -0.1
    IA -0.5
    AZ -2.6
    GA -2.9
    TX -5.5

    Nationally they reckon Clinton about +4ish, although it's bouncing around like a mad thing. 538's final poll was +3.6%

    is this based on actual data or their finger in the air?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    RobD said:

    Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.

    A pretty significant consolation prize
    RobD said:

    Looks like Republicans will hold the Senate.

    A pretty significant consolation prize
    That kinda shows that if GOP had put up a candidate who wasn't a vile pussygrabbing, psychotic, narcissistic, tax evading, Putin loving, maniac... they would have walked it......
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449

    Looking good for Republicans in the Senate so far. Ohio called by CNN for the Republicans.

    The Democrats gave up on that one weeks ago. NC is a key race
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923
    AndyJS said:

    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Swings so far indicated by exit polls compared to 2012 result:

    To Clinton:

    Georgia: 3.2%
    North Carolina: 2.0%
    South Carolina: 1.5%
    Virginia: 1.9%

    To Trump:

    Indiana: 2.1%
    Kentucky: 1.9%
    Ohio: 1.6%

    Clinton getting swing where it matters, right?
    All those Clinton swings are on the east and south-east coast. Trump's only hope is that everywhere outside that sub-region is better for him.
    Ohio isn't showing enough swing to Trump to allow him to pick up much in the rust belt.

    I may go to bed. SpreadEx will be writing me another cheque.
  • Clinton now @ 1.23!!

    Losers.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    jonny83 said:

    Clinton seems to be matching or bettering Obama's results from Florida in 2012. If that pattern continues Florida is hers.

    Yes, there seems to be a misconception about early votes reporting. My sense is that reporting is more by county than by timing of the vote.

    She should carry the state. But if she wins PA, MI and NC, she won't even need it.
  • I'm not pulling out any more cash to back her though. An extra grand in the pot is enough.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923

    Clinton now @ 1.23!!

    Losers.

    I'm locked out! Bastards.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Florida on a knife edge. Trump may just do it by a few hundred votes.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,155
    edited November 2016
    Still no results from (democract leaning) Broward county, FL, which has a pop of 1.8million
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Thrak said:

    CNN poll, NC edging Clinton, Ohio basically tied.

    Florida, NC, Virgina... Clinton is POTUS.
    So you keep endlessly repeating. It's too soon to be sure. This could be a long night.
    I know you want Trump to win, and I feel for you. But the evidence is now overwhelming: Hillary Clinton is next POTUS.
    It isn't Robert. Just wait.

    p.s. I don't personally care who wins.
    I think you do going by your previous posts.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,666
    Trump pulling away in Florida...
  • DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    Clinton 1.27 at Betfair.
  • RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    In Britain the rural areas are always last; in the US they seem to have overcome this, I guess because they are smaller?

    Yeah, I'm guessing the precincts are much larger in US cities.
    And you have to count the graveyard vote.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,191
    IanB2 said:

    In Britain the rural areas are always last; in the US they seem to have overcome this, I guess because they are smaller?

    I believe they count in situ not centrally which speeds things up
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,923
    MikeK said:

    Florida on a knife edge. Trump may just do it by a few hundred votes.

    No, Broward County still to come. Clinton is outperforming Obama handily.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,333
    I do think the GOP need to go for Kasich next time. A rust belt Governor, sensible, will pledge to bring back jobs to the rust belt, won't be a mental case and will give them the best shot of winning IMO, especially if Clinton runs again.
  • MaxPB said:

    Trump in to 5, for a couple of seconds!

    I'm trying to work out the best way of capitalising on this delay in Betfair believing it..
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