Are these states TCTC or Too early to call? There is a bit of difference since it might be that they don't have enough info to make the call rather than it is too close.
Ignore this TCTC BS. Ever since 2000, they delay calling states that are within +/-10%. They'll call SC and GA as soon as they have 2% of precincts reporting.
Are these states TCTC or Too early to call? There is a bit of difference since it might be that they don't have enough info to make the call rather than it is too close.
Are these states TCTC or Too early to call? There is a bit of difference since it might be that they don't have enough info to make the call rather than it is too close.
One of the news channels said they are being more cautious with calling states after mess ups in the past
AndyJS....bloody good stuff....but can you please draw out any anomalies when they come up/ I'm a man, and am incapable of going more than one task at any one time...
i just realised it must be almost exactly 12 years since I first stumbled on politicalbetting.com. as it was at the time of the Bush/Kerry election. An infrequent poster, and infrequent gambler at that but must have visited every week, almost every day, since then. All the best to Mike Smithson for his great work.
houndtag - I think you and I must have joined the PB.com community at around the same time. perhaps I beat you by a few months.
Veterans then. Must be a quite a few old timers from 2004 on here though.
They are clearly seeing numbers we haven't yet, and they are clearly definitive looking. 10 mins and I guess we will see what they are.
Yes it does suggest they have seen new numbers. Luntz would be unlikely to stake his whole reputation on such an early call otherwise (I would assume).
How is the 24 hour room service sir? Enjoying the night?
Think you are confusing me with another poster. I am at home...no fancy hotel for me this evening.
Apologies. Yes, I was confusing you with @Mortimer.
Hope your home wine cellar is suitably stocked sir!
South Carolina was not called until 12:55 GMT last time according to Andy's spreadsheet so no great surprise that it has not been called right away tonight.
Interesting that apparently the US parties had no particular colours but they were chosen for them by a tv channel to illustrate their results map in the early days of colour tv, and they stuck.
In the UK parties used all sorts of different colours in different locations, which gradually harmonised with the spread of mass media.
Andrew Neil explains that political colors Red and Blue actually means the opposite of what it does in the rest of the world
I got the impression when the colours decision was made (20 years ago?) that the GOP wanted to be red because it was a more American colour. In the end the Dems were probably not too unhappy since being blue means they aren't associated with international socialism/communism.
Hmm.. If Georgia and South Carolina are close, I don't think Trump will make it.
Georgia not surprising, was only Trump+4, but SC was Trump+7....
SC too EARLY to call, Trump leading.
SC, Trump. Looks like Georgia is going for Clinton based on the demographics.
It's over guys. Clinton won, 330-350 EVs.
We had this kind of nonsense on GE2015 night and on Brexit night. Just hold your horses.
Not at all, some accurate calls were made for Leave very early on in the evening which helped a lot of us make a lot of money. Same was true (albeit to a lesser extent) with GE2015.
Hmm.. If Georgia and South Carolina are close, I don't think Trump will make it.
Georgia not surprising, was only Trump+4, but SC was Trump+7....
SC too EARLY to call, Trump leading.
SC, Trump. Looks like Georgia is going for Clinton based on the demographics.
It's over guys. Clinton won, 330-350 EVs.
That's true — unless Trump sweeps the Rust Belt.
Swing is swing. Clinton is outperforming Obama.
It's over.
Except that this election has a whole load of other factors (such a a Rep appealing to completely different demographics than usual). Calm down a bit, we need a lot more before we can make a call.
Trump 48 Hillary 47 (Women are a very high 55% of voters there)
Virginia Hillary 51 Trump 43
S.Carolina
Trump 50 Hillary 43
Indiana
Trump 54 Hillary 40
Kentucky
Trump 62 Hillary 35
Commentator on BBC making the point that there have been big moves of African Americans from north to south because of differential living costs.
Also a lot of tech companies and college-educated people are migrating down the eastern seaboard - it's becoming more like California - the whole coast will be blue states within a generation. The GOP are possibly getting PA and MI in return, though the Dems are pushing back.
538: We’re getting reports that voting hours will be extended for anywhere from 20 to 60 minutes in a number of Durham, North Carolina, polling places. There were problems with voting machines in this area earlier today — computers broke down and some voting had to be done on paper — and polling officials are likely trying to account for this delay.
Trump 48 Hillary 47 (Women are a very high 55% of voters there)
Virginia Hillary 51 Trump 43
S.Carolina
Trump 50 Hillary 43
Indiana
Trump 54 Hillary 40
Kentucky
Trump 62 Hillary 35
Commentator on BBC making the point that there have been big moves of African Americans from north to south because of differential living costs.
Also a lot of tech companies and college-educated people are migrating down the eastern seaboard - it's becoming more like California - the whole coast will be blue states within a generation. The GOP are possibly getting PA and MI in return, though the Dems are pushing back.
The GOP will be playing Mad Max in flyover country...
Trump 48 Hillary 47 (Women are a very high 55% of voters there)
Virginia Hillary 51 Trump 43
S.Carolina
Trump 50 Hillary 43
Indiana
Trump 54 Hillary 40
Kentucky
Trump 62 Hillary 35
Commentator on BBC making the point that there have been big moves of African Americans from north to south because of differential living costs.
Also a lot of tech companies and college-educated people are migrating down the eastern seaboard - it's becoming more like California - the whole coast will be blue states within a generation. The GOP are possibly getting PA and MI in return, though the Dems are pushing back.
If magicLeap becomes as big as the backers hope, Florida could become one massive tech hub.
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There is a bit of difference since it might be that they don't have enough info to make the call rather than it is too close.
Yes – that was my assumption. Pretty rubbish exit poll though. Where is CNN's projection?
Trump 48.2%
Clinton 46.8%
Women — 55% of voters.
I did call GA very tightly for Trump on my 270to win.
But it isn't. Clinton still at 1.19
In case I wasn't clear enough from my previous tweets:
Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.
Trump 48
Hillary 47 (Women are a very high 55% of voters there)
Virginia
Hillary 51
Trump 43
S.Carolina
Trump 50
Hillary 43
Indiana
Trump 54
Hillary 40
Kentucky
Trump 62
Hillary 35
SC, Trump.
Looks like Georgia is going for Clinton based on the demographics.
It's over guys. Clinton won, 330-350 EVs.
Hope your home wine cellar is suitably stocked sir!
Georgia is close though.
If Hillary is winning Virginia by 8 then the USA has embraced one of the two bullets of this election.
https://twitter.com/CapX/status/796142091357351936
It's over.
We know now.
Clinton is outperforming Obama (2012). It's over.
In the UK parties used all sorts of different colours in different locations, which gradually harmonised with the spread of mass media.
Looking like it is indeed over as Robert says.
Rubio 67%
Murphy 28%
The share of young voters is higher than that of Pensioners, a complete reversal from normal.
She isn't. You are talking hogwash. Just bide your time.
Clinton 3
According to BBC
Now the joke is wearing somewhat thin.
Florida early count (2% counted): Donald Trump 58.5 Hillary Clinton 30.2%
We’re getting reports that voting hours will be extended for anywhere from 20 to 60 minutes in a number of Durham, North Carolina, polling places. There were problems with voting machines in this area earlier today — computers broke down and some voting had to be done on paper — and polling officials are likely trying to account for this delay.
Trump 75%
Clinton 22%
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/states/georgia