I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Non-sarcastic question for Brexit supporters: One of the things that comes up in the Japanese document, which seems to be written mainly from the point of view of Japanese companies with offices and factories in Britain, is that after Brexit they still want common regulations shared between Britain and the EU. For example, they don't want to have to deal with one set of rules on pharmaceuticals for Britain and another set for the EU.
Assuming Britain opts into this sector-by-sector, how would you guys feel about it? It's obvious to see why it's in Britain's interests to do this, but the weird thing about the situation is that you're supposed to have Taken Back Control but now you're obeying the same rules, only you now have little or no say in how they're made.
Do you say, fair enough, in each case Britain is doing this in its own interests and as long as it's free and sovereign to stop harmonizing and start applying different rules instead then everything's fine? Or would leaving the EU only to recreate a bunch of EU regulations as domestic regulations strike you as a sell-out?
Where possible these should be agreed on a global basis (many such already are), and the British position should be represented in discussions by British politicians and officials, not by EU politicians and officials (unlike at present).
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Considering the way our elite dumped them to join the EU we are very lucky, but then I guess Blood is thicker than water and they are happy to join the 'peoples army'
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
The fault in society is being made larger by the likes of Alistair Meeks - hardened Remainers, who cannot, or rather will not, reconcile themselves to the Leavers majority in the Brexit referendum.
Yup
Bollocks.
Leavers never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum and whinged and moaned about it for 41 years
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
Yep, there's a lot of goodwill from those countries, and seemingly a willingness to come to a mutually beneficial agreement quickly.
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
I hope so, Mr. Max, I do hope so. Of course, with Canucks, Aussies and Kiwis negotiating on the British side as well as their own agreement shouldn't be too difficult to achieve. Have to watch the Canadians though, they played a double game in 1940.
Mr. Bedfordshire, indeed we are lucky that they seem prepared to forgive us for our treatment of them in 1973. Heath really was a horrid chap.
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to persist.
The only thing that is unusual is that for the last 20 years (since Blair) politics has been utterly dominated by the metropolitan tendency with a very narrow worldview and the contempt that Londoners have always had for their country cousins.
That was simply unhealthy, and I'm glad that the natural order has reasserted itself. London has a hugely important role to play in the country, but its priorities and interests are different from those of the rest of the realm and it should never been allow to hold sway.
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
Most large cities, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Bristol, Brighton, Liverpool, Leicester etc voted Remain and while some did vote Leave eg Birmingham and Sunderland big Cities were clearly more pro Remain than the national average. Those cities that did vote Leave tended to have more in common with Leave voting working class towns than they did with inner London
Most Metroplitan Borough Councils (outside London) voted Leave as well as cities like Portsmouth, Plymouth,Nottingham, Middlesborough, Derby, Stoke, and the Bournemouth conurbation. In fact, every borough in South Yorkshire and West Midlands voted Leave.
Yes but all of those cities you mention are outside the top 10 largest in the UK and are more like large towns than big cities
There is only one BIG city in the UK.
Birmingham/West Midlands has easily more than 1 million people.
That's piddling
In fact, Birmingham is the single most populous local council area in the UK.
Would she be first Minister if she had not had a miscarriage? She is not sure.
But I don't think she was married at that time.So she avoided having a bastard!
Eh? We agree on many things and I know you have strong views on moral matters, but that seems to me an extremely unpleasant comment.
I am a bit surprised you say that to be honest.At the end of the day , the word 'bastard' is a legal term, and if such things no longer matter why do so many people get upset when it is used.There seems to be an inherent contradiction there - the fact that people respond in such a way rather suggests that at a certain level it still 'does' matter.Personally, I am very strongly opposed to judging people on the basis of whether or not they were born in wedlock - I reserve my criticism entirely for the parents. Re - Nicola Sturgeon I was totally wrong - and I am very pleased to discover that to have been the case.
Can't we postpone the election for six months, tell the two main parties to go away and choose a sensible candidate, then have a campaign based on policy choices and current issues? Please.
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to persist.
The only thing that is unusual is that for the last 20 years (since Blair) politics has been utterly dominated by the metropolitan tendency with a very narrow worldview and the contempt that Londoners have always had for their country cousins.
That was simply unhealthy, and I'm glad that the natural order has reasserted itself. London has a hugely important role to play in the country, but its priorities and interests are different from those of the rest of the realm and it should never been allow to hold sway.
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
Most large cities, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Bristol, Brighton, Liverpool, Leicester etc voted Remain and while some did vote Leave eg Birmingham and Sunderland big Cities were clearly more pro Remain than the national average. Those cities that did vote Leave tended to have more in common with Leave voting working class towns than they did with inner London
Most Metroplitan Borough Councils (outside London) voted Leave as well as cities like Portsmouth, Plymouth,Nottingham, Middlesborough, Derby, Stoke, and the Bournemouth conurbation. In fact, every borough in South Yorkshire and West Midlands voted Leave.
Yes but all of those cities you mention are outside the top 10 largest in the UK and are more like large towns than big cities
Birmingham and Sheffield - mentioned by implication in the metro-areas name-checked - are more than large towns.
Indeed but Birmingham and Sheffield only narrowly voted Leave i.e. by less than the national average
Sheffield voted LEAVE due to TSE's indefatigable canvassing skills
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
Non-sarcastic question for Brexit supporters: One of the things that comes up in the Japanese document, which seems to be written mainly from the point of view of Japanese companies with offices and factories in Britain, is that after Brexit they still want common regulations shared between Britain and the EU. For example, they don't want to have to deal with one set of rules on pharmaceuticals for Britain and another set for the EU.
Assuming Britain opts into this sector-by-sector, how would you guys feel about it? It's obvious to see why it's in Britain's interests to do this, but the weird thing about the situation is that you're supposed to have Taken Back Control but now you're obeying the same rules, only you now have little or no say in how they're made.
Do you say, fair enough, in each case Britain is doing this in its own interests and as long as it's free and sovereign to stop harmonizing and start applying different rules instead then everything's fine? Or would leaving the EU only to recreate a bunch of EU regulations as domestic regulations strike you as a sell-out?
You are assuming the rules are made at an EU level... The top table in many cases is not the EU.
Can't we postpone the election for six months, tell the two main parties to go away and choose a sensible candidate, then have a campaign based on policy choices and current issues? Please.
Can't we postpone the election for six months, tell the two main parties to go away and choose a sensible candidate, then have a campaign based on policy choices and current issues? Please.
Not all inner city parts of West Midlands. Although it was shameful that Birmingham voted Leave I was delighted that my ward was 70% Remain. That's because it has a high non-white population. There was almost perfect correlation between the percentage white population and the percentage Leave vote. The racist and ignorant residents of Kingstanding, Erdington, Bartley Green and Kings Norton swung the vote.
Why do you think the inhabitants of those places are racist and ignorant?
On standards, the nearest thing to hand is the new BT Smart Hub I installed last month,
It complies to RETTED 1999/5/EC.
That places three obligations on the manufacturer, one on the member state:
- Electrical safety and electrical interference. - Publication of physical and electrical interfaces to promote interoperability. - Disclosure of intended use and limitations thereof.
- Rules on access to RF spectrum (as the RF spectrum is not harmonised EU-wide).
The first two are defined elsewhere and incorporated in RETTED. The third is standard rubric in consumer law pretty much worldwide.
Always nice to have concrete examples of what can otherwise be fairly abstract discussions. I'm sure I'll be able to find a much more complex example later, but for now, it's time to test the leg on a more ambitious walk. Toodle pip!
Actually the RTTE directive, which requires compliance with the EMC directive is a typical example of how the EU takes it too far.
To comply you need to do tests to prove that the product does not emit electronic nasties but also the EU decided that you would have do do also much more expensive tests to prove your product is immune from others nasties.
The result is a huge cost before you can put it on the market which favours multinational corporations who can afford the tests and specialists over small and medium businesses that can't.
In the US only the emissions tests are required by law with immunity tests a contractual matter between seller and buyer.
Car makers will therefore tend to do the immunity tests to protect themselves from customer litigation but in areas where immunity has no safety implications (eg model railway engines) such tests wont be done making the product cheaper and making it easier for competition to enter the fray.
That explains one reason why the US economy for example is more resilient than the eurozones.
At the root of it is that the US takes a risk based approach whereas the EU operates under the dead hand of the precautionary principle which requires companies to expensively prove negatives to the immense benefit of large multinationals who have the specialist expertise to comply and lock out smaller competitors
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
Rubbish. London is a City with its own Mayor, Assembly and countless cathedrals. Westminster and Croydon are districts of London and the City of London governs itself while being part of the London area, the Lord Mayor of London and being a Freeman of the City are now almost entirely ceremonial roles
St Albans and Reading are not part of London other than being in commuter belt and the broader urban area
The fault in society is being made larger by the likes of Alistair Meeks - hardened Remainers, who cannot, or rather will not, reconcile themselves to the Leavers majority in the Brexit referendum.
Yup
Bollocks.
Leavers never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum and whinged and moaned about it for 41 years
Nonsense. Leaving the EU has only been a thing for the last 10-15 years. Even UKIP's logo is a pound sign not a union flag.
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to persist.
The only thing that is unusual is that for the last 20 years (since Blair) politics has been utterly dominated by the metropolitan tendency with a very narrow worldview and the contempt that Londoners have always had for their country cousins.
That was simply unhealthy, and I'm glad that the natural order has reasserted itself. London has a hugely important role to play in the country, but its priorities and interests are different from those of the rest of the realm and it should never been allow to hold sway.
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
Most large cities, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Bristol, Brighton, Liverpool, Leicester etc voted Remain and while some did vote Leave eg Birmingham and Sunderland big Cities were clearly more pro Remain than the national average. Those cities that did vote Leave tended to have more in common with Leave voting working class towns than they did with inner London
Most Metroplitan Borough Councils (outside London) voted Leave as well as cities like Portsmouth, Plymouth,Nottingham, Middlesborough, Derby, Stoke, and the Bournemouth conurbation. In fact, every borough in South Yorkshire and West Midlands voted Leave.
Yes but all of those cities you mention are outside the top 10 largest in the UK and are more like large towns than big cities
Birmingham and Sheffield - mentioned by implication in the metro-areas name-checked - are more than large towns.
Indeed but Birmingham and Sheffield only narrowly voted Leave i.e. by less than the national average
Sheffield voted LEAVE due to TSE's indefatigable canvassing skills
Not all inner city parts of West Midlands. Although it was shameful that Birmingham voted Leave I was delighted that my ward was 70% Remain. That's because it has a high non-white population. There was almost perfect correlation between the percentage white population and the percentage Leave vote. The racist and ignorant residents of Kingstanding, Erdington, Bartley Green and Kings Norton swung the vote.
Newham is significantly more non-white than Redbridge (where I'm currently posting from).
Can't we postpone the election for six months, tell the two main parties to go away and choose a sensible candidate, then have a campaign based on policy choices and current issues? Please.
Afraid not. Now get your popcorn ready.
Between Brexit, Labour and the US we've had enough popcorn for one year!
Now we have another five weeks of the two most unpopular presidential candidates of all time, with nothing positive to say and throwing ever larger bricks at each other until Election Day.
I see the Mirror have the Keith Vaz story. Not quite as good as Mark Oaten, but not a bad effort. Now what will Labour say to make today worse for him than it is already?
Finally, the sleazy Vaz's career will be over. Resigning from the Home Affairs Committee today?
Can we call him Keith Vazeline now?
Very good. Man prefers bare back riding.
Why is Vaz being stitched up? Frankly his private life is noone elses business. Where is the public interest in this story?
Perhaps go and find out more about what Keith Vaz is under investigation for.
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
Rubbish. London is a City with its own Mayor, Assembly and countless cathedrals. Westminster and Croydon are districts of London and the City of London governs itself while being part of the London area, the Lord Mayor of London and being a Freeman of the City are now almost entirely ceremonial roles
St Albans and Reading are not part of London other than being in commuter belt and the broader urban area
Lewisham has a mayor but is a borough of London. It this point I will leave this conversation (so you can ponder)....
Vaz- what a buffoon! He's brought his whole life into disrepute for what....yes for using those childish little smiley face things. I suppose he gets some credibility back by rent boys and class A's.
My wife said that people at work, a publishers, use them in their emails. What's the world coming to?
At least Vaz to my knowledge has not used the word "Yup." I mean what the hell is that?
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
She's also meeting India's PM Modi.
India and Nigeria and South Africa plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand should be the easiest to do a deal with and probably Russia too. The U.S. will be easy too if Trump wins but ironically harder if Hillary wins, though a strongly GOP Congress would help. Japan, South Korea and China will be more difficult, especially if we get no membership of the single market at all. Brazil and Mexico may also not be easy if it is hard BREXIT
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
And gradually merge into a rather larger 'united kingdom' spanning the globe. (which they already are de jure as they have the same King (Queen).
The empire is striking back. As Gerry Adams might have put it 'it never really went away'.
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to persist.
The only thing that is unusual is that for the last 20 years (since Blair) politics has been utterly dominated by the metropolitan tendency with a very narrow worldview and the contempt that Londoners have always had for their country cousins.
That was simply unhealthy, and I'm glad that the natural order has reasserted itself. London has a hugely important role to play in the country, but its priorities and interests are different from those of the rest of the realm and it should never been allow to hold sway.
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
Most large cities, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Bristol, Brighton, Liverpool, Leicester etc voted Remain and while some did vote Leave eg Birmingham and Sunderland big Cities were clearly more pro Remain than the national average. Those cities that did vote Leave tended to have more in common with Leave voting working class towns than they did with inner London
Most Metroplitan Borough Councils (outside London) voted Leave as well as cities like Portsmouth, Plymouth,Nottingham, Middlesborough, Derby, Stoke, and the Bournemouth conurbation. In fact, every borough in South Yorkshire and West Midlands voted Leave.
Yes but all of those cities you mention are outside the top 10 largest in the UK and are more like large towns than big cities
Birmingham and Sheffield - mentioned by implication in the metro-areas name-checked - are more than large towns.
Indeed but Birmingham and Sheffield only narrowly voted Leave i.e. by less than the national average
Sheffield voted LEAVE due to TSE's indefatigable canvassing skills
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to
That was simply unhealthy, and I'm glad that the natural order has reasserted itself. London has a hugely important role to play in the country, but its priorities and interests are different from those of the rest of the realm and it should never been allow to hold sway.
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
If you sum the votes of these ten English cities - Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Bradford, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Coventry, Brighton and Leicester, you get 53% Remain.
Include Newcastle, Nottingham, Sunderland, Southampton and Plymouth and Remain falls to 51%.
The outlier is clearly Inner London.
Now I can understand why the bankers and millionaires of Inner West London were heavily Remain but why were the deprived voters of Inner East London even more so and far more so than the deprived voters of Outer London.
London, or more particularly Inner London, is now a super wealthy global City on a par with New York City, Paris and Tokyo, the other cities are not in the same league and clearly not as wealthy. I can't see Trump getting many votes in Manhattan and Brooklyn or Marine Le Pen in central Paris either, all those cities think in international rather than national terms
True and that explains why the millionaires and bankers of Inner West London voted Remain.
Also, the arts / media leftists of Camden and Islington.
But why did the deprived voters of Inner London vote so strongly Remain - they're not benefitting from London being a super wealthy global city, in fact the contrary - it damages them economically and rubs their faces in inequality.
And a few miles further out the deprived voters of Outer London had the same pattern as those in other English cities.
There are lots of trendy middle classes in places like Streatham, Dulwich, Clapham, Blackheath, Stoke Newington, Hornsey, Muswell Hill, who voted overwhelmingly Remain. As to the rest, a huge proportion of Inner London's poor population is foreign-born.
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
Vaz- what a buffoon! He's brought his whole life into disrepute for what....yes for using those childish little smiley face things. I suppose he gets some credibility back by rent boys and class A's.
My wife said that people at work, a publishers, use them in their emails. What's the world coming to?
At least Vaz to my knowledge has not used the word "Yup." I mean what the hell is that?
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
I expect South Africa will soon be #5. Providing the democratic faction of the ANC prevails when they are on the brink of losing a general election to the Democratic Alliance.
Zimbabwe may also turn things round very rapidly once mugabe snuffs it.
Not all inner city parts of West Midlands. Although it was shameful that Birmingham voted Leave I was delighted that my ward was 70% Remain. That's because it has a high non-white population. There was almost perfect correlation between the percentage white population and the percentage Leave vote. The racist and ignorant residents of Kingstanding, Erdington, Bartley Green and Kings Norton swung the vote.
Newham is significantly more non-white than Redbridge (where I'm currently posting from).
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
I think you are over interpreting this - and looking at it through the wrong prism.
This is simply the metropolitan / non-metropolitan divide. Leave/Remain has just thrown it into sharp relief.
It's a divide that has persisted for centuries and, no doubt, will continue to persist.
The only thing that is unusual is that for the last 20 years (since Blair) politics has been utterly dominated by the metropolitan tendency with a very narrow worldview and the contempt that Londoners have always had for their country cousins.
That was simply unhealthy, and I.....
Indeed.
And exacerbated by the metropolitans being so incompetent and so unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their own failures.
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
Most large cities, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Bristol, Brighton, Liverpool, Leicester etc voted Remain and while some did vote Leave eg Birmingham and Sunderland big Ci...
Most Metroplitan Borough Councils (outside London) voted Leave as well as cities like Portsmouth, Plymouth,Nottingham, Middlesborough, Derby, Stoke, and the Bournemouth conurbation. In fact, every borough in South Yorkshire and West Midlands voted Leave.
Yes but all of those cities you mention are outside the top 10 largest in the UK and are more like large towns than big cities
Birmingham and Sheffield - mentioned by implication in the metro-areas name-checked - are more than large towns.
Indeed but Birmingham and Sheffield only narrowly voted Leave i.e. by less than the national average
Sheffield voted LEAVE due to TSE's indefatigable canvassing skills
Please remind us what TSE's canvassing reports from Sheffield told us about how things were going on the ground. My memory is a little hazy about them, as I thought he mainly met REMAINer voters, but I could be wrong as I cannot promise to have read all TSE's canvass reports from Sheffield. Is it also true that TSE received training in canvass reports from NickP or is that just a vicious allegation?
Rubbish. London is a City with its own Mayor, Assembly and countless cathedrals. Westminster and Croydon are districts of London and the City of London governs itself while being part of the London area, the Lord Mayor of London and being a Freeman of the City are now almost entirely ceremonial roles
St Albans and Reading are not part of London other than being in commuter belt and the broader urban area
Lewisham has a mayor but is a borough of London. It this point I will leave this conversation (so you can ponder)....
Lewisham elects members to the London Assembly and votes for the London Mayor, unlike Reading and St Albans which are in Berkshire and Hertfordshire even with Reading now being a unitary authority
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Which also explains a lot of the leave vote in ethnic minority areas.
Fed up to the back teeth with hassle and huge visa fees, even if they are Doctors; while uneducated Eastern Europeans with an extensive criminal record can enter when they feel like it without let of hindrance
Can't we postpone the election for six months, tell the two main parties to go away and choose a sensible candidate, then have a campaign based on policy choices and current issues? Please.
i agree on the republican side. it is obvious that its trump which is pushing the whole thing in the gutter. I guess that is where he is most comfortable!
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Which also explains a lot of the leave vote in ethnic minority areas.
Fed up to the back teeth with hassle and huge visa fees, even if they are Doctors; while uneducated Eastern Europeans with an extensive criminal record can enter when they feel like it without let of hindrance
#liberalracism
Yes Commonwealth Origin Leave votes are explained by that
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
She's also meeting India's PM Modi.
India and Nigeria and South Africa plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand should be the easiest to do a deal with and probably Russia too. The U.S. will be easy too if Trump wins but ironically harder if Hillary wins, though a strongly GOP Congress would help. Japan, South Korea and China will be more difficult, especially if we get no membership of the single market at all. Brazil and Mexico may also not be easy if it is hard BREXIT
We owe a huge debt to HM Queen who has determinedly kept the institution of the Commonwealth alive through the last 50 years.
In 20 years time I suspect the annual commonwealth heads of government meeting will again as big a news item as EU summits currently are. By that time even US states might want to join.
Mr Glenn will no doubt be along shortly to disagree.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
And why shouldn't they, Mr. Fire. And why should it bother us if they do?
It's Inner London that's the outlier (72% Remain). Outer London only voted 54% Remain, which makes it more similar to the rest of urban England (45% Remain) than to Inner London.
If you sum the votes of these ten English cities - Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Bradford, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Coventry, Brighton and Leicester, you get 53% Remain.
Include Newcastle, Nottingham, Sunderland, Southampton and Plymouth and Remain falls to 51%.
The outlier is clearly Inner London.
Now I can understand why the bankers and millionaires of Inner West London were heavily Remain but why were the deprived voters of Inner East London even more so and far more so than the deprived voters of Outer London.
London, or more particularly Inner London, is now a super wealthy global City on a par with New York City, Paris and Tokyo, the other cities are not in the same league and clearly not as wealthy. I can't see Trump getting many votes in Manhattan and Brooklyn or Marine Le Pen in central Paris either, all those cities think in international rather than national terms
True and that explains why the millionaires and bankers of Inner West London voted Remain.
Also, the arts / media leftists of Camden and Islington.
But why did the deprived voters of Inner London vote so strongly Remain - they're not benefitting from London being a super wealthy global city, in fact the contrary - it damages them economically and rubs their faces in inequality.
And a few miles further out the deprived voters of Outer London had the same pattern as those in other English cities.
There are lots of trendy middle classes in places like Streatham, Dulwich, Clapham, Blackheath, Stoke Newington, Hornsey, Muswell Hill, who voted overwhelmingly Remain. As to the rest, a huge proportion of Inner London's poor population is foreign-born.
That sounds right - Inner London's working class (both white and non-white) has now been decanted to Outer London and further afield.
The new Inner London working class is increasingly an immigrant serf population.
I suspect much of the trendy middle class of Inner London lacks traditional middle class attributes of wealth, home ownership or even status employment.
These are the least of the allegations against Keith Vaz...
There is also something rather ironic that it he has been caught out by Romanians again.
I don't come to rob your country': First Romanians to arrive in Britain following changes to EU migrant rules insist they are looking for work after being greeted at the airport by Labour MP Keith Vaz **
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Hopefully. I'd rather have freedom of movement with like-minded nations like Australia and New Zealand rather than much more foreign places like Romania and Estonia.
God I am bored: Does anyone know what the official Capital-City of the UK is?
No - I think it would need a supreme court ruling to decide if it is London (city and county of) or Westminster or Greater London or maybe still even Winchester because no one got round to putting a bill through parliament changing it.
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Hopefully. I'd rather have freedom of movement with like-minded nations like Australia and New Zealand rather than much more foreign places like Romania and Estonia.
I would rather have freedom of movement with of the southern African nations than them.
Vaz- what a buffoon! He's brought his whole life into disrepute for what....yes for using those childish little smiley face things. I suppose he gets some credibility back by rent boys and class A's.
My wife said that people at work, a publishers, use them in their emails. What's the world coming to?
At least Vaz to my knowledge has not used the word "Yup." I mean what the hell is that?
The great thing about your posts, Tyson old mucker, is that they so often appear almost like spoofs.
A smiley face at the end of what could otherwise be construed as a serious post would lighten the tone no end.
More seriously, I use smileys with my friends to tell them when I'm joshing... I suspect it works at work, too - especially in slightly less formal environments like publishers.
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
The big problem for the 48% is that they are actually the 4.8%.
The other 43.2% voted out of fear or because they trusted the establishment, are not much interested in the EU and a good number would actually prefer to leave but didnt want the disruption caused by the process.
The 52% took a decision to defy the leaders of all the main parties, the great and good, foreign leaders, captains of industry and world bodies and a huge state sponsored propaganda campaign
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
The big problem for the 48% is that they are actually the 4.8%.
The other 43.2% voted out of fear or because they trusted the establishment, are not much interested in the EU and a good number would actually prefer to leave but didnt want the disruption caused by the process.
The 52% took a decision to defy the leaders of all the main parties, the great and good, foreign leaders, captains of industry and world bodies and a huge state sponsored propaganda campaign
This can only go one way....
I think that real enthusiasts for the EU are more numerous, say 15% or so. But, plainly a lot of the 48% don't like the EU, so Brexit is likely to become the consensus.
As I pointed out earlier London is the only global City in the UK but there are plenty of big cities in the UK too
London is not a city: It does contain three cities; namely 'The City of London', 'Westminster' and 'Croydon'. London is a metropolitan and urban conurbation: At its largest extent is encompasses places such as St-Albans and Reading. [Sadly!]
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
She's also meeting India's PM Modi.
India and Nigeria and South Africa plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand should be the easiest to do a deal with and probably Russia too. The U.S. will be easy too if Trump wins but ironically harder if Hillary wins, though a strongly GOP Congress would help. Japan, South Korea and China will be more difficult, especially if we get no membership of the single market at all. Brazil and Mexico may also not be easy if it is hard BREXIT
We owe a huge debt to HM Queen who has determinedly kept the institution of the Commonwealth alive through the last 50 years.
In 20 years time I suspect the annual commonwealth heads of government meeting will again as big a news item as EU summits currently are. By that time even US states might want to join.
Mr Glenn will no doubt be along shortly to disagree.
There's a great opportunity here for the Commonwealth to form a free trade zone, there's a common language and legal system, opportunites for imports and exports free of tariffs. As you say, well done to HMQ for keeping this institution together through good and bad times.
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Sounds good to me. Many, many years ago I used to play bridge at a club in Earls Court, London. The area was over run with Aussies. A lot of dentists and others of the backpacking persuasion who seemed genetically engineered for bar work. Nothing wrong with Aussies doing their world tour - they might throw up a lot after a night out but they don't try and set up their own colonies or encourage others to blow themselves up.
Visa free access to the Aussies, and the Kiwis, is fine by me.
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Indeed. I actually expect that the four nations will conclude a free trade agreement for goods and services fairly rapidly and possibly even an easier working visa zone as well.
What'll be interesting is the number of trade deals with African commonwealth countries.
Andrew Mitchell was pushing a deal with Nigeria last week and May will work on South Africa at the G20
She's also meeting India's PM Modi.
India and Nigeria and South Africa plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand should be the easiest to do a deal with and probably Russia too. The U.S. will be easy too if Trump wins but ironically harder if Hillary wins, though a strongly GOP Congress would help. Japan, South Korea and China will be more difficult, especially if we get no membership of the single market at all. Brazil and Mexico may also not be easy if it is hard BREXIT
We owe a huge debt to HM Queen who has determinedly kept the institution of the Commonwealth alive through the last 50 years.
In 20 years time I suspect the annual commonwealth heads of government meeting will again as big a news item as EU summits currently are. By that time even US states might want to join.
Mr Glenn will no doubt be along shortly to disagree.
There's a great opportunity here for the Commonwealth to form a free trade zone, there's a common language and legal system, opportunites for imports and exports free of tariffs. As you say, well done to HMQ for keeping this institution together through good and bad times.
Was this Mirror sting another Guido co-op? Even if not, sounds like Staines is dusting off the files from the filing cabinet.
Isn't he contracted to the Sun?
AFAIK, not anymore no e.g. He doesn't do the Sunday gossip column, and I believe the Newmark story got offered around all the tabloids (I think it went in the MoS in the end).
Was this Mirror sting another Guido co-op? Even if not, sounds like Staines is dusting off the files from the filing cabinet.
Isn't he contracted to the Sun?
AFAIK, not anymore no e.g. He doesn't do the Sunday gossip column, and I believe the Newmark story got offered around all the tabloids (I think it went in the MoS in the end).
Ah. Harry Cole does column though - guess he's Sun payroll now
Was this Mirror sting another Guido co-op? Even if not, sounds like Staines is dusting off the files from the filing cabinet.
Isn't he contracted to the Sun?
AFAIK, not anymore no e.g. He doesn't do the Sunday gossip column, and I believe the Newmark story got offered around all the tabloids (I think it went in the MoS in the end).
Ah. Harry Cole does column though - guess he's Sun payroll now
Harry Cole doesn't work for Staines anymore. In fact, Staines doesn't even work full time on the site anymore, apparently only there 3 days a week.
I'm curious as to why deprived inner London voted so heavily for Remain.
Now I can understand why economically successful parts of London - Westminster, Kensington, Richmond, Wandsworth - did so.
But why would people in Lambeth and Haringey and Hackney and Southwark be even more Remain ?
The same areas which also voted YesAV.
Perhaps because pretending that you're a member of the successful metropolitan internationalist elite hides that you're sharing a flat in a crime ridden shithole with a crap job and with a load of debt ?
Perhaps they are packed with immigrants or EU citizens
I know this isn't exactly news as rumour of it have been circulating for some time (the first offer was made by New Zealand at the end of June), but it seems to me to be hugely significant:
"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
Australia et al aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that they can take advantage of the fact we have no trade expertise to get some very good deals for themselves.
They will also want better visa and passport terms from the UK than they got when it was in the EU
Sounds good to me. Many, many years ago I used to play bridge at a club in Earls Court, London. The area was over run with Aussies. A lot of dentists and others of the backpacking persuasion who seemed genetically engineered for bar work. Nothing wrong with Aussies doing their world tour - they might throw up a lot after a night out but they don't try and set up their own colonies or encourage others to blow themselves up.
Visa free access to the Aussies, and the Kiwis, is fine by me.
Absolutely. It works fine when the countries involved are of similar wealth and the immigration is to fill skills gaps in trades and professions, students and young people enjoying some travel.
It doesn't work well when there's a massive wealth discrepancy as well as a state support system in the richer country that others can claim from. EU freedom of movement would not have become half the problem it did without tax credits and housing benefit, especially in London.
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"news that Australia, New Zealand and Canada will lend the government their own expert trade negotiators. "
As in 1914 and 1939 the old dominions are rallying round to help dig the UK out of the shit.
"Think it’s been ugly? You’ve seen nothing yet."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-september-debate-227714#ixzz4JHqhdnFo
"Croydon is a large town"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon
Mr. Bedfordshire, indeed we are lucky that they seem prepared to forgive us for our treatment of them in 1973. Heath really was a horrid chap.
Assume St Albans and Reading still count (metro-wise)?
Re - Nicola Sturgeon I was totally wrong - and I am very pleased to discover that to have been the case.
To comply you need to do tests to prove that the product does not emit electronic nasties but also the EU decided that you would have do do also much more expensive tests to prove your product is immune from others nasties.
The result is a huge cost before you can put it on the market which favours multinational corporations who can afford the tests and specialists over small and medium businesses that can't.
In the US only the emissions tests are required by law with immunity tests a contractual matter between seller and buyer.
Car makers will therefore tend to do the immunity tests to protect themselves from customer litigation but in areas where immunity has no safety implications (eg model railway engines) such tests wont be done making the product cheaper and making it easier for competition to enter the fray.
That explains one reason why the US economy for example is more resilient than the eurozones.
At the root of it is that the US takes a risk based approach whereas the EU operates under the dead hand of the precautionary principle which requires companies to expensively prove negatives to the immense benefit of large multinationals who have the specialist expertise to comply and lock out smaller competitors
St Albans and Reading are not part of London other than being in commuter belt and the broader urban area
Newham voted 53% REMAIN, whilst Redbridge voted 54% REMAIN.
Now we have another five weeks of the two most unpopular presidential candidates of all time, with nothing positive to say and throwing ever larger bricks at each other until Election Day.
My wife said that people at work, a publishers, use them in their emails. What's the world coming to?
At least Vaz to my knowledge has not used the word "Yup." I mean what the hell is that?
The empire is striking back. As Gerry Adams might have put it 'it never really went away'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London_Built-up_Area
Zimbabwe may also turn things round very rapidly once mugabe snuffs it.
Fed up to the back teeth with hassle and huge visa fees, even if they are Doctors; while uneducated Eastern Europeans with an extensive criminal record can enter when they feel like it without let of hindrance
#liberalracism
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/09/02/8-more-things-weve-learned-our-labour-leadership-e/
In 20 years time I suspect the annual commonwealth heads of government meeting will again as big a news item as EU summits currently are. By that time even US states might want to join.
Mr Glenn will no doubt be along shortly to disagree.
The seat of government is Westminster.
The new Inner London working class is increasingly an immigrant serf population.
I suspect much of the trendy middle class of Inner London lacks traditional middle class attributes of wealth, home ownership or even status employment.
It all makes sense now:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/01/article-2532062-1A5DA1C100000578-814_634x410.jpg
https://twitter.com/glyndaviesmp/status/772366620903768065
A smiley face at the end of what could otherwise be construed as a serious post would lighten the tone no end.
More seriously, I use smileys with my friends to tell them when I'm joshing... I suspect it works at work, too - especially in slightly less formal environments like publishers.
Edit - And then Stokes gets out...
The other 43.2% voted out of fear or because they trusted the establishment, are not much interested in the EU and a good number would actually prefer to leave but didnt want the disruption caused by the process.
The 52% took a decision to defy the leaders of all the main parties, the great and good, foreign leaders, captains of industry and world bodies and a huge state sponsored propaganda campaign
This can only go one way....
Done lots of walks from Hadfield and Glossop onto the Peaks, but never been on the railway line, sadly.
Is she having a dig over gitmo?
Visa free access to the Aussies, and the Kiwis, is fine by me.
http://order-order.com/2016/09/04/244563/
Was this Mirror sting another Guido co-op? Even if not, sounds like Staines is dusting off the files from the filing cabinet.
It doesn't work well when there's a massive wealth discrepancy as well as a state support system in the richer country that others can claim from. EU freedom of movement would not have become half the problem it did without tax credits and housing benefit, especially in London.