So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
They haven't done that yet, but if you were in Turkey it would be a good time to look at that website and collect numbers/locations of embassies.
They've restricted access to certain websites. In effect they are trying to block off forums for people to share. Who did it though, MIT the local intelligence agency or the military.
At this time of year PB should be having about 150 comments a thread with OGH manfully trying to keep interest going with betting markets on which goats enter parliament in Bazorkistan elections and everyone propping their eyes open with matchsticks.
Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
They haven't done that yet, but if you were in Turkey it would be a good time to look at that website and collect numbers/locations of embassies.
They've restricted access to certain websites. In effect they are trying to block off forums for people to share. Who did it though, MIT the local intelligence agency or the military.
Still haven't heard if they have blocked PB or not...
So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
One slight issue with Boris's tweet - apparently Twitter is blocked in Turkey.
Ah right, I had forgotten that twitter was in the blocked list posted earlier.
Well you can bet Turkish TV won't be showing an announcement by Boris, so not really sure what else he can do immediately.
Yeah, tbd there's not much more he could do, bar influencing all media companies that are not blocked, to display the message of his tweet, which I'm sure his civil servants are doing.
So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
They haven't done that yet, but if you were in Turkey it would be a good time to look at that website and collect numbers/locations of embassies.
They've restricted access to certain websites. In effect they are trying to block off forums for people to share. Who did it though, MIT the local intelligence agency or the military.
Still haven't heard if they have blocked PB or not...
So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
One slight issue with Boris's tweet - apparently Twitter is blocked in Turkey.
Not easy to get to holidaymakers - mind you the FCO website just says
"We are aware of the current developments in Turkey. We are urgently seeking more information. Until the situation becomes clearer, we advise you to avoid public places and remain vigilant"
I smell a conspiracy - just yesterday Hunchman was banned, so today he can't expose the truth to us about the coup. Was Nice a distraction technique so that Hunchman would get exiled and hence wouldn't spill the beans on exactly who was behind this, and which lizard person will be ruling Turkey next?
The Queen is generally agreed to be head lizard, and her majesty's new foreign secretary is rather familiar with Turkey - worth a flutter on Betfair?
At this time of year PB should be having about 150 comments a thread with OGH manfully trying to keep interest going with betting markets on which goats enter parliament in Bazorkistan elections and everyone propping their eyes open with matchsticks.
Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
Personally I'm worried about next year. Last year there was the unexpectedly eventful Labour leadership race to get through the summer month threads, this year we have Brexit aftermath and apparently everyone just going nuts everywhere. Next year a black hole will probably form off the coast of the Isle of Mann, and that would only keep the news about Prime Minister Farron cancelling Brexit and revealing the whole thing was a ploy to destablise us so we'd beg to join the Euro, off the front pages for about a week.
Corbyn should be part way through his annual leadership contest by then.
I smell a conspiracy - just yesterday Hunchman was banned, so today he can't expose the truth to us about the coup. Was Nice a distraction technique so that Hunchman would get exiled and hence wouldn't spill the beans on exactly who was behind this, and which lizard person will be ruling Turkey next?
Is Hunchman banned?
Frankly, a man with his forecasting powers needs to be on the site so he can be mercilessly teased.
hunchman was banned as HE HIMSELF foretold. Entirely predictable based on the fourth Manichean wave coinciding with the 123 year Welchamann cycle.
It seems like the military has Istanbul, but not Ankara, what are the possibilities of a European Turkey and an Asian turkey being formed as the result of this?
Good. She never had the courtesy to reply to my letter about auto-enrolment.
What were you asking? Or saying?
I was pointing out that lots of tiny companies with just directors and no other employees would, by law, have to go through the idiotic charade of pretending to sign up with an auto-enrolment producer in full knowledge that on day one they were going to opt out again, and that exactly the same result could be achieved at much less expense to everyone involved if they could just sign a letter saying they wanted to opt out.
That's not really the case. Changes made to rules for director only firms. Have you used the tpr employer duties checker?
The question of how long Turkish coups last is probably best answered by looking at previous Turkish military takeovers - generally a couple of years of actual rule, but with a few more years of strong background influence before fading out again.
It's not like Turkey was only 5 years away from joining the EU - if that had been the case then a coup attempt would obviously knock the timetable right back. But a decade or two or more might have been a fair bet yesterday, and even fairly optimistically leaning more towards two. So a short sharp coup (which has been the norm in Turkey) and a redirection of the country's path (resetting democracy in a more secular pattern and with a much weaker role for the president to prevent a future strongman-figure emerging) could well fit in with this EU accession schedule, and it's entirely plausible it could bring it forward.
I'm happy to accept your observations about past coups, but I am inherently sceptical that a given coup will be short with a rapid return to democracy (for a given definition of "short" and "rapid"). Although I hope it does turn out that way.
Any lingering thoughts of Bremorse have been well and truly killed on the last 24 hours in Britain. The sooner we leave the better.
Huh? A terrorist attack by a non-EU citizen and a coup in a non-EU country make you glad we're leaving?
Yes, I don't want freedom of movement with a continent that allows in millions of refugees without even doing checks on them and Turkey (which is a hotbed of islamist terror activity) is holding a gun to the E.U's head demanding concession after concession. The E.U response to crisis after crisis has been constantly found wanting.
We will see the weak response to the undemocratic coup in Turkey in the following days by the E.U.
So what do you do if someone's switched off the internet....
One slight issue with Boris's tweet - apparently Twitter is blocked in Turkey.
Ah right, I had forgotten that twitter was in the blocked list posted earlier.
Well you can bet Turkish TV won't be showing an announcement by Boris, so not really sure what else he can do immediately.
Yeah, tbd there's not much more he could do, bar influencing all media companies that are not blocked, to display the message of his tweet, which I'm sure his civil servants are doing.
At this time of year PB should be having about 150 comments a thread with OGH manfully trying to keep interest going with betting markets on which goats enter parliament in Bazorkistan elections and everyone propping their eyes open with matchsticks.
Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
Personally I'm worried about next year. Last year there was the unexpectedly eventful Labour leadership race to get through the summer month threads, this year we have Brexit aftermath and apparently everyone just going nuts everywhere. Next year a black hole will probably form off the coast of the Isle of Mann, and that would only keep the news about Prime Minister Farron cancelling Brexit and revealing the whole thing was a ploy to destablise us so we'd beg to join the Euro, off the front pages for about a week.
Corbyn should be part way through his annual leadership contest by then.
As a Lib Dem, I have to ask myself whether the prospect of Farron as PM and no brexit is worth the trade off of a black hole in the Irish Sea. On balance, yes, yes it is.
At this time of year PB should be having about 150 comments a thread with OGH manfully trying to keep interest going with betting markets on which goats enter parliament in Bazorkistan elections and everyone propping their eyes open with matchsticks.
Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
Personally I'm worried about next year. Last year there was the unexpectedly eventful Labour leadership race to get through the summer month threads, this year we have Brexit aftermath and apparently everyone just going nuts everywhere. Next year a black hole will probably form off the coast of the Isle of Mann, and that would only keep the news about Prime Minister Farron cancelling Brexit and revealing the whole thing was a ploy to destablise us so we'd beg to join the Euro, off the front pages for about a week.
Corbyn should be part way through his annual leadership contest by then.
You seem to be ignoring Indyref2. Next summer will be a joy.
Apparently in Ankara there's Police forces with AKP supporters marching somewhere. All armed with automatic weapons. Do we know how much of the military is onboard?
That's not really the case. Changes made to rules for director only firms. Have you used the tpr employer duties checker?
Yep, as soon as you have two directors you have to go through the entire nonsense, with threats at every stage saying you're committing a criminal offence if you get the slightest detail of the charade wrong.
Can't help thinking all this news helps Trump even if it doesn't logically follow.
Do you know I was thinking that when this news came through. He will play the "look at the rest of the world, it is going to hell, Obama / Clinton been useless, what we need is a strong leader like me".
At this time of year PB should be having about 150 comments a thread with OGH manfully trying to keep interest going with betting markets on which goats enter parliament in Bazorkistan elections and everyone propping their eyes open with matchsticks.
Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
Personally I'm worried about next year. Last year there was the unexpectedly eventful Labour leadership race to get through the summer month threads, this year we have Brexit aftermath and apparently everyone just going nuts everywhere. Next year a black hole will probably form off the coast of the Isle of Mann, and that would only keep the news about Prime Minister Farron cancelling Brexit and revealing the whole thing was a ploy to destablise us so we'd beg to join the Euro, off the front pages for about a week.
Corbyn should be part way through his annual leadership contest by then.
You seem to be ignoring Indyref2. Next summer will be a joy.
Given my scenario involved Tim Farron somehow being PM and a Black Hole, I think we can assume in such a situation Scotland would have long since unilaterally declared independence and been blown to smithereens.
What do we think? Is this supported by the West and if so, why? ISIS? Blackmailing Europe over the migrant crisis? Might seem like a cunning move but is Erdogan unpopular? What if an increasingly Islamist Turkey population turned inextricably against the west.
NBC reporting that President Erdogan's asylum request has been rejected by the Germans, he is thought to be flying to London
Hopefully we tell him to fuck off as well.
If Germany have rejected him I can't see why we would accept him, surely there will have been communications between EU countries on the response to this?
To be honest those civilians heading up towards the military on the bridge can in no way be considered innocent bystanders in events. If they're shot, I have zero sympathy.
What do we think? Is this supported by the West and if so, why? ISIS? Blackmailing Europe over the migrant crisis? Might seem like a cunning move but is Erdogan unpopular? What if an increasingly Islamist Turkey population turned inextricably against the west.
The interests of France, America and Russia are aligned.
It is hard to think this is not backed in advanced by the West and Russia.
I smell a conspiracy - just yesterday Hunchman was banned, so today he can't expose the truth to us about the coup. Was Nice a distraction technique so that Hunchman would get exiled and hence wouldn't spill the beans on exactly who was behind this, and which lizard person will be ruling Turkey next?
Is Hunchman banned?
Frankly, a man with his forecasting powers needs to be on the site so he can be mercilessly teased.
hunchman was banned as HE HIMSELF foretold. Entirely predictable based on the fourth Manichean wave coinciding with the 123 year Welchamann cycle.
What do we think? Is this supported by the West and if so, why? ISIS? Blackmailing Europe over the migrant crisis? Might seem like a cunning move but is Erdogan unpopular? What if an increasingly Islamist Turkey population turned inextricably against the west.
It's probably backed by someone, either the West, Russia or a joint effort. In short: idfk.
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Not this summer. Must be costing OGH a fortune in bandwidth.
"We are aware of the current developments in Turkey. We are urgently seeking more information. Until the situation becomes clearer, we advise you to avoid public places and remain vigilant"
F-H: horrible picture of Johnson on FCO website https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/foreign-commonwealth-office
Link to main FCO statement.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-office-statement-on-situation-in-turkey
Anyone speak Turkish here ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36811357
Corbyn should be part way through his annual leadership contest by then.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160714102416-boris-johnson-foreign-minister-large-tease.jpg
We will see the weak response to the undemocratic coup in Turkey in the following days by the E.U.
Reuters — gunfire heard at Istanbul Airport.
Army group 'takes control of Turkey'
Turkish army 'takes over power'
Subtly different tones there. No significance, but curious difference.
I have to think it was more than "You broke it - you fix it."
As was said upthread, the coup needs to succeed or fail quickly.
Much more likely, yes.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/
It is hard to think this is not backed in advanced by the West and Russia.
Although it seems the UK is out of the loop.
https://twitter.com/jamessmat/status/754074444738531328
Edit - wow, the current president of Tunisia is 89.