In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
Eh? Do you want the bet or not?
Is how it works on PB, we lodge the money with Peter.
No idea who he is, don't bother if you don't want to put your hand in your pocket.
I want the bet, and I'll transfer the money in the morning.
Is there anything wrong with the following argument?
1) The Sun looks as though it will continue to back Leave, ever more explicitly and strongly 2) The Sun always backs the winner 3) Therefore Leave at 3\1 is a definite buy
?
The Times will back Remain and it tends to back the winner too
Interesting. ITV news saying that Remain came together... to attack Boris.
They can't win the arguments so they're going to go full ad hom for the remainder of the campaign. It's all they have now. Having said that, George will be wanting to spike Boris's guns so it's an absolute gift for him.
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
Eh? Do you want the bet or not?
Is how it works on PB, we lodge the money with Peter.
No idea who he is, don't bother if you don't want to put your hand in your pocket.
He's not trolling you, it's been a long standing custom on PB to lodge bets with PtP, who is the equivalent of the Iron Bank of Braavos.
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
Is there anything wrong with the following argument?
1) The Sun looks as though it will continue to back Leave, ever more explicitly and strongly 2) The Sun always backs the winner 3) Therefore Leave at 3\1 is a definite buy
?
The Times will back Remain and it tends to back the winner too
Tim Montgomerie @montie Undeniable after @AmberRudd_MP's constant attacks on @BorisJohnson that DowningSt playing personally. She wld only act with Osborne's say so
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
Eh? Do you want the bet or not?
Is how it works on PB, we lodge the money with Peter.
No idea who he is, don't bother if you don't want to put your hand in your pocket.
He's not trolling you, it's been a long standing custom on PB to lodge bets with PtP, who is the equivalent of the Iron Bank of Braavos.
Well I watched the debate, now I'm watching the BBC 10 o'clock news reporting it and there's no congruency whatever. Laura K thinks it was a bad tempered draw!
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
Eh? Do you want the bet or not?
Is how it works on PB, we lodge the money with Peter.
No idea who he is, don't bother if you don't want to put your hand in your pocket.
He's not trolling you, it's been a long standing custom on PB to lodge bets with PtP, who is the equivalent of the Iron Bank of Braavos.
I'm still owed money from a bet on here
I owe tim a pint, happy to pay up when he reappears !
Who did the dirty on you? useful knowledge on this site.
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
How is PtP? Not seen him on here for yonks.
I think he's busy with life at the moment.
I suspect we'll see him back for the back end of the White House Race.
What a relief they didn't have that nasty commentator who interrupts everyone always. Betting wise I feel marginally more inclined to leave which I have at 40% chance. But much more sure that Boris will not be the next leader. I would bet the next leader is more likely to be a woman than an old EtonIan.
I am very impressed with leave tonight who have, in my opinion, won this relatively easily. No idea if it will change the result but well done leave (from a remainer)
I didn't watch it (Well I did a little) but I am pleased you said that.
Knowing you've voted already by post upsets me (not you in particular but postal voting in general) because you vote before all the arguments have been heard.
Who thought it would be a good idea to get Rudd, Sturgeon and Eagle? BAD decision.
Amber Rudd = Sister of Roland Rudd (on BSE Board) and supporter of Osborne Sturgeon = To get another shouty aggressive woman to attack Boris Eagle = Corbyn playing games to eliminate a rival and undermine REMAIN?
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
Eh? Do you want the bet or not?
Is how it works on PB, we lodge the money with Peter.
No idea who he is, don't bother if you don't want to put your hand in your pocket.
Peter the Punter is a long time contributor (who I know personally) who we all trust to hold the money.
TSE will lodge his money with PtP. If you want a bet, you do the same. If you don't want a bet you don't.
Alternatively for others Peter just records the details of the bet.
Amber Rudd showing us once again that she is there because she is an Osborne stooge and not because she has any talent. Leadsom has 10x the talent in her little finger than Rudd does overall.
Christ. I always thought the BBC was biased. ITV news is a joke.
If Remain don't win this they are going to look like complete muppets.
It's not what I watched. ITV is usually quite good, I think this summary is very partial and pro Remain
Peston = Labour (Dad and mates) Allegra = ex Guardian leftie
Now why would they be partial?
I like Allegra, think she's been fair. Shame she's been relegated to the nonsense fact check segment. Peston and on the BBC Laura K have been less balanced.
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
How is PtP? Not seen him on here for yonks.
I think he's busy with life at the moment.
I suspect we'll see him back for the back end of the White House Race.
Is there anything wrong with the following argument?
1) The Sun looks as though it will continue to back Leave, ever more explicitly and strongly 2) The Sun always backs the winner 3) Therefore Leave at 3\1 is a definite buy
?
The Times will back Remain and it tends to back the winner too
The Times will back REMAIN??
It's my paper. My guess is that it is split down the middle, but slightly more of the senior staff are LEAVERS, and the boss is LEAVE
Right now it's maybe 60/40 LEAVE, but who knows how it will decide.
There is absolutely no certainty it will go for REMAIN
My feeling from reading The Times is that it will go for Leave. It seems more supportive of Leave arguments - to me, at any rate.
The one notable finding we do have is Boris being massively outrated by both Leadsom and Rudd.
Those do not look like the numbers for someone about to be chosen as PM.
Leadsom and Rudd were both very impressive in my view. They are obviously both long odds but the idea of one of them being PM doesn't seem ridiculous.
Is that not just new face syndrome? Though I thought both Leadsom and Stuart did very well, Boris played his part. That he didn't try to steal the show will play well with some people.
I am very impressed with leave tonight who have, in my opinion, won this relatively easily. No idea if it will change the result but well done leave (from a remainer)
I didn't watch it (Well I did a little) but I am pleased you said that.
Knowing you've voted already by post upsets me (not you in particular but postal voting in general) because you vote before all the arguments have been heard.
Still, there are plenty of votes still in play!
You don't need to worry about my vote. While I thought leave won tonight's debate the debate did not change my view to remain as I believe leave won tonight because remain were poor apart from Amber Rudd
In case you missed it, I'll take the £20 on the 14/1 on Dr Wollaston bet.
OK remind me again of the terms please
If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston becomes a minister by the end of 2016, you win £20 If Remain wins, and Sarah Wollaston does not become a minister by the end of 2016, I win £280
If Leave wins, bet void
Done, do you want my bank details?
Not yet, Tissue Price and Pulpstar want £25 each I think
OK send the money and you have the bet.
I'll lodge the money with Peter the Punter.
How is PtP? Not seen him on here for yonks.
I think he's busy with life at the moment.
I suspect we'll see him back for the back end of the White House Race.
Is there anything wrong with the following argument?
1) The Sun looks as though it will continue to back Leave, ever more explicitly and strongly 2) The Sun always backs the winner 3) Therefore Leave at 3\1 is a definite buy
?
The Times will back Remain and it tends to back the winner too
The Times will back REMAIN??
It's my paper. My guess is that it is split down the middle, but slightly more of the senior staff are LEAVERS, and the boss is LEAVE
Right now it's maybe 60/40 LEAVE, but who knows how it will decide.
There is absolutely no certainty it will go for REMAIN
My feeling from reading The Times is that it will go for Leave. It seems more supportive of Leave arguments - to me, at any rate.
It is the question of how much influence Finkelstein etc have. Mates of Osborne.
Is there anything wrong with the following argument?
1) The Sun looks as though it will continue to back Leave, ever more explicitly and strongly 2) The Sun always backs the winner 3) Therefore Leave at 3\1 is a definite buy
?
The Times will back Remain and it tends to back the winner too
The Times will back REMAIN??
It's my paper. My guess is that it is split down the middle, but slightly more of the senior staff are LEAVERS, and the boss is LEAVE
Right now it's maybe 60/40 LEAVE, but who knows how it will decide.
There is absolutely no certainty it will go for REMAIN
Just think if they back Leave then Matthew Parris might leave for the Guardian!
I am very impressed with leave tonight who have, in my opinion, won this relatively easily. No idea if it will change the result but well done leave (from a remainer)
Come over to the Dark Side Big_G, you won't regret it .
No I still am remain and have voted but I do believe in being fair when it is merited
Yes, your comments have been fair, it should be noted.
Comments
Not seen him on here for yonks.
Great performance by @angelaeagle on the #ITVEURef debate passionate and articulate argument exposing the myths and lies. #RemainINEU
£285 million pounds on an airport that can't open.
The German one? No.
Some EU nonsense? No.
It seems we're capable of screwing up all by ourselves...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36493860
Who did the dirty on you? useful knowledge on this site.
I suspect we'll see him back for the back end of the White House Race.
No 10 are going to be very worried this evening, methinks.
Clear admission of defeat.
And Boris is surprisingly crap isn't he? Not actually a very engaging debater or presenter. Weird.
"Boris looks like the ghost of the Honey Monster..."
and
"I'm not sure which I hate more, Nigel Farage's petty xenophobia - or the French"
Knowing you've voted already by post upsets me (not you in particular but postal voting in general) because you vote before all the arguments have been heard.
Still, there are plenty of votes still in play!
Sturgeon = To get another shouty aggressive woman to attack Boris
Eagle = Corbyn playing games to eliminate a rival and undermine REMAIN?
If Remain don't win this they are going to look like complete muppets.
This was a major debate, watched by millions, one of the most important events of the campaign.
And the odds are now identical (Remain 1.34) to where they were before the debate started.
On any objective basis the evidence is that it has had no discernable effect either way.
(And that's not just my betting position talking)
Nothing wrong with having fun.
Nobody is saying this will affect anything.
TSE will lodge his money with PtP. If you want a bet, you do the same. If you don't want a bet you don't.
Alternatively for others Peter just records the details of the bet.
Allegra = ex Guardian leftie
Now why would they be partial?
Those do not look like the numbers for someone about to be chosen as PM.
Leadsom and Rudd were both very impressive in my view. They are obviously both long odds but the idea of one of them being PM doesn't seem ridiculous.
Last night and this morning was crap.
What about you guys?
Especially if the Bangladeshi chef gets deported the next morning...
That's quite an achievement. That would be like London spending £20trillion on an airport.