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    Mr. Eagles, I agree that Facebook likes and Twitter RTs are of, at best, limited value.

    That said, comparing Leavers with those opposing same sex marriage doesn't exactly erode the perception that some Remainers have a superiority complex.

    Miss Cyclefree, blimey. I shall sacrifice a goat to Asclepius on your behalf. Hope you are fully mended soon.

    I don't have a superiority complex.

    I'm just superior in fact and person :lol:
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002

    Mr. Eagles, I agree that Facebook likes and Twitter RTs are of, at best, limited value.

    That said, comparing Leavers with those opposing same sex marriage doesn't exactly erode the perception that some Remainers have a superiority complex.

    Miss Cyclefree, blimey. I shall sacrifice a goat to Asclepius on your behalf. Hope you are fully mended soon.

    Google OTOH can be used as a genuine prediction/analysis tool.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    National - Zogby

    Clinton 47 .. Trump 40
    Clinton 46 .. Cruz 37
    Clinton 44 .. Kasich 41

    http://zogbyanalytics.com/news/742-zogby-analytics-news-wire-general-election-head-to-head-matchups
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    Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Harry Cole
    28 April has form for being a bad day for Labour. Gordon Brown called Mrs Duffy a bigot six years ago. Happy #EdBallsDay. Now #NotKenAgain
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    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    What did we learn about social media at the last election?

    What are you learning about party membership ? EU Ref will probably take it below 100,000.
    I've learned Margaret Thatcher saw a larger fall in membership numbers whilst she was leader (in absolute and in percentage terms)

    Parties used to be mass membership organisations, now they aren't.

    It's a trend we see, party membership declines a decent leader comes in, boosts membership and it declines whilst in government.
    So Labour is at it's highest membership level in years because they have a good leader !? I would hate to see what they consider a bad leader ?
    Say what you like about Corbyn, and I can say plenty, but no one can deny he has energised politics, particularly those who are his supporters.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    AndyJS said:

    Via OGH:

    https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/725689266488152064

    I walk past this particular synagogue every time I go to the gym.

    I thought we've already had a Jewish PM in the shape of Benjamin Disraeli.
    Disraeli does not really count as the family had converted to Christianity while he was a boy. Ed Miliband and Michael Howard are two very recent Jewish leaders of the Opposition who came close to Number Ten.
    Disraeli certainly counts. He was ethnically Jewish and was referred to by his contemporaries as such. See Bismarck at the Berlin Congress, for example.
    He was happy to refer to himself as Jewish:

    "Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon."
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,967

    David Cameron just popped up with a post in my Facebook saying this:

    "I'm delighted to join forces with Brendan Barber, former head of the TUC, to say Britain is stronger in Europe.

    Of course our opponents are struggling for expert backing."

    He then posts the two BSE propaganda economists for remain/leave posters Alastair did earlier.

    Wow.

    It's safe to say he hasn't got a good reaction. This has got 560 likes already:

    "I am a long time supporter of the Conservatives, but frankly David Cameron you are an embarassment to conservatism. It is simply astounding that any conservative PM is backing staying in EU. I wont be renewing my membership after this latest post."

    By my calculation, the Leave side (according to Yougov) is made up:-

    UKIP 44%,
    Conservative 32%,
    Labour 16%,
    Lib Dem 3%,
    Others 5%.

    Overall, centre-right voters break 3:1 for Brexit.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,800

    Indigo said:

    JohnO said:

    AndyJS said:
    So how comfortable do the Remain Conservatives feel being alongside that lot?

    Come on. Do something amazing. Be a hero: support a great, free, global future for you, your family and your country..

    Vote Leave.
    Having zero kippers to keep company only confirms the profound incontestable correctness of my choice. Thank you for the alert.
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    I guess we shouldn't be surprised that all you Cameroons are so comfortable in the company of so many Lib Dems and Labour voters, I mean you practically have the same policies :p
    We're just following the lead of the blessed Margaret Thatcher.

    She campaigned for Remain.

    You're on the same side as George Galloway.

    So did the likes of Tebbit, Lawson, Owen and Lamont in the 1970s. And I can guarantee Thatcher would not: I had the fortune to meet her twice and she was a Leaver years before she passed.

    PS. You're on the same side as Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness.
    The people who knew her well said she would be on the side of Remain.

    Her Majesty has met Martin McGuinness, if it is good enough for her, then it's good for me.
    We can't know how historical figures would have voted in this referendum. We're not even sure how current figures really feel. I suspect a lot of them are actually in two minds as to the choice. People may have a decided view, but I'm not sure that many would have a certain view.

    I still can't choose between the options personally.
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    IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited April 2016

    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    What did we learn about social media at the last election?

    What are you learning about party membership ? EU Ref will probably take it below 100,000.
    I've learned Margaret Thatcher saw a larger fall in membership numbers whilst she was leader (in absolute and in percentage terms)

    Parties used to be mass membership organisations, now they aren't.

    It's a trend we see, party membership declines a decent leader comes in, boosts membership and it declines whilst in government.
    So Labour is at it's highest membership level in years because they have a good leader !? I would hate to see what they consider a bad leader ?
    Say what you like about Corbyn, and I can say plenty, but no one can deny he has energised politics, particularly those who are his supporters.
    http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05125.pdf (p.8)

    Conservative membership has gone off a cliff since 2006, hard to discern the point where the "good" leader made it better :D
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,010
    Mr. Moses, good point. We should draft Miss Cyclefree for the new party [was a name settled upon in my absence?].

    Mr. Pulpstar, do you mean search trends?

    Mr. Eagles, you do remember I've actually met you? :p
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,446

    Mr. Eagles, I agree that Facebook likes and Twitter RTs are of, at best, limited value.

    That said, comparing Leavers with those opposing same sex marriage doesn't exactly erode the perception that some Remainers have a superiority complex.

    Miss Cyclefree, blimey. I shall sacrifice a goat to Asclepius on your behalf. Hope you are fully mended soon.

    I don't have a superiority complex.

    I'm just superior in fact and person :lol:
    "My name is George Nathaniel Curzon,
    I am a most superior person.
    My cheeks are pink, my hair is sleek,
    I dine at Blenheim twice a week."
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Harry Cole
    28 April has form for being a bad day for Labour. Gordon Brown called Mrs Duffy a bigot six years ago. Happy #EdBallsDay. Now #NotKenAgain

    I remember seeing the video of the Clunking Fist in the radio station putting his head in his hands as the recording was played back.

    I actually felt really sorry for him but it passed....... After about a millisecond.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    JackW said:

    National - Zogby

    Clinton 47 .. Trump 40
    Clinton 46 .. Cruz 37
    Clinton 44 .. Kasich 41

    http://zogbyanalytics.com/news/742-zogby-analytics-news-wire-general-election-head-to-head-matchups

    Kasich and Cruz both getting soundly thrashed now - Trump doing better than Cruz.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,446

    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    What did we learn about social media at the last election?

    What are you learning about party membership ? EU Ref will probably take it below 100,000.
    I've learned Margaret Thatcher saw a larger fall in membership numbers whilst she was leader (in absolute and in percentage terms)

    Parties used to be mass membership organisations, now they aren't.

    It's a trend we see, party membership declines a decent leader comes in, boosts membership and it declines whilst in government.
    So Labour is at it's highest membership level in years because they have a good leader !? I would hate to see what they consider a bad leader ?
    Say what you like about Corbyn, and I can say plenty, but no one can deny he has energised politics, particularly those who are his supporters.
    Islamist propaganda :lol:
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Indigo said:

    Indigo said:

    What did we learn about social media at the last election?

    What are you learning about party membership ? EU Ref will probably take it below 100,000.
    I've learned Margaret Thatcher saw a larger fall in membership numbers whilst she was leader (in absolute and in percentage terms)

    Parties used to be mass membership organisations, now they aren't.

    It's a trend we see, party membership declines a decent leader comes in, boosts membership and it declines whilst in government.
    So Labour is at it's highest membership level in years because they have a good leader !? I would hate to see what they consider a bad leader ?
    Say what you like about Corbyn, and I can say plenty, but no one can deny he has energised politics, particularly those who are his supporters.
    Turned up the volume?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,648

    Indigo said:

    JohnO said:

    AndyJS said:
    So how comfortable do the Remain Conservatives feel being alongside that lot?

    Come on. Do something amazing. Be a hero: support a great, free, global future for you, your family and your country..

    Vote Leave.
    Having zero kippers to keep company only confirms the profound incontestable correctness of my choice. Thank you for the alert.
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    I guess we shouldn't be surprised that all you Cameroons are so comfortable in the company of so many Lib Dems and Labour voters, I mean you practically have the same policies :p
    We're just following the lead of the blessed Margaret Thatcher.

    She campaigned for Remain.

    You're on the same side as George Galloway.

    So did the likes of Tebbit, Lawson, Owen and Lamont in the 1970s. And I can guarantee Thatcher would not: I had the fortune to meet her twice and she was a Leaver years before she passed.

    PS. You're on the same side as Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness.
    The people who knew her well said she would be on the side of Remain.

    Her Majesty has met Martin McGuinness, if it is good enough for her, then it's good for me.
    No offence, but I know people who actually "knew her well" far better than those who claimed to do so, which is why I met her twice.

    Vanilla me if you don't believe me.
    Are you saying Sir Charles Powell didn't know her very well?
    He was an establishment civil servant and her private secretary up until 1990 only.

    Speak to anyone who knew her well in her final years, they will all say the same thing: she was for Brexit.
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    David Cameron just popped up with a post in my Facebook saying this:

    "I'm delighted to join forces with Brendan Barber, former head of the TUC, to say Britain is stronger in Europe.

    Of course our opponents are struggling for expert backing."

    He then posts the two BSE propaganda economists for remain/leave posters Alastair did earlier.

    Wow.

    It's safe to say he hasn't got a good reaction. This has got 560 likes already:

    "I am a long time supporter of the Conservatives, but frankly David Cameron you are an embarassment to conservatism. It is simply astounding that any conservative PM is backing staying in EU. I wont be renewing my membership after this latest post."

    I saw on twitter the other day a screen grab of a similar post getting 2,000 plus likes.

    Except that was three years ago, and the topic was about same sex marriage.

    What did we learn about social media at the last election?
    Well if Cameron is prostituting himself to the Unions, it isn't going to look good to the bedrock Tories.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Michael Crowley of "Politico" looks at @LondonBob and the Kremlin's candidate for POTUS .... you'll never guess .... :smiley:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Cyclefree said:

    Well, what a to-do. I had a bad asthma attack yesterday and spent the day in a NY hospital yesterday being investigated for a possible lung clot. Scary stuff. But all OK now.

    And I wake up to a universe where Labour politicians are defending Hitler.......!

    Some of us did say that there might be problems with electing a Hamas-loving, anti-Semite-loving leader who thought ISIS had good points.

    So we can call this "The We Told You, You Fucking Fools" thread.

    Please do get well soon.

    Chances if you got medical treatment in NYC your doctor was Jewish or Muslim. How appropriate for today's discussions and developments.
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    Indigo said:

    JohnO said:

    AndyJS said:
    So how comfortable do the Remain Conservatives feel being alongside that lot?

    Come on. Do something amazing. Be a hero: support a great, free, global future for you, your family and your country..

    Vote Leave.
    Having zero kippers to keep company only confirms the profound incontestable correctness of my choice. Thank you for the alert.
    Like
    I guess we shouldn't be surprised that all you Cameroons are so comfortable in the company of so many Lib Dems and Labour voters, I mean you practically have the same policies :p
    We're just following the lead of the blessed Margaret Thatcher.

    She campaigned for Remain.

    You're on the same side as George Galloway.

    https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/725663322885001216
    like you in the scottish referendum.
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    BBC showing young man tying an Israel flag to Livingstone's front door. He opens the door wearing a labour shirt and removes it. This is a very serious moment for Corbyn's labour party
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