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  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN exit poll Texas

    GOP
    Cruz 39
    Trump 32.5
    Rubio 18.5
    Carson 4
    Kasich 3.5
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/tx/

    White voters:
    Cruz 40, Trump 34, Rubio 17

    Hispanic voters:
    Cruz 31, Trump 28, Rubio 27
    I'm quite amazed Hispanic voters are voting for Trump in such numbers.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Pulpstar said:

    Ahaha They're booing Marco at the Cruz campaign

    His father was a bartender.

    How many fucking times has he come out with that.

    Not many people know his mother was a maid.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sanders is winning more states than maybe expected buyt he's going to get swamped by GA delegates in particular.

    His relative success is symptomatic of Clinton's dislikeabilty tho. She isn't very enthusing. Trump could beat her, with a fair wind.
    Clinton is the Democratic Nixon, against Rubio she would probably lose, as Nixon would have lost to Bobby Kennedy. Against Trump she should scrape home as Nixon scraped home against Humphrey
    That's a fair analysis. She'll probably be a better president than Obama. Not hard, in foreign policy. At least.

    The melancholy truth is that any US president is now tasked with managing relative American decline. America will go from being 50% of global GDP in 1945 to around 10-14% in 2024. A huge drop. This collapse can no longer be disguised.
    Yes, she is certainly much tougher than Obama. America will go into relative decline and will have to accept being the second largest economy behind China (although still ahead on gdp per capita). Abroad it is also being challenged by Russia in projection of power
    This entire election seems emblematic of American decline. A second rate, do-nothing politician will become president on account of having ovaries and an ex-president for a husband, and because she will face a bonkers billionaire who inherited half his money and spent the rest on an awful pseudo-toupee.

    I mean, FFS. No wonder Putin is running rings around the West.

    It all feels very late Roman. Europe is the western Roman Empire, overrun by barbarians, America is Byzantium, still strong, but deeply strange and corrupt, and menaced by its own slow decay.
    There will be a relative decline but I would not go so far as to say it is ancient Rome and Constantinople as yet, more a levelling off of economic and political power
    But the West as a whole will still be far stronger than China or Russia.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN exit poll Texas

    GOP
    Cruz 39
    Trump 32.5
    Rubio 18.5
    Carson 4
    Kasich 3.5
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/tx/

    White voters:
    Cruz 40, Trump 34, Rubio 17

    Hispanic voters:
    Cruz 31, Trump 28, Rubio 27
    I'm quite amazed Hispanic voters are voting for Trump in such numbers.
    The only areas he is winning is on the Texas-Mexican border.
    Those are hispanic majority areas.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    54% in Vermont, Trump's lead down to 5%... Kasich could still take this.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    OK called for Cruz.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,944
    It looks like Trump was right to campaign so hard against Cruz going into Iowa. He's proving to be the only viable alternative candidate.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    I've laid off trump @ 3.9 - 4 over the last half hour.

    He hasn't sealed the deal tonight like I expected him to.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Rubio is drifting quite a lot now - I saw him at 4.8 at one point, he might be double that pretty soon.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    54% in Vermont, Trump's lead down to 5%... Kasich could still take this.

    That would be a disaster for Trump if Kasich wins.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sanders is winning more states than maybe expected buyt he's going to get swamped by GA delegates in particular.

    His relative success is symptomatic of Clinton's dislikeabilty tho. She isn't very enthusing. Trump could beat her, with a fair wind.
    Clinton is the Democratic Nixon, against Rubio she would probably lose, as Nixon would have lost to Bobby Kennedy. Against Trump she should scrape home as Nixon scraped home against Humphrey
    That's a fair analysis. She'll probably be a better president than Obama. Not hard, in foreign policy. At least.

    The melancholy truth is that any US president is now tasked with managing relative American decline. America will go from being 50% of global GDP in 1945 to around 10-14% in 2024. A huge drop. This collapse can no longer be disguised.
    Yes, she is certainly much tougher than Obama. America will go into relative decline and will have to accept being the second largest economy behind China (although still ahead on gdp per capita). Abroad it is also being challenged by Russia in projection of power
    This entire election seems emblematic of American decline. A second rate, do-nothing politician will become president on account of having ovaries and an ex-president for a husband, and because she will face a bonkers billionaire who inherited half his money and spent the rest on an awful pseudo-toupee.

    I mean, FFS. No wonder Putin is running rings around the West.

    It all feels very late Roman. Europe is the western Roman Empire, overrun by barbarians, America is Byzantium, still strong, but deeply strange and corrupt, and menaced by its own slow decay.
    There will be a relative decline but I would not go so far as to say it is ancient Rome and Constantinople as yet, more a levelling off of economic and political power
    Europe is the collapsing power = Rome after 400AD. The analogy is uncomfortably close.

    America is the inheritor of Rome, Byzantium, which actually lasted another 1000 years, thanks to military prowess, but was in relative decline all that time.
    Makes me a tiny bit sad being born when I was. Not experiencing Britain at it's zenith, but rather coming to terms with post-imperial reality as a relatively minor major power. Bah!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,631
    Morning all! Just woken up to Sky News trying desperately to deal with with a couple of Trump supporters in Alabama!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    Speedy said:

    54% in Vermont, Trump's lead down to 5%... Kasich could still take this.

    That would be a disaster for Trump if Kasich wins.
    It's already been called?
    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/vermont/
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Yeap Sanders projected to win Oklahoma.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Rubio failing to hit 30% anywhere apart from Virginia where he's on 32%.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    RobD said:

    Speedy said:

    54% in Vermont, Trump's lead down to 5%... Kasich could still take this.

    That would be a disaster for Trump if Kasich wins.
    It's already been called?
    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/vermont/
    And Dewey defeated Truman?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172

    RobD said:

    Speedy said:

    54% in Vermont, Trump's lead down to 5%... Kasich could still take this.

    That would be a disaster for Trump if Kasich wins.
    It's already been called?
    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/vermont/
    And Dewey defeated Truman?
    Surely since that has happened, it is now less likely to happen? :p
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    The Donald speaking soon.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    New thread!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sanders is winning more states than maybe expected buyt he's going to get swamped by GA delegates in particular.

    His relative success is symptomatic of Clinton's dislikeabilty tho. She isn't very enthusing. Trump could beat her, with a fair wind.
    Clinton is the Democratic Nixon, against Rubio she would probably lose, as Nixon would have lost to Bobby Kennedy. Against Trump she should scrape home as Nixon scraped home against Humphrey
    That's a fair analysis. She'll probably be a better president than Obama. Not hard, in foreign policy. At least.

    The melancholy truth is that any US president is now tasked with managing relative American decline. America will go from being 50% of global GDP in 1945 to around 10-14% in 2024. A huge drop. This collapse can no longer be disguised.
    Yes, she is certainly much tougher than Obama. America will go into relative decline and will have to accept being the second largest economy behind China (although still ahead on gdp per capita). Abroad it is also being challenged by Russia in projection of power
    This entire election seems emblematic of American decline. A second rate, do-nothing politician will become president on account of having ovaries and an ex-president for a husband, and because she will face a bonkers billionaire who inherited half his money and spent the rest on an awful pseudo-toupee.

    I mean, FFS. No wonder Putin is running rings around the West.

    It all feels very late Roman. Europe is the western Roman Empire, overrun by barbarians, America is Byzantium, still strong, but deeply strange and corrupt, and menaced by its own slow decay.
    There will be a relative decline but I would not go so far as to say it is ancient Rome and Constantinople as yet, more a levelling off of economic and political power
    Europe is the collapsing power = Rome after 400AD. The analogy is uncomfortably close.

    America is the inheritor of Rome, Byzantium, which actually lasted another 1000 years, thanks to military prowess, but was in relative decline all that time.
    Rome was an empire covering most of Europe overrun by fellow Europeans, mainly from Germany. Even now Muslims make up less than 10% of the European population. American may be in relative decline but is still rather stronger than Byzantium was at the time. China has always been a great power, just sometimes sleeping
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Pong said:

    I've laid off trump @ 3.9 - 4 over the last half hour.

    He hasn't sealed the deal tonight like I expected him to.

    Trump was expected to win 10 out of 11 states, losing only Texas.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sanders is winning more states than maybe expected buyt he's going to get swamped by GA delegates in particular.

    His relative success is symptomatic of Clinton's dislikeabilty tho. She isn't very enthusing. Trump could beat her, with a fair wind.
    Clinton is the Democratic Nixon, against Rubio she would probably lose, as Nixon would have lost to Bobby Kennedy. Against Trump she should scrape home as Nixon scraped home against Humphrey
    That's a fair analysis. She'll probably be a better president than Obama. Not hard, in foreign policy. At least.

    The melancholy truth is that any US president is now tasked with managing relative American decline. America will go from being 50% of global GDP in 1945 to around 10-14% in 2024. A huge drop. This collapse can no longer be disguised.
    Yes, she is certainly much tougher than Obama. America will go into relative decline and will have to accept being the second largest economy behind China (although still ahead on gdp per capita). Abroad it is also being challenged by Russia in projection of power
    This entire election seems emblematic of American decline. A second rate, do-nothing politician will become president on account of having ovaries and an ex-president for a husband, and because she will face a bonkers billionaire who inherited half his money and spent the rest on an awful pseudo-toupee.

    I mean, FFS. No wonder Putin is running rings around the West.

    It all feels very late Roman. Europe is the western Roman Empire, overrun by barbarians, America is Byzantium, still strong, but deeply strange and corrupt, and menaced by its own slow decay.
    There will be a relative decline but I would not go so far as to say it is ancient Rome and Constantinople as yet, more a levelling off of economic and political power
    But the West as a whole will still be far stronger than China or Russia.
    Probably yes
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    CNN exit poll Texas

    GOP
    Cruz 39
    Trump 32.5
    Rubio 18.5
    Carson 4
    Kasich 3.5
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/tx/

    White voters:
    Cruz 40, Trump 34, Rubio 17

    Hispanic voters:
    Cruz 31, Trump 28, Rubio 27
    I'm quite amazed Hispanic voters are voting for Trump in such numbers.
    These are Republican Hispanics, not typical
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    edited March 2016
    Off to bed now, big winners of the night Trump and Clinton but both Cruz and Sanders have won at least two states which is enough to keep them going for a few weeks. Rubio looks to have won nowhere as yet and is the big loser of the night and is surely bowing out when Trump beats him in Florida in a fortnight
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