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edited March 2016 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Clinton and Trump should be even hotter favourites tonight if the 11 Super Tuesday primaries go according to the polls

Texas is the one which will get the most focus because it is the home state of Ted Cruz. He has to win there to even have slim hopes of making it to the nomination.

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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    I do hope so.

    Though a good result for Cruz would be nice too.
  • Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Trump is already into 1.21. There's been a movement in the last 2 or 3 hours I think?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Yes, the first poll which shows him having a double digit lead in a straight match-up will cause their heads to explode.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump has found his Supreme Court judge:

    Media MattersVerified account ‏@mmfa 25m25 minutes ago
    Trump surrogate says Fox News judge and 9/11 truther Andrew Napolitano is likely Trump's top pick for SCOTUS: http://mm4a.org/1XYu4c0

    It could have been worse, he could have picked Judge Judy.
  • Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Trump was supposed to implode each month wasn't he?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Speedy said:

    Trump has found his Supreme Court judge:

    Media MattersVerified account ‏@mmfa 25m25 minutes ago
    Trump surrogate says Fox News judge and 9/11 truther Andrew Napolitano is likely Trump's top pick for SCOTUS: http://mm4a.org/1XYu4c0

    It could have been worse, he could have picked Judge Judy.

    As the source is Media Matters this can be dismissed out of hand as partisan nonsense.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.
  • Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Yes, the first poll which shows him having a double digit lead in a straight match-up will cause their heads to explode.
    I'm about to dip in properly into the next POTUS market, and don't want to repeat the early mistakes I made early on the GOP nomination market.

    (Thank Allah for the Iowans)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    Rubio's made a rod for his own back by saying he'll fight all the way to the convention. There's now no way he can save face and will be forced to face the humiliation of a drubbing in Florida.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    GeoffM said:

    Speedy said:

    Trump has found his Supreme Court judge:

    Media MattersVerified account ‏@mmfa 25m25 minutes ago
    Trump surrogate says Fox News judge and 9/11 truther Andrew Napolitano is likely Trump's top pick for SCOTUS: http://mm4a.org/1XYu4c0

    It could have been worse, he could have picked Judge Judy.

    As the source is Media Matters this can be dismissed out of hand as partisan nonsense.
    Napolitano would be an interesting choice though ;)
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    @rcs1000 from previous thread:

    No, I think there are enough catalysts already - the faulty design of the Euro without a consolidated debt market for the whole of the eurozone and the migrant crisis. The suggestion that people are going to lose confidence in the ability of negative interest rates to stimulate the economy certainly appeals to me, and closely related to that is confidence in government and namely confidence in sovereign debt.

    There are enough other places in Europe where disgust is running high eg Austria, Cyprus and Greece, so this revulsion with the EU is far from being a solely British (or as some in Brussels would like to think a narrow small Englander view) preoccupation.
  • Speedy said:

    Trump has found his Supreme Court judge:

    Media MattersVerified account ‏@mmfa 25m25 minutes ago
    Trump surrogate says Fox News judge and 9/11 truther Andrew Napolitano is likely Trump's top pick for SCOTUS: http://mm4a.org/1XYu4c0

    It could have been worse, he could have picked Judge Judy.

    Harriet Miers surely?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Yeap.
    And that's the worry on the Dem side, that they might be doing the same mistake.

    But the most important factor, at least for me, is the vested corporate interest in the media to keep Trump going all the way to the White House.

    In the past a republican nominee only had Fox News on his side, Trump has everyone except some parts of Fox News and maybe NBC.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    £11576 wanting to back HRC at 1.57.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    In the past a republican nominee only had Fox News on his side, Trump has everyone except some parts of Fox News and maybe NBC.

    He also has a contact book which includes most of Hollywood. If he can persuade some prominent people to back him, or at least stay neutral it would have a huge impact. Imagine if Oprah conspicuously declined to endorse Hillary after backing Obama last time.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    £11576 wanting to back HRC at 1.57.

    That will close the day Trump wins the nomination and never be so short again.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited March 2016
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think. You'll need betfair, the best you can get elsewhere is Shadsy @ 5/1 I think
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Agreed - by the first week in November, we'll be another 9 months into the downturn since the turning point at the beginning of October last year. I think that events will move in favour of the Trump narrative and against the establishment which Hillary personifies ...... but equally I wouldn't rule out some nasty tricks being played in order to stop Trump......so I think his current price is roughly correct.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    No.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    Yes, the first poll which shows him having a double digit lead in a straight match-up will cause their heads to explode.
    I'm about to dip in properly into the next POTUS market, and don't want to repeat the early mistakes I made early on the GOP nomination market.

    (Thank Allah for the Iowans)
    Trump has tightened for the nomination in the last few hours but not for the presidency. There's still a smidgeon at 3.8.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    Pulpstar said:

    £11576 wanting to back HRC at 1.57.

    That will close the day Trump wins the nomination and never be so short again.
    It still has 3% left to come in from Sanders' price !! The implied Dem price is 1.50 right now.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    I take it this is bet fair? There has been such a strong swing in the national polls that it must be a lot closer than it was.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    Although there have been 3 polls now that show the race in Texas getting too close to call, I think that Cruz will still win based on late deciders going against Trump as usual.
    It will be very surprising for me if Trump beats Cruz in Texas.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    lol

    I learned how to spell Massachusetts during my history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited March 2016
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    I take it this is bet fair? There has been such a strong swing in the national polls that it must be a lot closer than it was.
    Yes - I have just edited my post to make that clear.

    Personally I think Cruz will win, but 10/1 is more than fair for Trump. It have cashed out at +14.5 each way

    alas those are pounds, not thousands
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think. You'll need betfair, the best you can get elsewhere is Shadsy @ 5/1 I think
    Ted Cruz has an 87% chance according to Nate.

    Which means the 1.1 to lay is for sure a fair value punt.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Speedy said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    Although there have been 3 polls now that show the race in Texas getting too close to call, I think that Cruz will still win based on late deciders going against Trump as usual.
    It will be very surprising for me if Trump beats Cruz in Texas.
    Trump is on a roll. 3/1 would have been nearer the mark. I'm on.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    DavidL said:

    Speedy said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    Although there have been 3 polls now that show the race in Texas getting too close to call, I think that Cruz will still win based on late deciders going against Trump as usual.
    It will be very surprising for me if Trump beats Cruz in Texas.
    Trump is on a roll. 3/1 would have been nearer the mark. I'm on.
    Me to, a cheeky fiver to win a nifty fifty ;D

    Even if it doesn't win its one of those bets you just have to make :)
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Dominant victory for Cruz please
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Anyway I'm starting my preparations for a long night.

    I leave you with this for the next 2-3 hours:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/huckabee-hearts-trump#.ifXy4on0l
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    If ever I've seen a market for laying rather than backing it's the Next President market.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    DavidL said:

    Speedy said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    You can get 9/1 on Trump winning Texas.
    Really? Tempting.
    9/1 on straight back of Trump, or you can lay Cruz @ 1.1, which is ten to one, I think.
    Although there have been 3 polls now that show the race in Texas getting too close to call, I think that Cruz will still win based on late deciders going against Trump as usual.
    It will be very surprising for me if Trump beats Cruz in Texas.
    Trump is on a roll. 3/1 would have been nearer the mark. I'm on.
    Aargh. Someone got the £3 at 9.4 ahead of me :)
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,865
    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    How could anyone think such a thing? I learned about such fantastic movements as the seekers, ranters and Muggletonians during mine, you cannot tell me that I accrued no tangible benefit learning that.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    If ever I've seen a market for laying rather than backing it's the Next President market.

    Do you know of any tools that will dutch lay ?

    My red on "others" is errm...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Alistair said:

    Dominant victory for Cruz please

    I think a single digits victory for Cruz in Texas is the most probable outcome.
    It won't be dominant.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Speedy said:

    Alistair said:

    Dominant victory for Cruz please

    I think a single digits victory for Cruz in Texas is the most probable outcome.
    It won't be dominant.
    where's the fun in that?

    Also please to have started a mini-run on Trump in Texas...
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    kle4 said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    How could anyone think such a thing? I learned about such fantastic movements as the seekers, ranters and Muggletonians during mine, you cannot tell me that I accrued no tangible benefit learning that.

    We live among philistines sir!
  • LondonBobLondonBob Posts: 467
    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/03/analyst_says_donald_trump_is_the_gops_best_shot_mu.html

    NJ used to be a bellwether, Trump could make it one again. The demographics add up for it.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party

    Trump effect in Massachusetts.

    I notice Louis Farrakhan has praised Trump whilst condemning HRC. Does that cancel out the Duke endorsement?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Speedy said:

    Alistair said:

    Dominant victory for Cruz please

    I think a single digits victory for Cruz in Texas is the most probable outcome.
    It won't be dominant.
    I am +1 on Trump and +6.5 on Cruz so I'm holding out for dominant!
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    LondonBob said:

    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/03/analyst_says_donald_trump_is_the_gops_best_shot_mu.html

    NJ used to be a bellwether, Trump could make it one again. The demographics add up for it.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party

    Trump effect in Massachusetts.

    I notice Louis Farrakhan has praised Trump whilst condemning HRC. Does that cancel out the Duke endorsement?

    I doubt it.
    It's close to impossible for a republican to win N.J. in a presidential election.
    And it has an unpopular republican governor that will make it even more difficult.

    Until I see polling evidence I will laugh at such analysis as much as I laughed when I saw this in September:

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/644555290126491649
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    Nate Silver ‎@NateSilver538

    Buy: Fiorina, Rubio, Walker.
    Sell: Trump, Bush, Carson.http://53eig.ht/1QJ5tUR

    Fiorina must be wishing Trump didn't enter the race. If not for him, she would have been well placed to capture the anti-establishment mood. Other than her Washington friendly views on foreign policy, her platform was almost perfect for this contest.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267
    kle4 said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    How could anyone think such a thing? I learned about such fantastic movements as the seekers, ranters and Muggletonians during mine, you cannot tell me that I accrued no tangible benefit learning that.

    I went on to be a highly successful busboy after my history degree.
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Speedy said:

    LondonBob said:

    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/03/analyst_says_donald_trump_is_the_gops_best_shot_mu.html

    NJ used to be a bellwether, Trump could make it one again. The demographics add up for it.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party

    Trump effect in Massachusetts.

    I notice Louis Farrakhan has praised Trump whilst condemning HRC. Does that cancel out the Duke endorsement?

    I doubt it.
    It's close to impossible for a republican to win N.J. in a presidential election.
    And it has an unpopular republican governor that will make it even more difficult.

    Until I see polling evidence I will laugh at such analysis as much as I laughed when I saw this in September:

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/644555290126491649
    Nate Silver is great at analysing polls but he really shouldn't get involved in political analysis, not very good at it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,865

    kle4 said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    How could anyone think such a thing? I learned about such fantastic movements as the seekers, ranters and Muggletonians during mine, you cannot tell me that I accrued no tangible benefit learning that.

    I went on to be a highly successful busboy after my history degree.
    Put some time in, and one any history graduate could become a low level functionary somewhere though.

    And of course in historical terms we're all mostly doing pretty well :)
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016

    Speedy said:

    Nate Silver ‎@NateSilver538

    Buy: Fiorina, Rubio, Walker.
    Sell: Trump, Bush, Carson.http://53eig.ht/1QJ5tUR

    Fiorina must be wishing Trump didn't enter the race. If not for him, she would have been well placed to capture the anti-establishment mood. Other than her Washington friendly views on foreign policy, her platform was almost perfect for this contest.
    The reputation of HP printers is not that great, and she mismanaged HP so much she was fired as CEO.
    As for her policies the only thing I remember was her advocating shooting down Russian jets over Syria and other generic policies like regulation reform.

    She never had a chance, I rated her as a female but less successful version of Mitt Romney.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006

    Is it me, but are the reasons the pundits say Trump will lose to Clinton in November, are the same reasons he would never get the GOP nomination?

    It's you
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    How could anyone think such a thing? I learned about such fantastic movements as the seekers, ranters and Muggletonians during mine, you cannot tell me that I accrued no tangible benefit learning that.

    I went on to be a highly successful busboy after my history degree.
    Put some time in, and one any history graduate could become a low level functionary somewhere though.

    And of course in historical terms we're all mostly doing pretty well :)
    It got me on to my international marketing postgrad when I finally decided to get my act together, so I can't grumble.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    It looks like Trump is holding his press conference at the Mar-A-Lago Club in Palm Beach. He knows how to seduce the media.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    It looks like Trump is holding his press conference at the Mar-A-Lago Club in Palm Beach. He knows how to seduce the media.

    He's very confident.

    One conclusion I have come to - there is no such word as arrogance in a US dictionary.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Foxes leaving it very late...
  • Apologies if this question has been asked before, but can anyone recommend any good websites for watching the results come in in the early hours of the morning? I’m primarily interested in the actual numbers (votes, percentages, delegates) rather than analysis.

    Thanks in advance!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Speedy said:

    LondonBob said:

    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/03/analyst_says_donald_trump_is_the_gops_best_shot_mu.html

    NJ used to be a bellwether, Trump could make it one again. The demographics add up for it.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party

    Trump effect in Massachusetts.

    I notice Louis Farrakhan has praised Trump whilst condemning HRC. Does that cancel out the Duke endorsement?

    I doubt it.
    It's close to impossible for a republican to win N.J. in a presidential election.
    And it has an unpopular republican governor that will make it even more difficult.

    Until I see polling evidence I will laugh at such analysis as much as I laughed when I saw this in September:

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/644555290126491649
    Buy Walker, snigger.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    lol

    I learned how to spell Massachusetts during my history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    I did my history degree in New England, and I cant spell it without assistance.....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267
    notme said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    lol

    I learned how to spell Massachusetts during my history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    I did my history degree in New England, and I cant spell it without assistance.....
    I-t?

    (I'll get my coat)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249

    notme said:

    Wanderer said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    lol

    I learned how to spell Massachusetts during my history degree (to anyone who thinks there is no tangible benefit to doing one).
    I did my history degree in New England, and I cant spell it without assistance.....
    I-t?

    (I'll get my coat)
    LOL
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Lukaku scored :D Could do with him finishing top 3 in Prem scorers.
  • DavidL said:

    Foxes leaving it very late...

    Getting tight - squeaky bum time
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,865

    Apologies if this question has been asked before, but can anyone recommend any good websites for watching the results come in in the early hours of the morning? I’m primarily interested in the actual numbers (votes, percentages, delegates) rather than analysis.

    Thanks in advance!

    I second that request - could be a late night
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Rubio says he will fight every state in his pick up truck to stop that con man. The gloves are well and truly off.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,172
    kle4 said:

    Apologies if this question has been asked before, but can anyone recommend any good websites for watching the results come in in the early hours of the morning? I’m primarily interested in the actual numbers (votes, percentages, delegates) rather than analysis.

    Thanks in advance!

    I second that request - could be a late night
    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/

    If you wanted a simple interface

    Scratch that.. it doesn't seem to be working (clicking on either of the boxes did nothing).
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    kle4 said:

    Apologies if this question has been asked before, but can anyone recommend any good websites for watching the results come in in the early hours of the morning? I’m primarily interested in the actual numbers (votes, percentages, delegates) rather than analysis.

    Thanks in advance!

    I second that request - could be a late night
    The go-to sites thus far have been CNN's election centre and decision desk HQ, although I wonder how each stands up to multiple primaries at once (they use different data sets, which is interesting)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    HRC is working on a campaign "against bigotry"

    Clinton camp reportedly working on plan to defeat Trump.

    Sounds like a terrible strategy.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    If Trump wins Texas (and I think he will) the republican race is over before the establishment worked out who was best placed to stop him.

    On the Dem side Massachusetts is the key. If Hillary wins that as well as the south the argument for Sanders continuing to play gets weak.

    Congratulations on spelling Massachusetts properly.

    To be honest it was predictive text. I did briefly consider whether an easier to spell state could be equally crucial.
    These Indian names are wonderful: Mississippi; Shenandoah; Chicago Illinois; Dakota etc etc.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    I find Fox News a guilty pleasure. It is just hilarious and the fact they really don't like Trump makes it even funnier.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    DavidL said:

    Rubio says he will fight every state in his pick up truck to stop that con man. The gloves are well and truly off.

    Rubio's campaign strategy is based on him winning no states:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/top-rubio-advisor-preparing-donors-for-dismal-super-tuesday-220046#ixzz41gWnRHWi

    " Not everyone who attended left the meeting thinking the campaign had a workable plan to dethrone Trump as the party's expected nominee.
    "It was a presentation that defied reality," said one Rubio backer. "They said their convention strategy was not contingent on winning any states... Even if you go to the [second ballot] why would anyone say Marco Rubio is the guy to give it to?" "

    Trump is Einstein compared to his GOP competitors.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Pulpstar said:
    Given it has only had 14k views in over 2 months, I think we can say it hasn't been a particularly successful anthem....
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    Pulpstar said:

    HRC is working on a campaign "against bigotry"

    Clinton camp reportedly working on plan to defeat Trump.

    Cue lots of videos with Hillary being equivocal about race and sexual orientation in her best Arkansas accent.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    DavidL said:

    I find Fox News a guilty pleasure. It is just hilarious and the fact they really don't like Trump makes it even funnier.

    Who can argue against that.
    I'm off or else I will be really unprepared for the Super Tuesday AM marathon.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    DavidL said:

    I find Fox News a guilty pleasure. It is just hilarious and the fact they really don't like Trump makes it even funnier.

    Trump is certainly giving the Millwall media strategy a thorough testing...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942

    Pulpstar said:
    Given it has only had 14k views in over 2 months, I think we can say it hasn't been a particularly successful anthem....
    This one's had 5 million:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Pulpstar said:

    HRC is working on a campaign "against bigotry"

    Clinton camp reportedly working on plan to defeat Trump.

    Sounds like a terrible strategy.

    There was a democrat on R5 tonight and he was all but admitting that they really hadn't worked out how to deal with Trump yet. He was concerned about the way he was getting out votes that usually don't.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Exit polls in 6 minutes.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Christ.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Pulpstar said:

    Exit polls in 6 minutes.

    Really. The voting must have hours to go yet. Which station?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    DavidL said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Exit polls in 6 minutes.

    Really. The voting must have hours to go yet. Which station?
    CNN
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    Speedy said:

    DavidL said:

    Rubio says he will fight every state in his pick up truck to stop that con man. The gloves are well and truly off.

    Rubio's campaign strategy is based on him winning no states:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/top-rubio-advisor-preparing-donors-for-dismal-super-tuesday-220046#ixzz41gWnRHWi
    Rubio has an odd face that can look youthful from the front, but in profile looks already jowly and lined.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    Christ.

    Not running, too late to get on the ballot.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @mattfrei: Study shows that Trump had 64 times as much TV coverage in USA as nearest rivals. We the media made him but we may all get to keep him.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    DavidL said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Exit polls in 6 minutes.

    Really. The voting must have hours to go yet. Which station?
    CNN
    You mean how many Latinos had a sandwich with meat in it this morning exit polls?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,249
    Pulpstar said:

    DavidL said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Exit polls in 6 minutes.

    Really. The voting must have hours to go yet. Which station?
    CNN
    They just spin lines and give segments that don't mean much for hours. It is annoying.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    20,000 Democrats Switch Parties In Massachusetts – Officials Credit “Trump Phenomenon” http://disq.us/9acjap
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    AndyJS said:

    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.

    Imagine the Donald inviting Cameron/Merkel/Hollande to the Trump House.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    AndyJS said:

    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.

    You mean Corbyn...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    AndyJS said:

    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.

    Being joined by President Le Pen.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Big turnout in Tennessee.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,943
    Sean_F said:

    AndyJS said:

    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.

    Being joined by President Le Pen.
    I suspect the first President Le Pen will be Marechal
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Sean_F said:

    AndyJS said:

    Imagine Boris inviting Trump to Downing Street.

    Being joined by President Le Pen.
    And Caliph al-Baghdadi
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    @rcs1000 Still laying out Hillary ?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Big turnout in Texas
  • DeafblokeDeafbloke Posts: 70
    fpt Richard Nabavi:

    1. "OK, so we'd be in material breach of the agreement, because we'd no longer be an 'EC member state', and therefore we'd violate a provision essential to the treaty. See, for example, Article 126:

    The Agreement shall apply to the territories to which the Treaty establishing the European Economic Community is applied and under the conditions laid down in that Treaty , and to the territories of Iceland, the Principality of Liechtenstein and the Kingdom of Norway."

    To state this is a 'material breach' is absurd. Article 126 is really about defining the parts of e.g. France that are outside of Europe to which the agreement will apply. The clue is the word 'territories', and the intention is to use the EEC territories definition of them. What it does not do is re-define the Contracting Parties.

    2. "Presumably therefore, we'd be obliged to withdraw from the EEA treaty by invoking Article 127, in order to avoid being in material breach."

    We can not possibly be compelled to give the Notice under this provision. The recourse for Treaty breaches is set out in the Treaty, as anyone would expect.

    3. "What I think is clear is that the treaty is incredibly badly drafted,"

    I'd think very carefully before I presumed to describe an International Treaty as 'incredibly badly drafted'. Perhaps it just doesn't say what you want it to say.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Oh God its one of these prick tease exit polls.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Can you imagine the sort of redecoration job Trump would do if he wins keys to the White House....Gold plating everywhere...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Difficult to believe Rubio was still the favourite a few days ago despite having lost everywhere.
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