Re. Stephen Kinnock MP (to whom my congratulations, this is not aimed at his circumstances, I'm merely carrying the principle to its logical conclusion).
Are there any 'conflict of interest' regulations that deal with close personal relationships with foreign government officials?
Suppose one were in high office & taking despatch boxes home to where a foreign gov. official has free access?
The very end of that line would be quite beneficial - PM of one country married to PM of another should make for very good relations between the countries (as long as the personal relationship stayed OK).
Do you remember what happened when Preston North End sacked Darren Ferguson? Manchester United recalled the players they had loan there. Nothing personal, of course.
Greens have been hammered in Brighton and Hove, down 10 seats.
The council are a total clusterf##k down there....I have some friends who live there and more than likely voted Lucas back in, but say it is just a disaster zone.
I see the poster formally known as AudreyAnne in another guise was banned again on FPT.
Come on guys. She was almost pitch perfect on the predictions - this is getting silly.
It seems like several commenters just disappear without explanation, or without the ability to explain what's happened. It does not seem like the best way to moderate an online forum.
Have they sacked Andrew Marr yet? He was virtually in tears as the Scottish results came in. Embarrassing stuff.
BBC were total crap all night, I gave up like many others. SKY pretty good on a low budget!
(Apols I have no doubt this has all been discussed on here, but I was out of action most of Friday and wife ill in bed all day today so looking after 3 children!)
Emily Maitlis was ready for breaking down when the coverage started.
I had both on + PB and obviously PB was #1, but Sky was much better than BBC.
Yeah, she was not happy!
Emily came running with me and a few club mates a few weeks ago,she looked better on TV than in her running kit,but she was very professional especially with retakes of the filming. We all had a good morning out, and free lunch on her BBC expense account.
Leanne Wood and PC generally must be wondering what they've done wrong.
They see the SNP carrying all before them but in Wales they don't gain Ynys Monn from Labour and they don't gain Ceredigon from the LibDems.
Meanwhile the Conservatives make three Welsh gains and UKIP picks up disaffected LAbour supporters in the Valley and north-east Wales.
Plaid have never got their strategy right. Wood is personable and telegenic but she's also a republican. The SNP avoid "reasons not to vote SNP". They spent decades as Liberal Democrats and only shifted to Social Democracy in the last 10 years with the Liberal Democrats well entrenched and happy enough to capture the lefties.
Wales also has the problem of its natural wealth having run out many decades ago and its wealth filched since then. It's economically as weak as any third world toilet and only propped up on UK money.
Why did the tories up against LDs in Carshalton and Wallingotn (and also Southport) do so relatively badly?
Actually surprised the LDs held these 2 seats,. If the tory in C&W had done similarly to the tory performance in Twickenham (+7%) or even Kingston and Surbiton (+2.7%) , C&W would have gone blue. C&W tory lost >5% on 2010, Southport tory lost nearly 8% and lost by < 3 %
LDs night could easily have been even worse. Is Mark Senior about to explain?
Have they sacked Andrew Marr yet? He was virtually in tears as the Scottish results came in. Embarrassing stuff.
BBC were total crap all night, I gave up like many others. SKY pretty good on a low budget!
(Apols I have no doubt this has all been discussed on here, but I was out of action most of Friday and wife ill in bed all day today so looking after 3 children!)
Emily Maitlis was ready for breaking down when the coverage started.
I had both on + PB and obviously PB was #1, but Sky was much better than BBC.
Yeah, she was not happy!
Emily came running with me and a few club mates a few weeks ago,she looked better on TV than in her running kit,but she was very professional especially with retakes of the filming. We all had a good morning out, and free lunch on her BBC expense account.
Just shows that the UK needs to import a continental European electoral system.
Such a shame Farage would never support such a move.
Oh he wants such an immigrant European system?
Strange.
You are such a little European that you can only think in terms of that bloc. PR is used in many countries around the world including Commonwealth countries. And yes Farage supports the move to PR.
To be honest, I want to see more Scotland polling, Holyrood next year is the next major polling event/alongside the London Mayoral election.
It would be nice to see some markets. Lib Dem extinction market, Orkney and Zetland Constituencies, maybe opposition markets and Green range.
But I don't see why the bookies create early political markets - isn't that where all the killings happen? Don't really get that from a business point of view. I doubt all the deluded Kippers covered the losses on SLAB and Scottish Constituency bets.
Why did the tories up against LDs in Carshalton and Wallingotn (and also Southport) do so relatively badly?
Actually surprised the LDs held these 2 seats,. If the tory in C&W had done similarly to the tory performance in Twickenham (+7%) or even Kingston and Surbiton (+2.7%) , C&W would have gone blue. C&W tory lost >5% on 2010, Southport tory lost nearly 8% and lost by < 3 %
LDs night could easily have been even worse. Is Mark Senior about to explain?
I see the poster formally known as AudreyAnne in another guise was banned again on FPT.
Come on guys. She was almost pitch perfect on the predictions - this is getting silly.
It seems like several commenters just disappear without explanation, or without the ability to explain what's happened. It does not seem like the best way to moderate an online forum.
Like AveryLP. Surely we'll have a return of the Yellow Boxes and the glorious George Osborne (most popular heir-to-a-baronetcy in the realm) avatar.
Greens have been hammered in Brighton and Hove, down 10 seats.
The council are a total clusterf##k down there....I have some friends who live there and more than likely voted Lucas back in, but say it is just a disaster zone.
Yes, they've pretty much tried to ban cars from the city, with the result that it takes an hour to drive the last couple of miles on the A23 almost any time of day so people don't make the trip any more.. Also they had loads of issues with bin collections. Or more accurately a lack of bin collections.
Have they sacked Andrew Marr yet? He was virtually in tears as the Scottish results came in. Embarrassing stuff.
BBC were total crap all night, I gave up like many others. SKY pretty good on a low budget!
(Apols I have no doubt this has all been discussed on here, but I was out of action most of Friday and wife ill in bed all day today so looking after 3 children!)
Emily Maitlis was ready for breaking down when the coverage started.
I had both on + PB and obviously PB was #1, but Sky was much better than BBC.
Yeah, she was not happy!
Emily came running with me and a few club mates a few weeks ago,she looked better on TV than in her running kit,but she was very professional especially with retakes of the filming. We all had a good morning out, and free lunch on her BBC expense account.
Did that ever get broadcast?
Yes we were on Newsnight,about a month ago, she wanted an interview in Farron country, about 3 hours of filming condensed down to about 1 minute. She has undoubted stamina,doing an all nighter and still looking good, however she had a stupid whippet dog running with us,which in this part of the world is not good.
Have they sacked Andrew Marr yet? He was virtually in tears as the Scottish results came in. Embarrassing stuff.
BBC were total crap all night, I gave up like many others. SKY pretty good on a low budget!
(Apols I have no doubt this has all been discussed on here, but I was out of action most of Friday and wife ill in bed all day today so looking after 3 children!)
Emily Maitlis was ready for breaking down when the coverage started.
I had both on + PB and obviously PB was #1, but Sky was much better than BBC.
Yeah, she was not happy!
Emily came running with me and a few club mates a few weeks ago,she looked better on TV than in her running kit,but she was very professional especially with retakes of the filming. We all had a good morning out, and free lunch on her BBC expense account.
It's like a parallel world post 7th May re polling - after thousands of posts and hundreds of threads - we're laughing with gallows humour at them all now.
Dearie me, I can't recall a bigger upset in credibility for a sector as this.
Leanne Wood and PC generally must be wondering what they've done wrong.
They see the SNP carrying all before them but in Wales they don't gain Ynys Monn from Labour and they don't gain Ceredigon from the LibDems.
Meanwhile the Conservatives make three Welsh gains and UKIP picks up disaffected LAbour supporters in the Valley and north-east Wales.
Leanne Wood is a republican and to the left of Labour, so often she is fishing in the same pool. Ynys Mon Council is composed mainly of two sets of independents who are unpredictable and the council was put into administration by the Welsh Government.
The PC candidate for Ceredigion, had a mixed history and as student had likened English immigrants to Wales as similar to Nazis and refused to apologise for that remark. In the street he was totally unable to explain how he/PC would achieve their policies set out in his literature. PC knew that they were losing as they had canvassers out on election day.
The LD MP, Mark Williams, has been an extremely good constituency MP and has built up a strong incumbency. He is a very quiet man, a bit of a rebel and lives with his family in the constituency - Ceredigion is very conservative (small c) and likes the status quo and being fussed over by their MP>
It's like a parallel world post 7th May re polling - after thousands of posts and hundreds of threads - we're laughing with gallows humour at them all now.
Dearie me, I can't recall a bigger upset in credibility for a sector as this.
It's like a parallel world post 7th May re polling - after thousands of posts and hundreds of threads - we're laughing with gallows humour at them all now.
Dearie me, I can't recall a bigger upset in credibility for a sector as this.
1992?
That got the direction of travel right at least though I believe.
On a more serious note, Survation do seem to be trying really hard to create a reputation as the pollster than was secretly right.
That makes me doubt their credibility far more than the pollsters who immediately said 'we got it wrong and we'll look at why that was, and how we can put it right.' This new poll that Survation have come out with is an online poll -- so it's not even using the fancy new methodology.
We'll all be very suspicious of all the polls, but I think there's a good case for taking anything that comes out of Survation with especial scepticism.
I see the poster formally known as AudreyAnne in another guise was banned again on FPT.
Come on guys. She was almost pitch perfect on the predictions - this is getting silly.
Why on earth has she been banned again?
She promised last thread not to be rude again - and made some reasonable criticisms of Mike's approach in a measured way. Some of which I even agree with.
Mike: you can't just go on banning people for no reason. If you need assistance moderating, then I'm sure that lots of people will volunteer.
But the fact that Audreyanne got support from both @SeanT and @malcolmg suggests that you may just have, possibly, got this one wrong.
On a more serious note, Survation do seem to be trying really hard to create a reputation as the pollster than was secretly right.
That makes me doubt their credibility far more than the pollsters who immediately said 'we got it wrong and we'll look at why that was, and how we can put it right.' This new poll that Survation have come out with is an online poll -- so it's not even using the fancy new methodology.
We'll all be very suspicious of all the polls, but I think there's a good case for taking anything that comes out of Survation with especial scepticism.
Yeah, that whole blog post about how they were secretly right all along, but didn't want to publish it. Give me a break.
Blueberry In an EU referendum the Out campaign will be far more vocal and populist as Yes was, both will play the patriot card, In voters will be more silent as No voters were
Some months ago I privately advised Mike & Robert Smithson that I would, in the near future, for health reasons have to leave PB for an indeterminate period.
That time has come.
Should I recover I would hope to return in due course, alternatively an appropriate announcement will be placed on the site.
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Some months ago I privately advised Mike & Robert Smithson that I would, in the near future, for health reasons have to leave PB for an indeterminate period.
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I hope the old Jacobite has a relaxing period of convalescence, and that his ARSE be maintained in all its glory until he returns.
I know they don't want to be mean, but how are people like Blair praising Miliband's campaigning as brilliant whilst similarly trashing his message and policy focus?
"Ed was brilliant, simply brilliant...except for everything he said, which was wrong. But what a courageous and brilliant campaigner"
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You wouldn't have thought that if the LDs held one seat in London it would be Carshalton & Wallington. Also that Ceredigion now has one of the biggest majorities of any LD seat.
Financier I would agree whoever ends up Labour leader will want to have a good team behind him, Chuka interestingly was a member of political think tank Compass, he is not averse to political thought
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I don't think the Survation 2010 vote proportions are what happened in the election. I think there was 10%+ Lab -> Con switchers and 15% Lab -> UKIP. I imagine Labour actually had the 30% of 2010 Lib Dems that the polls reported.
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Very best wishes to you Jack, I have learnt a lot from you and I am truly grateful.
Mr. W, I'm sorry to hear that, but all things must come to an end*, and you did a damned sight better than the professionals. All hail the ARSE of JackW!
*Hopefully temporary, in this case.
Mr. Charles, if that's the case, I hope the ban can be temporary.
Why has the BBC news main item since lunchtime been "Sturgeon bursting with pride"?
1) Is this news?
2) Has nothing else happened in the world?
Amusing more than annoying but still
They're in denial. I'd quite like to see the BBC wound up, but actually it's more amusing to watch them pretend that they are politically neutral.
I imagine when the shock of the result finally wears off, they will be crapping themselves at the thought of what's about to happen to their budget.
How popular would a 50% cut in the telly tax be, it's one of the most regressive taxes out there?
Yep you were right - awful result for the BBC. The license fee may well be scrapped... it's exactly the sort of thing that middle class lefties love and actually punishes very tight up working class.
The best the BBC can hope for is for it to go up with inflation. Could be a forlorn hope though.
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Please accept my best wishes. [Edited to remove unintentional possibly offensive joke.]
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Amazing; Sky News says Labour hasn't got the exact procedure in place yet for their new leadership election rules. Haven't they had five years to do that?
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Come on guys. She was almost pitch perfect on the predictions - this is getting silly.
Such a shame Farage would never support such a move.
Oh he wants such an immigrant European system?
Strange.
One quirk of the GE, is that in Ceredigion none of the 6 candidates lost their deposit.
Without this - they'd have no idea bar anecdotes.
It shows that UKIP failed at strategy. Again. PR is the work of Satan.
Mr. Eagles, ah. I wonder if the London count will be as slack as last time.
Miss Plato, was a bit surprised by that.
At least we have finally, finally seen the last of posters repeatedly saying EICIPM
Wales also has the problem of its natural wealth having run out many decades ago and its wealth filched since then. It's economically as weak as any third world toilet and only propped up on UK money.
Why did the tories up against LDs in Carshalton and Wallingotn (and also Southport) do so relatively badly?
Actually surprised the LDs held these 2 seats,. If the tory in C&W had done similarly to the tory performance in Twickenham (+7%) or even Kingston and Surbiton (+2.7%) , C&W would have gone blue. C&W tory lost >5% on 2010, Southport tory lost nearly 8% and lost by < 3 %
LDs night could easily have been even worse. Is Mark Senior about to explain?
But I don't see why the bookies create early political markets - isn't that where all the killings happen? Don't really get that from a business point of view. I doubt all the deluded Kippers covered the losses on SLAB and Scottish Constituency bets.
New Labour with a vengeance
(having said that I had two cans on friday to keep me going)
Attack of the clones...
She has undoubted stamina,doing an all nighter and still looking good, however she had a stupid whippet dog running with us,which in this part of the world is not good.
1) Is this news?
2) Has nothing else happened in the world?
Amusing more than annoying but still
Only a sub sample but this has the SNP at 62 per cent. I shall repeat that 62 per cent!
Dearie me, I can't recall a bigger upset in credibility for a sector as this.
The PC candidate for Ceredigion, had a mixed history and as student had likened English immigrants to Wales as similar to Nazis and refused to apologise for that remark. In the street he was totally unable to explain how he/PC would achieve their policies set out in his literature. PC knew that they were losing as they had canvassers out on election day.
The LD MP, Mark Williams, has been an extremely good constituency MP and has built up a strong incumbency. He is a very quiet man, a bit of a rebel and lives with his family in the constituency - Ceredigion is very conservative (small c) and likes the status quo and being fussed over by their MP>
Then again, YouGov and Peter Kellner must be laughing all the way to the bank after getting the contract from The Sun
Go figure.
https://twitter.com/Ou_Prg/status/595472511694954496
How popular would a 50% cut in the telly tax be, it's one of the most regressive taxes out there?
That makes me doubt their credibility far more than the pollsters who immediately said 'we got it wrong and we'll look at why that was, and how we can put it right.' This new poll that Survation have come out with is an online poll -- so it's not even using the fancy new methodology.
We'll all be very suspicious of all the polls, but I think there's a good case for taking anything that comes out of Survation with especial scepticism.
SNP 60.2% : Lab 12.6% : Con 12.2% : LD 3.9% : UKIP 3.7% : Grn 1.6%
She promised last thread not to be rude again - and made some reasonable criticisms of Mike's approach in a measured way. Some of which I even agree with.
Mike: you can't just go on banning people for no reason. If you need assistance moderating, then I'm sure that lots of people will volunteer.
But the fact that Audreyanne got support from both @SeanT and @malcolmg suggests that you may just have, possibly, got this one wrong.
Tony Blair tells Labour: return to the centre ground to win again
Former PM says party has to be ‘for ambition and aspiration as well as compassion and care’
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/09/tony-blair-labour-return-centre-ground-general-election-defeat
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I covered 0-30% - there is MORE money possibly coming back ?!
"Ed was brilliant, simply brilliant...except for everything he said, which was wrong. But what a courageous and brilliant campaigner"
I think we should be told.
Hurry back.
*Hopefully temporary, in this case.
Mr. Charles, if that's the case, I hope the ban can be temporary.
The best the BBC can hope for is for it to go up with inflation. Could be a forlorn hope though.