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  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    RobD said:

    I don't see how the blues can end up with 300+ seats.. despite how much I may want them to.

    Why aren't you on a plane?

    Traitor!
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    fitalass said:

    Its looking like a bumper GE turnout.... So much for it being a boring GE campaign that failed to engage the voters.

    I think the indyref and the SNP are to blame/congratulate. Mdae politics, well, interesting to a whole swathe of people who otherwise wouldn't give a monkeys.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Just totted up the Election portfolio... £4.3k staked... would prob settle for £4k return!

    Havent backed Hornchurch and Upminster which I meant to.. if anyone can get on the 12/1 at Paddy I will take £25 for a bit of fun.. please let me know if possible... cant back all these far flung places and watch the home town go purple with no £££
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Charles said:

    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    Ghedebrav said:


    I was thinking more along the lines of supporting those who wish to work with childcare, as opposed to a free-for-all handout with no broader economic benefit.

    If they have to be subsidised in order to make work pay for them, then there is an argument that the country would be better off with them not working or doing a different job
    That was Thatcher's argument against the Nationalised Industries. I guess when it's Tory backers getting the money and sharing it with their Tory friends this stops being a problem.

    At least voting SNP, you know your representative (probably) can't be bought. You cannot say that about Labour or the Tories or the Liberals or the Kippers. LibLabConKip will do what it takes to keep their snouts in the trough.
    I don't support money being given to Tory backers or corruption.
    Do you vote Tory? If you do, you support it. It is the Tories raison d'etre.

    I do wonder, however, if it might fall foul of Illegal State Support at some point and be deemed illegal by the EU.
    I do vote Tory. And, no, it's not the Tories' raison d'etre.

    Reform that ye may preserve is the motto that underpins true Conservatism.

    Even if Macaulay was a Whig ;)
    Yes I understand that. But it doesn't work that way and has not for quite a considerable time. The Tory party today are as true to their roots as the Labour party is.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    He paid out on United winning the title in 1998. Titter.
  • glwglw Posts: 9,956
    Presumably that's a stunt because they know they are going to cane the punters for other bets.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    BREAKING NEWS: Fred is paying out early on the Conservatives winning the most seats in the #GeneralElection!
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    tlg86 said:

    He paid out on United winning the title in 1998. Titter.
    Well this changes things...
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    BREAKING NEWS: Fred is paying out early on the Conservatives winning the most seats in the #GeneralElection! https://youtu.be/maEowjWRrAM

    LOL!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    Bet Fred out PR stunting Paddy Power....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    Charles said:

    RobD said:

    I don't see how the blues can end up with 300+ seats.. despite how much I may want them to.

    Why aren't you on a plane?

    Traitor!
    And miss the election results and PB? Never!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    Chameleon said:

    tlg86 said:

    witter.com/Betfred/status/596404275967832066

    He paid out on United winning the title in 1998. Titter.
    Well this changes things...
    LAB plurality nailed on?
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Gutwrenching. Would they really dare to do that if they didn't have some inside info?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,929
    Dair said:

    Fenster said:

    Dair said:

    Fenster said:

    Just voted in Ystrad Mynach (Caerphilly). They let my dog in the voting booth.

    Word is it's been busy and a lot of young voters have been in. Which I think will be good for UKIP as the Kippers really seem to have captured the zeitgeist amongst young voters (probably misinformed, but at least they are involved); my Facebook page is full of Kipper v anti-Kipper fist-fights, among people who I've never seen involved in politics before.

    It's that replicated across the country the Kippers will do well.

    My vote counts for little here though. Safe Labour win.

    Young voters in Wales will be backing Plaid Cymru. And remember they're much more likely to speak Welsh.
    I don't think the youngsters vote Plaid. Plaid are the party of the Welsh speakers - round this area there aren't many Welsh speakers. Though Beci Newton, their local candidate, is one for the eye-candy fans.
    Maybe you're in the wrong demographic. But the younger generation in Wales have the highest percentage of Welsh language speakers.
    For basic level perhaps. I'm not sure about many young people speaking it fluently though. I've not seen any polls predicting a big Plaid surge. It's also incredibly stupid to think speaking Welsh equates with voting Plaid. My Grandparents and Aunt were staunch Tories and were fluent Welsh speakers. I, as a rebel, refused to learn much to my Nain's disappointment. Her favourite politician was Michael Heseltine.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    valleyboy said:

    I see Fenster just mentioned Ystrad Mynach. That reminds what someone in work said today. That Ukip might win the Rhondda. I rather doubt it but they have potential in the Valleys and it could be symbolic given the remarkable Labour heritage in the region.

    We expect UKIP to pick up a good sized protest vote, but they are not going to get anywhere near Labour in any of the valleys.

    Rhondda is the hardest, most macho place in Britain. That's why Chris Bryant is the perfect fit up those parts.

    I've played rugby up there numerous times. Believe me. Nails. When they feed their staff's they don't even take the food out of the tin.

  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Kjohnw

    'if cameron comes first in seats he needs to be quick off the mark in making a generous offer to all the partys, PR, FFA for Scotland, House of Lords reform, EV4EL, because if he doesn't Ed surely will http://t.co/282bOWot8w'

    Just offer the SNP Home Rule and be done with it.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Yeah, just a stunt. It's still 1.27 on betfair after all, not like there's some great certainty.

    Betfred are a joke of a book anyway. He talks about "smart money" - ridiculous, any account labelled sharp gets closed asap.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Danny565 said:

    Gutwrenching. Would they really dare to do that if they didn't have some inside info?

    The probably have barely taken a bet on it, its free publicity, take no notice
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    EPG said:

    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    calum said:

    Just as well this is election day or the MSM would have had a field day with this:

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6444611/Clot-red-handed-Labour-Jims-last-push-as-fan-pops-question-to-Nicola.html

    Murphy's researchers are clearly not on their game as the red hand is a significant logo for Unionism - see link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force

    Although, to be fair, the Red Hand goes back much further than that: it was one of the traditional symbols of Ulster, and was used by cousin Edward for the Ulster Volunteers (the good ones)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteers
    "Good ones"? If The first UVF and Carson had just gone with the direction of history Ireland would be richers, less bloody and the UK would be less tarnished. A United Irelandin 1922 would have been better for everyone.

    There are no "good guys".
    E Carson was the man most responsible for partition and the most significant threat to the armed authority of the British state in the twentieth century, far more threatening in practice than Gerry Adams or even the leaders of the Central Powers or the Axis. Ironic because as a Dubliner he hated the idea of partition, but the only thing he hated more was the idea of Catholics in charge of Ireland.
    Carson was not an anti-Catholic. He was brought up at Castle Ellen, a hot bed of liberalism and tolerance ;)

    The last thing he wanted was partition - he never thought it would happen but saw Ulster as a way to make Irish independence infeasible. And then James Craig did him over at the last minute.

    I'll admit, though, that it was quite ironic that the Solicitor General and a member of the Cabinet could raise his own militia, while continuing to serve in government (and ultimately to be given a State Funeral!)

    But as he wrote to my great grandmother at the time he never expected to find himself 'on the high road to treason and despair'.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,137
    Blimey, I'm feeling tense with an hour to go. Not as tense as my bank manager.
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    edited May 2015
    rullko said:

    Anorak said:

    I'd be bloody terrified, frankly.

    In my experience even a twosome can be rather fraught.
    With sufficient self-loathing you don't even need a second person present in order to have problems.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @LadPolitics: A 70-75% turnout is now just 2/1 http://t.co/9cVMAlxkvr http://t.co/Y6Gg9hBnmj
  • rullkorullko Posts: 161
    Anorak said:

    fitalass said:

    Its looking like a bumper GE turnout.... So much for it being a boring GE campaign that failed to engage the voters.

    I think the indyref and the SNP are to blame/congratulate. Mdae politics, well, interesting to a whole swathe of people who otherwise wouldn't give a monkeys.
    But what about all those "torn apart families"?
  • Why do the parties both with private polling on any sort of national scale? Why should such polls prove any more accurate than the large sample published polls or even as accurate as those?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    The fact that publicity shy Paddy Power haven't paid out early tells you everything (IE it is too close to call)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015
    isam said:

    Danny565 said:

    Gutwrenching. Would they really dare to do that if they didn't have some inside info?

    The probably have barely taken a bet on it, its free publicity, take no notice
    They claim in the video they have taken 6 times more money on this election than last...still doesn't mean they haven't got over angles covered with their own book and others.

    They are going to look like proper spanners if they are wrong...but remember this is just most seats, that could be 277/276...
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    #DisturbingReports really is giving Ruth Davidson a kicking.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    I can't take this nervousness. I think I may pass out when we get the result of the exit poll.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    Fenster said:

    Dair said:

    Fenster said:

    Just voted in Ystrad Mynach (Caerphilly). They let my dog in the voting booth.

    Word is it's been busy and a lot of young voters have been in. Which I think will be good for UKIP as the Kippers really seem to have captured the zeitgeist amongst young voters (probably misinformed, but at least they are involved); my Facebook page is full of Kipper v anti-Kipper fist-fights, among people who I've never seen involved in politics before.

    It's that replicated across the country the Kippers will do well.

    My vote counts for little here though. Safe Labour win.

    Young voters in Wales will be backing Plaid Cymru. And remember they're much more likely to speak Welsh.
    I don't think the youngsters vote Plaid. Plaid are the party of the Welsh speakers - round this area there aren't many Welsh speakers. Though Beci Newton, their local candidate, is one for the eye-candy fans.
    Maybe you're in the wrong demographic. But the younger generation in Wales have the highest percentage of Welsh language speakers.
    For basic level perhaps. I'm not sure about many young people speaking it fluently though. I've not seen any polls predicting a big Plaid surge. It's also incredibly stupid to think speaking Welsh equates with voting Plaid. My Grandparents and Aunt were staunch Tories and were fluent Welsh speakers. I, as a rebel, refused to learn much to my Nain's disappointment. Her favourite politician was Michael Heseltine.
    I think they are up 0.1 on SPIN but might be mis-remembering it as I'm only really paying attention to the SNP.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,477

    isam said:

    Danny565 said:

    Gutwrenching. Would they really dare to do that if they didn't have some inside info?

    The probably have barely taken a bet on it, its free publicity, take no notice
    They claim in the video they have taken 6 times more money on this election than last...still doesn't mean they haven't got over angles covered with their own book and others.
    Betfred barely feature in political betting, do they?

    I've had very few bets with them on this GE, not least because they don't want my business for some reason.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Sky News correspondent expects 65-70% turnout.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    New legislation means doors aren't shut at 10pm, if you're in the queue you will get to vote. Means the counts will be delayed even more...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,032
    My wife assures me the green candidate is very nice. I think she is winding me up.

    Anyway she says that there was a substantial queue in the Birkhill polling station. Sad to say it but many of my neighbours are pro SNP and very few are pro Labour. It is hardly a shocker but it is looking ominous for SLAB in Dundee West.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Tory source tells @tnewtondunn their private polling says 302 seats, he tells @NewsUK election party.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    Tory source tells @tnewtondunn their private polling says 302 seats, he tells @NewsUK election party.

    EICIPM?
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015

    Tory source tells @tnewtondunn their private polling says 302 seats, he tells @NewsUK election party.

    BigJohnOwls always with the breaking news.....

    May I make a polite suggestion as it gets crazy on here, might be worth people having a quick scan of the thread before posting a tweet etc, so we don't get the same tweet 87 times.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Paxman doing comedy on C4. Good script, but still just doesn't work for me.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Completely unsubstantiated report on twitter says Glasgow has seen some polling station at 70% by 8pm
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    Shadsy says Jim Murphy is now the outright favourite to hold his seat
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    Shadsy says Jim Murphy is now the outright favourite to hold his seat

    Propped up by baby-eating Tories? The horror.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,929
    I have to say I find it really bizarre to see all these countries that use electronic voting. As soon as the polls close you get the result. Weird. I hope it never happens here.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Polruan said:

    rullko said:

    Anorak said:

    I'd be bloody terrified, frankly.

    In my experience even a twosome can be rather fraught.
    With sufficient self-loathing you don't even need a second person present in order to have problems.
    LOL!!
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    We had five voting in our house today, three of whom are all first time voters. Two oldest lads came home last night to vote, they were at the polling booth at 7am before heading off again and had to queue for 10 minutes in our quiet wee patch of Aberdeenshire!
    DavidL said:

    My wife assures me the green candidate is very nice. I think she is winding me up.

    Anyway she says that there was a substantial queue in the Birkhill polling station. Sad to say it but many of my neighbours are pro SNP and very few are pro Labour. It is hardly a shocker but it is looking ominous for SLAB in Dundee West.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    I have to say I find it really bizarre to see all these countries that use electronic voting. As soon as the polls close you get the result. Weird. I hope it never happens here.

    I know. Absolutely no excitement. Much better with the results declaring throughout the night. And boo on the councils too cheap to count on the night.
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276

    Shadsy says Jim Murphy is now the outright favourite to hold his seat

    I always fancied him to do so, tactical tories will save him. Eastwood is that kind of place.

    In my opinion SLAB will do better than many think. Double figures wouldn't surprise me. LibDems on the other had will be wiped out.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Shadsy says Jim Murphy is now the outright favourite to hold his seat

    Remember that this is based mainly on Labour tellers getting a positive feeling from those they are tallying. But as we saw in the Guardian's video from Tom Clark;s seat (and saw in 2011) the parties facing the SNP surge get told lies by their former supporters.

    Of course in Murphy's case he does have a big and possibly stupid pool of Tories to pull votes from. But Labour were claiming they could keep a couple of Glasgow seats earlier in the day which is not going to happen.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Con most seats tightening a fraction - 1.24.

    Might there be any exit poll leakage by now - ie if exit poll was clear Lab win would we expect at least some movement on Betfair?
  • Betfair's Labour Most Seats has weakened back to 5.0 from 4.5 appreox one hour ago.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015
    Last data will be in to the top secret exit polling HQ....just 30 minutes before they release to the media and I would presume the leaking, I mean hinting, I mean speculation, begins.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,662
    Ave_it said:

    Ave it reminds you of his projection made on Tuesday:

    CON 303
    LAB 249
    LD 31
    SNP 43
    PC 4
    GRN 1
    UKIP 1
    DUP 10
    SF 5
    SDLP 2
    NI IND 1

    Can it happen?!

    Is it a dream?!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAiKC1FEc-A

    That would pretty much guarantee Coalition v2.0
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited May 2015
    So, predictions on the scale of the SLABargeddon?

    We could, potentially, have lots of Scottish MP's with tiny majorities if the SNP falls back a little & labour get their vote out - whether they're SLAB MP's or SNP MP's could be a coin toss.
  • JGCJGC Posts: 64

    Why do the parties both with private polling on any sort of national scale? Why should such polls prove any more accurate than the large sample published polls or even as accurate as those?
    so they can selectively leak the best bits from their own perspective?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Shadsy says Jim Murphy is now the outright favourite to hold his seat

    I always fancied him to do so, tactical tories will save him. Eastwood is that kind of place.

    In my opinion SLAB will do better than many think. Double figures wouldn't surprise me. LibDems on the other had will be wiped out.
    It will be funny if there is a clear pattern of second placed Tories losing votes to the third placed Lib Dems because of poor tactical voting.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015
    MikeL said:

    Con most seats tightening a fraction - 1.24.

    Might there be any exit poll leakage by now - ie if exit poll was clear Lab win would we expect at least some movement on Betfair?

    Not the official exit poll as the media don't get it until 9.45pm and I would presume given only 5 people get the data they won't even be hinting anything.

    There are other "unofficial" exit polls though which I guess could be leaking to the like of our friend compuoter2
  • JGCJGC Posts: 64
    keep an eye on betfair labout most seats number suddenly going out, seems suspiciously close to exit poll time
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    MikeL said:

    Con most seats tightening a fraction - 1.24.

    Might there be any exit poll leakage by now - ie if exit poll was clear Lab win would we expect at least some movement on Betfair?

    I like to think that the five polling experts are held in a secure room under armed guard in some nuclear bunker in central London. No leaking from that :D
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,803
    Laurus said:

    DanSmith said:

    In 2010 Tory private polling overestimated their share by 20-30 seats.

    I have zero trust CCHQ know their arsehole from their ear hole. Private polling showing 302 seats?? Lolz.
    Lol

    Tory activist told by Tory journo that a Tory "source" told him about Tory "polling" showing the Tories doing well.

    All sounds a bit.... Romneyish...
    Didn't Romney's 'supercomputer' break down on election day as well ?

    Other Tory 'private polling' predictions from yesteryear include 240 in 1997 and 200 in 2001.

    Well I suppose the trend is one of narrowing errors.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    rcs1000 said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave it reminds you of his projection made on Tuesday:

    CON 303
    LAB 249
    LD 31
    SNP 43
    PC 4
    GRN 1
    UKIP 1
    DUP 10
    SF 5
    SDLP 2
    NI IND 1

    Can it happen?!

    Is it a dream?!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAiKC1FEc-A

    That would pretty much guarantee Coalition v2.0
    Gets my vote.
  • rullkorullko Posts: 161
    Dair said:

    Of course in Murphy's case he does have a big and possibly stupid pool of Tories to pull votes from. But Labour were claiming they could keep a couple of Glasgow seats earlier in the day which is not going to happen.

    I thought they said "more than expected", which I took to mean more than a couple. SLAB saving two Glasgow seats (NE and...NW?) is probably about what's expected.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    JGC said:

    Why do the parties both with private polling on any sort of national scale? Why should such polls prove any more accurate than the large sample published polls or even as accurate as those?
    so they can selectively leak the best bits from their own perspective?
    They probably ask the VI question first, and then detailed questions about policies.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Just back from telling and I'm sun and wind burnt - what a day weather wise down here in Eastbourne. My ward polling station had a steady stream all day - 80% didn't know there were also three local council seats up for grabs out of about 600 voters I talked with.

    I didn't know until the other day - very poor campaigning on this one and I'm really surprised. Right after 10hrs of this I don't think I'll get the power of speech back again until next week!
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083

    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
    Presumably followed by note to self: find new girlfriend whose best mate isn't a 20 stone bloke recently out of HMP Durham.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Pong said:

    So, predictions on the scale of the SLABargeddon?

    We could, potentially, have lots of Scottish MP's with tiny majorities if the SNP falls back a little & labour get their vote out - whether they're SLAB MP's or SNP MP's could be a coin toss.

    I really doubt Labour have enough manpower to GTVO in more than half a dozen seats. And if two of those are Paisley and Ren South and Glasgow East, then those will be wasted efforts.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    Ghedebrav said:


    I was thinking more along the lines of supporting those who wish to work with childcare, as opposed to a free-for-all handout with no broader economic benefit.

    If they have to be subsidised in order to make work pay for them, then there is an argument that the country would be better off with them not working or doing a different job
    That was Thatcher's argument against the Nationalised Industries. I guess when it's Tory backers getting the money and sharing it with their Tory friends this stops being a problem.

    At least voting SNP, you know your representative (probably) can't be bought. You cannot say that about Labour or the Tories or the Liberals or the Kippers. LibLabConKip will do what it takes to keep their snouts in the trough.
    I don't support money being given to Tory backers or corruption.
    Do you vote Tory? If you do, you support it. It is the Tories raison d'etre.

    I do wonder, however, if it might fall foul of Illegal State Support at some point and be deemed illegal by the EU.
    I do vote Tory. And, no, it's not the Tories' raison d'etre.

    Reform that ye may preserve is the motto that underpins true Conservatism.

    Even if Macaulay was a Whig ;)
    Yes I understand that. But it doesn't work that way and has not for quite a considerable time. The Tory party today are as true to their roots as the Labour party is.
    You are muddling up the Thatcherites, who really are Liberals.

    The Tories roots are the Hartington Whigs and Peelites and they remain as strong as ever. The Tory Reform Committee, for example, (which led to the Tory Reform Group what TSE was talking about the other day) is one of their tendrils
  • JGCJGC Posts: 64
    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Con most seats tightening a fraction - 1.24.

    Might there be any exit poll leakage by now - ie if exit poll was clear Lab win would we expect at least some movement on Betfair?

    I like to think that the five polling experts are held in a secure room under armed guard in some nuclear bunker in central London. No leaking from that :D
    Thats true but see OGHs story from last time when he was part of broadcast team, they were told (& sworn to secrecy @ 21:15). There is a lot of money ar stake all it takes is the proverbial tea boy or girl to spot the numbers and tip the wink......
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Labour posters appear to be a bit less prominent on here than a few hours ago?!
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Dair said:

    Charles said:

    calum said:

    Just as well this is election day or the MSM would have had a field day with this:

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6444611/Clot-red-handed-Labour-Jims-last-push-as-fan-pops-question-to-Nicola.html

    Murphy's researchers are clearly not on their game as the red hand is a significant logo for Unionism - see link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force

    Although, to be fair, the Red Hand goes back much further than that: it was one of the traditional symbols of Ulster, and was used by cousin Edward for the Ulster Volunteers (the good ones)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteers
    "Good ones"? If The first UVF and Carson had just gone with the direction of history Ireland would be richers, less bloody and the UK would be less tarnished. A United Irelandin 1922 would have been better for everyone.

    There are no "good guys".
    Well you know what, we exist, we are still part of the UK and will be for a long long time to come, so hard sh1t.

  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,929
    rcs - how so? Could Clegg get another deal through his party? And what exactly would the Tories offer a Lib Dem rump that had lost half it's MPs and votes?
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Spin back out to 18
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015
    JGC said:

    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Con most seats tightening a fraction - 1.24.

    Might there be any exit poll leakage by now - ie if exit poll was clear Lab win would we expect at least some movement on Betfair?

    I like to think that the five polling experts are held in a secure room under armed guard in some nuclear bunker in central London. No leaking from that :D
    Thats true but see OGHs story from last time when he was part of broadcast team, they were told (& sworn to secrecy @ 21:15). There is a lot of money ar stake all it takes is the proverbial tea boy or girl to spot the numbers and tip the wink......
    I linked to an article down thread that stated this time they will only get the last data at 21:15, only 5 people will known and wont be telling any media until 21:45.

    We obviously have to believe this is the truth.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,927

    I have to say I find it really bizarre to see all these countries that use electronic voting. As soon as the polls close you get the result. Weird. I hope it never happens here.

    I am still amazed though that you can still just saunter into a polling station in this country, give your name and address, and make a vote. im surprised we haven't introduced voter ID requirements.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Polruan said:

    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
    Presumably followed by note to self: find new girlfriend whose best mate isn't a 20 stone bloke recently out of HMP Durham.
    Girlfriend had to go, not the most virtuous of girls.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Ave_it said:

    Labour posters appear to be a bit less prominent on here than a few hours ago?!

    Too ecstatic I think
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    I would suggest the virtual silence, other than Loud Howard i.e. TND, nobody does really have a good idea what the state of play is / it is too close to call.
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Made me laugh:

    Felicity Morse ‏@FelicityMorse 16m16 minutes ago
    Omg I'm so excited and jittery I feel like putting a carrot and a mince pie out for the Prime Minister or something #electionnight #GE2015
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,142
    Plato said:

    Just back from telling and I'm sun and wind burnt - what a day weather wise down here in Eastbourne. My ward polling station had a steady stream all day - 80% didn't know there were also three local council seats up for grabs out of about 600 voters I talked with.

    I didn't know until the other day - very poor campaigning on this one and I'm really surprised. Right after 10hrs of this I don't think I'll get the power of speech back again until next week!

    Well done! 10 hours in one place? That deserve a medal! Think I've clocked up about 5.5 hours today; my tan will be better than Ed's foundation by tomorrow!

    Wishing I had taken a tactical nap now - but just want to pop back to local polling statute on at 10 to see if there is a queue....
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Website appears to be holding up better than in 2010!

    Viva mike/rcs!

    Although last time we had an IRRRRRC unmoderated channel in which there was unlimited swearing!

    Of course we don't like that sort of thing now! :lol:
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083

    Polruan said:

    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
    Presumably followed by note to self: find new girlfriend whose best mate isn't a 20 stone bloke recently out of HMP Durham.
    Girlfriend had to go, not the most virtuous of girls.
    You say that like it's a bad thing :neutral:
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Outside count centre. My excitement at fever pitch. I can only imagine how I'd be in a non safe seat. And now iPad away
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited May 2015

    I have to say I find it really bizarre to see all these countries that use electronic voting. As soon as the polls close you get the result. Weird. I hope it never happens here.

    I am still amazed though that you can still just saunter into a polling station in this country, give your name and address, and make a vote. im surprised we haven't introduced voter ID requirements.
    Seems totally bonkers to me. People have given reasons why it isn't fair, suppresses people ability to vote...but you can't open a bank account without id, can't get on a plane without id, basically you can't do diddly without ID these days...well other than vote.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    Ave_it said:

    Website appears to be holding up better than in 2010!

    Viva mike/rcs!

    Although last time we had an IRRRRRC unmoderated channel in which there was unlimited swearing!

    Of course we don't like that sort of thing now! :lol:

    Were there hordes of burley commentators?



    *banned*
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    edited May 2015
    Some people believing Tory spin re seats?

    287 + Lib Dems 25 + DUP 8 = 320. How much will the Tories pay Farage, Carswell and Reckless?

    I think Lib Dems WOULD go into coalition with UKIP and DUP on those figures - can't see they could withstand the opprobrium of staying neutral or joining with Labour in a coalition of the losers.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,927

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69

    Poor Lib Dems. Better cancel the taxi.
  • paulyorkpaulyork Posts: 50
    Things beginning to buzz here :)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69

    Poor Lib Dems. Better cancel the taxi.
    Oops I meant

    Con 460, LDs 35, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Polruan said:

    Polruan said:

    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
    Presumably followed by note to self: find new girlfriend whose best mate isn't a 20 stone bloke recently out of HMP Durham.
    Girlfriend had to go, not the most virtuous of girls.
    You say that like it's a bad thing :neutral:
    Haha, was a great thing for a while, particularly as she was a proper stunner! Not to be trusted though and definitely not long term material.

    In the end I went for the Micky Flanagan 'she does make a nice sandwich' type and have lived happily ever after.
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Right coming back on here after staying off all evening cos speculations pointless.

    Looking at the markets although tories have drifted out a bit their still 4 times better than Labour which suggests strongly to me that unless theres no leak at all [which is totally possible] were heading for a hung parliament probably with tories largest party.

    but thats just based on the idea that every things not watertight. If it is then 10pm could change everything.
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    weejonnie said:

    Some people believing Tory spin re seats?

    Why spin now?
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    I have to say I find it really bizarre to see all these countries that use electronic voting. As soon as the polls close you get the result. Weird. I hope it never happens here.

    I am still amazed though that you can still just saunter into a polling station in this country, give your name and address, and make a vote. im surprised we haven't introduced voter ID requirements.
    Seems totally bonkers to me. People have given reasons why it isn't fair, suppresses people ability to vote...but you can't open a bank account without id, can't get on a plane without id, basically you can't do diddly without ID these days...well other than vote.
    Seems quaint doesn't it?
    Faintly ridiculous and totally British.

    Long may it continue.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69

    Poor Lib Dems. Better cancel the taxi.
    Oops I meant

    Con 460, LDs 35, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69
    Make it more believable with Speaker 10.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69


    I think you're a bit low on the Speaker's seats.

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Polruan said:

    Polruan said:

    Anorak said:

    RobD said:

    What about at the same time....?



    I'll get my coat..
    Yes, a foursome, every man's fantasy, a chance to disappoint four women at once.
    That's a fivesome.

    In a foursome you just feel burning shame in front of three women. Or two women and another man. When there's only one women it ceases being a foursome and becomes a gang bang. Well, that's what my wife told me anyway.
    Many moons ago when I was young and fit I did the threesome thing with my then girlfriend and her mate, never worked so hard in my life. Never again.
    Presumably followed by note to self: find new girlfriend whose best mate isn't a 20 stone bloke recently out of HMP Durham.
    Girlfriend had to go, not the most virtuous of girls.
    You say that like it's a bad thing :neutral:
    There was a long list of people she was being unvirtuous with, I'd imagine.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69


    I think you're a bit low on the Speaker's seats.

    :D
  • JGCJGC Posts: 64
    definite slight movement on the best seats market, it might simply be random or triggered by the tory private poll story but there must also be increasing numbers of folk in the know with the real exit poll
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    30 mins to go.
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    Beginning to think that if the Tories are confident then it might spell bad night for the Libdems (under 20 or even 15) those SW polls might be right...

    Voted this evening in a strong SNP part of Perth. Turnout apparently about normal for a GE according to those in the polling station.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,929
    What was the final poll average? It was quite remarkable to see the convergence in the polls over the last day or two? Could they all really be collectively wrong?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981

    Someone said earlier, I could tweet a made up exit poll figure around this time, and most of the world would believe it.

    So I'm going for Con 495, SNP 59, Irish 18, PC 3, UKIP 2, Others 3, Speaker 1, Lab 69


    I think you're a bit low on the Speaker's seats.

    A high chair?
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