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  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited April 2015
    Clegg just plunged on the SunWorm. Because of his attack on Ed, or because people were reminded of tuition fees?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    DavidL said:

    I thought this Green person was supposed to be an incompetent nutter. She is showing up up Ed big time.

    Cameron good without being brilliant. Just can't get over how good Bennett is.

    Eh? Nobody has addressed her once, she is just giving position statements not interacting, it's odd
  • Wow Nick Clegg has had his shredded wheat.

    he just went lower than Ed and Nigel ??!!!
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Ms Plaid reminds me of a breakfast TV host. Does she always come across like this?
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    That's no way to talk about Nick Clegg :smiley:

    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.

  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    Is Dave there? Hello?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    edited April 2015
    Freggles said:

    DavidL said:

    I thought this Green person was supposed to be an incompetent nutter. She is showing up up Ed big time.

    Cameron good without being brilliant. Just can't get over how good Bennett is.

    Eh? Nobody has addressed her once, she is just giving position statements not interacting, it's odd
    She is useless and irrelevant. In fact, it could be good for Labour which might surprise the Tories.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    Sturgeon mincing Ed
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    About time someone says the truth about Labour hypocrites on tuition fees! Never thought I'd say this but well done Sturgeon.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486

    Freggles said:

    Deflected onto Cam who gets laughed at

    ????
    Ed pointed out Cameron wanted less bank regulation and that he wouldnt take any lectures from him, got a clap and a laugh
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Clegg takes the man not the ball, he just humiliated Ed
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Where's Eck? Why has Salmond sent his deputy tonight?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2015

    MP_SE said:

    OMG. Nick Clegg went in hard.

    what happened?
    Ed attacked Clegg on tuition fees, Clegg shot back with the financial crisis and Ed counterattacked with a Clegg quote aboutClegg's position at the time of the financial crisis.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    The leaders all come close in the poll for the first half, with 19% to 24%. But what matters is how many people think the leader won compared to their polling support. 24% liking Farage is far above the 14-15% they average in the polls. Worrying. EU immigration is just a killer for us. We really need to try to renegotiate more than just benefits with Brussels.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,032
    Nicola not doing for Scotland what the lovely Welsh voice is doing for Wales. She Is debating not focussing on her own audience.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    MP_SE said:

    OMG. Nick Clegg went in hard.

    what happened?
    He demanded Ed M apologise for trashing the economy.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited April 2015

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Nick - you are a disaster
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    tlg86 said:

    Farage good on education.

    Yes. It's a big thing for me. The Tories used to love grammar schools but now they're too embarrassed to support them.
    I went to one (being of Kent), and have just finished a PhD. Doubt I would have accomplished it without the good work of the grammar.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,655
    It is incredible to think that Farage and Clegg are nearly the same age,
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,393
    Roger said:

    "My 11 year old son is enjoying the debate but is not sure who is winning."

    It's hard to say but they've definitely got breasts

    All hominids do, male, female or in between, so that;s a pretty safe statement.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Labour, boom boom!

    I do fear we'll have a full day and perhaps more of tedious media analysis. Huzzah for Cameron buggering up the three planned debates, even if it was entirely down to self-interest.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited April 2015
    Plato said:

    Ms Plaid reminds me of a breakfast TV host. Does she always come across like this?

    I think she looks like a less attractive version of Katy Perry.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Pulpstar said:

    Just matched 20s on Dave - seems a bit long..

    Dave's odds are bouncing about all over the place.
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage sweeps board on housing.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Danny565 said:

    Clegg just plunged on the SunWorm. Because of his attack on Ed, or because people were reminded of tuition fees?

    Remember 5 minute delay on Sun Worm. Nicola basically finished him and the Lib Dems hopes.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Personally I'm just grateful to Ed Miliband for wearing a silver tie.

    WHAT A RICK THAT WAS !
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    The Ed Sun Worm goes super negative.

  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to ring back secondary moderns.

    I got a shed load of As and A*s at a comp and could have done just as well at a secondary modern.

    We need grammar schools to nurture talent from a young age, something which comps do not do at all well.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Roger said:

    "My 11 year old son is enjoying the debate but is not sure who is winning."

    It's hard to say but they've definitely got breasts

    Farage has man boobs ?!?

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Also on Farage vs Clegg at 2-1 ;)
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    rcs1000 said:

    It is incredible to think that Farage and Clegg are nearly the same age,

    That's nuts
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,655

    Clegg takes the man not the ball, he just humiliated Ed

    There are two moments that stand out to me in this debate: the Farage HIV stats, and the Clegg take-down of Miliband.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Sturgeon's performance suggests the SNP are going to do as well as the polls and betting has suggested.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,393
    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Roger said:

    "My 11 year old son is enjoying the debate but is not sure who is winning."

    It's hard to say but they've definitely got breasts

    To be fair they are all middle-aged.

    Just had a thought. Farage is the oldest at 50 (51 tomorrow). Wood the youngest at 43. Not much variation in age.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,655
    I think the Sun Farage worm is broken...
  • Dair said:

    Dair said:

    Nicola gets the only applause from a statement from an audience asked not to. Wow.

    Everyone has received some applause.
    The audience are told not to applaud. There's been a few laughs and claps but that's the only one on an opening statement.
    I shudder to think what Sturgeon would have to say for you to think she's got something wrong.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,949
    SLAB are going to get slaughtered by an SNP led by Sturgeon, aren't they?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2015
    Miliband is going into the details makes people think that he knows the issue, good answer so far.
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage looks ancient due to fags etc.
  • what time do they start wrapping up?
  • SLAB are going to get slaughtered by an SNP led by Sturgeon, aren't they?

    Like a Dockside Hooker when 10 fleets are in port.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    Heckling!
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Oooooh!
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Audience intervention! This is crazy!
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    edited April 2015
    Cameron wanders into PR bullshit mode
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    Who has the bet on someone being kicked out?
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Protestor..!
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Oh Cameron hijacked by lady in the audience.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    Woo Heckling!
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Anyone offering to build 000's of houses is talking bollocks. There is such a lack of supply of cement and bricks that it's an impossibility.
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    Audience interjection handled with aplomb by the PM.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Dave isn't getting stuck in live some of the others are. He is sitting back.

    O wow 7/1 for a heckler.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    yay....protester!
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Pretty sure a heckler was one of the specialist bets offered on this debate.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,302
    Cameron handled that well.
  • tlg86 said:

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to ring back secondary moderns.

    I got a shed load of As and A*s at a comp and could have done just as well at a secondary modern.

    We need grammar schools to nurture talent from a young age, something which comps do not do at all well.
    Yep, and a comp is very different from a Secondary Modern School.

    Having been to a Grammar school and seen those at the Modern having much less opportunity it scares me that people think that this is a way to increase social mobility.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I really don't like her - but she's coming across well this evening. I'd be very worried if I were a SLABer

    SLAB are going to get slaughtered by an SNP led by Sturgeon, aren't they?

  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Cameron has hardly spoken in the last 10 minutes and he just had his opportunity thrown away
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,149

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?

    I went to Grammar School.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    perdix said:

    The headlines "boos & cheers" on the Telegraph site shows the debate to be essentially a circus.

    It exists for the cynics to howl and throw rotten veg.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    rcs1000 said:

    I think the Sun Farage worm is broken...

    Yeah I've noticed.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,291
    Cameron handled the heckling well
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Fracking?
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Oooh, that could've been dangerous for Cameron. Lucky she was a swampy character and didn't engage him on anything... I was worried for a sec.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    Sounds like they chucked her out.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?

    Widden kurtins.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    Throw the heckler out.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    JohnO said:

    Cameron handled the heckling well

    Hope they chucked her out, I've got a tender at 7/1!
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    Nicola gets the only applause from a statement from an audience asked not to. Wow.

    Everyone has received some applause.
    The audience are told not to applaud. There's been a few laughs and claps but that's the only one on an opening statement.
    I shudder to think what Sturgeon would have to say for you to think she's got something wrong.
    Read the thread. There's PB Tories wishing she was their MP.
  • tlg86 said:

    Farage good on education.

    Yes. It's a big thing for me. The Tories used to love grammar schools but now they're too embarrassed to support them.
    I went to one (being of Kent), and have just finished a PhD. Doubt I would have accomplished it without the good work of the grammar.

    I have two sons-one at Langton Boys (Grammar) the other probably going to sandwich tech. so i see both side of the story.

    Grammar schools are great-the problem is what is the alternative if you dont get in?

  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?
    Boarded up windows everywhere. Hard as nails in Penygraig, I promise you :)

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,393

    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?

    Widden kurtins.
    Ah. Like Pilton. Thanks.

  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    SLAB are going to get slaughtered by an SNP led by Sturgeon, aren't they?

    They really are. 55% is possible.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Miriam name checked
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited April 2015

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?

    The real Mike Smithson used to work for Oxford and Cambridge universities and would know that without input from proper selective schools, both public and grammar, both universities would be vying in the league tables with the College for Further Creationist Studies, Onehorseville, Ga.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Clegg going for the future generation.
    Ed is going for 0 hours again.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Plato said:

    I really don't like her - but she's coming across well this evening. I'd be very worried if I were a SLABer

    Is there a reason you don't like her?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,393
    Fenster said:

    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?
    Boarded up windows everywhere. Hard as nails in Penygraig, I promise you :)

    And thanks too. We have places like that too. We call them cowboy country.

  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Regulating on zero hours contracts will put people out of work.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Not sure ZHC is the vote winner Ed thinks it is
  • tlg86 said:

    Farage good on education.

    Yes. It's a big thing for me. The Tories used to love grammar schools but now they're too embarrassed to support them.
    I went to one (being of Kent), and have just finished a PhD. Doubt I would have accomplished it without the good work of the grammar.

    I have two sons-one at Langton Boys (Grammar) the other probably going to sandwich tech. so i see both side of the story.

    Grammar schools are great-the problem is what is the alternative if you dont get in?

    Exactly, what about the 60% who do not get into the Grammar school, they do not go to Comprehensives, they end up in Modern Schools with very limited opportunity.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Cam gets appaluse. Bloody hell!
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Anyone offering to build 000's of houses is talking bollocks. There is such a lack of supply of cement and bricks that it's an impossibility.

    As someone who lives in a new build house on a new estate on a brownfield site, in a fast growing town* with lots of new build estates being built that seems like total nonsense. There's '000s of houses being built in my town today let alone the country as a whole.

    * Warrington - got mentioned in the debate earlier by Cameron who visited today.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,718

    tlg86 said:

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to ring back secondary moderns.

    I got a shed load of As and A*s at a comp and could have done just as well at a secondary modern.

    We need grammar schools to nurture talent from a young age, something which comps do not do at all well.
    Yep, and a comp is very different from a Secondary Modern School.

    Having been to a Grammar school and seen those at the Modern having much less opportunity it scares me that people think that this is a way to increase social mobility.
    My primary school was "allowed" about 10 places at local grammar schools. Nothing to do with ability.
  • FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    clegg nailing cost of debt interest point.

    call me dave has not mentioned this. interest costs are something people understand
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    LOL. Ed trashed on ZHCs.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    rcs1000 said:

    Clegg takes the man not the ball, he just humiliated Ed

    There are two moments that stand out to me in this debate: the Farage HIV stats, and the Clegg take-down of Miliband.
    Absolutely right.

    Farage had a better second half but it was already too late, and Clegg slaughtered Miliband.

  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Ed going Marxist at the end
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Who won?

    Vote now................................
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    edited April 2015
    I wish Miliband would stop making eye contact with the camera. It gives me the creeps.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    Miliband gets the last word. Elbows Cameron out of the way lol
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    I have no idea who will win this, probably Farage but he had a quiet-ish end.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Carnyx said:

    Fenster said:

    Leanne Wood is the hardest of the seven when it comes to fighting. She lives in Penygraig.

    That's a village where the window cleaner carries a sander and the dogs go round in pairs.

    OK - why a sander?
    Boarded up windows everywhere. Hard as nails in Penygraig, I promise you :)

    And thanks too. We have places like that too. We call them cowboy country.

    I stayed in Lonehead just outside Edinburgh once... Geez, tough place!!

  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    On this round it was very even but Ed did Cameron some damage in the end.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223

    I wish Miliband would stop making eye contact with camera. It gives me the creeps.

    A friend of mine is complaining that it's reminding him of Richard Keys - and he's really creepy.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Crikey Nicola Sturgeon's odds are very short.
  • tlg86 said:

    Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.

    You will never improve social mobility without them.

    So UKIP wants to ring back secondary moderns.

    I got a shed load of As and A*s at a comp and could have done just as well at a secondary modern.

    We need grammar schools to nurture talent from a young age, something which comps do not do at all well.
    Yep, and a comp is very different from a Secondary Modern School.

    Having been to a Grammar school and seen those at the Modern having much less opportunity it scares me that people think that this is a way to increase social mobility.
    My primary school was "allowed" about 10 places at local grammar schools. Nothing to do with ability.
    and we probably never hear from those that did not make the Grammar school cheering about how good Modern Schools are.
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