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  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Maybe the sample has too many of the "BNP lot"....
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Jessop, there's a line often used 'still a better love story than Twilight'. I've seen it applied to almost everything, including the Call of Duty single player campaign.
  • Grandiose
    Grandiose Posts: 2,323
    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    FYI - If Nicola performs like this in the 5 way debate in a fortnight, then Labour are going to be absolutely hammered in Scotland in May.

    She may not win - the system makes it hard for her - but she's done bloody well so far.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    Yup. Clegg sounded okay as well.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Telegraph twitter poll shows everyone deteriorating and it's a game of who can hold up best.

    Which is Nicola only dropping 8pts

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11512203/Election-debates-Who-does-Twitter-think-is-winning.html
  • saddened
    saddened Posts: 2,245
    EDW2000 said:

    Farage on fire

    Sadly not.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    edited April 2015
    I wonder if Cam may regret not being in the next debate.

    This is passing off without incident - it won't move any votes between Con and Lab. And it won't lead to a UKIP surge.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    EDW2000 said:

    Farage on fire

    Yeah he's melting in the heat.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    Cameron and Clegg doing surprisingly well on immigration.

    Farage looking and sounding like a one trick pony.
  • MaxPB said:

    Ed just collapsed on the worm to below Farage
    What did he do?

    Blow a kiss at Nicola??

    Rubbish on the NHS. His strongest subject. Dave probably shaded the argument vs Ed, but Sturgeon was the most impressive overall.
    Thanks Max

    I thought Ed did quite well last week but the worm is not good for him tonight.

    Sturgeon looks to be having a stormer-Douglas Alexander must be cr&pping himself
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Clegg: "there is good immigration and there is bad immigration"
    The middle road has turned into one foot on two boats.
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    BenM said:

    Mid Staffs drinking from water vase myth.

    Yep, it was a flower vase.

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Those are old pictures of Leanne and Nicola, Nicola is fitter and trimmer and Leanne looks a damn sight younger on the Telegraph !
  • BenM
    BenM Posts: 1,795
    Actually Farage as tempered himself.
  • Grandiose
    Grandiose Posts: 2,323
    Natalie Bennett eliding asylum and immigration. I hoped for better.
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited April 2015
    Dave looking scared. Nige getting laughs.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Farage got a laugh for Cameron's european record.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited April 2015
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    A mistake: and he should have prepared more.

    I'm surprised Farage is scoring so poorly on the worm.
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    Ed doing better, a bit more flexible
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,079
    Pulpstar said:

    FYI - If Nicola performs like this in the 5 way debate in a fortnight, then Labour are going to be absolutely hammered in Scotland in May.

    She may not win - the system makes it hard for her - but she's done bloody well so far.
    "I agree with Nicola!" :lol:
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2015
    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    The worm is useless?
  • BenM
    BenM Posts: 1,795
    This is a good debate free of Mail/Express/Sun balls.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    IanB2 said:

    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....

    Whether he can or can't do it doesn't matter right now. He can lie all he likes, but what matters is whether the people believe him.
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,251

    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Jessop, there's a line often used 'still a better love story than Twilight'. I've seen it applied to almost everything, including the Call of Duty single player campaign.

    The film is laughably bad. Even the baby looks like it's CGI'd. And the CGI running-fast-through-forest is hilariously poor.

    Bet it's still better than the debates, though.
  • SquareRoot
    SquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited April 2015
    remember the instant you gov.. instant polls are all bollox and should be ignored.. a weeks time maybe is the time to reflect.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    I agree with Nick!

    Cam nearly said it....
  • Grandiose
    Grandiose Posts: 2,323

    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.

    At least it's 50 actual people in an actual room.

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Farage @ 28-1 for worst rating
  • Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    See the other tweet, he's also doing the worst.
  • Flightpath
    Flightpath Posts: 4,012

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks
  • EDW2000
    EDW2000 Posts: 29
    wimim wot won it
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487

    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.

    Thanks for the tip
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    ComRes: Farage leading for doing Best and doing Worst!
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    I don't think I'll be watching the next one. Sturgeon though deserves great things mind
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    IanB2 said:

    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....

    That's not what he said. The four years remark was that you couldn't claim benefits until four years after paying in.

    Its actually if you come looking for a job and don't get one within six months (not four years) that would be the time deadline before people have to leave. I think that is if you sign up as looking for a job, if you come here with enough funds to retire that wouldn't apply.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    And his second half is definitely better than his first half.

    Also, people are actually debating Farage which really plays to him.
  • MonikerDiCanio
    MonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    "Three sides to this coin". Cameron is an idiot.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    See the other tweet, he's also doing the worst.
    Marmite strategy - precisely what Nigel needs.
  • Luckyguy1983
    Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,093
    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    The problem for Farage and UKIP is that they think immigration is a problem when the problem is multi-culturalism. They just sound stupid about it because they are too stupid to understand the basic argument.

    Farage understands this very well.

    Then he doesn't express it well.
    It would appear not. I get very paranoid when people miss open goals. Establishment stitch up? Nige agreeing to play the bellicose shit and ensure we stay in the EU? Or just the pressure getting to him? Who knows.

    I said some months ago here that it would be a masterstroke for Farage to resign as leader and for Suzanne Shaw to succeed him and take part in these debates, because people wouldn't know how to handle her. Judging from what I hear of Nigel's performance, I stand by that.
  • Monksfield
    Monksfield Posts: 2,905
    Can the SNP stand in Ludlow please?
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    ..now a passing plug for Cameron's famous three-sided coin...
  • wood just made it clear she doesn't think ukip are a racist party
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,729
    edited April 2015

    remember the instant you gov.. instant polls are all bollox and should be ignored.. a weeks time maybe is the time to reflect.
    For what it is worth, basically the exact opposite of SunNation worm....

    As said before, 7 ways, just going to be a muddy mess.
  • DennisBets
    DennisBets Posts: 244
    astonishing hypocrisy from Sturgeon! Best one yet!
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463
    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    ComRes - Farage is truly the marmite politician.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,079
    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    And his second half is definitely better than his first half.

    Also, people are actually debating Farage which really plays to him.
    Debating Farage or debating WITH Farage? :lol:
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    I agree with Nicola - But it was I PARTLY agree with Nicola... THis is why debate bingo is a game I don't play.
  • TheWatcher
    TheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Grandiose said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
    Blimey. He looks at least 10 years older.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    The worm is useless?
    Its a case of extremes. Farage is both the best and the worst because he fires up people who view one way or the other.

    A net plus or negative is different to just viewing one or the other.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited April 2015
    Nicola Sturgeon is winning over telegraph readers !!!
  • EDW2000
    EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage net 300k bombshell
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Definitely a better period for Farage.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Grandiose said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
    Blimey. He looks at least 10 years older.
    Christ he's only 16 yrs older than me.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Miss DiCanio, technically, he's correct (obverse, reverse and the side).

    Mr. Freggles, the worm is the most wretched thing of its kind since the serpent intruded upon Eden.

    And you're welcome.

    Mr. Grandiose, sounds mob effect-tastic, without even considering whether several have biases for or against an individual or party.

    Mr. Jessop, have you seen the Honest Trailers/Cinema Sins for the series? May be worth checking. I haven't watched the films, but the action does look a bit wonky.
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    ITV worm liking Farage there
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,251
    Woop-woop-woop

    Gratuitous sex scene alert

    woop-woop-woop
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Farage is linking immigration with low wages and higher unemployment.
  • Carnyx
    Carnyx Posts: 44,654

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    Plane has landed OK - comms problem reported.

  • EDW2000
    EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage smash
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    False alarm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-32171407
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    The more this continues the more Cameron's work to ensure he only goes up against Miliband in a seven-way is looking like a masterstroke.

    Miliband is just getting forgotten about, swamped, one voice among six 'opposition' voices.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    SNP landslide based on Twitter !
  • Flightpath
    Flightpath Posts: 4,012

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    60 a day?
    Be fair, he hasn't had a drink for over 2 hours
  • surbiton
    surbiton Posts: 13,549
    Nicola is the best - no doubt. I also admire the way Leanne Wood is portraying herself.
  • BenM
    BenM Posts: 1,795
    2nd set of applause for squashing Farage.
  • EDW2000
    EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Weak Nick smashed
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    Freggles said:

    ITV worm liking Farage there

    Yep, the majority of people will like Farage on this question.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Ok, Farage and Clegg replaying the euro-debates dynamic and Farage is kicking him again.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Clegg manages to sound eminently reasonable, which is quite scary.
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Clegg just got slapped down.
  • perdix
    perdix Posts: 1,806
    The headlines "boos & cheers" on the Telegraph site shows the debate to be essentially a circus.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Clegg 1: Farage 0
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks
    Thanks. I try and say it how i see it. I thought Farage would pummel Cameron on immigration.

    He hasn't. Cameron was clearly prepared for it.
  • Monksfield
    Monksfield Posts: 2,905
    Speedy said:

    Ok, Farage and Clegg replaying the euro-debates dynamic and Farage is kicking him again.

    Not sure about that. Thought Clegg scored some good hits there
  • Sol Campbell speaks for the nation too. Spit.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    Nicola Sturgeon is winning over telegraph readers !!!

    its April 2nd Pulpstar.
  • EDW2000
    EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Squabbling
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    I wanna come back I wanna come back on that I wanna come back
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Jessop, you're talking about Twilight, right?
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Julie favours Cam a touch there - letting him deal with Syria as well.
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463
    Ishmael_X said:

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    False alarm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-32171407
    Yep. Thanks Ishmael. Just saw that.
  • stjohn
    stjohn Posts: 1,910
    Farage 1.91
    Cameron 6.6
    Miliband 7.0
    Clegg 30
    Sturgeon 5.6

    Miliband doing much better and Clegg money down the tube.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Clegg was much better than in the Euro debates; but not because his answers were better, but because his delivery was.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,729
    edited April 2015
    ComRed...Farage winning and losing at the same time :-)

    ITV News / ComRes poll says Ukip leader performed BEST in the first half. Farage is also performing WORST according to the poll.

    As anybody backed him to be the winner and loser?
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    I'm now -£5 Sturgeon, - £10 Farage, +£70 Cameron, +£73 Miliband, +£100 Clegg, +£191 Wood and +£800 Bennett!
  • TheWatcher
    TheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    perdix said:

    The headlines "boos & cheers" on the Telegraph site shows the debate to be essentially a circus.

    No one watching will remember who said what. It's all lost in noise.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Does Ed Miliband think he's running for President lol ?!
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    Lots of love emanating from English Labourites on here towards Nicola.

    Why on earth would Scots prefer Ed?
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327

    I'm now -£5 Sturgeon, - £10 Farage, +£70 Cameron, +£73 Miliband, +£100 Clegg, +£191 Wood and +£800 Bennett!

    Wow! Sell, sell, sell!
  • SquareRoot
    SquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    ignore the instant polls/woms they are all bollox... you need time to reflect...
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