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  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    Maybe the sample has too many of the "BNP lot"....
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Jessop, there's a line often used 'still a better love story than Twilight'. I've seen it applied to almost everything, including the Call of Duty single player campaign.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    FYI - If Nicola performs like this in the 5 way debate in a fortnight, then Labour are going to be absolutely hammered in Scotland in May.

    She may not win - the system makes it hard for her - but she's done bloody well so far.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    Yup. Clegg sounded okay as well.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Telegraph twitter poll shows everyone deteriorating and it's a game of who can hold up best.

    Which is Nicola only dropping 8pts

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11512203/Election-debates-Who-does-Twitter-think-is-winning.html
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    EDW2000 said:

    Farage on fire

    Sadly not.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    edited April 2015
    I wonder if Cam may regret not being in the next debate.

    This is passing off without incident - it won't move any votes between Con and Lab. And it won't lead to a UKIP surge.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    EDW2000 said:

    Farage on fire

    Yeah he's melting in the heat.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Cameron and Clegg doing surprisingly well on immigration.

    Farage looking and sounding like a one trick pony.
  • MaxPB said:

    Ed just collapsed on the worm to below Farage
    What did he do?

    Blow a kiss at Nicola??

    Rubbish on the NHS. His strongest subject. Dave probably shaded the argument vs Ed, but Sturgeon was the most impressive overall.
    Thanks Max

    I thought Ed did quite well last week but the worm is not good for him tonight.

    Sturgeon looks to be having a stormer-Douglas Alexander must be cr&pping himself
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Clegg: "there is good immigration and there is bad immigration"
    The middle road has turned into one foot on two boats.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    BenM said:

    Mid Staffs drinking from water vase myth.

    Yep, it was a flower vase.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Those are old pictures of Leanne and Nicola, Nicola is fitter and trimmer and Leanne looks a damn sight younger on the Telegraph !
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    Actually Farage as tempered himself.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Natalie Bennett eliding asylum and immigration. I hoped for better.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited April 2015
    Dave looking scared. Nige getting laughs.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Farage got a laugh for Cameron's european record.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,157
    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    edited April 2015
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,644
    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    A mistake: and he should have prepared more.

    I'm surprised Farage is scoring so poorly on the worm.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Ed doing better, a bit more flexible
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135
    Pulpstar said:

    FYI - If Nicola performs like this in the 5 way debate in a fortnight, then Labour are going to be absolutely hammered in Scotland in May.

    She may not win - the system makes it hard for her - but she's done bloody well so far.
    "I agree with Nicola!" :lol:
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited April 2015
    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    The worm is useless?
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    This is a good debate free of Mail/Express/Sun balls.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,223
    IanB2 said:

    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....

    Whether he can or can't do it doesn't matter right now. He can lie all he likes, but what matters is whether the people believe him.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,483

    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Jessop, there's a line often used 'still a better love story than Twilight'. I've seen it applied to almost everything, including the Call of Duty single player campaign.

    The film is laughably bad. Even the baby looks like it's CGI'd. And the CGI running-fast-through-forest is hilariously poor.

    Bet it's still better than the debates, though.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited April 2015
    remember the instant you gov.. instant polls are all bollox and should be ignored.. a weeks time maybe is the time to reflect.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    I agree with Nick!

    Cam nearly said it....
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323

    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.

    At least it's 50 actual people in an actual room.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Farage @ 28-1 for worst rating
  • Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    See the other tweet, he's also doing the worst.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    wimim wot won it
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486

    Not watching the debate, but did see a tiny bit on the BBC News Channel.

    The despicable worm was on.

    Thanks for the tip
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    ComRes: Farage leading for doing Best and doing Worst!
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    I don't think I'll be watching the next one. Sturgeon though deserves great things mind
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    IanB2 said:

    Surely Cammo can't have meant what he said - EU immigrants with no job will be expelled after four years? Almost certainly illegal under EU rules, would prevent the idle rich or retirees coming here, if EU countries like Spain took the same approach there would be a shedload of brits we would need to repatriate....

    That's not what he said. The four years remark was that you couldn't claim benefits until four years after paying in.

    Its actually if you come looking for a job and don't get one within six months (not four years) that would be the time deadline before people have to leave. I think that is if you sign up as looking for a job, if you come here with enough funds to retire that wouldn't apply.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,644
    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    And his second half is definitely better than his first half.

    Also, people are actually debating Farage which really plays to him.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    "Three sides to this coin". Cameron is an idiot.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    See the other tweet, he's also doing the worst.
    Marmite strategy - precisely what Nigel needs.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,857
    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    The problem for Farage and UKIP is that they think immigration is a problem when the problem is multi-culturalism. They just sound stupid about it because they are too stupid to understand the basic argument.

    Farage understands this very well.

    Then he doesn't express it well.
    It would appear not. I get very paranoid when people miss open goals. Establishment stitch up? Nige agreeing to play the bellicose shit and ensure we stay in the EU? Or just the pressure getting to him? Who knows.

    I said some months ago here that it would be a masterstroke for Farage to resign as leader and for Suzanne Shaw to succeed him and take part in these debates, because people wouldn't know how to handle her. Judging from what I hear of Nigel's performance, I stand by that.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    Can the SNP stand in Ludlow please?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,157
    ..now a passing plug for Cameron's famous three-sided coin...
  • wood just made it clear she doesn't think ukip are a racist party
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited April 2015

    remember the instant you gov.. instant polls are all bollox and should be ignored.. a weeks time maybe is the time to reflect.
    For what it is worth, basically the exact opposite of SunNation worm....

    As said before, 7 ways, just going to be a muddy mess.
  • DennisBetsDennisBets Posts: 244
    astonishing hypocrisy from Sturgeon! Best one yet!
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,688
    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    ComRes - Farage is truly the marmite politician.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135
    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    And his second half is definitely better than his first half.

    Also, people are actually debating Farage which really plays to him.
    Debating Farage or debating WITH Farage? :lol:
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    I agree with Nicola - But it was I PARTLY agree with Nicola... THis is why debate bingo is a game I don't play.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Grandiose said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
    Blimey. He looks at least 10 years older.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Speedy said:

    So despite Farage kicking himself on the HIV thing he's ahead so far?
    The worm is useless?
    Its a case of extremes. Farage is both the best and the worst because he fires up people who view one way or the other.

    A net plus or negative is different to just viewing one or the other.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    edited April 2015
    Nicola Sturgeon is winning over telegraph readers !!!
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage net 300k bombshell
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,644
    Definitely a better period for Farage.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Grandiose said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    Looks like he declined the make up.
    51 tomorrow!
    Blimey. He looks at least 10 years older.
    Christ he's only 16 yrs older than me.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Miss DiCanio, technically, he's correct (obverse, reverse and the side).

    Mr. Freggles, the worm is the most wretched thing of its kind since the serpent intruded upon Eden.

    And you're welcome.

    Mr. Grandiose, sounds mob effect-tastic, without even considering whether several have biases for or against an individual or party.

    Mr. Jessop, have you seen the Honest Trailers/Cinema Sins for the series? May be worth checking. I haven't watched the films, but the action does look a bit wonky.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    ITV worm liking Farage there
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,483
    Woop-woop-woop

    Gratuitous sex scene alert

    woop-woop-woop
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Farage is linking immigration with low wages and higher unemployment.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,378

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    Plane has landed OK - comms problem reported.

  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Farage smash
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    False alarm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-32171407
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    The more this continues the more Cameron's work to ensure he only goes up against Miliband in a seven-way is looking like a masterstroke.

    Miliband is just getting forgotten about, swamped, one voice among six 'opposition' voices.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    SNP landslide based on Twitter !
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    This is quite dull.

    However, Farage looks really rough. Remind me how old he is - 60's?

    60 a day?
    Be fair, he hasn't had a drink for over 2 hours
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Nicola is the best - no doubt. I also admire the way Leanne Wood is portraying herself.
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    2nd set of applause for squashing Farage.
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Weak Nick smashed
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Freggles said:

    ITV worm liking Farage there

    Yep, the majority of people will like Farage on this question.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Ok, Farage and Clegg replaying the euro-debates dynamic and Farage is kicking him again.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,644
    Clegg manages to sound eminently reasonable, which is quite scary.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Clegg just got slapped down.
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    The headlines "boos & cheers" on the Telegraph site shows the debate to be essentially a circus.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,157
    Clegg 1: Farage 0
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks

    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this.. I thought Cameron came across better on immigration than Farage.

    You make a good contrast to all the one eyed pro and anti comments on here. Some comments seem to be as if they can change reality just by making them
    I can only repeat, brent crude down 5% on news of Iran talks
    Thanks. I try and say it how i see it. I thought Farage would pummel Cameron on immigration.

    He hasn't. Cameron was clearly prepared for it.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    Speedy said:

    Ok, Farage and Clegg replaying the euro-debates dynamic and Farage is kicking him again.

    Not sure about that. Thought Clegg scored some good hits there
  • Sol Campbell speaks for the nation too. Spit.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    Nicola Sturgeon is winning over telegraph readers !!!

    its April 2nd Pulpstar.
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Squabbling
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    I wanna come back I wanna come back on that I wanna come back
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Jessop, you're talking about Twilight, right?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Julie favours Cam a touch there - letting him deal with Syria as well.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,688
    Ishmael_X said:

    OT folks whilst you are watching this.

    Major incident alert at Prestwick Airport with reports that parts of Scottish airspace have been closed.

    False alarm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-32171407
    Yep. Thanks Ishmael. Just saw that.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Farage 1.91
    Cameron 6.6
    Miliband 7.0
    Clegg 30
    Sturgeon 5.6

    Miliband doing much better and Clegg money down the tube.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,644
    Clegg was much better than in the Euro debates; but not because his answers were better, but because his delivery was.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited April 2015
    ComRed...Farage winning and losing at the same time :-)

    ITV News / ComRes poll says Ukip leader performed BEST in the first half. Farage is also performing WORST according to the poll.

    As anybody backed him to be the winner and loser?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    I'm now -£5 Sturgeon, - £10 Farage, +£70 Cameron, +£73 Miliband, +£100 Clegg, +£191 Wood and +£800 Bennett!
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    perdix said:

    The headlines "boos & cheers" on the Telegraph site shows the debate to be essentially a circus.

    No one watching will remember who said what. It's all lost in noise.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Does Ed Miliband think he's running for President lol ?!
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Lots of love emanating from English Labourites on here towards Nicola.

    Why on earth would Scots prefer Ed?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    I'm now -£5 Sturgeon, - £10 Farage, +£70 Cameron, +£73 Miliband, +£100 Clegg, +£191 Wood and +£800 Bennett!

    Wow! Sell, sell, sell!
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    ignore the instant polls/woms they are all bollox... you need time to reflect...
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