As mentioned, not watching, but a psych fact that's worth remembering: primacy and recency. People tend to remember most the very start and very end of something.
So, for overall impressions I'd say someone can get away with a boring or slightly lacklustre middle if they start/end well. Worse to do it the other way around.
Of course, if you get shot halfway through lunch you'll still remember the gunshot more than your starter.
Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.
You will never improve social mobility without them.
So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?
The real Mike Smithson used to work for Oxford and Cambridge universities and would know that without input from proper selective schools, both public and grammar, both universities would be vying in the league tables with the College for Further Creationist Studies, Onehorseville, Ga.
Yes. It's a big thing for me. The Tories used to love grammar schools but now they're too embarrassed to support them.
I went to one (being of Kent), and have just finished a PhD. Doubt I would have accomplished it without the good work of the grammar.
I have two sons-one at Langton Boys (Grammar) the other probably going to sandwich tech. so i see both side of the story.
Grammar schools are great-the problem is what is the alternative if you dont get in?
Exactly, what about the 60% who do not get into the Grammar school, they do not go to Comprehensives, they end up in Modern Schools with very limited opportunity.
I live in Bucks, my eldest granddaughter didn't pass the eleven plus but achieved much higher results than we expected at her comprehensive.
Overwhelming consensus on Facebook among my Laboury friends is wishes that Sturgeon was the Labour leader. Someone who actually has the balls to argue for vaguely leftwing policies (and sounds human).
Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.
You will never improve social mobility without them.
So UKIP wants to ring back secondary moderns.
I got a shed load of As and A*s at a comp and could have done just as well at a secondary modern.
We need grammar schools to nurture talent from a young age, something which comps do not do at all well.
Yep, and a comp is very different from a Secondary Modern School.
Having been to a Grammar school and seen those at the Modern having much less opportunity it scares me that people think that this is a way to increase social mobility.
My primary school was "allowed" about 10 places at local grammar schools. Nothing to do with ability.
and we probably never hear from those that did not make the Grammar school cheering about how good Modern Schools are.
Absolutely. That "decision" at 11 made enormous life differences.
Anyone offering to build 000's of houses is talking bollocks. There is such a lack of supply of cement and bricks that it's an impossibility.
As someone who lives in a new build house on a new estate on a brownfield site, in a fast growing town* with lots of new build estates being built that seems like total nonsense. There's '000s of houses being built in my town today let alone the country as a whole.
* Warrington - got mentioned in the debate earlier by Cameron who visited today.
There's a massive lead time on brick orders in South East England. So many brick yards and cement plants have been mothballed or shut down.
Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.
You will never improve social mobility without them.
So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?
I went to Grammar School.
To be taught by grammar school teachers. Do people want to to be taught by those left behind? Will Farage admit that so called 'selection' in Kent grammars is a joke? OGH is right to point out the corollary. It all just shows that Farage is in the end just plain bonkers.
As mentioned, not watching, but a psych fact that's worth remembering: primacy and recency. People tend to remember most the very start and very end of something.
So, for overall impressions I'd say someone can get away with a boring or slightly lacklustre middle if they start/end well. Worse to do it the other way around.
Of course, if you get shot halfway through lunch you'll still remember the gunshot more than your starter.
Sean T says much the same thing about novels. A novel that starts and finishes strongly can sustain a weak middle.
Anyone offering to build 000's of houses is talking bollocks. There is such a lack of supply of cement and bricks that it's an impossibility.
As someone who lives in a new build house on a new estate on a brownfield site, in a fast growing town* with lots of new build estates being built that seems like total nonsense. There's '000s of houses being built in my town today let alone the country as a whole.
* Warrington - got mentioned in the debate earlier by Cameron who visited today.
The planning applications passed do not support the numbers politicians claim they want to see.
When the CIL arrangements come into effect you will see a huge pause as housing construction hits the buffers.
Farage going big on grammar schools, most important policy of all for me.
You will never improve social mobility without them.
So UKIP wants to bring back secondary moderns?
The real Mike Smithson used to work for Oxford and Cambridge universities and would know that without input from proper selective schools, both public and grammar, both universities would be vying in the league tables with the College for Further Creationist Studies, Onehorseville, Ga.
SLAB are going to get slaughtered by an SNP led by Sturgeon, aren't they?
They really are. 55% is possible.
Do you think the influx of Labour supporters it will pull them too far to the left?
Officially yes. But in power they will continue with very centrist, very liberal, very effective government. They have a rock solid Leadership Group and it's not one person - they just put the most attractive communicator as a figurehead.
Yes. It's a big thing for me. The Tories used to love grammar schools but now they're too embarrassed to support them.
I went to one (being of Kent), and have just finished a PhD. Doubt I would have accomplished it without the good work of the grammar.
I have two sons-one at Langton Boys (Grammar) the other probably going to sandwich tech. so i see both side of the story.
Grammar schools are great-the problem is what is the alternative if you dont get in?
Exactly, what about the 60% who do not get into the Grammar school, they do not go to Comprehensives, they end up in Modern Schools with very limited opportunity.
I live in Bucks, my eldest granddaughter didn't pass the eleven plus but achieved much higher results than we expected at her comprehensive.
To be fair I'm talking about the 50's, you're talking about 50 yars later.
Mr. F, rather unsurprisingly, Mr. T's entirely correct about the old book business.
Of course, with samples, if you have a weak beginning then people may well not buy it in the first place. And if you screw up the ending [it was all just a dream] that can make the entire book seem rubbish.
Sturgeon is a quality performer no question about that. All very staged, everyone fully prepared so hard to call who was the best. Highlight for me was Cam hitting on Mid Staffs, also he did ok with Farage.
Farage showed more than ever he is a one trick pony but that trick might decide the next PM, which I predict won't be good.
So first impression is that they all did about the same, with Farage doing the best and worst moments of the night.
On the margin I think that Miliband did better than Cameron, as Cameron was clearly outnumbered and struggling most of the time to handle the constant attack.
Nobody will have topped 25% in that. The question is - who outperformed their poll ratings?
25% for UKIP is very good for them, whether it is first or second. Likewise 15% for the LibDems would be an excellent result for them given they are at 8% in the polls.
Nobody will have topped 25% in that. The question is - who outperformed their poll ratings?
25% for UKIP is very good for them, whether it is first or second. Likewise 15% for the LibDems would be an excellent result for them given they are at 8% in the polls.
Sturgeon will easily outperform the 5% or so that the SNP get UK-wide.
Nicola gets the only applause from a statement from an audience asked not to. Wow.
Everyone has received some applause.
The audience are told not to applaud. There's been a few laughs and claps but that's the only one on an opening statement.
I shudder to think what Sturgeon would have to say for you to think she's got something wrong.
Read the thread. There's PB Tories wishing she was their MP.
There's nothing duller than reading someone bigging up their hero every five seconds and mocking anyone who disagrees with them. If you want people to listen to you then try showing an ounce of perspective now and then instead of acting like you've been brainwashed by a personality cult.
Nicola actually grown her Twitter rating according to telegraph and topping out the Sun Worm.
Sturgeon; politically banal ( 1970s Labour crap ), vocally grating , physically unimpressive. Frankly, I expected more from the highest paid politician on the panel and indeed in the UK.
What we learn here is that Ed is in trouble for the opposition only debates. Could be awful for him. He got fucked over NHS privatisation more than Dave.
Nobody will have topped 25% in that. The question is - who outperformed their poll ratings?
25% for UKIP is very good for them, whether it is first or second. Likewise 15% for the LibDems would be an excellent result for them given they are at 8% in the polls.
Sturgeon will easily outperform the 5% or so that the SNP get UK-wide.
That is true, but the SNP overlaps with Labour in policies.
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So, for overall impressions I'd say someone can get away with a boring or slightly lacklustre middle if they start/end well. Worse to do it the other way around.
Of course, if you get shot halfway through lunch you'll still remember the gunshot more than your starter.
Clegg is doing the "stay the course".
I thought all short hold tenancies were 6 months - I can't think of anything worse than a 3yrs one.
See what that does to rental supply!
Farage could have performed so much better, but a really good second half.
Miliband had a great first half, but a weak second one.
David Cameron was very lucky there was only one debate.
Natalie Bennett was entertaining :-)
It all just shows that Farage is in the end just plain bonkers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-32167724
I would question the last paragraph's accuracy.
When the CIL arrangements come into effect you will see a huge pause as housing construction hits the buffers.
Good line, coming from Bennett.
i expect viewing figures at the end will be minimal
Increasingly I think there's going to be a surge for them after this.
Biggest loser: Farage
Definitely the starter.
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Of course, with samples, if you have a weak beginning then people may well not buy it in the first place. And if you screw up the ending [it was all just a dream] that can make the entire book seem rubbish.
Anyway, I'm off for the night.
#Alanbrookewon
Farage showed more than ever he is a one trick pony but that trick might decide the next PM, which I predict won't be good.
On the margin I think that Miliband did better than Cameron, as Cameron was clearly outnumbered and struggling most of the time to handle the constant attack.
Farage 1.86
Cameron 10.0
Miliband 6.0
Clegg 50.0
Sturgeon 3.4
Who wins .....?
2. Bennett
3. Clegg
4. Farage
5. Wood
6=. Cameron and Miliband (wasn't easy for them, to be fair - being the establishment)
Overall, probably will win votes for the Greens and SNP and some back for the Lib Dems.
Biggest victory is Cameron's. Getting the debates done early - they'll be forgotten by the GE.
Alistair Campbell admits Alanbrooke is king
25% for UKIP is very good for them, whether it is first or second.
Likewise 15% for the LibDems would be an excellent result for them given they are at 8% in the polls.
Biggest loser: Farage
I think Cameron will be happier than Miliband tonight. Cameron looked like a PM, Miliband looked like one of the others.
It also highlights a well-known issue with AWS.
As an old friend would have said: this is what happens if you let children play on the grown-up's railway. Perhaps a tad unfair, but understandable.
No wonder Cameron did not want the debates to be head to heads. He wanted a lot of noise and not a debate that got into any specific detail.
Newvista (ComRes?) is timing out on the final click.
Frankly, I expected more from the highest paid politician on the panel and indeed in the UK.
"F=k I'm crap I wish I was Alanbrooke, I'm going back to dicking poodles "