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  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    Yes, it's been ages since we last had riots triggered by the slaughter of three young children.

    Family remember Alice at Southport funeral
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj8wz8157o
    "Triggered by" meaning, used as excuse for hate-mongering assholes to dishonor the memory of the victims?
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So it turns out it is flea-treatments for dogs and cats that are also killing our rivers. Springwatch

    FFS get rid of your pets. You don't need animal slaves. They are killing Britain

    So if we ban cats, dogs and Glasto we should be better off for mayflies, tadpoles and so on.
    YES. People that insist on owning cats and dogs are pathetic social losers. There is no reason for it, it is pure selfishness, with every day that passes this becomes more apparent. You do not need a dog slave, shitting the fuck out of the world, you do not need a cat slave, killing all the songbirds in the nation. Essentially, they should be forbidden, until that moment, they should be very very heavily taxed
    Walking a dog keeps the late middle aged and elderly fit, having a cat stops elderly spinsters getting lonely
    Buy a frigging robot
    Where can one buy these frigging robots?
    Best let "Le(er)on" conduct extensive testing, to ensure the machine does NOT decide to rip of your family jewels.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,484
    edited August 12
    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,751

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    Yes, it's been ages since we last had riots triggered by the slaughter of three young children.

    Family remember Alice at Southport funeral
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj8wz8157o
    "Triggered by" meaning, used as excuse for hate-mongering assholes to dishonor the memory of the victims?
    Potato, potato. One funeral was held yesterday (Sunday) and features on a number of newspaper front pages, along with the parents' plea for no more disorder.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,186

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    Yes, it's been ages since we last had riots triggered by the slaughter of three young children.

    Family remember Alice at Southport funeral
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj8wz8157o
    "Triggered by" meaning, used as excuse for hate-mongering assholes to dishonor the memory of the victims?
    What, don't you love children enough to set fire to a hotel full of asylum seekers?
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,186
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So it turns out it is flea-treatments for dogs and cats that are also killing our rivers. Springwatch

    FFS get rid of your pets. You don't need animal slaves. They are killing Britain

    So if we ban cats, dogs and Glasto we should be better off for mayflies, tadpoles and so on.
    YES. People that insist on owning cats and dogs are pathetic social losers. There is no reason for it, it is pure selfishness, with every day that passes this becomes more apparent. You do not need a dog slave, shitting the fuck out of the world, you do not need a cat slave, killing all the songbirds in the nation. Essentially, they should be forbidden, until that moment, they should be very very heavily taxed
    Yep, you and Donald Trump don't like pets. Figures.
    You are an absolute hypocrite, and you have a pet dog or cat, I am guessing? Figures

    No one can own a pet dog or cat and pretend to care about the environment
    You are being rather Leon about yet another topic. It’s possible to do both, of course it is. Life is about choices. You choose to travel all over the planet using fossil fuels. Don’t lecture others on their lifestyle choices.
    I am not a hypocrite, I accept my lifestyle imposes on the environment so I offset it with fees, and I have the smallest possible home, and no car, and so on

    What sticks in the craw is the preachy Green lefties, especially on here, who wank on and on and yet they keep dogs and cats which is just about the worst thing you can do for Britain's strained ecosystem. This latest revelation that vet medicines poison our rivers merely adds to that argument, and their evil

    KILL YOUR PETS, YOU HYPOCRITES
    The real worst thing you can do? Be alive. Humans are ruining the environment, so the real answer, sadly, is fewer humans. You’ve had two kids. Two humans out there ruining the environment.

    Of course I am being provocative, but the thing is, dog owners and cat owners don't even admit there is a problem, do they? They won't even acknowledge it? Not a shred of guilt, not a scintilla of remorse, even as they devastate the environment

    Fuck them. And it's not like dog owning or cat owning is essential (unlike, say, travel) for all but a few people with working dogs, it is a frivolous choice. And it is an evil selfish choice, to my mind, and one that should shame the chooser

    Eventually, the world will realise this, until then we have to put up with these selfish fucks and their ludicrous "pets"
    Most pet owners probably do realise that there are issues, just as there are with human medicines entering the water courses. They also tend to regard pets as part of the family. If you don’t feel that way about pets, you will never understand.
    I completely understand. I grew up in a pet-owning family, and I GREW OUT OF IT, when I realised it is quite perverse, keeping live animals as weird neutered slaves, solely for amusement, to make up for some creepy social deficit in the owner

    Honestly, in about 100 years we will look back on pet-owning - and, to be fair, meat-eating of slaughtered sentient creatures - the way we look back on human slavery now
    Didn't take long to get from "racist rioters have got a point" to "slavery wasn't really that bad", did it?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,926
    General Election Poll - North Carolina

    🔵 Harris 46%
    🔴 Trump 46%

    YouGov #A (🔵) - 802 RV - 8/9


    https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1822670019316142577

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,926
    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So it turns out it is flea-treatments for dogs and cats that are also killing our rivers. Springwatch

    FFS get rid of your pets. You don't need animal slaves. They are killing Britain

    So if we ban cats, dogs and Glasto we should be better off for mayflies, tadpoles and so on.
    YES. People that insist on owning cats and dogs are pathetic social losers. There is no reason for it, it is pure selfishness, with every day that passes this becomes more apparent. You do not need a dog slave, shitting the fuck out of the world, you do not need a cat slave, killing all the songbirds in the nation. Essentially, they should be forbidden, until that moment, they should be very very heavily taxed
    Yep, you and Donald Trump don't like pets. Figures.
    You are an absolute hypocrite, and you have a pet dog or cat, I am guessing? Figures

    No one can own a pet dog or cat and pretend to care about the environment
    You are being rather Leon about yet another topic. It’s possible to do both, of course it is. Life is about choices. You choose to travel all over the planet using fossil fuels. Don’t lecture others on their lifestyle choices.
    I am not a hypocrite, I accept my lifestyle imposes on the environment so I offset it with fees, and I have the smallest possible home, and no car, and so on

    What sticks in the craw is the preachy Green lefties, especially on here, who wank on and on and yet they keep dogs and cats which is just about the worst thing you can do for Britain's strained ecosystem. This latest revelation that vet medicines poison our rivers merely adds to that argument, and their evil

    KILL YOUR PETS, YOU HYPOCRITES
    The real worst thing you can do? Be alive. Humans are ruining the environment, so the real answer, sadly, is fewer humans. You’ve had two kids. Two humans out there ruining the environment.

    Of course I am being provocative, but the thing is, dog owners and cat owners don't even admit there is a problem, do they? They won't even acknowledge it? Not a shred of guilt, not a scintilla of remorse, even as they devastate the environment

    Fuck them. And it's not like dog owning or cat owning is essential (unlike, say, travel) for all but a few people with working dogs, it is a frivolous choice. And it is an evil selfish choice, to my mind, and one that should shame the chooser

    Eventually, the world will realise this, until then we have to put up with these selfish fucks and their ludicrous "pets"
    Most pet owners probably do realise that there are issues, just as there are with human medicines entering the water courses. They also tend to regard pets as part of the family. If you don’t feel that way about pets, you will never understand.
    I completely understand. I grew up in a pet-owning family, and I GREW OUT OF IT, when I realised it is quite perverse, keeping live animals as weird neutered slaves, solely for amusement, to make up for some creepy social deficit in the owner

    Honestly, in about 100 years we will look back on pet-owning - and, to be fair, meat-eating of slaughtered sentient creatures - the way we look back on human slavery now
    Didn't take long to get from "racist rioters have got a point" to "slavery wasn't really that bad", did it?
    Dude who eats dogs muses on the morality of having pets.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,075

    HYUFD said:

    Not quite sure what Frank Sinatra would make of this version of My Way

    Surely My Way is one song that it's ok to do your own way?
    It's originally a French song, "Comme d'habitude". Slightly different sentiment to the UK funeral play out.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,509

    Drone attack being reported at airbase near Moscow.

    This Kursk invasion must be causing worries in Moscow, and not just due to the "normal" grabbing of territory.

    There's now no border infrastructure. Lots of Russians are fleeing.

    Surely it is now all too easy to send in special forces in civilian cars during the chaos?
    Russia is now evacuating civilians from a large area of Kursk Oblast. Their military units in the area already evacuated, unlikely to be their most skilled divisions, are being picked off by Ukranian special forces with night vision equipment that the Russians don’t have.
    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1822415809911599431
    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1822377152764903906

    Meanwhile, Ukranian drones attacked an airbase near Moscow overnight, said to be home to a number of ‘special mission aircraft’. https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1822765556593770874
    These aircraft are things like flying radar and command posts, very rare and valuable targets, mostly Soviet-era and irreplaceable if lost.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,568
    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,772
    edited August 12
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So it turns out it is flea-treatments for dogs and cats that are also killing our rivers. Springwatch

    FFS get rid of your pets. You don't need animal slaves. They are killing Britain

    So if we ban cats, dogs and Glasto we should be better off for mayflies, tadpoles and so on.
    YES. People that insist on owning cats and dogs are pathetic social losers. There is no reason for it, it is pure selfishness, with every day that passes this becomes more apparent. You do not need a dog slave, shitting the fuck out of the world, you do not need a cat slave, killing all the songbirds in the nation. Essentially, they should be forbidden, until that moment, they should be very very heavily taxed
    Yep, you and Donald Trump don't like pets. Figures.
    You are an absolute hypocrite, and you have a pet dog or cat, I am guessing? Figures

    No one can own a pet dog or cat and pretend to care about the environment
    You are being rather Leon about yet another topic. It’s possible to do both, of course it is. Life is about choices. You choose to travel all over the planet using fossil fuels. Don’t lecture others on their lifestyle choices.
    I am not a hypocrite, I accept my lifestyle imposes on the environment so I offset it with fees, and I have the smallest possible home, and no car, and so on

    What sticks in the craw is the preachy Green lefties, especially on here, who wank on and on and yet they keep dogs and cats which is just about the worst thing you can do for Britain's strained ecosystem. This latest revelation that vet medicines poison our rivers merely adds to that argument, and their evil

    KILL YOUR PETS, YOU HYPOCRITES
    The real worst thing you can do? Be alive. Humans are ruining the environment, so the real answer, sadly, is fewer humans. You’ve had two kids. Two humans out there ruining the environment.

    Of course I am being provocative, but the thing is, dog owners and cat owners don't even admit there is a problem, do they? They won't even acknowledge it? Not a shred of guilt, not a scintilla of remorse, even as they devastate the environment

    Fuck them. And it's not like dog owning or cat owning is essential (unlike, say, travel) for all but a few people with working dogs, it is a frivolous choice. And it is an evil selfish choice, to my mind, and one that should shame the chooser

    Eventually, the world will realise this, until then we have to put up with these selfish fucks and their ludicrous "pets"
    Most pet owners probably do realise that there are issues, just as there are with human medicines entering the water courses. They also tend to regard pets as part of the family. If you don’t feel that way about pets, you will never understand.
    I completely understand. I grew up in a pet-owning family, and I GREW OUT OF IT, when I realised it is quite perverse, keeping live animals as weird neutered slaves, solely for amusement, to make up for some creepy social deficit in the owner

    Honestly, in about 100 years we will look back on pet-owning - and, to be fair, meat-eating of slaughtered sentient creatures - the way we look back on human slavery now
    It's an interesting discussion, but going off on a tangent you were critical of roger the other day for not knowing a story, and worse you were rude, having listed out a whole pile of events, because I admitted to not knowing all of them, but did know most, yet you had no idea about the isse of dog flea treatment impacting river insects which has been reported umpteen times over the years.

    See it is true, contrary to popular belief PB posters, including you don't know everything.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,325
    Brace brace.

    Iran’s retribution is imminent it would seem.

    Probably nothing

    https://x.com/aliostad/status/1822753419376853112?s=61

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,321
    Taz said:

    Brace brace.

    Iran’s retribution is imminent it would seem.

    Probably nothing

    https://x.com/aliostad/status/1822753419376853112?s=61

    Are they going to shoot down one of their own airliners, or accidentally strafe Gaza and then blame Israel?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,319
    ...
    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Having been mean about Britain for weeks, gotta say Richmond riverside looks pretty good this evening



    Somehow we need to make all the left behind towns have a hint of Richmond upon Thames. It’s not going to be easy - but we really really really need to try

    Cleaning out town centres, getting rid of litter, erasing graffiti, giving little towns a reason to be proud. That’s the way. The French do it. We can, too

    I sketched out an idea for a thread header about this a while back. Possibly a new raison d'etre for the Tories: making Britain beautiful. Somewhere we can be proud to leave to our grandchildren.
    If there's a grift in it for them why not?

    The simple fact is that austerity decimated civic society and services so the place looks a shambles. After 14 years of Conservative Governments inner cities are derelict, the highways are pot-holed and our green and pleasant land is a repository for fly-tipped waste. I don't suppose resolving all that is high on Labour's to-do list, and it certainly won't be on the next Conservative Government's top fifty agenda.
    This argument appears to be:
    Cookie: The beautification of Britain is a good idea, and the Tories ought to use it as part of an offer to widen their appeal.
    MexicanPete: But I hate the Tories.

    I'm not arguing about whether or not the Tories are good. I'm arguing that this is something good they could usefully and distinctively be in favour of.
    But why would they? It's against all their instincts, certainly those of the last fourteen years. Is there a vote in it for them? That would be their litmus test.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,005
    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,258
    Nigelb said:

    General Election Poll - North Carolina

    🔵 Harris 46%
    🔴 Trump 46%

    YouGov #A (🔵) - 802 RV - 8/9


    https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1822670019316142577

    Harris at 2.6 on betfair to take NC - I think that's value.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,321

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Leon would have to be careful though. Imagine if he got a Labrador. He'd be sitting up all night worrying that there might be a Lab leak.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,186
    kjh said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So it turns out it is flea-treatments for dogs and cats that are also killing our rivers. Springwatch

    FFS get rid of your pets. You don't need animal slaves. They are killing Britain

    So if we ban cats, dogs and Glasto we should be better off for mayflies, tadpoles and so on.
    YES. People that insist on owning cats and dogs are pathetic social losers. There is no reason for it, it is pure selfishness, with every day that passes this becomes more apparent. You do not need a dog slave, shitting the fuck out of the world, you do not need a cat slave, killing all the songbirds in the nation. Essentially, they should be forbidden, until that moment, they should be very very heavily taxed
    Yep, you and Donald Trump don't like pets. Figures.
    You are an absolute hypocrite, and you have a pet dog or cat, I am guessing? Figures

    No one can own a pet dog or cat and pretend to care about the environment
    You are being rather Leon about yet another topic. It’s possible to do both, of course it is. Life is about choices. You choose to travel all over the planet using fossil fuels. Don’t lecture others on their lifestyle choices.
    I am not a hypocrite, I accept my lifestyle imposes on the environment so I offset it with fees, and I have the smallest possible home, and no car, and so on

    What sticks in the craw is the preachy Green lefties, especially on here, who wank on and on and yet they keep dogs and cats which is just about the worst thing you can do for Britain's strained ecosystem. This latest revelation that vet medicines poison our rivers merely adds to that argument, and their evil

    KILL YOUR PETS, YOU HYPOCRITES
    The real worst thing you can do? Be alive. Humans are ruining the environment, so the real answer, sadly, is fewer humans. You’ve had two kids. Two humans out there ruining the environment.

    Of course I am being provocative, but the thing is, dog owners and cat owners don't even admit there is a problem, do they? They won't even acknowledge it? Not a shred of guilt, not a scintilla of remorse, even as they devastate the environment

    Fuck them. And it's not like dog owning or cat owning is essential (unlike, say, travel) for all but a few people with working dogs, it is a frivolous choice. And it is an evil selfish choice, to my mind, and one that should shame the chooser

    Eventually, the world will realise this, until then we have to put up with these selfish fucks and their ludicrous "pets"
    Most pet owners probably do realise that there are issues, just as there are with human medicines entering the water courses. They also tend to regard pets as part of the family. If you don’t feel that way about pets, you will never understand.
    I completely understand. I grew up in a pet-owning family, and I GREW OUT OF IT, when I realised it is quite perverse, keeping live animals as weird neutered slaves, solely for amusement, to make up for some creepy social deficit in the owner

    Honestly, in about 100 years we will look back on pet-owning - and, to be fair, meat-eating of slaughtered sentient creatures - the way we look back on human slavery now
    It's an interesting discussion, but going off on a tangent you were critical of roger the other day for not knowing a story, and worse you were rude, having listed out a whole pile of events, because I admitted to not knowing all of them, but did know most, yet you had no idea about the isse of dog flea treatment impacting river insects which has been reported umpteen times over the years.

    See it is true, contrary to popular belief PB posters, including you don't know everything.
    The other day I was watching a movie with a friend, full of the most implausible shit, shape-shifting monsters etc and at one point she said 'that's ridiculous - her hair would be all messed up by now, totally unrealistic!'
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,186
    ydoethur said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Leon would have to be careful though. Imagine if he got a Labrador. He'd be sitting up all night worrying that there might be a Lab leak.
    A bit lab-oured
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,321
    kamski said:

    ydoethur said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Leon would have to be careful though. Imagine if he got a Labrador. He'd be sitting up all night worrying that there might be a Lab leak.
    A bit lab-oured
    Really? I thought it was Golden.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,563

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Dogs aren't slaves, it's very much a two way relationship between humans and dogs, and one of the most durable in human history. That's probably why @Leon doesn't get it.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,007
    rkrkrk said:

    Nigelb said:

    General Election Poll - North Carolina

    🔵 Harris 46%
    🔴 Trump 46%

    YouGov #A (🔵) - 802 RV - 8/9


    https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1822670019316142577

    Harris at 2.6 on betfair to take NC - I think that's value.
    Problem is, there's only 70-odd quid available at that price...
    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.230123393

    Trump took it by 1.35% in 2020.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Results_by_state

    So Kamala is doing around 1% better than Biden did in 2020
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,926
    rkrkrk said:

    Nigelb said:

    General Election Poll - North Carolina

    🔵 Harris 46%
    🔴 Trump 46%

    YouGov #A (🔵) - 802 RV - 8/9


    https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1822670019316142577

    Harris at 2.6 on betfair to take NC - I think that's value.
    On at 2.7, but only a few quid.
    It's possible that state markets never offer decent odds in volume. Even those who think Trump might win are going to be chary of building significant short positions at long odds.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,926
    Foxy said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Dogs aren't slaves, it's very much a two way relationship between humans and dogs, and one of the most durable in human history. That's probably why @Leon doesn't get it.
    On the contrary - he's an archetypal rover.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,755
    Interesting spin on why Trump is holding so few rallies: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/11/2262167/-Deadbeat-Don-Why-He-s-Not-Holding-Rallies?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

    Basically, he left a strew of unpaid bills across the country in 2016 and 2020 and very few towns will allow him to hold one without paying all the clean up costs up front because he doesn't pay his bills.

    Of course he was also famous for not paying his lawyers bills (a truly shocking flaw) but he now needs them much more than they need him so they are getting the priority on available cash.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,321
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Dogs aren't slaves, it's very much a two way relationship between humans and dogs, and one of the most durable in human history. That's probably why @Leon doesn't get it.
    On the contrary - he's an archetypal rover.
    In response to an interview question, “What is a great lover?” the Actor Ricardo Montalban, famously replied, “A great lover is someone who can satisfy one woman her entire lifetime and be satisfied with one woman his entire lifetime. It is not someone who goes from woman to woman; any dog can do that.”

    And he was married to the same woman for 63 years.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,498

    NEW THREAD

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,282
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    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    It's absolutely ridiculous. You cannot escape dogs now.

    And, in our culture, if you don't particularly care for dogs that's your problem.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,282
    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    They definitely do, and certainly more than other people's children.

    It's fundamentally misanthropic: we see children as little adults in the making (who we also don't like) and would prefer not to deal with.

    No other European country seems to have this problem.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,472
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Genuinely think there is a potential anti pet movement out there waiting to coalesce. Particularly since the pandemic, pets have encroached on what were human only spaces.

    We have dog friendly cafes and restaurants. Near me there is a normal swimming pool with a dog friendly day.

    But the English love their pets. Perhaps more than they love their children.

    The English have always loved pets but I feel the obsession with dogs in particular is perhaps starting to go a bit far. On my street nearly everyone seems to have acquired a dog since the pandemic, and most of the cats have disappeared. And I prefer cats to dogs.
    Two friends of mine, been going out for 10 years (now married), feel subsequently mature and financially secure enough to... consider having a dog.

    I would have a cat in an instant but they constantly go missing in a city. What you want is one of these hardy town cats that fight foxes, wait at zebra crossings and have a 5 mile range with 16 different owners.
    We have had a dog for the past 6 months. First time ever. I never wanted one, but Wor Lass was desperate for a dog. Arrived as a 2 month old puppy.

    This morning, dog started barking at 6.15 when our Riverford delivery arrived and wouldn't stop. So I had to get up. Me now up, dog fast asleep.

    Don't get a dog!!!

    But once you do, it is too late. You love them to bits, and couldn't be without them.
    Dogs aren't slaves, it's very much a two way relationship between humans and dogs, and one of the most durable in human history. That's probably why @Leon doesn't get it.
    On the contrary - he's an archetypal rover.
    In response to an interview question, “What is a great lover?” the Actor Ricardo Montalban, famously replied, “A great lover is someone who can satisfy one woman her entire lifetime and be satisfied with one woman his entire lifetime. It is not someone who goes from woman to woman; any dog can do that.”

    And he was married to the same woman for 63 years.
    On the Internet, nobody knows SeanT is a dog... ;)
  • eekeek Posts: 28,268
    edited August 12
    Grr wrong thread.
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