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Why being English is a bad sign – politicalbetting.com
Why being English is a bad sign – politicalbetting.com
And as the share of people intending to vote for smaller parties has shrunk over the last year, the "third" parties that people have chosen have more-or-less lined up with their English identity pic.twitter.com/2AiiNT4P3x
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Riddle me this PB - If the election ends up something like:
Lab 250
Lib 70
Con 65
Ref 15
Do Con and Ref merge so the Right can hang on to official opposition status? But if they do merge would some Con MP's quit and join the Lib-Dems?
The days after the election could be somewhat fraught..
Any takers?
Pollsters are known to stagger their releases.
Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
I have just been invited to appear on Laura Kuenssberg.
I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest QT audience.
Our state broadcaster has behaved like a political actor throughout this election.
Reform will be campaigning vigorously to abolish the license fee.
Why would the 65 Tory MPs accept Farage as leader?
I totally despite the vile Putinist racists of Reform as do most other English, not British, people on that survey.
Most Conservatives still voting Conservative on this site despite Farage and won't vote for him. I'd hope at least 6 of the surviving Tory MPs would think the same which is all it would take to defect to the Lib Dems on those numbers (assuming Lab and others make up the missing MPs).
1. Introduce a flat tax to replace ALL current taxes (NI/VAT/CGT/Council Tax/ULEZ/fuel tax/ved/“apprenticeship levy”/sugar tax/sin taxes, the lot). Save BILLIONS on bureaucracy and let people. Show how much tax People are really paying !
2 Privatise the BBC, channel 4, post office, Transport for London, national rail, public owned museums/galleries/british library, libraries etc. Not what the govt should be doing !
3. Policy of gov outsourcing as much ans possible and reform to ensure bidding and competition and more efficient quicker procurement. Esp councils !!
4. Long term goal to remove ALL state subsidies on transport, higher education, Hollywood “tax credits” and similar bs.
5. Reform planning and building regulations to remove almost all restrictions. Remove listed buildings, “area of natural beauty”, grrenbelt and similar bs to allow easier demolition and building. Have a decade of national renewal ! New mass housing, wind farms, building new transport eithout govt getting in the way
6. Bonfire of red tape. Reform licensing housing and street trading laws. Look at “all will” employment for both employees and employers to improve job flexibility by making it easier to hire and move jobs to create growth
Prob more but that’s where I’d start
BBC: asks Nigel Farage questions
Nigel Farage: "NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"
I am *sure* there would be at least one Conservative MP who had the moral fibre not to cave to whatever demands Farage would make for that deal, and be unable to sit with them on the opposition benches.
Con and Ref merge to stop Libs being official opposition to Lab government. Farage become LOTO.
BUT...
Some Con MPs quit for Lib-Dems, so Libs still become official Opposition.
With the polling we're seeing this scenario has got to be a possibility after the election?
My guess: The speaker will judge who is LOTO on the basis of the number of unambiguous firm commitments from MPs to a party; party meaning a party that stood candidates in the election. This will happen and be judged on day 1 of parliament sitting. The speaker will take final soundings from Davey and ?Rishi the evening before.
So there will be a few days for horsetrading with a chance to switch loyalties. They won't be dull
Other guesses: The LDs and centrist Tories will work together to ensure that Reform are no part of HMLO.
Only certainty: Tim Shipman will write a book about it. Matt cartoons will be brilliant. Like this classic:
https://telegraph.newsprints.co.uk/37507349-matt-cartoon-university-i-m-studying-politics-the-course-covers-the-period-from-8am-on-thursday-to-lunchtime-on-friday/
I am a Londoner in England
From Camden in London
I am English in the rest of the UK, Europe and the Commonwealth.
British everywhere else.
Except in the US, where I am European.
But if I'm asked where I am from I always say England. I guess that makes me English most of all.
Teal is blue-and-green: Cameron's lot.
I know you don’t much care for me (under statement
You can travel all over the world but the British Isles still have a huge amount to offer.
Plenty of polling to suggest that the people actually voting Labour are least bothered about immigration.
People who are overly concerned by small boats are not voting Labour in significant numbers.
The number of people coming by boats isn't huge, and if they came in a different way, it's unlikely they'd even be noticed.
So, tell me, why would it be such a big problem for Labour?
I am also enthusiastically and patriotically Stopfordian, Greater Mancunian, Cestrian, North Western and Northern.
It requires the Tories to have a shocker and it requires Reform to grab a fair few seats and a lot of second places.
I could see a scenario where it is advantageous for each party to maintain its separate identity/voter base but caucus together and build a voter coalition, reaching parts the other cannot. It would be a fundamental reshaping of the UK political landscape but if the Tories fall below 100 seats we cannot rule out such radical moves.
Sorry @Farooq
😞
Stop triangulating.
Or do a U-turn - that is, 180 degrees.
But that makes it intensely charming and laid back. And the coast is magnificent
The chance of Lib-Dems becoming the official Opposition is also being underestimated IMO.
It explains a lot.
Not sure if there is a contradiction here or which if either is more likely to be wrong. is there value in opposing Cons in some of those seats? or is winning 96 more trustworthy?
Interesting Poll.
Fwiw I think the polling and mrps are a fair few London seats short on the Tories, I think they'll hold at least 10 in the capital but 100 is a bit of a toss up
Not really going to change much at this points, campaigns usually do not, but indicates he knows they are not as strong as they would like to project.
He got 15% here in Norwich South in 2010
Of the manifestos I've read only the SDP one got into issues like an English Parliament, IIRC>
Their manifesto was trying a bit too hard to persuade otherwise, but most chapters being headed about X being fairer and greener. Fairer greener farming, fairer greener education, fairer greener social support. Some of it probably was, but it was a bit over the top.
British just seems to fit better than English.
There are also a lot of newer number plates with the country identifier on them, so they wouldn't need a sticker.
The government has replaced the GB identifier with UK on car stickers.
If your license plate shows GB, you need to use a UK sticker.
If your plate shows the UK identifier or a Union Flag, no additional sticker is needed
It's a bit like Reform and immigration. The party might wasn't to talk of only one thing, but it will get asked about other things.
The most powerful and the most most dangerous of the Norman baronage, he was also the most repellant in character. In a society of ruffianly, bloodthirsty men, Robert de Belleme stands out as particularly atrocious; an evil, treacherous man with an insatiable ambition and a love of cruelty for cruelty's sake; a medieval sadist, whose ingenious barbarities were proverbal among the people of that time.
Sounds like a real go getter, I think a descendant might be standing for Reform somewhere in East Anglia.
Not always though, thinking of the likes of Stalin or Mao.
Yes, there’s been a change. A GB sticker is now non compliant.
It might have been reading the audience though, as some other candidate started on immigration early on and there was quite a bit of groaning heckling, so he might have just pivoted.
Soz but I've polluted the white British line.
Also, I studied this era of history for my A levels. I think this story of William’s corpse is a bit of an urban myth, told by the many people who he conquered (who did, it is fair to say, have a very good reason to hate my grandpa)