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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227

    ToryJim said:

    How is Sunak so crap? Is it the wealth that insulates him from reality?

    It could be that he’s deliberately trying to get the Tories massacred.
    You have to start to wonder if he is a Labour plant. Literally who goes to D-Day event with all the world leaders and goes sorry lads I'm off early for an ITV News interview. Its not the opening of an Iceland in your constituency.
    Not Sunak but you do wonder if some of his advisers are. Mind you, if they were and it came out that could be terrible for Labour.
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    BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 19,614
    Scott_xP said:

    We can now see why Tory members wanted Truss over Richi

    Truss voters today.

    image
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    FarooqFarooq Posts: 12,188
    Yup, definitely "just having fun" :lol:
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,420

    https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/1798805050397237654?s=46

    Tory MP texts tonight in total disgust about PM leaving the D Day commemorations early. Said when they saw the picture of Cameron with the other world leaders at the ceremony, they initially thought the BBC had chosen the wrong picture.

    The guy is a walking campaign disaster. Jeez.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 57,334
    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Ask @Scott_P about his childishness, not me.

    OGH rightly called out the OESI in 2010, and this tedious and juvenile behaviour needs to be called out now.
    Mate, Just ignore it. He’s the sort of tedious prick who will do it all the more when he knows it gets under your skin.
    I've had beer. Quite fun, really.

    This is like the brawl outside the pub shortly before everyone goes home.

    Next, I will order a stunningly disappointed doner kebab and then chunder all over Scott's mums petunia bed and take a slash in his letterbox.

    Sleep tight.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 78,088
    edited June 6

    ToryJim said:

    How is Sunak so crap? Is it the wealth that insulates him from reality?

    It could be that he’s deliberately trying to get the Tories massacred.
    You have to start to wonder if he is a Labour plant. Literally who goes to D-Day event with all the world leaders and goes sorry lads I'm off early for an ITV News interview. Its not the opening of an Iceland in your constituency.
    Not Sunak but you do wonder if some of his advisers are. Mind you, if they were and it came out that could be terrible for Labour.
    I am obviously joking. But again it shows just how totally useless at politics, well its more than that, Sunak is. Literally how can you not work out that forget GE etc, its your job to be there and glad hand with world leaders. Its not even about nice photos or brownie points, its literally your job as PM to represent the country.

    There are lots of negative things you can say about Cameron time in office, but he knew how to behave on the world stage. After Boris and Corbyn, where it wasn't even certain they could properly dress themselves at any of these events, Sunak was supposed to be a return to a certain level of normal.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,202
    AlsoLei said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @implausibleblog
    Wow! #BBCQT

    Mark Harper repeats Rishi Sunak's lie about the £2,000 Labour tax

    Fiona Bruce calls him out on it

    Mark Harper doubles down

    Fiona Bruce reads out the letter

    Mark Harper triples down on it

    Shabana Mahmood jumps in and calls him out

    Look at Mark Harpers face - he knows he's telling lies and yet he carries on, Shameful

    That's the point that MoonRabbit's been making: Rishi told those lies and refused to back down - so now senior Tories are stuck having to repeat them too if they don't want the story to suddenly become one of "Tory splits".

    And it's going to get worse and worse for them every time the lies are repeated.

    They really should have climbed down yesterday while it was still just about possible to do so, and relied on the £2000 figure sticking in people's minds.
    I agree with your post. 🥰 Except the bit about Tories ever had the chance to avoid this mess, once Rishi had firmly lead with it.

    And it’s not just the 2K Lie - every Conservative has to hold the line on boat crossings are down, waiting lists are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, over and over till election day, as these answers are now the actual spine of the Conservative campaign. 🫣

    And with the 2K Lie, the fact the Civil Service immediately called Rishi a liar is the take out from it this week, but far more damaging in long run is those 12yr old SPADs whose never had to work for a living in their lives who created this, only got it to up to 2K figure by only working families paying for it, totally ignoring the rest of the tax system and how it works to fund Tory pledges. The spectator piece leapt on this part of the madness straightaway, because the daftness of saying that was visible from space. It’s dragged in “how much do all these Tory pledge's cost in the fantasy world just a subset of tax payers pay them”.

    Sure there is lies and spin at elections, and the best of campaigns work and are legendary, but it has to be more sophisticated and subtle than something that instantly falls apart, into this “properly taking voters as mugs with your never ending lies” narrative in just 24hrs!

    If Cummings clever £350M “gross on a bus” is Grad A version how to do it, this was more like D minus.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,181
    Just booked the cricket on the 5th. Big group of us going to celebrate the events of the prior evening.
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    pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,491

    Scott_xP said:

    We can now see why Tory members wanted Truss over Richi

    Truss voters today.

    image
    Shadow Chancellor after Suella wins the leadership election. You can see it happening. If they both hold their seats. And if the Conservatives are still the second largest party.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 46,068
    Foxy said:

    Casino - giv

    So in Leicester East we have Vaz and Webbe as indies. Could be interesting!

    Andy_JS said:

    So in Leicester East we have Vaz and Webbe as indies. Could be interesting!

    Definitely worth a bet on the Tories imo. If there's one English seat they gain, this'll be it.
    Absolutely no chance
    Not quite no chance but there has been such weird and opaque politics in that constituency that anything is possible.

    Not just in the Labour Party either, the Conservatives had feuding issues too:

    https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/leicester-councillor-suspended-party-after-9189720?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

    I think Keith Vaz is running for the OneLeicesterParty, a breakaway group of former Labour councillors.
    OneLeicester got 7 000 votes in our recent PCC election, about 4% of votes cast, so not a big vote, but not Vaz name either.
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    Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 7,947

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Tonight?
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    @KevinASchofield

    Currently unclear when this interview took place.

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth - did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 16,651

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Four weeks and thirty minutes until the exit poll, and he knows he has to vote for the loser Rishi Sunak in an attempt to stop the first Labour general election victory in 19 years. I can understand it being a bit disagreeable.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151

    ToryJim said:

    How is Sunak so crap? Is it the wealth that insulates him from reality?

    It could be that he’s deliberately trying to get the Tories massacred.
    You have to start to wonder if he is a Labour plant. Literally who goes to D-Day event with all the world leaders and goes sorry lads I'm off early for an ITV News interview. Its not the opening of an Iceland in your constituency.
    Not Sunak but you do wonder if some of his advisers are. Mind you, if they were and it came out that could be terrible for Labour.
    I am obviously joking. But again it shows just how totally useless at politics, well its more than that, Sunak is. Literally how can you not work out that forget GE etc, its your job to be there and glad hand with world leaders. Its not even about nice photos or brownie points, its literally your job as PM to represent the country.

    There are lots of negative things you can say about Cameron time in office, but he knew how to behave on the world stage. After Boris and Corbyn, where it wasn't even certain they could properly dress themselves at any of these events, Sunak was supposed to be a return to a certain level of normal.
    TBF isn't it HMtK's job?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 78,088
    Seems like it is a bit like this on here tonight,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8q9-M7GTU
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,202

    Scott_xP said:

    @implausibleblog
    Wow! #BBCQT

    Mark Harper repeats Rishi Sunak's lie about the £2,000 Labour tax

    Fiona Bruce calls him out on it

    Mark Harper doubles down

    Fiona Bruce reads out the letter

    Mark Harper triples down on it

    Shabana Mahmood jumps in and calls him out

    Look at Mark Harpers face - he knows he's telling lies and yet he carries on, Shameful

    No-one gives a fuck if the £2,000 tax claim is "shameful".

    We all know Labour will raise your taxes after the election, and we haven't a clue how much.

    This is if anything an understatement.
    “No-one gives a fuck if the £2,000 tax claim is "shameful".”

    Everyone wanting the Conservatives to do well should give a fuck, that this most hapless of campaigns has so quickly descended into “same old Tories, always lying” as the main narrative.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151

    Seems like it is a bit like this on here tonight,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8q9-M7GTU

    Indeed, some of us feel like the chaps trying to enjoy their pint in the corner.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Tonight?
    Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s high on coke, crack, or meth. Kind of goes with the over-agitated and aggressive behaviour.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 15,381
    Scott_xP said:

    @KevinASchofield

    Currently unclear when this interview took place.

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth - did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”

    And having seen the clip...

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1798803538459627734

    ... that's not the tone of a man who is confident about what he's saying.

    And somehow, he's got to keep it together for another four weeks. It's not obvious to me that he can.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    Richi is such a tiny, tiny man.

    I thought BoZo was an embarrassment.

    This is somehow worse.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,308

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Ask @Scott_P about his childishness, not me.

    OGH rightly called out the OESI in 2010, and this tedious and juvenile behaviour needs to be called out now.
    Mate, Just ignore it. He’s the sort of tedious prick who will do it all the more when he knows it gets under your skin.
    I've had beer. Quite fun, really.

    This is like the brawl outside the pub shortly before everyone goes home.

    Next, I will order a stunningly disappointed doner kebab and then chunder all over Scott's mums petunia bed and take a slash in his letterbox.

    Sleep tight.
    Comedy. Tough gig.
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    FarooqFarooq Posts: 12,188
    Heathener said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Tonight?
    Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s high on coke, crack, or meth. Kind of goes with the over-agitated and aggressive behaviour.
    coke occurred to me too
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559

    ... that's not the tone of a man who is confident about what he's saying.

    And somehow, he's got to keep it together for another four weeks. It's not obvious to me that he can.

    For some reason he is committed to the lie.

    And every time he says it, Labour will call him a liar.

    For the next 4 weeks.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    And this is the clip

    @johnestevens

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth: did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,046
    Dura_Ace said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Ask @Scott_P about his childishness, not me.

    OGH rightly called out the OESI in 2010, and this tedious and juvenile behaviour needs to be called out now.
    Mate, Just ignore it. He’s the sort of tedious prick who will do it all the more when he knows it gets under your skin.
    I've had beer. Quite fun, really.

    This is like the brawl outside the pub shortly before everyone goes home.

    Next, I will order a stunningly disappointed doner kebab and then chunder all over Scott's mums petunia bed and take a slash in his letterbox.

    Sleep tight.
    Comedy. Tough gig.
    Yes. You’ve mentioned that before.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,420
    Sunak is a campaign disaster zone.

    Leaving D Day early.

    Beyond words.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 46,068

    Scott_xP said:

    @KevinASchofield

    Currently unclear when this interview took place.

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth - did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”

    And having seen the clip...

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1798803538459627734

    ... that's not the tone of a man who is confident about what he's saying.

    And somehow, he's got to keep it together for another four weeks. It's not obvious to me that he can.
    Not a good look. Like a cornered Roland.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 15,381
    Scott_xP said:

    Richi is such a tiny, tiny man.

    I thought BoZo was an embarrassment.

    This is somehow worse.

    Bozza was, and is, a bad man. One example of his malignancy is that he catapulted Truss and Sunak to the front of the line of succession.

    Cruel to the country, cruel to the party, but also cruel to Liz and Rishi. Because neither of them was up to the job.
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    DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 986
    edited June 6

    Scott_xP said:

    @KevinASchofield

    Currently unclear when this interview took place.

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth - did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”

    And having seen the clip...

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1798803538459627734

    ... that's not the tone of a man who is confident about what he's saying.

    And somehow, he's got to keep it together for another four weeks. It's not obvious to me that he can.
    Has anyone seen Casino and Sunak in the same room? Kids in private school, going to leave the country if Labour win, probably very short in stature.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 19,300

    Namecheck for our very own @RochdalePioneers on Sophy Ridge tonight - because they are covering the “mess” in the Aberdeenshire seat

    What’s the betting for the seat? I’ve just had a quick glance and it looks a certain SNP gain.

    As Duguid the outgoing MP would be a constituent, I wonder if rival candidate should visit with a get well soon card and gift? If news of that got in the local press, it would lift their profile and come across as decent and human and neighbourly?
    We're all wishing him well. He's a thoroughly decent human being. Not a voter though, boundary changes means he lives in Gordon and Buchan
    Are you going to the Portsoy boat festival?
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,046
    Listening to my friends at the pub tonight…the election didn’t come up. Have some interesting manscaping anecdotes though.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151
    edited June 6
    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 46,068
    edited June 6


    I don't think Webbe has any real support, mostly standing so she gets redundancy money.
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    SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 6,733
    DougSeal said:

    Listening to my friends at the pub tonight…the election didn’t come up. Have some interesting manscaping anecdotes though.

    How did you find out about Ed Davey's stunt for tomorrow?
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,185

    Heathener said:

    HYUFD said:

    I see tonight's Survation has the Tories cutting Labour's lead by 3% and still 8% ahead of Reform
    https://x.com/Survation/status/1798751741057409248

    And leading to a Labour majority of 326, according to Electoral Calculus

    Labour very very easily lose their majority next time.
    If they win a majority over 150 it’s electorally very unlikely, however much you might wish otherwise.

    Remember, the current majority was c. 80.

    Anything over 100 usually takes two bites and that’s even if your reputation hasn’t been trashed and you haven’t got a divided Right.

    You told me to brace but I think it’s you that might need to do that. You’re going to be out of power for at least 9 years, possibly more.
    You haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about.

    But it's kind of cute, in a way.
    Why so angry? It's unnecessary.
    CR has a right to be angry as hell. Just NOT at you
    Who says I'm angry?

    I might just be having fun.
    Too Much Fun - Daryle Singletary
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novnfBYMBIk
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 15,381
    DM_Andy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @KevinASchofield

    Currently unclear when this interview took place.

    Labour source: “Rishi Sunak should tell the truth - did he skip the D Day commemorations this afternoon to try and convince people he’s not a liar?”

    And having seen the clip...

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1798803538459627734

    ... that's not the tone of a man who is confident about what he's saying.

    And somehow, he's got to keep it together for another four weeks. It's not obvious to me that he can.
    Has anyone seen Casino and Sunak in the same room? Kids in private school, going to leave the country if Labour win, probably very short in stature.
    Has any losing campaign ever descended into shouting "You stupid bloody loonies" at the electorate? Not at the sneery whispers on social media level, but full-on official loud rage? Might be a suitably awful way for things to end.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,232
    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    Were you just at the pub with @DougSeal?
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151
    edited June 6

    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    Were you just at the pub with @DougSeal?
    Not manscaping or mansplaining (not that our resident pinniped was doing the latter, obvs).
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    tyson said:

    Heathener said:

    HYUFD said:

    I see tonight's Survation has the Tories cutting Labour's lead by 3% and still 8% ahead of Reform
    https://x.com/Survation/status/1798751741057409248

    And leading to a Labour majority of 326, according to Electoral Calculus

    Labour very very easily lose their majority next time.
    If they win a majority over 150 it’s electorally very unlikely, however much you might wish otherwise.

    Remember, the current majority was c. 80.

    Anything over 100 usually takes two bites and that’s even if your reputation hasn’t been trashed and you haven’t got a divided Right.

    You told me to brace but I think it’s you that might need to do that. You’re going to be out of power for at least 9 years, possibly more.
    You haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about.

    But it's kind of cute, in a way.
    Why so angry? It's unnecessary.
    CR has a right to be angry as hell. Just NOT at you
    Who says I'm angry?

    I might just be having fun.
    Frankly you come over as a complete dick
    And what party does he support?
    I'd be mean to say it goes with the territory, but it doesn't. Hyfud, Boris's Johnson's biggest cheerleader and number one Tory fan is always impeccably polite.
    Indeed. @Big_G_NorthWales is another who I have always found to be really lovely.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    @JoeBiden

    History tells us that freedom is not free.

    If you want to know the price of freedom, come here to Normandy, or other cemeteries where our fallen heroes rest.

    The price of unchecked tyranny is the blood of the young and the brave.







    and don't fuck off early in your private helicopter to whine about being called out as a liar
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    FarooqFarooq Posts: 12,188
    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I bought and used a powerful laser. Now, he can no longer see my pubic hair and I'm much happier.
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    FarooqFarooq Posts: 12,188
    edited June 6
    delete, accidental duplicate
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,659
    Major attack on Odessa as I write
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,659
    Explosions and AA fire
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,986

    Sensational win for the USA cricket team. Disaster for Ladbrokes.

    Reviewing the line-up it largely looks like Pakistan diaspora v. Pakistan to me.
    Once upon a time I used to play for a pub cricket team that went each year to play a game in some foreign field - Cuba, Italy, Vietnam, any non-cricketing country that would have us. It was huge fun, but rather disappointingly the opposition invariably consisted of the India/Pakistan diaspora.

    And they invariably won.
    A friend of mine did a post doc in Canada and played cricket while there. The team was nine from the Caribbean, one Aussie and my mate (from Bury). Played on coconut mats on concrete, with an outfield so long anything hit along the ground went about a yard.
    Great fun.

    Another friend played when in Glasgow. Many were of Pakistani background, sadly for my friend who views cricket in much the same way I do - a thirst generator pre pub…
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 46,068
    Farooq said:

    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I bought and used a powerful laser. Now, he can no longer see my pubic hair and I'm much happier.
    It's worth getting to the end of the article. Bush is back.
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,183
    Conversation between King Charles and SKS overheard. Interesting revelation.

    https://x.com/generalboles/status/1798811693604048971?s=61
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,659
    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,183

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Ask @Scott_P about his childishness, not me.

    OGH rightly called out the OESI in 2010, and this tedious and juvenile behaviour needs to be called out now.
    Mate, Just ignore it. He’s the sort of tedious prick who will do it all the more when he knows it gets under your skin.
    I've had beer. Quite fun, really.

    This is like the brawl outside the pub shortly before everyone goes home.

    Next, I will order a stunningly disappointed doner kebab and then chunder all over Scott's mums petunia bed and take a slash in his letterbox.

    Sleep tight.
    The best thing about the kebab is the half you don’t eat will ne there for breakfast in the morning and all the fat will have solidified inside the pitta
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,420
    Leon said:

    Major attack on Odessa as I write

    Keep safe.
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    AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,777
    Scott_xP said:

    Richi is such a tiny, tiny man.

    I thought BoZo was an embarrassment.

    This is somehow worse.

    I'm no fan of his, but Boris would actually have been better in this scenario. Just like he would have done better when Liz died, and Truss had to speak unto the nation. He's a photo op/sound bite guy. He's no good at the actual jobs he does, though.
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    FffsFffs Posts: 50
    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Good call. You've never felt truly alive until you've had a wank during an air raid.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,202
    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Where’s the Carry On Up The Khyber sprit 😠
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,659
    Fffs said:

    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Good call. You've never felt truly alive until you've had a wank during an air raid.
    Actually not a bad idea
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,608
    viewcode said:

    Pagan2 said:

    ...There is new zealand where apple flavoured horse semen is 20$ a shot...

    Pause

    Pause

    What??????
    I guess it saves the poor stallions having to put up with blow jobs.

    (Perish that thought :-)
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,200

    https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/1798805050397237654?s=46

    Tory MP texts tonight in total disgust about PM leaving the D Day commemorations early. Said when they saw the picture of Cameron with the other world leaders at the ceremony, they initially thought the BBC had chosen the wrong picture.

    We've been wondering if (/when) we'd see open warfare break out between Rishi and the CCHQ campaign team on one side, and the rest of the party on the other.

    Farage has provided the kindling, Rishi's tax lies are surely good tinder - perhaps the abandonment of D-Day will be the spark that catches fire?
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    Taz said:

    The best thing about the kebab is the half you don’t eat will ne there for breakfast in the morning and all the fat will have solidified inside the pitta

    The sober kebab.

    Sad...
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,645
    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Be careful with the clippers.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,308
    Taz said:

    Conversation between King Charles and SKS overheard. Interesting revelation.

    https://x.com/generalboles/status/1798811693604048971?s=61

    And then mummy called Harry's wife a negress. It's been absolute bedlam ever since.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,420
    Labour manifesto next Thursday.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,645
    Leon said:

    Fffs said:

    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Good call. You've never felt truly alive until you've had a wank during an air raid.
    Actually not a bad idea
    For a Speccie headline ?
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    edited June 6
    Foxy said:

    Farooq said:

    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I bought and used a powerful laser. Now, he can no longer see my pubic hair and I'm much happier.
    It's worth getting to the end of the article. Bush is back.
    GW or GH? The latter would be a surprising twist.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151
    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Pagan2 said:

    ...There is new zealand where apple flavoured horse semen is 20$ a shot...

    Pause

    Pause

    What??????
    I guess it saves the poor stallions having to put up with blow jobs.

    (Perish that thought :-)
    I hope it's pasteurised. The scope for trans-species hopping of infectious diseases ...
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,559
    I return to a comment from earlier today.

    Peter Mandelson suggested the party should seriously consider binning Richi before the election

    The events of today demonstrate why
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    DopermeanDopermean Posts: 55

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi is such a tiny, tiny man.

    I thought BoZo was an embarrassment.

    This is somehow worse.

    Bozza was, and is, a bad man. One example of his malignancy is that he catapulted Truss and Sunak to the front of the line of succession.

    Cruel to the country, cruel to the party, but also cruel to Liz and Rishi. Because neither of them was up to the job.
    Post 2019 GE which Conservative MP was? He'd driven out experienced rivals but the MPs never mind the members, weren't going to select Phillip Hammond or any other reasonable, experienced figure.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,295
    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    Have you put your pubic-hair.com forum post here by mistake? What valuable betting tips did you give them about the election in its place?
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 41,151
    biggles said:

    Carnyx said:

    Surprised PB doesn't seem to have commented on this: how the other half (and a bit more) live, sometimes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/article/2024/jun/05/pubic-hair-grooming

    One does sympathise re the social (and other) pressures:

    'When he expressed a preference for a mannequin-smooth pubic mound, I booked six permanent laser-hair removal sessions on the spot. Now, I wish I hadn’t. I wish I’d leaned into that friction, let myself feel uncomfortable and unattractive, and questioned what this request might mean for our future. Would he have other ideas about how I should look? (He did.) Would I be willing to compromise my body for those preferences, too? (I wasn’t.)

    Sometime post-divorce, my pubic hair grew back.'

    Have you put your pubic-hair.com forum post here by mistake? What valuable betting tips did you give them about the election in its place?
    Well, it is PB, this site, isn't it?
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,295
    Fffs said:

    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Good call. You've never felt truly alive until you've had a wank during an air raid.
    That’s in the first volume of Churchill’s War Diaries isn’t it?
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    Techne poll just out
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227

    Labour manifesto next Thursday.

    Surprised they don't publish on the 12th to scotch Sunak's 'no plans' jibe in the Sky debate.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,659
    Can we post vids on here? I’d show you what it’s like if we can
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,183
    Heathener said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi flew back from Normandy to give a TV interview to once again repeat his lies.

    He deserves everything that's coming...

    You've been told multiple times to stop the "Richi" stuff.

    Grow up.
    What on Earth has got into you tonight?
    Tonight?
    Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s high on coke, crack, or meth. Kind of goes with the over-agitated and aggressive behaviour.
    A few beers it seems.

    Remember that old soak Ishmael used to get more and more aggressive and abusive as the day wore on and he worked his way through his latest case from Laithwaites.

    Must have such a happy existence 😢

    Didn’t CR (as opposed to CR7) offer a few people out the last time this happened 😂

    Booze and online debating don’t mix. Only times I’ve ever been banned anywhere online was arguing when drunk.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    Leon said:

    Can we post vids on here? I’d show you what it’s like if we can

    Stick it on Youtube and post a link
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    edited June 6
    Heathener said:

    Techne poll just out

    Grrr what use is that? Either give us a link or the numbers please

    Edit - thanks!
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,295

    Leon said:

    Can we post vids on here? I’d show you what it’s like if we can

    Stick it on Youtube and post a link
    Sod that! Get some cash off Sky News as their man on the spot.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    There you go @Benpointer

    I can be a right tease ;)

    xx
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,185
    rcs1000 said:

    Setting aside politics for today, this 80th anniversary of D-Day has for me been a sombre day of reflection.

    My wife works in a care home and at the 75th anniversary of VE Day there were WWII veterans there retelling their stories about the war. Today there is not, they've all passed away and the only people there today who remember the war now were children at the time.

    My grandad was 15 when the war ended so was in school during the war and would tell us very few stories about it, more about his national service which followed after the war in Malaysia. He passed away earlier this year, age 94.

    Its strange to think that when I was a child in the 80s and 90s we still had some WWI veterans attending memorials. Today the WWII veterans and even the people who remember WWII as children at the time are passing away.

    I find it quite sombre, especially with this being the first memorial my grandad isn't around for, but it makes it all the more important that we keep the memories and understanding alive. At times of memorials we tend to say "lest we forget" - but it is starting to be forgotten and fading into history which is a concern.

    Thank you to all those who made the ultimate sacrifice 80 years ago so we can be free. We must never forget them, nor what they fought for and why.

    One of my investors was a marine who was on the beaches in the invasion of Okinawa. He's 98 years old. And - lucky bastard - he still leads a very full and active life. (He still goes into the office each day.)

    There aren't many like him left, and the number will be dropping every year.
    Correction: not "was" a Marine, rather "is" a Marine.

    At least that's the default for USMC veterans.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,646
    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Richi is such a tiny, tiny man.

    I thought BoZo was an embarrassment.

    This is somehow worse.

    Bozza was, and is, a bad man. One example of his malignancy is that he catapulted Truss and Sunak to the front of the line of succession.

    Cruel to the country, cruel to the party, but also cruel to Liz and Rishi. Because neither of them was up to the job.
    Post 2019 GE which Conservative MP was? He'd driven out experienced rivals but the MPs never mind the members, weren't going to select Phillip Hammond or any other reasonable, experienced figure.
    Gosh. A real sign that Tory life comes at you fast.
    I'd completely erased Hammond from my memory.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,202

    Leon said:

    I’m gonna sit in the bathroom

    Where’s the Carry On Up The Khyber sprit 😠
    You cannot leave the table until you have finished desert.

    Remember you are British and representing all of us when over there.

    Serious face now. You are re awakening us to this is what Ukraine are enduring on a daily basis, something that probably long slipped from our minds back here.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Con and Lab down 1, Reform up 3, others n/c.

    Small Farage effect?
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,183
    Dura_Ace said:

    Taz said:

    Conversation between King Charles and SKS overheard. Interesting revelation.

    https://x.com/generalboles/status/1798811693604048971?s=61

    And then mummy called Harry's wife a negress. It's been absolute bedlam ever since.
    😂😂😂😂
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 16,651
    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    CON/LAB/LDM all down by 1 and RFM up by 3.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,646
    Scott_xP said:

    I return to a comment from earlier today.

    Peter Mandelson suggested the party should seriously consider binning Richi before the election

    The events of today demonstrate why

    Is Mandelson running the CCHQ campaign?
    It's a more plausible explanation than most.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,063
    How did the Tories manage to go from Cameron to May to Johnson to Truss to Sunak?

    As someone said earlier, you can see now why Tory members went for Truss. They weren't as daft as we thought.
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,018

    AlsoLei said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @implausibleblog
    Wow! #BBCQT

    Mark Harper repeats Rishi Sunak's lie about the £2,000 Labour tax

    Fiona Bruce calls him out on it

    Mark Harper doubles down

    Fiona Bruce reads out the letter

    Mark Harper triples down on it

    Shabana Mahmood jumps in and calls him out

    Look at Mark Harpers face - he knows he's telling lies and yet he carries on, Shameful

    That's the point that MoonRabbit's been making: Rishi told those lies and refused to back down - so now senior Tories are stuck having to repeat them too if they don't want the story to suddenly become one of "Tory splits".

    And it's going to get worse and worse for them every time the lies are repeated.

    They really should have climbed down yesterday while it was still just about possible to do so, and relied on the £2000 figure sticking in people's minds.
    I agree with your post. 🥰 Except the bit about Tories ever had the chance to avoid this mess, once Rishi had firmly lead with it.

    And it’s not just the 2K Lie - every Conservative has to hold the line on boat crossings are down, waiting lists are down, pensioners have never paid tax, Rwanda will be a fabulous deterrent, over and over till election day, as these answers are now the actual spine of the Conservative campaign. 🫣

    And with the 2K Lie, the fact the Civil Service immediately called Rishi a liar is the take out from it this week, but far more damaging in long run is those 12yr old SPADs whose never had to work for a living in their lives who created this, only got it to up to 2K figure by only working families paying for it, totally ignoring the rest of the tax system and how it works to fund Tory pledges. The spectator piece leapt on this part of the madness straightaway, because the daftness of saying that was visible from space. It’s dragged in “how much do all these Tory pledge's cost in the fantasy world just a subset of tax payers pay them”.

    Sure there is lies and spin at elections, and the best of campaigns work and are legendary, but it has to be more sophisticated and subtle than something that instantly falls apart, into this “properly taking voters as mugs with your never ending lies” narrative in just 24hrs!

    If Cummings clever £350M “gross on a bus” is Grad A version how to do it, this was more like D minus.
    Interesting that on debate night SKS was called out for letting that ride unchallenged for several minutes. Yet the challenge, when it did come, after multiple repetitions of the fabrication, was very forceful and more prominent for allowing the repetition to occur and now it is causing the Tories issues.

    I can't say for sure whether Starmer got lucky or was doing some Jason Beer let the lie sit there a while thing, but it has worked out.

    Who do we reckon won the debate now?
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,200
    Scott_xP said:

    I return to a comment from earlier today.

    Peter Mandelson suggested the party should seriously consider binning Richi before the election

    The events of today demonstrate why

    Who was it who predicted that Isaac Levido would be jettisoned to try to shore up Rishi's position? I think they might have been on to something.

    It won't improve matters if it happens, of course - Levido is only a symptom of the problem, not the cause.

    The party need to accept that this is it, there's no escaping what's coming. The leadership should shut up and stop trying to stir things up, whilst the constituencies look to their own defences. Following any other path is going to make things worse, not better.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,295
    edited June 6
    Matt this evening is another triumph. He deserves to be in a better read paper.


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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 46,068
    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Is there a Yougov post debate out tonight too?
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 21,472
    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Thanks. Do you happen to know the changes (I’m being lazy)?
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    Foxy said:

    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Is there a Yougov post debate out tonight too?
    Apparently out in the morning
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    edited June 6
    Dura_Ace said:

    Taz said:

    Conversation between King Charles and SKS overheard. Interesting revelation.

    https://x.com/generalboles/status/1798811693604048971?s=61

    And then mummy called Harry's wife a negress. It's been absolute bedlam ever since.
    Very good.

    Where has that funny little chap gone?
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    Heathener said:

    Foxy said:

    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Is there a Yougov post debate out tonight too?
    Apparently out in the morning
    Sunak?
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,649
    edited June 6

    Heathener said:

    Lab 44%
    Con 20%
    LibDem 10%
    Reform 15%
    Green 6%

    Labour lead 24%

    @ Techne
    Fieldwork 5-6 June

    Thanks. Do you happen to know the changes (I’m being lazy)?
    Hat tip to the other posters above, Con/Lab/LibDem all down 1% a piece, Reform up 3%

    Sorry, I should have posted the changes straightaway.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,716
    edited June 6
    Who are the other main fruitloops, er, public spokesmen and women or strategists, in Reform, except Farage and Tice?

    I never hear of any.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,227
    biggles said:

    Matt this evening is another triumph. He deserves to be in a better read paper.


    'read' redundant there
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    ClippPClippP Posts: 1,797
    ToryJim said:

    How is Sunak so crap? Is it the wealth that insulates him from reality?

    It could be that he’s deliberately trying to get the Tories massacred.
    Or it could be that he does not feel personally involved with D Day. How many members of his family were killed at Dunkirk? Or landed in Normandy Or were killed in the Blitz?
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