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What’s tonight’s debate going to this betting market? – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 11,801
edited June 16 in General
imageWhat’s tonight’s debate going to this betting market? – politicalbetting.com

Unless Starmer or Sunak soil themselves on stage I expect very little change to the market.

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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 937
    Nothing? But First
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,290
    Paging @Leon


    Hannah Rose Woods
    @hannahrosewoods


    Tfw you really enjoy flint knapping


    https://x.com/hannahrosewoods/status/1797937407259816171
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    PedestrianRockPedestrianRock Posts: 290
    edited June 4


    Hinting at Survation’s MRP at 8. What do we reckon this ‘worth waiting for’ and ‘recommend you reserve judgment’ phrasing means then? Post-Farage Reform surge accounted for in Survation methodology? Or just much better numbers for Labour?
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 28,286
    edited June 4
    MP for Crewe & Nantwich until a few days ago.

    https://x.com/KieranMullanUK/status/1798002557031428333

    "Dr Kieran Mullan 🇬🇧 🇺🇦
    @KieranMullanUK

    Incredible honour to be selected as the MP candidate for Bexhill & Battle. I want to take what I learnt as an NHS doctor, volunteer policeman and MP to deliver for residents."
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase her OF following.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 6,332
    edited June 4
    I’m going to be watching the men’s tennis: Tstisipas v Alcaraz. Hopefully a good game. And the youngsters will be watching Love Island, obvs. Both likely to be far more interesting than the leader debate.

    @Sandpit , Sinner is a brilliant young men’s player. He won the Grand Slam Australian Open.

    @AndyJS there are actually quite a few 3-way marginals. It would make for a great thread if someone felt like writing it up.

    I’m in one. Newton Abbot. A case can be made for any of Con-LibDem-Lab to win it. Indeed the most reputable tactical voting sites have decided to defer advising for two more weeks.

    The way the polls are, there could be a number of these and some quite strange-looking anomalies because of the wild shifts in public opinion.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    Andy_JS said:

    MP for Crewe & Nantwich until a few days ago.

    https://x.com/KieranMullanUK/status/1798002557031428333

    "Dr Kieran Mullan 🇬🇧 🇺🇦
    @KieranMullanUK

    Incredible honour to be selected as the MP candidate for Bexhill & Battle. I want to take what I learnt as an NHS doctor, volunteer policeman and MP to deliver for residents."

    Not sure I would be very impressed by that if I was a resident in either constituency. I see Timpson (formerly of that seat) is stepping down, another one of the decent Tory MPs.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,146
    England are 0-5 against European nations at T20 WCs...
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,159
    edited June 4
    Islington North Update

    Corbyn's campaign launch last Wednesday received quite a lot of attention in the national press - the friendlier outlets stressing that it was "well-attended by people of all ages", but as far as I could see the crowd consisted of community activists and union reps in their late 50s or older. The millennials who were inspired by the 2017 campaign were conspicuous by their absence, and there seemed to be very little comment on social media from anyone within the constituency itself.

    The next day, Labour's Praful Nargund launched his campaign to a closed audience of 50 placard-waving members of the CLP. This was a much more artificial event, and received little attention from everyone apart from OnLondon's Dave Hill, who lives locally.

    Corbyn's campaign have begun canvassing. They've not yet reached me, but a friend who lives a few streets away reports that they turned up at her place on Friday, "behaving like TV licence inspectors". Searching online reveals other reports of aggressive canvassing, such as:

    "Someone knocked on our door, canvassing for Jeremy Corbyn, and I asked them to not darken my doorstep. He said, I will come back every day until you vote Corbyn. Marvellous PR for Labour."
    https://x.com/lucyinglis/status/1796055597823021507

    Whether this matters or not is open to question - it could just be a single inexperienced activist to blame, but if it's a more widespread issue it could easily start turning people off.

    There's been no other visible activity from either side as yet - which is in itself notable, as I had been expecting Corbyn to run this like a by-election campaign. It could be that his 'building a network' style of campaigning will take a while longer to get moving, and there's still time for him to kick things up a notch. If that doesn't happen, though, I would expect Labour to win this by default on the back of their national profile.

    Corbyn Street



    Let's take a closer look at the activity in one residential street - chosen because of its name, but with a good mix of housing types and tenures, it's not untypical of the constituency as a whole.

    Labour: 3 window posters (2 for Praful Nargund, 1 generic Labour)
    Corbyn: 1 small flyer in the window
    SDP: ~200 (a box of leaflets from the recent GLA elections, dumped in the garden of a house being renovated)
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 28,286

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,390

    Andy_JS said:

    MP for Crewe & Nantwich until a few days ago.

    https://x.com/KieranMullanUK/status/1798002557031428333

    "Dr Kieran Mullan 🇬🇧 🇺🇦
    @KieranMullanUK

    Incredible honour to be selected as the MP candidate for Bexhill & Battle. I want to take what I learnt as an NHS doctor, volunteer policeman and MP to deliver for residents."

    Not sure I would be very impressed by that if I was a resident in either constituency.
    https://www.drkieranmullan.org.uk/about-dr-kieran-mullan

    Access denied! Rapidly updating one might assume.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 21,216

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    His Only Fans following? It’s her that’s the porn star I think.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,132

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    'He doesn't represent anything I believe in, or any of the people around here. He doesn't represent us, he's not from here.'

    If only there was some way to test this. Some way of seeing how the locals feel.

    Throw away the key.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 21,216
    Chameleon said:

    England are 0-5 against European nations at T20 WCs...

    This is looking ominous from the Scots. They raise their game against us.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 21,216
    Porn star shows Nige her milkshake

    I mean the Viz headlines write themselves
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    Do England open with somebody like Livingstone and just tell him to try and hit boundary every ball?
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,146
    edited June 4
    AlsoLei said:

    Islington North Update

    *snip*

    Let's take a closer look at the activity in one residential street - chosen because of its name, but with a good mix of housing types and tenures, it's not untypical of the constituency as a whole.

    Labour: 3 window posters (2 for Praful Nargund, 1 generic Labour)
    Corbyn: 1 small flyer in the window
    SDP: ~200 (a box of leaflets from the recent GLA elections, dumped in the garden of a house being renovated)

    My house deposit money going on the SDP based off that.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117
    https://x.com/MrHarryCole/status/1798056928490516765?s=19
    That's..... that's 14 more votes for Reform!
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    Clutch_BromptonClutch_Brompton Posts: 554
    biggles said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    'He doesn't represent anything I believe in, or any of the people around here. He doesn't represent us, he's not from here.'

    If only there was some way to test this. Some way of seeing how the locals feel.

    Throw away the key.
    If the current Govt is returned we can expect a decision to prosecute in about a year and a possible court case circa 2036. She will then get a suspended sentence because the prisons are all full.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase her OF following.

    That's a very interesting demographic. Jezza porn stars for Brexit against Nigel
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,037
    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
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    guybrushguybrush Posts: 244

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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    I believe it is a online community of people interested in all things fans.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,418
    England 109 to win. Could be more exciting than the election!
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,136

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    Yuk. Nasty. Best of luck
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 21,216
    Scotland get the bonus.

    England require 109 from ten overs.

    Going to be interesting.

    C’mon England.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,354
    Schulz is presumably fluent in English, but 'Bobbies'? Surprising.

    And then Schulz said to me[Biden], "What would you say Mr President, if tomorrow you pick up The London Times and found out that thousands of people stormed the British Parliament, broke down the doors, killed two Bobbies to prevent the implement - the swearing in of a, of a preime minister, a choice of prime minister?"
    https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media/GPOiavxWYAA_TDR.jpg
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,136
    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117
    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    Girls getting their goodies out for paying tiktok subscribers and other sex stuff
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 26,040

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    His Only Fans following? It’s her that’s the porn star I think.
    You are tempting TSE to post THAT Nige photo with a statement like that!
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    Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,518
    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    first world problems, eh?
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,133
    FPT

    Sandpit said:
    » show previous quotes
    Well yesterday’s revelation was that they couldn’t find 34,000 people in New York who wanted to pay to watch a cricket match staged 30 miles out of town.

    SSI - Not surprising.

    However, your analysis as to reasons why is a tad flawed, seeing that:

    > more people live in Queen (part of NYC) than in Manhattan ("town"); and

    > Queens is also more ethically diverse, with greater numbers & percentages of South and West Indians.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,354

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    Nasty stuff, they can come out of nowhere.

    In a flimsy attempt at humour, we might note that in politics we also have painful collections of pus in our body politic.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,628

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    I believe it is a online community of people interested in all things fans.
    Neil Parish was on there a lot, it’s a good site for an ex-tractor fan.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 15,248

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    Get well soon.

    Though perhaps the odds on someone soiling themselves on stage tonight have just shortened.

    (It's going to be Rishi, isn't it?)
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,203

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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,073

    Porn star shows Nige her milkshake

    I mean the Viz headlines write themselves

    He knows how to milk it:

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1798006758750966187
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,990
    Can't help feeling that restriction to 10 overs plays into the hands of England's superior batting strength but 109 in 10 overs is no cakewalk.

    Come on Scotland!
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,390
    How much can political scandal move the vote?

    My constituency Bermondsey and Old Southwark is forecast 59% Labour 22% LD by Yougov, which would feel about right. But, the sitting MP has been found guilty of sexual harrassment, racism and bullying and harrassment and barred from Westminster bars. Quite a rap sheet, blames it on alcohol addiction, drinking 200 units a week. Says not drinking for last couple of years.

    The anti-Tory vote should be fairly fungible here, LDs got 48% in 2010.

    LDs 12/1 but I assume the gap is too wide.

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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117
    Savanta keeping it interesting
    🚨NEW Westminster Voting Intention for @Telegraph

    📈14pt Labour lead - lowest since Feb

    🌹Lab 42 (-2)
    🌳Con 28 (+1)
    🔶LD 9 (-1)
    ➡️Reform 9 (+1)
    🌍Green 4 (=)
    🎗️SNP 3 (=)
    ⬜️Other 5 (+1)

    2,209 UK adults, 31 May - 2 June

    (chg 24-26 May)
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,133
    boulay said:

    Porn star shows Nige her milkshake

    I mean the Viz headlines write themselves

    I suppose as it was after 10.30 it was too late to show her egg McMuffin.
    NEVER to late for that, is it?
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,951
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    I believe it is a online community of people interested in all things fans.
    Neil Parish was on there a lot, it’s a good site for an ex-tractor fan.
    Lucid observation. But I am puzzled by the OP's statement that Mr Farage has an OnlyFans following.
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,423

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    Get Well Soon. Promise not to post too many holiday snaps whilst you're gone. Or do I?
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 45,559

    Site notice

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    Sympathies - get well soon.

    Obviously caused by too much modesty and cheap shoes.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,136

    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    first world problems, eh?
    Given the frequent missile, drone and clusterbomb attacks on Odessa, evidenced by the damage all around me, I’m gonna say this is a bit worse than a “first world problem”

    However I suspect that was your sly intent, so fair enough! It is also very stimulating
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,290

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    Oh dear - sorry to hear this. Best of luck.

    Although perhaps this is like Mike going on holiday?

    Will something major happen? Starmer bursts into tears on TV debate and says he doesn't really want to be PM after all - it was all for a stupid bet with his Arsenal mates?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4

    Savanta keeping it interesting
    🚨NEW Westminster Voting Intention for @Telegraph

    📈14pt Labour lead - lowest since Feb

    🌹Lab 42 (-2)
    🌳Con 28 (+1)
    🔶LD 9 (-1)
    ➡️Reform 9 (+1)
    🌍Green 4 (=)
    🎗️SNP 3 (=)
    ⬜️Other 5 (+1)

    2,209 UK adults, 31 May - 2 June

    (chg 24-26 May)

    The divergence among the pollsters is absolutely massive. Is somebody going to end up looking like the Indian pollsters?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,990

    England 109 to win. Could be more exciting than the election!

    I'm certainly watching this even if it impedes into the Sunak Starmer debate at 9. Probably won't if its only 10 overs. But the rain is back. Barbados and match rained off. Not what you expect.
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 11,123
    kle4 said:

    Schulz is presumably fluent in English, but 'Bobbies'? Surprising.

    And then Schulz said to me[Biden], "What would you say Mr President, if tomorrow you pick up The London Times and found out that thousands of people stormed the British Parliament, broke down the doors, killed two Bobbies to prevent the implement - the swearing in of a, of a preime minister, a choice of prime minister?"
    https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media/GPOiavxWYAA_TDR.jpg

    It's 'Peelers', 'the United Kingdom Parliament' and 'The Times'. And we don't swear in Prime Ministers, we just trust to luck.
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    squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,425
    edited June 4
    B careful who you vote 4. Labour are going to tax the bollocks off everyone.
    If you hear Starmer speak, you know he lying. He will do or say anything just like Blair did. Get your Isa sorted now. Get as much as you can afford into a pension. Get your dividend income into an isa.
    There is a tax storm coming.
    You heard it on here.

    I say again... be careful of your vote. What seems attractive now isn't going to be.. 2 yrs hence. .
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,133
    AlsoLei said:

    Islington North Update

    Corbyn's campaign launch last Wednesday received quite a lot of attention in the national press - the friendlier outlets stressing that it was "well-attended by people of all ages", but as far as I could see the crowd consisted of community activists and union reps in their late 50s or older. The millennials who were inspired by the 2017 campaign were conspicuous by their absence, and there seemed to be very little comment on social media from anyone within the constituency itself.

    The next day, Labour's Praful Nargund launched his campaign to a closed audience of 50 placard-waving members of the CLP. This was a much more artificial event, and received little attention from everyone apart from OnLondon's Dave Hill, who lives locally.

    Corbyn's campaign have begun canvassing. They've not yet reached me, but a friend who lives a few streets away reports that they turned up at her place on Friday, "behaving like TV licence inspectors". Searching online reveals other reports of aggressive canvassing, such as:

    "Someone knocked on our door, canvassing for Jeremy Corbyn, and I asked them to not darken my doorstep. He said, I will come back every day until you vote Corbyn. Marvellous PR for Labour."
    https://x.com/lucyinglis/status/1796055597823021507

    Whether this matters or not is open to question - it could just be a single inexperienced activist to blame, but if it's a more widespread issue it could easily start turning people off.

    There's been no other visible activity from either side as yet - which is in itself notable, as I had been expecting Corbyn to run this like a by-election campaign. It could be that his 'building a network' style of campaigning will take a while longer to get moving, and there's still time for him to kick things up a notch. If that doesn't happen, though, I would expect Labour to win this by default on the back of their national profile.

    Corbyn Street



    Let's take a closer look at the activity in one residential street - chosen because of its name, but with a good mix of housing types and tenures, it's not untypical of the constituency as a whole.

    Labour: 3 window posters (2 for Praful Nargund, 1 generic Labour)
    Corbyn: 1 small flyer in the window
    SDP: ~200 (a box of leaflets from the recent GLA elections, dumped in the garden of a house being renovated)

    Re the last sentence, getting dumped somewhere OTHER than voters' doorsteps, is the fate of a LARGE percentage of campaign "literature".

    Always has been, and likely always will.

    Though it does NOT say good things about SDP, that (at least) one of their "activists" chose to litter rather than recycle the bumpf.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,073

    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    So only fans?
    https://x.com/MrHarryCole/status/1798058667364978747

    NEW: The woman who chucked a banana milkshake over Nigel Farage is a Labour-supporting OnlyFans model, @TheSun can reveal.
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,133
    kle4 said:

    Schulz is presumably fluent in English, but 'Bobbies'? Surprising.

    And then Schulz said to me[Biden], "What would you say Mr President, if tomorrow you pick up The London Times and found out that thousands of people stormed the British Parliament, broke down the doors, killed two Bobbies to prevent the implement - the swearing in of a, of a preime minister, a choice of prime minister?"
    https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media/GPOiavxWYAA_TDR.jpg

    "Bobbies" is EXTREMELY well-know world-wide as moniker for Brit cops.

    Even by folks (such as myself) who are NOT fluent in English.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    I wouldn't be surprised if we find out she gets 1000s of new subs, gets a slap on the wrist from the plod and ultimately makes bank.Wasn,t the CL final pitch invasion also so stupid online thing to win money?
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,037

    Porn star shows Nige her milkshake

    I mean the Viz headlines write themselves

    Outside a pub called the ‘Moon and Starfish’ no less.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117

    Savanta keeping it interesting
    🚨NEW Westminster Voting Intention for @Telegraph

    📈14pt Labour lead - lowest since Feb

    🌹Lab 42 (-2)
    🌳Con 28 (+1)
    🔶LD 9 (-1)
    ➡️Reform 9 (+1)
    🌍Green 4 (=)
    🎗️SNP 3 (=)
    ⬜️Other 5 (+1)

    2,209 UK adults, 31 May - 2 June

    (chg 24-26 May)

    The divergence among the pollsters is absolutely massive. Is somebody going to end up looking like the Indian pollsters?
    Makes for betting oppos!
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,037

    I wouldn't be surprised if we find out she gets 1000s of new subs, gets a slap on the wrist from the plod and ultimately makes bank.

    I’m sure whatever punishment she gets she’ll take it on the chin.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,628
    Carnyx said:

    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    I believe it is a online community of people interested in all things fans.
    Neil Parish was on there a lot, it’s a good site for an ex-tractor fan.
    Lucid observation. But I am puzzled by the OP's statement that Mr Farage has an OnlyFans following.
    I’m trying not to think of Nigel Farage in connection with OF as it gives some possibilities for vile imagery to seep into the brain.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,374
    Best wishes, TSE! Come back soon.
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    TazTaz Posts: 12,037

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    Girls getting their goodies out for paying tiktok subscribers and other sex stuff
    Ding Dong !!
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,159

    How much can political scandal move the vote?

    My constituency Bermondsey and Old Southwark is forecast 59% Labour 22% LD by Yougov, which would feel about right. But, the sitting MP has been found guilty of sexual harrassment, racism and bullying and harrassment and barred from Westminster bars. Quite a rap sheet, blames it on alcohol addiction, drinking 200 units a week. Says not drinking for last couple of years.

    The anti-Tory vote should be fairly fungible here, LDs got 48% in 2010.

    LDs 12/1 but I assume the gap is too wide.

    Any Corbynite or Green challenge likely here? Neil Coyle is hated by a certain section of very online activist folk...
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,418
    The cricket will be a draw now. Or rather no result.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 28,286
    edited June 4
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    I find it interesting that what 10 years ago we had all the "outrage" over 3-page, lad mags, grid girls, ring girls, dart walk-on girls. The Guardian etc, it was all absolute terrible stuff demeaning stuff, it had to be banned.

    Now we have far more young women willing to show / do a lot more for a few quid on Only Fans. Its far worse on the other side too, as it sets up this weird para-social relationship, where horny lonely guys pay a load of money often to talk to some bloke in a messaging centre (when they think they are paying the hot girl).
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,133
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    Schulz is presumably fluent in English, but 'Bobbies'? Surprising.

    And then Schulz said to me[Biden], "What would you say Mr President, if tomorrow you pick up The London Times and found out that thousands of people stormed the British Parliament, broke down the doors, killed two Bobbies to prevent the implement - the swearing in of a, of a preime minister, a choice of prime minister?"
    https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media/GPOiavxWYAA_TDR.jpg

    It's 'Peelers', 'the United Kingdom Parliament' and 'The Times'. And we don't swear in Prime Ministers, we just trust to luck.
    So Brits don't call Bobbies "Bobbies"?

    Beyond the shore of Britain, "Peeler" is less known & used than "Bobby". Though both terms reference the same person: Sir Robert Peel.

    Note that Irish of his epoch enjoyed referring to his as "Orange Peel" for some reason . . .
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 9,117
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    Girls getting their goodies out for paying tiktok subscribers and other sex stuff
    Ding Dong !!
    I'm told you can smell the stench of sweat and shame through the screen.
    I prefer a good magazine with features
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,990
    On the debate if Sunak manages to get on stage without his oddly fitting trousers falling down and doesn't faint he will have exceeded expectations which are abysmal for a man who regularly got thumped by Liz Truss in debates. It will take something truly remarkable for people not to be saying Sunak wasn't as bad as expected.
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    PedestrianRockPedestrianRock Posts: 290
    All the best TSE
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,463
    boulay said:

    Carnyx said:

    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The woman who hurled a milkshake over Nigel Farage as he launched his campaign to become an MP is a Jeremy Corbyn-supporting OnlyFans model who hails from a family of Brexiteers, MailOnline can reveal. Victoria Thomas-Bowen, 25, was arrested by police on suspicion of assault after she drenched the new Reform leader as he stepped out of a Wetherspoons in Clacton, Essex.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494115/I-just-felt-like-Woman-25-arrested-throwing-milkshake-Nigel-Farage-doesnt-represent-believe-Reform-UK-leader-incident-frightening.html

    I am going to guess she thought great idea to pull a stunt like this to increase his OF following.

    OnlyFans has been in the news a lot recently.
    OnlyFans, OnlyFans, Pray what is this OnlyFans I keep hearing of ?
    I believe it is a online community of people interested in all things fans.
    Neil Parish was on there a lot, it’s a good site for an ex-tractor fan.
    Lucid observation. But I am puzzled by the OP's statement that Mr Farage has an OnlyFans following.
    I’m trying not to think of Nigel Farage in connection with OF as it gives some possibilities for vile imagery to seep into the brain.
    Do you mean this




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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,374
    Cricket rained off. Probably lucky for England; tough on Scotland.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,463
    Survation MRP

    Labour is currently estimated to be the largest party in the next parliament with 487 seats, the Conservatives second with 71 seats, followed by the Liberal Democrats with 43 seats and the SNP with 26 seats. This model currently finds Plaid on two to three seats, while there is a possibility that Reform could win three.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 26,040
    ...

    B careful who you vote 4. Labour are going to tax the bollocks off everyone.
    If you hear Starmer speak, you know he lying. He will do or say anything just like Blair did. Get your Isa sorted now. Get as much as you can afford into a pension. Get your dividend income into an isa.
    There is a tax storm coming.
    You heard it on here.

    I say again... be careful of your vote. What seems attractive now isn't going to be.. 2 yrs hence. .

    Thanks for the tip.

    Whoever gets in is either going to have to cut services or increase taxes, or both.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 28,286
    "Sunak’s Deputy Chief of Staff and founder of centrist Tory think tank Onward Will Tanner has bagged a rare Tory safe seat. He was parachuted into Bury St Edmunds & Stowmarket last night – winning by a “landslide“. To much anger from the local Tories…"

    https://order-order.com/2024/06/04/tanner-selected-for-brexit-backing-bury-st-edmunds-despite-anti-brexit-tweets/
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    geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,301

    kle4 said:

    Schulz is presumably fluent in English, but 'Bobbies'? Surprising.

    And then Schulz said to me[Biden], "What would you say Mr President, if tomorrow you pick up The London Times and found out that thousands of people stormed the British Parliament, broke down the doors, killed two Bobbies to prevent the implement - the swearing in of a, of a preime minister, a choice of prime minister?"
    https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media/GPOiavxWYAA_TDR.jpg

    "Bobbies" is EXTREMELY well-know world-wide as moniker for Brit cops.

    Even by folks (such as myself) who are NOT fluent in English.
    Having apprehended a criminal the Indian policeman said "we nabbed him" in a report on TV

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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,390
    AlsoLei said:

    How much can political scandal move the vote?

    My constituency Bermondsey and Old Southwark is forecast 59% Labour 22% LD by Yougov, which would feel about right. But, the sitting MP has been found guilty of sexual harrassment, racism and bullying and harrassment and barred from Westminster bars. Quite a rap sheet, blames it on alcohol addiction, drinking 200 units a week. Says not drinking for last couple of years.

    The anti-Tory vote should be fairly fungible here, LDs got 48% in 2010.

    LDs 12/1 but I assume the gap is too wide.

    Any Corbynite or Green challenge likely here? Neil Coyle is hated by a certain section of very online activist folk...
    Its got potential for a Green challenge but they didnt stand last time and got 1% the time before so probably not substantial. Yougov has them at 7% level with the Tories. I'm thinking Labour high forties, LDs low thirties but hard to tell how much the candidate matters, and what level of forgiveness the electorate has.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,199
    ydoethur said:

    Site notice

    I'm currently in hospital with an abscess that is going to require surgery so I’m likely to be hors de combat for a few days.

    RCS will be running the site for a few days.

    Sorry to hear this, hope the operation is a success and you get well soon.
    I feel I should make it clear that the like I gave TSE was in sympathy, rather than celebrating the announcement of his surgery.

    (Which would have been odd, but I've seen odder on PB.)
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,315



    Hinting at Survation’s MRP at 8. What do we reckon this ‘worth waiting for’ and ‘recommend you reserve judgment’ phrasing means then? Post-Farage Reform surge accounted for in Survation methodology? Or just much better numbers for Labour?

    Farage standing but also tonight's debate might change the weather.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,951
    Taz said:

    Porn star shows Nige her milkshake

    I mean the Viz headlines write themselves

    Outside a pub called the ‘Moon and Starfish’ no less.
    Bizarre coincidence, given that some starfish are apt to breed by flinging large quantities of milky stuff around at full moon.

    https://www.norfolkislandreef.com.au/out-on-a-swim/casting-your-offspring-to-the-currents-sea-star-reproduction
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,010

    Site notice

    I'm currently in hospital with an abscess that is going to require surgery so I’m likely to be hors de combat for a few days.

    RCS will be running the site for a few days.

    Hope everything goes well and you have a speedy recovery! PB just isn't PB without you!
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,132

    ...

    B careful who you vote 4. Labour are going to tax the bollocks off everyone.
    If you hear Starmer speak, you know he lying. He will do or say anything just like Blair did. Get your Isa sorted now. Get as much as you can afford into a pension. Get your dividend income into an isa.
    There is a tax storm coming.
    You heard it on here.

    I say again... be careful of your vote. What seems attractive now isn't going to be.. 2 yrs hence. .

    Thanks for the tip.

    Whoever gets in is either going to have to cut services or increase taxes, or both.
    The worst case scenario is that they don’t….
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,997



    Hinting at Survation’s MRP at 8. What do we reckon this ‘worth waiting for’ and ‘recommend you reserve judgment’ phrasing means then? Post-Farage Reform surge accounted for in Survation methodology? Or just much better numbers for Labour?

    Farage standing but also tonight's debate might change the weather.
    https://x.com/Survation/status/1798062683394306547?t=TwJ9BBbkwM0huOCywNDIkg&s=19
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 50,010

    The cricket will be a draw now. Or rather no result.

    What a waste of time :lol:
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,390

    Cricket rained off. Probably lucky for England; tough on Scotland.

    If we get similar for the debate, it should favour Sunak given his greater experience in the conditions.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,073

    Survation MRP

    Labour is currently estimated to be the largest party in the next parliament with 487 seats, the Conservatives second with 71 seats, followed by the Liberal Democrats with 43 seats and the SNP with 26 seats. This model currently finds Plaid on two to three seats, while there is a possibility that Reform could win three.

    Carol Vorderman last year: ‘I honestly believe we can reduce the Tories to 70 MPs’

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/24/carol-vorderman-perfect-10-quiz-book-countdown-interview
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,628
    DavidL said:

    On the debate if Sunak manages to get on stage without his oddly fitting trousers falling down and doesn't faint he will have exceeded expectations which are abysmal for a man who regularly got thumped by Liz Truss in debates. It will take something truly remarkable for people not to be saying Sunak wasn't as bad as expected.

    I still don’t recollect these thumpings Truss gave him in debates. I remember her talking a load of wishful thinking magical unicorns and him getting exasperated and explaining that her ideas under current economic conditions would cause huge problems, which they did as he pointed out, but she didn’t thump him in any way in the debates.

    I think her win when voted for by the members has coloured memories of exactly what happened during the leadership election.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,463
    Survation's first MRP of the 2024 general election shows that if the election were to take place today, Labour are on course to win a historic majority of 324 seats which would be the largest ever majority in modern British politics.

    The MRP analysis is based on online and telephone collected interviews of 30,044 people undertaken by Survation on behalf of Best for Britain with fieldwork carried out between 22nd May- 2nd June 2024. Survation moved to a full ballot-prompted methodology on May 30th and this approach is reflected in the most recent waves of sample, with the model taking into account time - giving more weight to recently collected data.

    Our probabilistic approach estimates the probability of each party winning each seat and aggregates them to give us an idea of how the election would play out. For example, if a party has a 50% chance of winning in 4 seats, we allocate 2 seats to them. This approach indicates that Labour is currently estimated to be the largest party in the next parliament with 487 seats, the Conservatives second with 71 seats, followed by the Liberal Democrats with 43 seats and the SNP with 26 seats. This model currently finds Plaid on two to three seats, while there is a possibility that Reform could win three.

    Many of these seats are direct contests between Labour and the Conservatives. While Labour is currently leading in 505 seats in terms of our average estimated vote share, the Conservatives fall close second within 5% of the Labour vote in 50 of those, while they come second within 10% of Labour’s vote share in a further 55 of those. Many seats remain in play, and we estimate that 126 seats would be decided by a margin of 5% or less if the election tomorrow.

    The implied national vote share from the MRP model placed Labour on 43.2%, Conservatives on 24.3%, Lib Dems on 10.4%, Reform on 11.4% and the Green Party on 4.2%. The SNP would receive 3.3% of the vote, and Plaid 0.6% while other parties would receive a combined vote share of 2.6%.

    While Reform does not currently lead any other parties in terms of any single constituency vote share, the model estimates that they have a one in four chance of winning Gainsborough and North West Norfolk, and a one in five chance of winning Clacton. While these estimates do not take into account Farage’s candidacy in Clacton, our constituency poll conducted in January showed that if he stood in the election, he would lead the Conservative candidate Giles Watling by 10%.
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    PeterPeter Posts: 1
    This may also change things at the margin. MSM now acknowledging covid jabs may be dangerous.
    this from Dr Aseem Malhotra.

    BREAKING FRONT PAGE TELEGRAPH

    ‘Covid jab may have led to rise in excess deaths’

    FINALLY mainstream media acknowledgement in U.K.

    We did it 🔥🔥🔥

    https://x.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1797922073798717524
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4
    DavidL said:

    On the debate if Sunak manages to get on stage without his oddly fitting trousers falling down and doesn't faint he will have exceeded expectations which are abysmal for a man who regularly got thumped by Liz Truss in debates. It will take something truly remarkable for people not to be saying Sunak wasn't as bad as expected.

    You are rather optimistic there. Sunak is truly terrible at this stuff. I am sure Starmer will come with his lawyer background, and basically prosecute the Tories for their time in government.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 45,559
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    first world problems, eh?
    Given the frequent missile, drone and clusterbomb attacks on Odessa, evidenced by the damage all around me, I’m gonna say this is a bit worse than a “first world problem”

    However I suspect that was your sly intent, so fair enough! It is also very stimulating
    The ultimate first world problem I have encountered was in the hotel at Montrachet. Due to the chefs tasters between courses in the 11 course menu, you lose track of whether you are on course 7 or 8.
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,423
    edited June 4
    Peter said:

    This may also change things at the margin. MSM now acknowledging covid jabs may be dangerous.
    this from Dr Aseem Malhotra.

    BREAKING FRONT PAGE TELEGRAPH

    ‘Covid jab may have led to rise in excess deaths’

    FINALLY mainstream media acknowledgement in U.K.

    We did it 🔥🔥🔥

    https://x.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1797922073798717524

    Surname Sberg?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 77,800
    edited June 4

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    first world problems, eh?
    Given the frequent missile, drone and clusterbomb attacks on Odessa, evidenced by the damage all around me, I’m gonna say this is a bit worse than a “first world problem”

    However I suspect that was your sly intent, so fair enough! It is also very stimulating
    The ultimate first world problem I have encountered was in the hotel at Montrachet. Due to the chefs tasters between courses in the 11 course menu, you lose track of whether you are on course 7 or 8.
    They messed up the order of courses of the 10 course menu when I eat at Le Manoir aux Quat' Saisons. Complaints were made, freebies were given.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,990
    boulay said:

    DavidL said:

    On the debate if Sunak manages to get on stage without his oddly fitting trousers falling down and doesn't faint he will have exceeded expectations which are abysmal for a man who regularly got thumped by Liz Truss in debates. It will take something truly remarkable for people not to be saying Sunak wasn't as bad as expected.

    I still don’t recollect these thumpings Truss gave him in debates. I remember her talking a load of wishful thinking magical unicorns and him getting exasperated and explaining that her ideas under current economic conditions would cause huge problems, which they did as he pointed out, but she didn’t thump him in any way in the debates.

    I think her win when voted for by the members has coloured memories of exactly what happened during the leadership election.
    To be honest I didn't watch much of the debates and the audience was of course demented but what I did see was an audience who found Truss a lot more palatable than anything Sunak was serving up. This man couldn't sell a cold beer in the Sahara.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 28,286

    Survation MRP

    Labour is currently estimated to be the largest party in the next parliament with 487 seats, the Conservatives second with 71 seats, followed by the Liberal Democrats with 43 seats and the SNP with 26 seats. This model currently finds Plaid on two to three seats, while there is a possibility that Reform could win three.

    Carol Vorderman last year: ‘I honestly believe we can reduce the Tories to 70 MPs’

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/24/carol-vorderman-perfect-10-quiz-book-countdown-interview
    She can do the maths.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,951
    edited June 4

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of inconveniences I’ve just realised that no mains power in Odessa = no aircon

    first world problems, eh?
    Given the frequent missile, drone and clusterbomb attacks on Odessa, evidenced by the damage all around me, I’m gonna say this is a bit worse than a “first world problem”

    However I suspect that was your sly intent, so fair enough! It is also very stimulating
    The ultimate first world problem I have encountered was in the hotel at Montrachet. Due to the chefs tasters between courses in the 11 course menu, you lose track of whether you are on course 7 or 8.
    Can't you work it out from the menu? Surely you can tell the difference between sweetbreads on laver pancake, and crab eyes in haddock mousse. Or whatever they really were.
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