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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,392
    Missed in all the excitment today but some really excellent PMIs for services: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10035097/UK-services-sector-hits-eight-month-high.html

    Service growth at an 8 month high last month. That is three from three this week all pointing to much faster growth from here.

    Will this be part of the answer? If the economy is seen to turn around will UKIP supporters start to feel more gruntled? And what on earth does Labour do then?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787

    "Tory victory in 2015"

    Doesn't it say something about the (lack of) ambition of the nationalists (I'm making a serious point, so I won't use the 'S' word) that a key rationale for ending a 300 year Union is the potential outcome of a 5 year Parliament?

    Michael Dugher spinning for his life's worth on R4...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2013
    Dan Hodges tweets:

    "Any Labour Party member, MP or commentator who says Labour is winning in 2015 based on these results should be sectioned."

    http://mobile.twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/330335643542626305
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
    BREAKING: The Govt has withdrawn its Royal Charter on press regulation from the May 15 privy council meeting - for more talks with editors.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    Tom Newton Dunn tweets:

    BREAKING: The Govt has withdrawn its Royal Charter on press regulation from the May 15 privy council meeting - for more talks with editors.

    Hacked Off Labour will be upset!
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,010
    Mr. Denmark, Mr. Bobajobb (I think) suffers similar problems. Everytime he has to change his password, which must be incredibly annoying.

    Miss Plato: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th6ts_O7Jno
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Doesn't it say something about the (lack of) ambition of the nationalists (I'm making a serious point, so I won't use the 'S' word) that a key rationale for ending a 300 year Union is the potential outcome of a 5 year Parliament?"

    Nope. I've explained this a number of times - the key rationale is that the Tories are the natural party of government in the UK, and if we vote against independence we can expect to continue to be ruled by them (in spite of voting against them in overwhelming numbers) roughly two-thirds of the time.

    But in practical terms it's simply much easier to get that point across if it looks like the Tories are likely to win the next election, which (unfortunately for the UK as a whole) now seems to be the case.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,392
    tim said:

    DavidL said:

    Labour won Doncaster mayor

    So once again we can only infer that the tories really don't like or get this second go thing. If their votes had transferred to the independent in sizeable numbers it would have been a cakewalk.

    Tories may be daft but they are consistent to their principles. Is that a good thing?


    Is that why so many Tories end up using private schools, because when the have to fill in their schools preference forms they all read

    1.County Primary
    2.County Primary
    3.County Primary

    Poor lambs, it's so difficult to understand
    I think that is more to do with state schools having been ruined by lefty teachers unions, marxist educationalists and socialist ideology but don't worry too much because Michael Gove is on the case.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Good result for the LDs in Northants to remain on 10 seats:

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/localgovernment/2013/05/vote-2013-live-blog-.html
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    "The notion of mid-term blues "usually" being reversed at General Elections just hasn't been born out for the past fifty years in British politics, aside from one case where changing leader and policy stance led to victory (Major in 1992) and two cases where the Party deliberately sought to pursue unpopular policies early on, seeking vindication later.

    If there is to be a recovery for the Conservative vote in 2015, based on a "reversal of mid-term blues" model, history suggests we'd better be either expecting our (incomplete) policies to be vindicated by then or to be changing policy stance and leader."

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/platform/2013/05/andrew-lilico-mid-term-blues.html
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    @MorrisDancer

    LOL - perfect just perfect



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    PBModeratorPBModerator Posts: 661
    new thread
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    They're....... off....! contd.

    "The backbench Tory plot to get a referendum bill into the Commons – and the row that will surely follow."

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/05/the-backbench-tory-plot-to-get-a-referendum-bill-into-the-commons-and-the-row-that-will-surely-follow/
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2013
    Funny if Ken Clarke's fruitcake comments allowed Labour to gain Nottinghamshire by one seat.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,446
    Plato said:

    Plato said:

    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Gawain Towler @GawainTowler
    More than 1,000,000 votes cast for @UKIP

    That's one million clowns, cranks, closet racists, fruitcakes, gadflies and loonies.

    Well done, Ken & Dave.
    It was a very stupid thing to say all that time ago - to not just apologise and get over it months ago by Cameron was even more idiotic. I've never been very keen on Ken for all his bonhomie - but his remarks were immensely arrogant, insulting and politically inept.

    I still remember EdM and Gordon calling me a Flat Earther and Anti-Science for not buying AGW - that was over 3yrs ago -insulting voters on a personal level is very dangerous and it sticks.

    I didn't vote yesterday - I can't recall the last time I didn't. Frankly, I'm delighted the Kippers did so well - I'd never vote for them but they're shaking up the smuggery of the Westminster Class.
    Sunil means "blue" - yet I'm toying with the idea of voting UKIP at least at the Euro Election next year.

    There, I said it!
    My MEP is Dan Hannan. I'll vote Tory in the Euros because of him as a personal vote.
    Well I suppose that's good enough a reason!
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,290
    edited May 2013
    Please can some one post a link on here, showing where I can quickly find total votes cast for the parties in the local elections?
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    So 147 seats and 139 gains. Not bad for us kippers.

    £5 and kisses winging it's way to PtP. :)
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    "Tom Newton Dunn tweets:"

    Hilarious timing for the fop and friends.

    L.O.L.

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    FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916

    et voila!

    De haut en bas:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/ukip-wins-hearts-not-minds-8603066.html

    Stupid voters....

    Glad to see its not just the right cleaving to their delusions.....

    I see that as a sub-headng the author uses:

    "Head and heart
    Confused? Bare with me."

    Even if the article had not been so bad and illogical anyway, my reaction would be: "Thanks, but no thanks."

    If the author cannot know the difference between "bare" and "bear" and publishes his ignorance, then he is just nonsensical and not a person to encourage.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,392
    SeanT said:

    DavidL said:

    Missed in all the excitment today but some really excellent PMIs for services: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10035097/UK-services-sector-hits-eight-month-high.html

    Service growth at an 8 month high last month. That is three from three this week all pointing to much faster growth from here.

    Will this be part of the answer? If the economy is seen to turn around will UKIP supporters start to feel more gruntled? And what on earth does Labour do then?

    If the British economy starts to accelerate, even as the eurozone stagnates - and this looks increasingly possible - that will mean Britain sucks in even more immigrants from eastern and southern Europe.

    I don't think that's going to dent UKIP's chances, do you?
    It won't with some of their support who are focussed on that but I suspect that more of UKIP's support comes from an unprecedented 5 years of falling real wages. People are seriously fed up with getting poorer and not being able to afford the sort of treats they took for granted. If that changes so will their view on life. There is not much time for this before the election as this does not change overnight but it is possible.
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