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  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Lab got 36% in 2005 GE

    If Lab is down 5% vs 2005 are we saying Lab is on 31% today in MID TERM? That is horrendous.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    NOC gain Norfolk
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Kent

    UKIP take all Folkestone and Sheppey Seats and most of Swale. They also take Romney in Kent Make further inroads into Tunbridge Wells (clearly outraged). The Boston scenario seems to be happening along the Kent Coast.

    Thanet is surely prime Kipper ground?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim still clinging to a rEd referendum ?

    I don't think he could have made it any clearer tim - now Harriet's singing the same tune.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Jason Cowan @jason_manc
    North & Midlands not falling for their nonsense > RT @Mancman10: No UKIP wins yet in Cumbria, Lancs, Derbys & Warwickshire. #vote2013
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Cannock Chase, popular vote:

    Lab: 7,426 (40.4%)
    Con: 4,663 (25.4%)
    UKIP 4,621 (25.2%)
    LD: 1,433 (7.8%)
    Others: 222 (1.2%)

    Changes from 2010 general election:

    Lab: +7.3%
    Con: -14.7%
    UKIP: +21.7%
    LD: -9.2%
    Others: -5.2%
  • CopperSulphateCopperSulphate Posts: 1,119
    tim said:

    @RichardTyndall

    There were two YouGov polls.

    This one

    http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/2ymajaut1j/YG-Archive-MMR-results-130408.pdf

    Showed 41% of Kippers not having given their children MMR

    The tired old meme that UKIP are a just a bunch of nutjobs doesn't quite work when they're getting 25% of the votes.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    Lab need to win each of the last 4 seats to get a majority of 1 on Lancashire council
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh
    We in the media love the UKIP narrative. But they've won just 52 seats out of 717 declared so far. That's 7.2% of the total
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2013
    A longer delay coming up now - they're asking for more votes to be counted again. #Doncaster

    They still have transfers to do....hurry up, please
  • Even more from Norfolk
    72 declared out of 84, 43 needed. At the moment Tories on 34 (60 in 2009) - this could go to the wire
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Michael Gove in interview with Adam Boulton:

    "Labour are doing less well than it did under Michael Foot in 1981. In 1981 they had a majority in Cumbria".
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2013
    Interesting that Tory plus UKIP won more than 50% in Cannock Chase...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029

    Even more from Norfolk
    72 declared out of 84, 43 needed. At the moment Tories on 34 (60 in 2009) - this could go to the wire

    Tories have already lost Norfolk.

    On the Norfolk website they have C 40, Lab 14, LD 10, Green 4, UKIP 14, Other 1.

    NOC gain
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    Meanwhile, in the land where Austerity is eschewed:

    @Politics_PR
    GREAT JOBS REPORT: UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FALLS TO 7.5%, BIG UPWARD REVISIONS, 165,000 NEW JOBS http://ow.ly/kFNfC
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited May 2013
    @tim,we are all kippers now,you just don't know it yet ;-)
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    UKIP has actually won 103 seats out of 1824 per Rob's brilliant spreadsheet!
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Plato said:

    Kent

    UKIP take all Folkestone and Sheppey Seats and most of Swale. They also take Romney in Kent Make further inroads into Tunbridge Wells (clearly outraged). The Boston scenario seems to be happening along the Kent Coast.

    Thanet is surely prime Kipper ground?

    we shall fight on the beaches,
    we shall fight on the landing grounds,
    we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
    we shall fight in the hills...

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Sam Inkersole @itssamnotsamuel
    Remarkable. @UKIP have 5 of 8 #KCCelection seats in Thanet, @willscobie for Labour has the other, with 2 in #Broadstairs still to be counted
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 7m

    Congratulations to the "clowns" and "fruitcakes"!!! That worked!!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    NOC gain Lancashire, Lab just missed out on this one.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Aussie Green leader on Sky News.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,403
    SeanT said:

    The ukipalypse is slowing as we head into the Midlands and the north.

    Will they still make 100 seats? 200 seems, to my untutored eye, completely unreachable.

    UKIP shut out completely in Derbyshire. According to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0An6GzfHRNpYQdEhrZ3V5a0VSRWNEM3dyNktCQm1RSlE&toomany=true#gid=0 it is a loss of 1 seat !
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2013
    Labour can still hope for a maj of 1 in Nottinghamshire looking at the seats still to be declared if they oust the Indies in Mansfield

  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795

    Kent

    UKIP take all Folkestone and Sheppey Seats and most of Swale. They also take Romney in Kent Make further inroads into Tunbridge Wells (clearly outraged). The Boston scenario seems to be happening along the Kent Coast.

    Pedantry corner. Not all Sheppey. Sheerness went Labour.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Dylan Sharpe @dylsharpe
    Oh look, it's Natalie "we'll get more councillors than UKIP" Bennett. After 18 councils declared UKIP have 52 cllrs, Greens 6...
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    If the Thrasher Sky news projection is correct the LDs will win many more seats than Ukip on much lower vote share. Viva FPTP!
  • I honestly thought the Greens would do better.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    BenM said:

    Meanwhile, in the land where Austerity is eschewed:

    @Politics_PR
    GREAT JOBS REPORT: UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FALLS TO 7.5%, BIG UPWARD REVISIONS, 165,000 NEW JOBS http://ow.ly/kFNfC

    Have you not heard of sequestration Ben?

    I actually agree with you that austerity when interest rates are rock bottom should be delayed. But it's madness to think the US is doing that.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    I think we might be getting a thread on this.

    Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 41s

    If the Thrasher Sky news projection is correct the LDs will win many more seats than Ukip on much lower vote share. Viva FPTP!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    UKIP retain Ramsey in Cambs with 66.7% share of the vote:

    http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/council/democracy/elections/elections-2013/hunts.htm
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    BenM said:

    Meanwhile, in the land where Austerity is eschewed:

    @Politics_PR
    GREAT JOBS REPORT: UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FALLS TO 7.5%, BIG UPWARD REVISIONS, 165,000 NEW JOBS http://ow.ly/kFNfC

    But according to BBC website, the Commission is forecasting France will fall into recession.

    Think Hollande's going to need Dutch courage over the next 12 months.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    BenM said:

    Meanwhile, in the land where Austerity is eschewed:

    @Politics_PR
    GREAT JOBS REPORT: UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FALLS TO 7.5%, BIG UPWARD REVISIONS, 165,000 NEW JOBS http://ow.ly/kFNfC


    Good news for the world economy, but the US has not eschewed austerity, indeed they have implemented more than us.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/27/business/as-budget-cuts-loom-austerity-kills-off-government-jobs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    still, never let this get in the way of political posturing.


  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Have you got a link?
    MikeL said:

    UKIP has actually won 103 seats out of 1824 per Rob's brilliant spreadsheet!

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Plato said:

    Dylan Sharpe @dylsharpe
    Oh look, it's Natalie "we'll get more councillors than UKIP" Bennett. After 18 councils declared UKIP have 52 cllrs, Greens 6...

    The Green party has well in excess of 150 Cllrs across the UK, most of them werent up for election yesterday. It looks tight as to which of UKIP or the Greens will be able to claim to have most Cllrs tomorrow.

  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    The next two years will be interesting for Mr Farage. He now has a whole host of local councilors both to lead and control. I would imagine a whole host of them are going to very independent thinking and may struggle with the rigors of being a local councilor and the duties involved including dealing with very dull and petty constituent issues. Its easy to be a councilor on paper, but being a councilor does involve a lot of work and a lot of tact.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    The NOC party always seem to perform pretty solidly
  • RobD
    Thanks for that info - was trying to do two things at same time
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Thrasher on Sky News now.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    I honestly thought the Greens would do better.

    That the Greenies lost 2 seats in Norfolk surprised me - but then they beheaded the Warks Tory leader so its been swings and roundabouts!

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,403

    Have you got a link?

    MikeL said:

    UKIP has actually won 103 seats out of 1824 per Rob's brilliant spreadsheet!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0An6GzfHRNpYQdEhrZ3V5a0VSRWNEM3dyNktCQm1RSlE&toomany=true#gid=0
  • Plato said:

    Kent

    UKIP take all Folkestone and Sheppey Seats and most of Swale. They also take Romney in Kent Make further inroads into Tunbridge Wells (clearly outraged). The Boston scenario seems to be happening along the Kent Coast.

    Thanet is surely prime Kipper ground?
    Indeed it's where I was brought up (and of course Ted Heath's childhood home). Its perfect for UKIP. The rumours about 7 gains wouldn't surprise me at all. It will be interesting to see what happens in Dover as well (sadly the site seems to have gone down.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2013
    UKIP hold Keele in Staffs by 2 votes.

    Unusual territory for UKIP, being a university area.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,560

    Labour can still hope for a maj of 1 in Nottinghamshire looking at the seats still to be declared if they oust the Indies in Mansfield

    UKIP claiming they gained 2 Lab seats in Mansfield N (they were close 2nd last time) - interesting pattern as in South Shields of Tory tactical voting for UKIP.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    FULL recount in Doncaster for mayor - wow - its that close...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Thrasher prediction: Labour on 325 seats in mid-term.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Derbyshire good for Labour in terms of seats

    43 seats
    38 in 2005
    43 in 2001
    44 in 1997
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    edited May 2013
    oops...
  • dragontreedragontree Posts: 27
    NW Leicestershire
    Labour gains in Coalville, Measham, Ibstock & Appleby, Whtiwick and strong showing in Ashby dela Zouch meaning Labour regained position they lost.

    Loughborough - Nicky Morgan not smiling
    Labour gained two loughborough wards, UKIP squeezing the votes in shepshed, quorn and mountsorrel, tory councillors holding on with small majorities. No way with a ukip candidate and her no vote for a referenedum is she going to hold on.

    labour overturned a 1000 tory majority in thurmaston sending shockaves a bedrock tory ward.

    ukip picked up glenfields it first seat. The north of the county is the bellweather and it looks like andrew brdigen and nicky morgan have two years left before they are back in surrey.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    UKIP vote performance much better than forecast but I think seat conversion actually worse.

    Anthony Wells said well over 100 seats for UKIP (after crossing out earlier post saying 250). In fact they've only just scraped past 100.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Total recount in Doncaster
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    Nope, I was right, NOC hold Northumberland. Lab 1 short!
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    Plato said:

    Daniel Furr ‏@DanielFurrUK 1m
    Harriet Harman effectively rules out a referendum and states Labour would oppose one.

    Of course it's still 50/50

    LOL...

    Hattie also claimed on Sky that Labour were "the party with momentum" - I mean seriously? Who is she kidding?
    It's not just the momentum that matters, it's the trajectory.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    @Nick

    Nottinghamshire overall is disappointing. I didn't have time to look at divisions in detail though
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2013
    @MikeL

    What matters for UKIP is vote share, not councillors.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Is big lesson of this that UKIP is not evenly spread - they have done very well in quite a small number of Counties.

    This will enable UKIP to target at GE (and basically forget about much of the country).

    But this also means other parties know where they need to campaign against UKIP.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2013
    RobD said:

    Nope, I was right, NOC hold Northumberland. Lab 1 short!

    Labour just missed Notts too IIRC - and failed to get Cumbria, even Foot managed that one.

    A dismal set of results for the Red Team. The Tories have been squished into NOC by Kippers who bypassed Labour entirely. Fascinating stuff.

  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    corporeal said:

    The NOC party always seem to perform pretty solidly

    No, they were nearly wiped out in 2009.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,403
    edited May 2013
    MikeL said:

    Is big lesson of this that UKIP is not evenly spread - they have done very well in quite a small number of Counties.

    This will enable UKIP to target at GE (and basically forget about much of the country).

    But this also means other parties know where they need to campaign against UKIP.

    Thurrock/Eastleigh targets for next GE ?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2013
    Final result for ESxCC - Con 20 (-9) LD 10 (-3) UKIP 7 (+7) Lab 7 (+3) Indy 5 (+2)
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    edited May 2013
    SeanT said:


    Until yesterday your main argument for saying Farage was crap and UKIP irrelevant was that "they don't have any councillors, unlike the Greens."

    Sigh, you change what you think my argument about Farage was all the time. Last year I pointed out that winning zero net seats was a poor show and indicated organisational failures. If you think zero net gains on poll rating far higher than the Greens was in fact an organisational triumph then you are welcome to your opinion. I never said that because they were organised badly in the past they would never be able to sort themselves out in the future. I specifically remember pointing out that this wasnt rocket science and that the Tories should worry if and when UKIP did get their act together.
  • dragontreedragontree Posts: 27
    Leicestershire

    Another worry for nicky morgan and andrew bridgen two tory mps in marginals is that all the labour footsoldiers were being asked to help campaign in notts/derbyshire. so what will labour do with the right resources?
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Sky protection for a general election:

    Lab 325
    Con 247
    L/D 52
    Oth 26

    That would surely end in a Lib-Lab coalition. How well do we think that will work out for Miliband and Clegg?
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Nick

    Labour won Mansfield North
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251

    Plato said:

    Kent

    UKIP take all Folkestone and Sheppey Seats and most of Swale. They also take Romney in Kent Make further inroads into Tunbridge Wells (clearly outraged). The Boston scenario seems to be happening along the Kent Coast.

    Thanet is surely prime Kipper ground?
    Indeed it's where I was brought up (and of course Ted Heath's childhood home). Its perfect for UKIP. The rumours about 7 gains wouldn't surprise me at all. It will be interesting to see what happens in Dover as well (sadly the site seems to have gone down.
    Labour have gained two Dover town seats off the Tories (to add to the two Deal town seats taken) boosting their hopes of retaking Dover and Deal in GE 2015. So more grist to the mill that their targeting strategy works ie they are doing enough in their key marginal areas while doing badly enough elsewhere to make their one nation (stolen off the Tories) mantra look a bit hollow. So in their book Labour are doing well despite not doing well if you know what I mean.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2013
    Cumbria was not a realistic Labour target right now. LibDems are now too strong in Farron la la land. It's a perennial NOC as long Farron is around.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,834
    Plato said:

    FULL recount in Doncaster for mayor - wow - its that close...

    Is that still for the first preferences? If so, I'm guessing it must be very close for 2nd/3rd (as well as perhaps 1st/2nd)? it was of course very close in 2009 too.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    CON hold Leicestershire
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Socrates said:

    Sky protection for a general election:

    Lab 325
    Con 247
    L/D 52
    Oth 26

    That would surely end in a Lib-Lab coalition. How well do we think that will work out for Miliband and Clegg?

    If you take out the Shinners, that's a Labour majority.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    welshowl said:

    BenM said:

    Meanwhile, in the land where Austerity is eschewed:

    @Politics_PR
    GREAT JOBS REPORT: UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FALLS TO 7.5%, BIG UPWARD REVISIONS, 165,000 NEW JOBS http://ow.ly/kFNfC

    But according to BBC website, the Commission is forecasting France will fall into recession.

    Think Hollande's going to need Dutch courage over the next 12 months.
    German government papers leaked to Handelsblatt see France labelled as "Europe's problem child".

    A leaked internal briefing from Angela Merkel's coalition partners refers to President Francois Hollande as "meandering" and draws attention to France's "highly regulated labour market and highly developed social security system".

    Details of the briefing note were published alongside an internal assessment from the German economics ministry, which listed the French economy's failings.

    The ministry's paper said: "French industry is increasingly losing its competitiveness. The relocation of companies abroad continues. Profitability is meagre."

    ...

    The German economics ministry's briefing draws attention to France's high wage costs.
    It points out that France has the "second lowest annual working time" in the European Union, while its "tax and social security burden" is the highest in the eurozone. It also warns that France has made too little investment in research and development.


    We must all take note that when Merkel speaks of "EU competitiveness" she means much the same as Cameron does when he talks of a "new settlement".
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Janan Ganesh ‏@JananGanesh 3m

    Ed Miliband simply must restore stewardship of his twitter account from whichever GCSE poet is currently bossing it.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour fail to take Lancashire. Confirmed as NOC.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Plato said:

    FULL recount in Doncaster for mayor - wow - its that close...

    Is that still for the first preferences? If so, I'm guessing it must be very close for 2nd/3rd (as well as perhaps 1st/2nd)? it was of course very close in 2009 too.
    It went to 2nd prefs about 2hrs ago so it must be vvv close to start all over again now
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,682
    Nottinghamshire update

    46 seats counted (out of 67)

    Tories 20 (-6)
    Labour 18 (+8)
    LD 6 (-1)
    Ind 1 (NC)
    Other 1 (NC)
    UKIP 0 (-1)
  • MikeL said:

    Is big lesson of this that UKIP is not evenly spread - they have done very well in quite a small number of Counties.

    This will enable UKIP to target at GE (and basically forget about much of the country).

    But this also means other parties know where they need to campaign against UKIP.

    Ironically it seems UKIP is at its strongest along the coastal region facing Europe :- Lincs, Norfolk, Essex, Kent.........

    Already its clear Sheppey, Swale, Boston, Folkestone are future targets
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited May 2013
    Plato said:

    Final result for ESxCC - Con 20 (-9) LD 10 (-3) UKIP 7 (+7) Lab 7 (+3) Indy 5 (+2)

    Interesting that the Kippers are all on the coastal belt:

    http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/yourcouncil/localelections/electionmap/default.aspx

    On those numbers the Tories could form a coalition with either UKIP or the LibDems. Or perhaps try to run the council as a minority administration, although that looks difficult.

  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2013
    David

    First prefs.

    Labour and Davies are way ahead of everybody else according to BBC man. Davies asked to re-recheck first prefs because it's very tight between him and Lab. Every vote can count..even the ones in the wrong column

    I suppose Con and others may transfer to him to keep Labour out. But if he's high, they have probably been squeezed in first prefs
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    Socrates said:

    Sky protection for a general election:
    Lab 325
    Con 247
    L/D 52
    Oth 26

    Not sure how Sky are doing that and whether you need to adjust for government recovery, but IIUC that's pretty much the same as you'd expect from Rod's by-election swing-back method (plus common sense for the LD score).
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    CON hold Suffolk
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,560

    @Nick

    Nottinghamshire overall is disappointing. I didn't have time to look at divisions in detail though

    Lots of variation. In retrospect we should have targeted Tory seats like Beauvale and Toton more and LibDem seats like Kimberley less - the Tory vote is massively down in most places, but the LibDems are holding. I'm confident about how Broxtowe would work out on these sort of figures because of the Lib/Lab tactical stuff if the election was now.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    MikeL said:

    Is big lesson of this that UKIP is not evenly spread - they have done very well in quite a small number of Counties.

    This will enable UKIP to target at GE (and basically forget about much of the country).

    But this also means other parties know where they need to campaign against UKIP.

    Ironically it seems UKIP is at its strongest along the coastal region facing Europe :- Lincs, Norfolk, Essex, Kent.........

    Already its clear Sheppey, Swale, Boston, Folkestone are future targets
    Ironic? Nonsense, they know the neighbours better.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Paul Francis @PaulOnPolitics
    Latest from County Hall - Cons on 40, 3 short of a majority #kccelection
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322

    Socrates said:

    Sky protection for a general election:

    Lab 325
    Con 247
    L/D 52
    Oth 26

    That would surely end in a Lib-Lab coalition. How well do we think that will work out for Miliband and Clegg?

    If you take out the Shinners, that's a Labour majority.
    Not for long with by-election losses.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    BBC have

    Vacant 0 0 1 0

    good performance for the Vacant Party!
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,560
    UKIP Mansfield rumour was wrong - both Labour holds.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    CON hold Surrey
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    edited May 2013
    SeanT said:

    Mark Wallace ‏@wallaceme 12h
    Never let them tell you politics is divisive. Almost everyone is united in mirth at the Bridgwater South Lib Dem getting zero votes.

    Didn't they even vote for themselves?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Gove: Labour doing worse than under Foot!

    Foot won Lancashire and Cumbria!
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Plato said:

    Final result for ESxCC - Con 20 (-9) LD 10 (-3) UKIP 7 (+7) Lab 7 (+3) Indy 5 (+2)

    Interesting that the Kippers are all on the coastal belt.

    On those numbers the Tories could form a coalition with either UKIP or the LibDems. Or perhaps try to run the council as a minority administration, although that looks difficult.

    Thought it was interesting that we've two more indies as well - Kippers took Hailsham, Telscombe & Peacehaven both seats, Ouse Valley, Seaford, Bexhill Offa, and Pevensey
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Latest Updates13:55 - A second recount is underway in West Bridgford Central and South"

    https://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/election2013
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Sky projection is based on a GE TODAY!!!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Steve Carr held Beeston North with a large majority:

    LD 1606
    Lab 1053
    Con 313
    UKIP 277
    Green 172

    https://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/Election2013/division/beeston-north
  • @anotherdave

    The irony of it all is that it is happening exactly where you'd expect it to happen but that the Westminster political commentariat didn't have a clue and are surprised by it. THATS THE IRONY It happened under their very noses and they didn't see it coming. They could not see the bleedin' obvious as always........
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    When a party is reported to have received zero votes it's almost always a tabulation error.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,403
    SeanT said:

    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    Mark Wallace ‏@wallaceme 12h
    Never let them tell you politics is divisive. Almost everyone is united in mirth at the Bridgwater South Lib Dem getting zero votes.

    Didn't they even vote for themselves?
    That's what the tweet implies. Hilarious if true.
    May well not be eligible to vote... alot of councillors live outside their ward.
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited May 2013
    Plato said:


    Thought it was interesting that we've two more indies as well - Kippers took Hailsham, Telscombe & Peacehaven both seats, Ouse Valley, Seaford, Bexhill Offa, and Pevensey

    One of the Indies is a former Conservative mayor and councillor from Bexhill, who runs a local bakery business:

    http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/bexhill-news/stuart-earl-to-stand-for-council-1-2320422
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited May 2013

    Socrates said:

    Sky protection for a general election:
    Lab 325
    Con 247
    L/D 52
    Oth 26

    Not sure how Sky are doing that and whether you need to adjust for government recovery, but IIUC that's pretty much the same as you'd expect from Rod's by-election swing-back method (plus common sense for the LD score).
    Sky claim it is an extrapolation of the known vote shares from yesterday's council elections.

    So it does not take into account any 'swingback'.

    A very dismal performance from Labour in the circumstances and indicative that a 2015 overall majority is very unlikely.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,029
    BBC eating my dust, as usual today :')
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    SeanT said:


    So, now they are organised, that means Farage is good?

    No, SeanT, it really doesnt change anything I have ever posted on this issue.
  • CopperSulphateCopperSulphate Posts: 1,119
    I wonder if the rise of UKIP might provide the long term detox strategy that the Tories need in the anti-Tory parts of the country.

    Labour and the left in general have spent almost all their time and energy for the last 50 years telling everyone how evil and nasty the Tories are and rely on people voting for them "to stop the Tories getting in". Now a new right-leaning party is hoovering up voters they're going to have to modify that tactic a bit. "The Tories are evil and er...so are UKIP as well" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
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