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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,414
    edited March 6
    It's notable that deficit goes right down to 1.2% in 28/29 but that only causes debt to level off at an increased level.
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    anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,583

    kinabalu said:

    Looks like Labour should have saved their Non Dom policy for the manifesto. Lessons learnt hopefully.

    Nah it's fine. Plenty more to go for amongst the rich. An 8% (=NI rate) surcharge on individual investment income would be valid. Might as well do the same for pensions too once Labour have a 300 seat majority - or at least a 2% surcharge on higher rate pension income.

    Plus, they can still bring forward the non-Dom abolition timetable.

    Charge NI on all forms of income and to people over pension age, higher rate of CGT on property other than primary residence, bring in hotel tax on tourists (widely found elsewhere), bring back cap on pension tax relief, there are loads of options. Not that anyone will advocate them before the election of course but afterwards.....
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,730
    edited March 6
    Is there anything more weedy than putting forward a motion condemning a Labour proposed extension of the windfall tax in a parliament you’ve spent years devaluing, while sitting on your hands in the big hoose as your own government does the same?


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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    Leon said:

    Colin said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    And his stocks are about to tank too. Hes an infallible contrarian indicator.
    I’ve invested in US tech, world tech, a US tracker, and India as a mad punt. Up so far

    Absolutely no one can predict what the AI revolution is going to do. It’s Sui generis

    But the explosion of AI means tech, despite the bubble, is definitely as good a medium-long term
    bet as any

    If the revolution is overwhelming (quite possible) then everything will be worthless - don’t even invest in a pension. It’s pointless
    US tech is about as bubbly as it gets right now.
    There are better value ways to play AI in the short term, I think.
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,446
    I'm getting FB ads from the Labour Party written in Comic Sans!
    I've torn up my membership card.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,251

    Colin said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    We are in a bind. Our economy depends on mass immigration but it costs the tories votes in their core supporters.
    Build. More. Houses.
    On. Brownfield. Sites.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    One thing I think we can all agree on is you swerving the issue and issuing insults = your interlocutor is bang on the money.

    As I am here.

    And this usually presages the next phase so by all means pass comment on my age, cultural background, predilections, and mental capacity.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,414
    Faisal: Canary Wharf skyscrapers to receive levelling up funds.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 57,252

    Hopefully Reeve will paraphrase Dr Johnson in her response: "Your budget is both sensible and original in part. Unfortunately, the parts that are sensible are not original..."

    I'd prefer her to say: "Indeed it is sir - but a very fine one, for I celebrated last night the encyclopedic implementation of my pre-meditated orchestration of demotic Anglo-Saxon."
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    MikeL said:

    Faisal: Canary Wharf skyscrapers to receive levelling up funds.

    Are they going to demolish them ?
    A bit expensive to raise the surrounding area.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,875

    viewcode said:

    kinabalu said:

    Looks like Labour should have saved their Non Dom policy for the manifesto. Lessons learnt hopefully.

    If thats the only thing they have as a policy they shouldnt bother standing
    Oh I'm sure they have policies, and I'm sure they'll tell us and expect us to be impressed. But they will differ from the Blues in detail, not substance.
    It's just 5 more years of continuity Sunak.
    Ah it's Gypsy Rose Alan Brooke.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 57,252
    MikeL said:

    It's notable that deficit goes right down to 1.2% in 28/29 but that only causes debt to level off at an increased level.

    Unless the debt can be refinanced at lower levels of interest, yes.
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    anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,583

    Foxy said:

    Can someone point out the Tory cuts?

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1765312942973632750

    image

    There are more people but their salaries have dropped considerably in real terms I guess. That is how the cuts materialise.

    I have had some treatment at a well-known NHS hospital in London recently - the staff were good but obviously rushed off their feet, the buildings are shabby, the toilets dirty and the furniture and equipment looked at least 10 years old.

    It doesn't say much for how the Tories have mismanaged the NHS. More money and staff, but wasted by poor productivity because of failure to invest in capital equipment or training.
    Part of the problem in hospitals of course is the complete collapse of the GP service. My surgery accepts enquiries only by email (3-5 day timescale for reply, often missed). You can try to phone but you will be in a queue for which reaches absurd lengths - can be 20 or 30 callers. If you manage to get through you might be given a telephone appointment - probably with a nurse rather than a doctor - in a week or two. It's hopeless - for anything urgent I would just go straight to A&E and I guess most people do the same. In fact when I was at a hospital (for another reason) the other day I saw a sign pointing to "urgent GP service".
    Yesterday my wife called the surgery just after 8am. Was 16th in the queue. Held on, got through, and was given an appointment for 9am. Not too shabby.
    There are always exceptions....

    My wife uses our GP service fairly frequently - or tries to - as she is diabetic, I use it less often but neither of us has had an on the day appointment for many years - 2-3 weeks ahead seems to be the norm for GPs, perhaps less for a nurse.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    edited March 6

    Foxy said:

    Can someone point out the Tory cuts?

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1765312942973632750

    image

    There are more people but their salaries have dropped considerably in real terms I guess. That is how the cuts materialise.

    I have had some treatment at a well-known NHS hospital in London recently - the staff were good but obviously rushed off their feet, the buildings are shabby, the toilets dirty and the furniture and equipment looked at least 10 years old.

    It doesn't say much for how the Tories have mismanaged the NHS. More money and staff, but wasted by poor productivity because of failure to invest in capital equipment or training.
    Part of the problem in hospitals of course is the complete collapse of the GP service. My surgery accepts enquiries only by email (3-5 day timescale for reply, often missed). You can try to phone but you will be in a queue for which reaches absurd lengths - can be 20 or 30 callers. If you manage to get through you might be given a telephone appointment - probably with a nurse rather than a doctor - in a week or two. It's hopeless - for anything urgent I would just go straight to A&E and I guess most people do the same. In fact when I was at a hospital (for another reason) the other day I saw a sign pointing to "urgent GP service".
    Yesterday my wife called the surgery just after 8am. Was 16th in the queue. Held on, got through, and was given an appointment for 9am. Not too shabby.
    There are always exceptions....

    My wife uses our GP service fairly frequently - or tries to - as she is diabetic, I use it less often but neither of us has had an on the day appointment for many years - 2-3 weeks ahead seems to be the norm for GPs, perhaps less for a nurse.
    That's surprising don't most GPs keep some on the day appointments for "urgent" cases. ie if you ring up that morning you can usually expect to be seen that morning/day.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,625

    Good Lady Wifey pleased with the measures for the UK film industry.

    Although, not expecting luvvies to rush to Rishi's side.

    I don't know.

    My son fresh with his MA in Digital Video Journalism from Cardiff University School of Journalism agrees with her. I suspect he is diametrically opposite both in terms of earnings and political leaning, but he liked that element of the budget nonetheless.
    Some serious suppositions in there! She's from Glasgow, remember.
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 16,116

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,481
    edited March 6

    kinabalu said:

    Looks like Labour should have saved their Non Dom policy for the manifesto. Lessons learnt hopefully.

    Nah it's fine. Plenty more to go for amongst the rich. An 8% (=NI rate) surcharge on individual investment income would be valid. Might as well do the same for pensions too once Labour have a 300 seat majority - or at least a 2% surcharge on higher rate pension income.

    Plus, they can still bring forward the non-Dom abolition timetable.

    Plus removal or reduction of higher rate tax relief on pension contributions. Probably best not to advertise that in the manifesto though.
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,481
    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    Doesn't help per capita. As not only Britain is finding out:


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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,790
    Well.

    NEW energy minister criticises key Budget measure… that’s a first…

    I agree with Douglas.
    There is much in this budget to welcome. Much that is good for Scotland and our United Kingdom. And only the Conservatives have a plan.

    However, the extension of the EPL is deeply disappointing. I will be working with him to resolve this.


    https://x.com/faisalislam/status/1765386719266812052?s=46
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    That is quite a variety of divergence.

    By my count Trump's actual margin in the primaries has underperformed that predicted by the polls by:
    0-5%: AL, IA, TX
    6-10%: CA, ME, NH, SC
    10-15%: MA, MI, OK, TN, UT
    16-20%: -
    20% or more: MN, VA, VT (an astonishing 34%)

    ...and he outperformed pre-primary polling only in NC.

    https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1765260529294246108
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,251
    I have now discovered that the very nice Mr Hunt has given us £14,462,213 from the Levelling Up Fund.

    Not only will I be voting Conservative, I will be actively campaigning for the lovely Philip Davies.
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    anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,583
    TOPPING said:

    Foxy said:

    Can someone point out the Tory cuts?

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1765312942973632750

    image

    There are more people but their salaries have dropped considerably in real terms I guess. That is how the cuts materialise.

    I have had some treatment at a well-known NHS hospital in London recently - the staff were good but obviously rushed off their feet, the buildings are shabby, the toilets dirty and the furniture and equipment looked at least 10 years old.

    It doesn't say much for how the Tories have mismanaged the NHS. More money and staff, but wasted by poor productivity because of failure to invest in capital equipment or training.
    Part of the problem in hospitals of course is the complete collapse of the GP service. My surgery accepts enquiries only by email (3-5 day timescale for reply, often missed). You can try to phone but you will be in a queue for which reaches absurd lengths - can be 20 or 30 callers. If you manage to get through you might be given a telephone appointment - probably with a nurse rather than a doctor - in a week or two. It's hopeless - for anything urgent I would just go straight to A&E and I guess most people do the same. In fact when I was at a hospital (for another reason) the other day I saw a sign pointing to "urgent GP service".
    Yesterday my wife called the surgery just after 8am. Was 16th in the queue. Held on, got through, and was given an appointment for 9am. Not too shabby.
    There are always exceptions....

    My wife uses our GP service fairly frequently - or tries to - as she is diabetic, I use it less often but neither of us has had an on the day appointment for many years - 2-3 weeks ahead seems to be the norm for GPs, perhaps less for a nurse.
    That's surprising don't most GPs keep some on the day appointments for "urgent" cases. ie if you ring up that morning you can usually expect to be seen that morning/day.
    Yes I suspect you are right, it's just that what with long telephone queues, a very limited number of appointments and aggressive receptionists whose job often seems to be to keep people away from doctors it's pretty hard to get one.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 61,033
    edited March 6

    They are playing for November. I am convinced there will be another autumn statement, now.

    I think there is no doubt after today
    Boats.
    I had to read that twice - I thought you said something else. !!!!
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    PhilPhil Posts: 2,000
    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    I think the point of that quote was to emphasise that German secure comms are & were still secure. It’s this one meeting that was leaked (& maybe others where people have done the same thing?) where an idiot phoned into a secure meeting on an insecure line. So the total exposure is both limited & knowable - they can probably go back through all the conference calls & look at the logs to find the ones where people have called in from a landline & go through the transcripts to see what’s probably been compromised.

    They do have some questions to answer about why making an insecure connection to a conference call where secret squirrel material is being discussed is allowed at all - that option shouldn’t even be available imo.
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    SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 625
    TOPPING said:

    Foxy said:

    Can someone point out the Tory cuts?

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1765312942973632750

    image

    There are more people but their salaries have dropped considerably in real terms I guess. That is how the cuts materialise.

    I have had some treatment at a well-known NHS hospital in London recently - the staff were good but obviously rushed off their feet, the buildings are shabby, the toilets dirty and the furniture and equipment looked at least 10 years old.

    It doesn't say much for how the Tories have mismanaged the NHS. More money and staff, but wasted by poor productivity because of failure to invest in capital equipment or training.
    Part of the problem in hospitals of course is the complete collapse of the GP service. My surgery accepts enquiries only by email (3-5 day timescale for reply, often missed). You can try to phone but you will be in a queue for which reaches absurd lengths - can be 20 or 30 callers. If you manage to get through you might be given a telephone appointment - probably with a nurse rather than a doctor - in a week or two. It's hopeless - for anything urgent I would just go straight to A&E and I guess most people do the same. In fact when I was at a hospital (for another reason) the other day I saw a sign pointing to "urgent GP service".
    Yesterday my wife called the surgery just after 8am. Was 16th in the queue. Held on, got through, and was given an appointment for 9am. Not too shabby.
    There are always exceptions....

    My wife uses our GP service fairly frequently - or tries to - as she is diabetic, I use it less often but neither of us has had an on the day appointment for many years - 2-3 weeks ahead seems to be the norm for GPs, perhaps less for a nurse.
    That's surprising don't most GPs keep some on the day appointments for "urgent" cases. ie if you ring up that morning you can usually expect to be seen that morning/day.
    I tried to get an e-consultation at my local surgery . After filling in lots of details on my on-line form, I was then told to download some ID (driving license or passport). I downloaded a screenshot of driving license but the form wouldn't accept it as not all 4 corners were visible. What??? You could see my photo and name and the same shot had been accepted by WEA recently to enroll on a course. I then gave up.

    There is now going to be a private surgery locally apparently where for a £100 fee you get a fast track appointment. My GP is one of those spearheading it. I am inclined to think they are making it as difficult as possible for people to get a consultation.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 61,033

    Hopefully Reeve will paraphrase Dr Johnson in her response: "Your budget is both sensible and original in part. Unfortunately, the parts that are sensible are not original..."

    Isn't that the case in her own recent publications?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    Phil said:

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    I think the point of that quote was to emphasise that German secure comms are & were still secure. It’s this one meeting that was leaked (& maybe others where people have done the same thing?) where an idiot phoned into a secure meeting on an insecure line. So the total exposure is both limited & knowable - they can probably go back through all the conference calls & look at the logs to find the ones where people have called in from a landline & go through the transcripts to see what’s probably been compromised.

    They do have some questions to answer about why making an insecure connection to a conference call where secret squirrel material is being discussed is allowed at all - that option shouldn’t even be available imo.
    IOW they don't have a secure 'system', but if they recognised that, it might be fixable.

    “The game of cat and mouse has returned,” said one western intelligence officer. “Russian activities  are as high or higher than during the cold war,” said another. “Russian intelligence is a huge machine and back doing what it always did,” said a third.
    https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1765272301778452628
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 33,148

    Hopefully Reeve will paraphrase Dr Johnson in her response: "Your budget is both sensible and original in part. Unfortunately, the parts that are sensible are not original..."

    Isn't that the case in her own recent publications?
    Yes, good point! Maybe she'll skip that line.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 45,629
    edited March 6
    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    Malfunction between keyboard and chair

    Interestingly, the Gestapo ENIGMA net was never broken because they had a policy of "Break security rules and become a private on the Russian Front"

    EDIT: Mandating and enforcing end-to-end encryption is pretty basis, these days. There shouldn't be a way round it for the users.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,147

    They are playing for November. I am convinced there will be another autumn statement, now.

    I think there is no doubt after today
    Boats.
    I had to read that twice - I thought you said something else. !!!!
    Boats.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    I dont think thats what people in Scunthorpe thought they were voting for.
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,446
    MikeL said:

    It's notable that deficit goes right down to 1.2% in 28/29 but that only causes debt to level off at an increased level.

    That's largely because of the way that borrowing is measured, with various wrinkles created by accounting conventions (eg treatment of student loans, accruals vs cash accounting methods). The debt data by contrast are very much cash flow based. So one way of understanding this apparent anomaly is that borrowing is higher than as recorded: lies, damn lies and statistics, and all that. But debt is a much more well defined concept, so the key thing to look at is whether the debt trajectory is sustainable. Even by 28/29 debt is still going up by almost £100bn/year, which is just consistent with a falling debt/GDP ratio.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,875
    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    'Spot That Brexit Benefit' has potential as a computer game imo. It plunges you into a thick forest armed with a machete. You hack your way through it on the lookout for the eponymous, represented by a small glowing ball like the Golden Snitch in Quidditch. The game is over when you snaffle it. Years and years of fun.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,503

    Well.

    NEW energy minister criticises key Budget measure… that’s a first…

    I agree with Douglas.
    There is much in this budget to welcome. Much that is good for Scotland and our United Kingdom. And only the Conservatives have a plan.

    However, the extension of the EPL is deeply disappointing. I will be working with him to resolve this.


    https://x.com/faisalislam/status/1765386719266812052?s=46

    Andrew Bowie: Rebel Rebel.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,875
    Nigelb said:

    That is quite a variety of divergence.

    By my count Trump's actual margin in the primaries has underperformed that predicted by the polls by:
    0-5%: AL, IA, TX
    6-10%: CA, ME, NH, SC
    10-15%: MA, MI, OK, TN, UT
    16-20%: -
    20% or more: MN, VA, VT (an astonishing 34%)

    ...and he outperformed pre-primary polling only in NC.

    https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1765260529294246108

    Shy sane people.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    kinabalu said:

    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    'Spot That Brexit Benefit' has potential as a computer game imo. It plunges you into a thick forest armed with a machete. You hack your way through it on the lookout for the eponymous, represented by a small glowing ball like the Golden Snitch in Quidditch. The game is over when you snaffle it. Years and years of fun.
    Blue passports my friend blue passports.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 49,494
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Colin said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    And his stocks are about to tank too. Hes an infallible contrarian indicator.
    I’ve invested in US tech, world tech, a US tracker, and India as a mad punt. Up so far

    Absolutely no one can predict what the AI revolution is going to do. It’s Sui generis

    But the explosion of AI means tech, despite the bubble, is definitely as good a medium-long term
    bet as any

    If the revolution is overwhelming (quite possible) then everything will be worthless - don’t even invest in a pension. It’s pointless
    US tech is about as bubbly as it gets right now.
    There are better value ways to play AI in the short term, I think.
    Which are?

    I've tried to get my head around it, but I can't see how anyone supplants the tech giants - Amazon, MS, Nvidia, Apple, Google, Meta, Musk Inc

    They are so far ahead and so rich they can simply buy any smaller rivals, unless they come from China or maybe the EU, which might defend them, but even then the USA is so big it will prosper in comparison


    This is, BTW, spare money I gained unexpectedly. I've invested for the medium-term, not for short term profit

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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Colin said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    And his stocks are about to tank too. Hes an infallible contrarian indicator.
    I’ve invested in US tech, world tech, a US tracker, and India as a mad punt. Up so far

    Absolutely no one can predict what the AI revolution is going to do. It’s Sui generis

    But the explosion of AI means tech, despite the bubble, is definitely as good a medium-long term
    bet as any

    If the revolution is overwhelming (quite possible) then everything will be worthless - don’t even invest in a pension. It’s pointless
    US tech is about as bubbly as it gets right now.
    There are better value ways to play AI in the short term, I think.
    Which are?

    I've tried to get my head around it, but I can't see how anyone supplants the tech giants - Amazon, MS, Nvidia, Apple, Google, Meta, Musk Inc

    They are so far ahead and so rich they can simply buy any smaller rivals, unless they come from China or maybe the EU, which might defend them, but even then the USA is so big it will prosper in comparison


    This is, BTW, spare money I gained unexpectedly. I've invested for the medium-term, not for short term profit

    Apple and google dont look so hot at present. Watch how they trade.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917
    Phil said:

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    I think the point of that quote was to emphasise that German secure comms are & were still secure. It’s this one meeting that was leaked (& maybe others where people have done the same thing?) where an idiot phoned into a secure meeting on an insecure line. So the total exposure is both limited & knowable - they can probably go back through all the conference calls & look at the logs to find the ones where people have called in from a landline & go through the transcripts to see what’s probably been compromised.

    They do have some questions to answer about why making an insecure connection to a conference call where secret squirrel material is being discussed is allowed at all - that option shouldn’t even be available imo.
    So the German military bought the industry-standard secure online conference call system, then configured it so that people could dial in via a phone line, and that *that* was the vector that caught them out only once?

    They’re hoping that this disclosure is better than saying they were running a whole load more Webex settings, that might allow random people to join in online with nothing more than a reference number.

    I call bullsh!t.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
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    FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,047
    edited March 6
    carnforth said:

    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    Doesn't help per capita. As not only Britain is finding out:


    Of course it is still possible, with immigration, to have falling GDP per capita and yet everyone be better off. The immigrants, while poorly paid in their new home, may still be better off then they were in their former home, while the value they generate may help to raise the standard of living of the natives in their new home.

    It's like the old joke about the migration of New Zealanders to Australia raising the IQ of both countries:

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/10/16/iq/
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
    I love how you think how me dissing Kinabalus comical views is evidence of some giant cloak and dagger strategy. Maybe a bit paranoid.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,875
    Colin said:

    kinabalu said:

    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    'Spot That Brexit Benefit' has potential as a computer game imo. It plunges you into a thick forest armed with a machete. You hack your way through it on the lookout for the eponymous, represented by a small glowing ball like the Golden Snitch in Quidditch. The game is over when you snaffle it. Years and years of fun.
    Blue passports my friend blue passports.
    Not to mention the Big One - the ruination of the Tory Party.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
    I love how you think how me dissing Kinabalus comical views is evidence of some giant cloak and dagger strategy. Maybe a bit paranoid.
    Oh god no by all means diss Kinabalus's comical views. Everyone does it, and for obvious reasons.

    But, and I'm sorry if it sounds a touch self-regarding, we are, on average, a bright bunch here and therefore just thought I'd give a few pointers how to proceed.

    Patience is the key.

    As I said, good luck.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    kinabalu said:

    Colin said:

    kinabalu said:

    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    'Spot That Brexit Benefit' has potential as a computer game imo. It plunges you into a thick forest armed with a machete. You hack your way through it on the lookout for the eponymous, represented by a small glowing ball like the Golden Snitch in Quidditch. The game is over when you snaffle it. Years and years of fun.
    Blue passports my friend blue passports.
    Not to mention the Big One - the ruination of the Tory Party.
    Well who cares about them. I may appoint rees mogg as my butler after the election.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    ,
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Colin said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    And his stocks are about to tank too. Hes an infallible contrarian indicator.
    I’ve invested in US tech, world tech, a US tracker, and India as a mad punt. Up so far

    Absolutely no one can predict what the AI revolution is going to do. It’s Sui generis

    But the explosion of AI means tech, despite the bubble, is definitely as good a medium-long term
    bet as any

    If the revolution is overwhelming (quite possible) then everything will be worthless - don’t even invest in a pension. It’s pointless
    US tech is about as bubbly as it gets right now.
    There are better value ways to play AI in the short term, I think.
    Which are?

    I've tried to get my head around it, but I can't see how anyone supplants the tech giants - Amazon, MS, Nvidia, Apple, Google, Meta, Musk Inc

    They are so far ahead and so rich they can simply buy any smaller rivals, unless they come from China or maybe the EU, which might defend them, but even then the USA is so big it will prosper in comparison


    This is, BTW, spare money I gained unexpectedly. I've invested for the medium-term, not for short term profit

    Those who can most profitably leverage its use in the short/medium term.
    And who aren't on the nosebleed valuations of big tech.

    I don't do stock recommendations, but think (eg) biotech; aerospace.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917

    carnforth said:

    FF43 said:

    One reason for the better growth numbers: OBR forecast of net immigration raised from 245k a year to 315k a year ....

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1765373355509633263

    Yes that un-ironically is the only Brexit benefit: more immigration and we didn't even need to do Brexit to get it.
    Doesn't help per capita. As not only Britain is finding out:


    Of course it is still possible, with immigration, to have falling GDP per capita and yet everyone be better off. The immigrants, while poorly paid in their new home, may still be better off then they were in their former home, while the value they generate may help to raise the standard of living of the natives in their new home.

    It's like the old joke about the migration of New Zealanders to Australia raising the IQ of both countries:

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/10/16/iq/
    No, you’re including the originating donor country of the immigrants in your calculations. “Remittances” are imports, money earned in the UK being sent abroad.

    From a UK perspective, a falling GDP per capita makes everyone worse off, and that’s before second-order effects such as increased housing costs and longer healthcare waiting lists.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,191
    Nikki Haley quits the race and quotes Margaret Thatcher

    https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1765395074282557604
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    AverageNinjaAverageNinja Posts: 1,169
    Not enough to shift the dial
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
    I love how you think how me dissing Kinabalus comical views is evidence of some giant cloak and dagger strategy. Maybe a bit paranoid.
    It fits the regular pattern.
    As does multiple posting as soon as you join the site.

    If you're an innocent newb, then that would be the real surprise. As Topping says, learn to play yourself in.
    This isn't 20/20.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 26,101

    I have now discovered that the very nice Mr Hunt has given us £14,462,213 from the Levelling Up Fund.

    Not only will I be voting Conservative, I will be actively campaigning for the lovely Philip Davies.

    Hmm. Philip Davies, the thinking right-winger's Andrew Bridgen.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,925
    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,191
    Sandpit said:

    Phil said:

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    I think the point of that quote was to emphasise that German secure comms are & were still secure. It’s this one meeting that was leaked (& maybe others where people have done the same thing?) where an idiot phoned into a secure meeting on an insecure line. So the total exposure is both limited & knowable - they can probably go back through all the conference calls & look at the logs to find the ones where people have called in from a landline & go through the transcripts to see what’s probably been compromised.

    They do have some questions to answer about why making an insecure connection to a conference call where secret squirrel material is being discussed is allowed at all - that option shouldn’t even be available imo.
    So the German military bought the industry-standard secure online conference call system, then configured it so that people could dial in via a phone line, and that *that* was the vector that caught them out only once?

    They’re hoping that this disclosure is better than saying they were running a whole load more Webex settings, that might allow random people to join in online with nothing more than a reference number.

    I call bullsh!t.
    https://www.newsweek.com/nato-russia-ukraine-china-germany-tapping-espionage-huawei-1876138

    The military in NATO ally Germany is offering communications apps to soldiers and other federal employees on Chinese phone maker Huawei's app store — even though the telecoms giant has been deemed a security risk by the U.S. and European Union, Newsweek can reveal.
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    squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,428
    All pensioners like me will.
    be pissed off. Vote Labour.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 45,629

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She's playing the long game. Be the one standing when Trumpism goes down.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,404

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    The insanity there is not having end to end encryption. Even if the landline passed through Putin's office, they shouldn't have been able to get anything.
    If Nadine Dorries reads PB, this is why you need end-to-end encryption. It is not just for criminals.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,087

    For a minute I thought he was going to abolish NI then.

    So did I. What he said about making things simpler, in respect of the 2% reduction in NI, doesn’t make sense. It’s no less complicated just because the rate is smaller.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    Nigelb said:

    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
    I love how you think how me dissing Kinabalus comical views is evidence of some giant cloak and dagger strategy. Maybe a bit paranoid.
    It fits the regular pattern.
    As does multiple posting as soon as you join the site.

    If you're an innocent newb, then that would be the real surprise. As Topping says, learn to play yourself in.
    This isn't 20/20.
    Boycott used to play himself in but he sent the crowd to sleep.
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    RattersRatters Posts: 903
    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 45,629

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    The insanity there is not having end to end encryption. Even if the landline passed through Putin's office, they shouldn't have been able to get anything.
    If Nadine Dorries reads PB, this is why you need end-to-end encryption. It is not just for criminals.
    "Well the laws of Australia prevail in Australia, I can assure you of that. The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917

    Sandpit said:

    Phil said:

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    Blimey, that's even more stupid than I thought.

    "Our communication systems were not compromised"
    Do they not realise that idiot users are part of systems - and usually its weakest part ?

    I think the point of that quote was to emphasise that German secure comms are & were still secure. It’s this one meeting that was leaked (& maybe others where people have done the same thing?) where an idiot phoned into a secure meeting on an insecure line. So the total exposure is both limited & knowable - they can probably go back through all the conference calls & look at the logs to find the ones where people have called in from a landline & go through the transcripts to see what’s probably been compromised.

    They do have some questions to answer about why making an insecure connection to a conference call where secret squirrel material is being discussed is allowed at all - that option shouldn’t even be available imo.
    So the German military bought the industry-standard secure online conference call system, then configured it so that people could dial in via a phone line, and that *that* was the vector that caught them out only once?

    They’re hoping that this disclosure is better than saying they were running a whole load more Webex settings, that might allow random people to join in online with nothing more than a reference number.

    I call bullsh!t.
    https://www.newsweek.com/nato-russia-ukraine-china-germany-tapping-espionage-huawei-1876138

    The military in NATO ally Germany is offering communications apps to soldiers and other federal employees on Chinese phone maker Huawei's app store — even though the telecoms giant has been deemed a security risk by the U.S. and European Union, Newsweek can reveal.
    Whoops!
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 64,468
    Colin said:

    Nigelb said:

    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    Thanks mum. I knew I could rely on you
    You probably think that you are the belwether on immigration and how _this time_ it will herald the end of the UK as we know it.

    But you are wrong. There has always been immigration into the UK and now you get the situation whereby a guy who shouts at a probable Islamist terrorist "you ain't no Muslim, bruv" is considered quintessentially British.

    For someone who believes themselves so acutely attuned to new trends and oncoming paradigm shifts, in this area you seem to be stuck on the back of one of John Major's old maid's bicycles.
    What the fuck is this gibberish?
    Let me summarise.

    For someone who believes they see into the future your posts on immigration show that you are irrevocably stuck in the past.
    Your opinions are neither interesting nor novel nor amusingly expressed. But hey. There’s room for all on PB
    He fits in well on here. Kinabalus endless lectures on misogyny I find amusing. His wife has disappeared to Malaysia to escape them.
    Yeah I mean not bad at all.

    That reasonableness, who could possibly disagree with that line, perhaps the odd say what comment. Not bad at all.

    But press me and I would say that it is all a bit forced, too hurried. I mean look at us lot, it takes time to play yourself in so if I had a word of advice I'd say pace yourself. Play the long game. Reasonable comments and then after a few months, perhaps, jump in with a truly wtf pronouncement after we have all been lulled in and say well Colin said it so it must be so.

    Don't be impatient iow.

    Good luck.
    I love how you think how me dissing Kinabalus comical views is evidence of some giant cloak and dagger strategy. Maybe a bit paranoid.
    It fits the regular pattern.
    As does multiple posting as soon as you join the site.

    If you're an innocent newb, then that would be the real surprise. As Topping says, learn to play yourself in.
    This isn't 20/20.
    Boycott used to play himself in but he sent the crowd to sleep.
    Now you're getting it; that's the point.
    You don't want us awake.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917
    Ratters said:

    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.

    NI is going to be a total pain in the arse to actually abolish, thanks to a whole load of legislation around pensions etc.

    The hope is that it trends to 1% over time, which is both progressive* and equalises earned vs unearned income.

    *Most 20% taxpayers don’t realise there’s an upper limit, and that most 40% taxpayers only pay 2% NI contributions.
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    kjhkjh Posts: 10,911
    edited March 6
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Colin said:

    Muesli said:

    Colin said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Re London’s nightlife. Covid definitely had a massive effect. As did Brexit to a much lesser extent

    But london has also gone from a Muslim population of ~300,000 to ~1,400,000 in 20 years. Muslims don’t drink or go to clubs. Or if they go to clubs they don’t drink. So nightlife dies

    You can see this is in the widespread closure of pubs in tower hamlets etc

    Many may welcome this change. Especially old nimbys who hate noise. Good for them and god speed - but I don’t. If I want a quiet sober Muslim city I’ll go to Fez. London is meant to be a buzzing world city or it is nothing

    Its yet another tragic consequence of an insanely cavalier immigration policy; imagining that importing ten million people with a very different culture will have no effect

    The non-Muslim population of London has also increased over the past twenty years, so I call bullshit.
    I hope you see the statistical error here
    No error. You've said the Muslim population of London has increased by 1.1 million over 20 years. But the total population of London has increased by around 1.8 million in that time. So the non-Muslim population has also increased.

    I look forward to your prompt and effusive apology.
    At the turn of the century about one in twelve Londoners were Muslims, now it's around one in six
    Sure - the percentage of Londoners who are Muslims has increased and you can have various arguments over whether that's good, bad or neutral.

    But Leon's specific point was that there is less of a market for nightclubs in London now because the absolute number of Muslims living in London has increased. But the fatal flaw in that argument is that the absolute number of non-Muslims living in London has also increased. Not by as much, but it's increased.

    So it doesn't explain the phenomenon Leon has apparently noticed (which, as a reminder, is that he has less fun in London now he's an old fart).
    Yes but these tend to be black africans, indians and east asians none of whom are renowned for their partying lifestyle. So the basic point is correct.
    I'm old enough to remember when immigrants were criticised for having too much of a partying lifestyle! Now apparently a sober hard-working attitude is their crime.
    This site is starting to develop a monomaniacle obsession with immigrants and Muslims that is both disturbing and boring.
    I don't think it's this site developing a monomaniacal obsession with immigrants and Muslims; it's one loudmouth boor with a tedious and somewhat pathetic need to try and hijack every thread with a bizarre cocktail of holiday snaps and tendentious attention-seeking, like the bastard lovechild of Judith Chalmers and Jeremy Clarkson but without the subtlety or finesse.
    And his stocks are about to tank too. Hes an infallible contrarian indicator.
    I’ve invested in US tech, world tech, a US tracker, and India as a mad punt. Up so far

    Absolutely no one can predict what the AI revolution is going to do. It’s Sui generis

    But the explosion of AI means tech, despite the bubble, is definitely as good a medium-long term
    bet as any

    If the revolution is overwhelming (quite possible) then everything will be worthless - don’t even invest in a pension. It’s pointless
    US tech is about as bubbly as it gets right now.
    There are better value ways to play AI in the short term, I think.
    Which are?

    I've tried to get my head around it, but I can't see how anyone supplants the tech giants - Amazon, MS, Nvidia, Apple, Google, Meta, Musk Inc

    They are so far ahead and so rich they can simply buy any smaller rivals, unless they come from China or maybe the EU, which might defend them, but even then the USA is so big it will prosper in comparison


    This is, BTW, spare money I gained unexpectedly. I've invested for the medium-term, not for short term profit

    Things change. Decades ago I worked for one of the 'BUNCH', the big mainframe manufacturers. Named so because they were all huge, but still dwarfed by IBM. The one I worked for at one point had over 200,000 employees. What is left of it is about 15,000 strong. All except IBM have effectively disappeared. None of the new giants were around then (well MS might have been two guys in a garage). Ten or twenty years from now it might all be different again.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,925
    IanB2 said:

    For a minute I thought he was going to abolish NI then.

    So did I. What he said about making things simpler, in respect of the 2% reduction in NI, doesn’t make sense. It’s no less complicated just because the rate is smaller.
    Presumably he is setting it up to be a manifesto commitment in the next Parliament. I thought it was going to a big rabbit out of hat moment though.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,503
    Ratters said:

    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.

    So with Sunak:

    NI - Increase/Decrease
    Energy Windfall Levy - Terrible idea/Lets do it anyway
    Non Doms - As above

    Plan to attack Starmer - can't think of much, he got away with his korma, lets call him a flip flopper, bound to work if we keep repeating it ad nauseum.

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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,191
    edited March 6
    Sandpit said:

    Ratters said:

    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.

    NI is going to be a total pain in the arse to actually abolish, thanks to a whole load of legislation around pensions etc.

    The hope is that it trends to 1% over time, which is both progressive* and equalises earned vs unearned income.

    *Most 20% taxpayers don’t realise there’s an upper limit, and that most 40% taxpayers only pay 2% NI contributions.
    Abolishing employers' contributions as a first step would be a good way to make salaries more transparent.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,087
    Ratters said:

    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.

    And there’s still employers’ NI, so he’s only tinkering with half of it.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    edited March 6
    Colin said:

    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Too soon.

    Before you jump in with undermining western liberal democracy (we've already had your comment on immigration, which was pretty clumsy) you need at least six weeks of opining on Scottish sub-samples with some arch observations about Dundee South.

    THEN the whole country would be better off under a dictatorship what's with all these foreigners-type posts.

    I am really trying to help here but sometimes people are their own worst enemies.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 34,497
    @TomLarkinSky

    We're running a panel of 2019 Tory voters with @SamCoatesSky + @YouGov to get their Budget reactions.

    These are THE key voters. And their first response is damning:

    ❌ "Absolutely farcical"
    ❌ "A great vote-loser"
    ❌ "Not bold enough"
    ❌ "Waste of time. Time for them to go"
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Too soon.

    Before you jump in with undermining western liberal democracy (we've already had your comment on immigration, which was pretty clumsy) you need at least six weeks of opining on Scottish sub-samples with some arch observations about Dundee South.

    THEN the whole country would be better off under a dictatorship what's with all these foreigners-type posts.

    I am really trying to help here but sometimes people are their own worst enemies.
    Ask me to comment for 6 weeks on scottish subsamples and i would desire a move to north korea for the excitement.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,917

    Sandpit said:

    Ratters said:

    It's quite the swing in approach on NI. Sunak as chancellor almost increased it to 13.25% and now it's dropping to 8%.

    Still too expensive to abolish in one go, but an interesting shift.

    NI is going to be a total pain in the arse to actually abolish, thanks to a whole load of legislation around pensions etc.

    The hope is that it trends to 1% over time, which is both progressive* and equalises earned vs unearned income.

    *Most 20% taxpayers don’t realise there’s an upper limit, and that most 40% taxpayers only pay 2% NI contributions.
    Abolishing employers' constributions as a first step would be a good way to make salaries more transparent.
    Absolutely, but employer NI is an even bigger nightmare as it raises £100bn a year yet most people don’t really see it.

    As David Cameron said, it’s quite literally a tax on jobs.

    (I’m always torn between the US system of most people writing a cheque every year for their taxes, and the UK system of most people just seeing them deducted at source).
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,147

    Nikki Haley quits the race and quotes Margaret Thatcher

    https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1765395074282557604

    Conspicuously didn’t throw her support or even give her personal vote to Trump. Used Lady Thatcher to handbag Trump. 👜
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    anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,583

    All pensioners like me will.
    be pissed off. Vote Labour.

    Yes the budget doesn't offer anything much to pensioners. From April the basic state pension will be £11,502 so anyone with a private pension of more than £1,068 will be dragged into the income tax net. There must be many more pensioners paying income tax now than was the case when tax allowances were frozen in 2022.
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,446
    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Too soon.

    Before you jump in with undermining western liberal democracy (we've already had your comment on immigration, which was pretty clumsy) you need at least six weeks of opining on Scottish sub-samples with some arch observations about Dundee South.

    THEN the whole country would be better off under a dictatorship what's with all these foreigners-type posts.

    I am really trying to help here but sometimes people are their own worst enemies.
    Yes he really needs to be putin in the hours in terms of groundwork.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,503
    Scott_xP said:

    @TomLarkinSky

    We're running a panel of 2019 Tory voters with @SamCoatesSky + @YouGov to get their Budget reactions.

    These are THE key voters. And their first response is damning:

    ❌ "Absolutely farcical"
    ❌ "A great vote-loser"
    ❌ "Not bold enough"
    ❌ "Waste of time. Time for them to go"

    I think the budget was reasonable given the starting point, but it is clear that virtually no-one is listening to the Tories anymore or giving them benefit of the doubt or time at all.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,875
    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    She might be the epitome of that particular thing that's wrong with current US politics - but it's possible to spot a bigger one if you've been to specsavers.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 21,503

    All pensioners like me will.
    be pissed off. Vote Labour.

    Yes the budget doesn't offer anything much to pensioners. From April the basic state pension will be £11,502 so anyone with a private pension of more than £1,068 will be dragged into the income tax net. There must be many more pensioners paying income tax now than was the case when tax allowances were frozen in 2022.
    We could always fix that by reducing the state pension?
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 16,158
    Last night yours truly asked "Colin", he are you (yet another lame) Putin bot?

    Never did get an answer. However, it was a rhetorical question, as answer was clear by "Colin's" second post or thereabouts.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70

    Nikki Haley quits the race and quotes Margaret Thatcher

    https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1765395074282557604

    Conspicuously didn’t throw her support or even give her personal vote to Trump. Used Lady Thatcher to handbag Trump. 👜
    Shes ruined her chance of VP now.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,790

    NEW THREAD

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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,888
    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Too soon.

    Before you jump in with undermining western liberal democracy (we've already had your comment on immigration, which was pretty clumsy) you need at least six weeks of opining on Scottish sub-samples with some arch observations about Dundee South.

    THEN the whole country would be better off under a dictatorship what's with all these foreigners-type posts.

    I am really trying to help here but sometimes people are their own worst enemies.
    Ask me to comment for 6 weeks on scottish subsamples and i would desire a move to north korea for the excitement.
    "desire a move", eh? What would have been the prompt for that, I wonder.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,251
    Colin said:

    TOPPING said:

    Colin said:

    Sandpit said:

    Haley is a very impressive politician. It shows the rot in the GOP that they would rather have Trump as their nominee over her.

    She is only 52 - a spring chicken in US politics! I hope she gets the chance to run as a nominee one day.

    She’s the epitome of everything wrong with US politics, the dominance of big money in election campaigns, and totally devoid of opinions except for those of her paymasters.
    These are my opinions but pay me enough and i will develop others. Democracy is a mess isnt it.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Too soon.

    Before you jump in with undermining western liberal democracy (we've already had your comment on immigration, which was pretty clumsy) you need at least six weeks of opining on Scottish sub-samples with some arch observations about Dundee South.

    THEN the whole country would be better off under a dictatorship what's with all these foreigners-type posts.

    I am really trying to help here but sometimes people are their own worst enemies.
    Ask me to comment for 6 weeks on scottish subsamples and i would desire a move to north korea for the excitement.
    There is a direct sleeping-car between Moscow and Pyongyang in North Korea twice a month provided by the North Korean Railways.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 57,252

    Scott_xP said:

    @TomLarkinSky

    We're running a panel of 2019 Tory voters with @SamCoatesSky + @YouGov to get their Budget reactions.

    These are THE key voters. And their first response is damning:

    ❌ "Absolutely farcical"
    ❌ "A great vote-loser"
    ❌ "Not bold enough"
    ❌ "Waste of time. Time for them to go"

    I think the budget was reasonable given the starting point, but it is clear that virtually no-one is listening to the Tories anymore or giving them benefit of the doubt or time at all.
    I think that's the point.

    I thought it was rather good, and Hunt delivered it very well, but people have simply stopped listening to them.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70
    Good comment here from Isabel Oakeshott

    The NHS is NOT the reason most of us are "proud to be British." The NHS was a great idea. It is no longer fit for purpose - as millions of people who cannot get the care they need can attest.
    1:56 PM · Mar 6, 2024
    ·
    17.5K
    Views

    https://x.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1765375876546392130?s=20
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 26,101
    ...
    viewcode said:

    ...My son fresh with his MA in Digital Video Journalism from Cardiff University School of Journalism....

    Is he a YouTuber?

    Not really.

    He has a few of his films on YouTube (I didn't get his Masters project, but his lecturers gave him a distinction (effectively a first) but he doesn't operate a YouTube channel. He's back as an Extra on Wolf Hall and Casualty now.

    When you see the new line up for Sky Breakfast with Wilfred Frost (son of David) as the anchor he has no chance, he really needs to get up and running with a YouTube channel.
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    ColinColin Posts: 70

    ...

    viewcode said:

    ...My son fresh with his MA in Digital Video Journalism from Cardiff University School of Journalism....

    Is he a YouTuber?

    Not really.

    He has a few of his films on YouTube (I didn't get his Masters project, but his lecturers gave him a distinction (effectively a first) but he doesn't operate a YouTube channel. He's back as an Extra on Wolf Hall and Casualty now.

    When you see the new line up for Sky Breakfast with Wilfred Frost (son of David) as the anchor he has no chance, he really needs to get up and running with a YouTube channel.
    Wil Frost is useless too. So boring. Nepotism at its finest.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 26,101
    edited March 6
    Colin said:

    Good comment here from Isabel Oakeshott

    The NHS is NOT the reason most of us are "proud to be British." The NHS was a great idea. It is no longer fit for purpose - as millions of people who cannot get the care they need can attest.
    1:56 PM · Mar 6, 2024
    ·
    17.5K
    Views

    https://x.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1765375876546392130?s=20

    Hmm, yesterday you were a full on Galloway fanboi, now Oakshott. Huh? A little consistency please, but well done on finding the Cap Locks key.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,563
    Phil said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This seems really strange from the German ambassador.

    Nothing to do with us, Guv.

    The German ambassador to the UK has said there is "no need to apologise" for security breaches which led to a call between top army officials being leaked by Russian sources.

    Miguel Berger told BBC Radio 4's Today programme one of the participants had likely dialled in via an insecure line.

    As a result, Russia was able to intercept the call, he said.

    In the audio, officials can be heard discussing details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine.

    Mr Berger hit back at criticism by former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, who said Germany was "pretty penetrated by Russian intelligence" and "neither secure nor reliable".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68488962

    Arguing that their communications were secure because someone got hacked phoning in via his hotel WIFI isn't the most convincing thing I've ever heard.
    Shoulda used Whatsapp?

    (I'm not up to date on it.)
    They didn’t get hacked because they used hotel WiFi - the Russians were able to listen into the call because a German officer phoned into a WebEx conference call from a hotel landline. A landline is unencrypted.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-defense-minister-blames-taurus-call-leak-officer-logging-via-insecure-hotel-line/

    Not doing the German officer corps’ reputation for competence any favours in the process tbh. I’m surprised the military even has the option to use a landline turned on given that it breaks all the security guarantees.
    I thought the German officer corps' reputation for competence ran out some time around 1900.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,563

    I have now discovered that the very nice Mr Hunt has given us £14,462,213 from the Levelling Up Fund.

    Not only will I be voting Conservative, I will be actively campaigning for the lovely Philip Davies.

    Today, or under Towns Fund etc?

    And who is "us"? Are you a facemask supplier?
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