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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    Nigelb said:

    Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

    Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

    Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
    Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.
    I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.
    But it’s not just about the actual answer to the legal point. It’s also about delaying the court case until after the election. It’s about sowing doubt. Any argument that does that works for Trump.
    What works best for the judges, though?

    I'm sure they have a healthy fear of Trump and the Trumpettes.

    But their role is also to fear the verdict of history, which requires a different set of conclusions.

    And doing nothing is an action in itself.
    I think most of them have long stopped worrying about the verdict of history.
    Eh, I think most of them still do. Trump seems to have been pretty mad they didn't ride to his rescue in 2020 as three of them 'owed' him, but there's only so far intelligent jurists are willing to go - it's why virtually all of the legal challenges in lower courts in 2020 failed including those before Trump appointees.

    I'm sure 6 of the Supreme Court want Trump to be President again (maybe 5), and might even be willing to fudge things a bit to indirectly aid that outcome if they could (as the three liberal justices would the other way), but the court still seems to have slightly more sense of history than the day to day politicians, and what they can get away with to advance their political goals.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370

    tlg86 said:
    Its a top idea. We built a stadium for Citeh, its only fair the red side of the city gets one as well.
    I have a better idea. They can ground share. Liverpool can also share with Everton and that new build repurposed. Far more efficient and a plan with no drawbacks.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?
    If you wear it in combination with Dyson headphones, you can look like this:

    https://twitter.com/HumansNoContext/status/1754243633925042450
    Has anyone here got the Dyson or Apple headphones? I refuse to believe they could possibly be worth double the price of my $450 Bose NC700s.
    I wasn’t aware that Dyson made them until seeing that tweet. Presumably they have a vacuum function to clean your ear canal.
    If I’m paying $900 for them, they’d better be good at sucking something.
    They are a rare commercial dud from Dyson.
    If you’re going up against Bose, Sony, and Apple, not to mention the off-brand noice-cancellers which are getting a lot better, you sure as hell want to make sure you have clearly the best product if you’re looking for such a massive premium. What were they thinking?
    I really don't know.

    It seems like they thought "well, we're all going to be wearing masks for ever due to Covid, so let's be the first to integrate one into a pair of headphones."

    Also, they forgot that there's a reason why Sony and Bose make their headphones as light as possible: it's because it's uncomfortable wandering around wearing headphones that weight the best part of a kilo.
    It sounds like Apple have also forgotten that lesson based on your comments about their goggles.
    The AVP is clearly a first generation product. It needs to come down in weight and it needs its weight to be better distributed. It also needs to auto adjust itself somehow: no one wants to spend two minutes adjusting the fit before the image comes into focus.

    Also: they need to sort out text input.

    On the other hand...

    It's a glimpse of a possible future, where we won't need screens on our desks. We will be able to simply pick up something no heavier than a pair of ski goggles, and get the best screens in the world.

    I watched some football highlights last night, on the equivalent of an Imax screen. It was insane. Why would I want to use a little phone or tablet when I carry around the world's greatest cinema.
    It sounds to me like all the use cases where it's actually useful involve being stationary rather than walking around wearing it. I can definitely see the appeal of having a home cinema or a multi-monitor workstation in a headset.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,725

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?
    If you wear it in combination with Dyson headphones, you can look like this:

    https://twitter.com/HumansNoContext/status/1754243633925042450
    Has anyone here got the Dyson or Apple headphones? I refuse to believe they could possibly be worth double the price of my $450 Bose NC700s.
    I wasn’t aware that Dyson made them until seeing that tweet. Presumably they have a vacuum function to clean your ear canal.
    If I’m paying $900 for them, they’d better be good at sucking something.
    They are a rare commercial dud from Dyson.
    If you’re going up against Bose, Sony, and Apple, not to mention the off-brand noice-cancellers which are getting a lot better, you sure as hell want to make sure you have clearly the best product if you’re looking for such a massive premium. What were they thinking?
    I really don't know.

    It seems like they thought "well, we're all going to be wearing masks for ever due to Covid, so let's be the first to integrate one into a pair of headphones."

    Also, they forgot that there's a reason why Sony and Bose make their headphones as light as possible: it's because it's uncomfortable wandering around wearing headphones that weight the best part of a kilo.
    It sounds like Apple have also forgotten that lesson based on your comments about their goggles.
    The AVP is clearly a first generation product. It needs to come down in weight and it needs its weight to be better distributed. It also needs to auto adjust itself somehow: no one wants to spend two minutes adjusting the fit before the image comes into focus.

    Also: they need to sort out text input.

    On the other hand...

    It's a glimpse of a possible future, where we won't need screens on our desks. We will be able to simply pick up something no heavier than a pair of ski goggles, and get the best screens in the world.

    I watched some football highlights last night, on the equivalent of an Imax screen. It was insane. Why would I want to use a little phone or tablet when I carry around the world's greatest cinema.
    It sounds to me like all the use cases where it's actually useful involve being stationary rather than walking around wearing it. I can definitely see the appeal of having a home cinema or a multi-monitor workstation in a headset.
    I’ve been trying to explain this to you for 36 hours, now
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370
    edited February 6
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?
    If you wear it in combination with Dyson headphones, you can look like this:

    https://twitter.com/HumansNoContext/status/1754243633925042450
    Has anyone here got the Dyson or Apple headphones? I refuse to believe they could possibly be worth double the price of my $450 Bose NC700s.
    I wasn’t aware that Dyson made them until seeing that tweet. Presumably they have a vacuum function to clean your ear canal.
    If I’m paying $900 for them, they’d better be good at sucking something.
    They are a rare commercial dud from Dyson.
    If you’re going up against Bose, Sony, and Apple, not to mention the off-brand noice-cancellers which are getting a lot better, you sure as hell want to make sure you have clearly the best product if you’re looking for such a massive premium. What were they thinking?
    I really don't know.

    It seems like they thought "well, we're all going to be wearing masks for ever due to Covid, so let's be the first to integrate one into a pair of headphones."

    Also, they forgot that there's a reason why Sony and Bose make their headphones as light as possible: it's because it's uncomfortable wandering around wearing headphones that weight the best part of a kilo.
    It sounds like Apple have also forgotten that lesson based on your comments about their goggles.
    The AVP is clearly a first generation product. It needs to come down in weight and it needs its weight to be better distributed. It also needs to auto adjust itself somehow: no one wants to spend two minutes adjusting the fit before the image comes into focus.

    Also: they need to sort out text input.

    On the other hand...

    It's a glimpse of a possible future, where we won't need screens on our desks. We will be able to simply pick up something no heavier than a pair of ski goggles, and get the best screens in the world.

    I watched some football highlights last night, on the equivalent of an Imax screen. It was insane. Why would I want to use a little phone or tablet when I carry around the world's greatest cinema.
    Exactly. As I’ve been saying - they will obviously replace all screens - once they sort out the weight and awkwardness issues

    They remind me of the very first mobiles. Remember them? Size of an actual brick and about as heavy? Within a few short years they were vastly smaller - the same will happen here, but probably even quicker, as the potential is so clear and any company left behind will end up like BlackBerry or Kodak, so competition will be intense. Apple have just fired the starting gun
    I wear glasses (sadly, varifocals these days) and there’s a lot of us about with a decent income. I already pay £400 a pop. Where are my smart glasses? Why can’t I just leave my phone in my pocket and have a heads up display? I think that’s the next thing, instead of something quite so immersive.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,225
    Trump however needs to get credit for banning abortion from pro life evangelicals and Roman Catholics as he needs them to turn out heavily for him in swing states
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited February 6
    rcs1000 said:

    stodge said:

    I have to say the "Popular Conservatism" event looks and sounds a bit like a meeting of Jacobites in Paris in the 1770s.

    Thinking they are important, thinking they still have something to say in which people will be interested and about as important to British politics as a Liberal Democrat Conference.

    Time for them to all shuffle quietly into the night or right if you prefer.

    Mark Littlewood used to be in the Liberal Democrats, as did Liz Truss.

    Not the Lib Dems finest hour. Both roughly who turned into fanatics, although Littlewood was always an economic ultra-liberal, and I understand Truss was a bit of a student-leftist.
    I have a lot of sympathy with the Truss people: yes, we absolutely should be thinking about getting things moving, rather than managing decline.

    What you can't do, though, is to ignore the very real structural issues that all developed economies face: in particular, the impact of demographic drag.

    And that's where I depart company from Popular Conservatism. If you can't admit what the problems are, you are unlikely to find solutions.
    I don't think, though, that things will get moving, with such weak investment.

    Hence so many businesspeople are supporting Labour's 28billion plan, not Truss's tax cuts plan.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    edited February 6
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?
    If you wear it in combination with Dyson headphones, you can look like this:

    https://twitter.com/HumansNoContext/status/1754243633925042450
    Has anyone here got the Dyson or Apple headphones? I refuse to believe they could possibly be worth double the price of my $450 Bose NC700s.
    I wasn’t aware that Dyson made them until seeing that tweet. Presumably they have a vacuum function to clean your ear canal.
    If I’m paying $900 for them, they’d better be good at sucking something.
    They are a rare commercial dud from Dyson.
    If you’re going up against Bose, Sony, and Apple, not to mention the off-brand noice-cancellers which are getting a lot better, you sure as hell want to make sure you have clearly the best product if you’re looking for such a massive premium. What were they thinking?
    I really don't know.

    It seems like they thought "well, we're all going to be wearing masks for ever due to Covid, so let's be the first to integrate one into a pair of headphones."

    Also, they forgot that there's a reason why Sony and Bose make their headphones as light as possible: it's because it's uncomfortable wandering around wearing headphones that weight the best part of a kilo.
    It sounds like Apple have also forgotten that lesson based on your comments about their goggles.
    The AVP is clearly a first generation product. It needs to come down in weight and it needs its weight to be better distributed. It also needs to auto adjust itself somehow: no one wants to spend two minutes adjusting the fit before the image comes into focus.

    Also: they need to sort out text input.

    On the other hand...

    It's a glimpse of a possible future, where we won't need screens on our desks. We will be able to simply pick up something no heavier than a pair of ski goggles, and get the best screens in the world.

    I watched some football highlights last night, on the equivalent of an Imax screen. It was insane. Why would I want to use a little phone or tablet when I carry around the world's greatest cinema.
    I'm not ready for it for sure, the world people like Apple and Facebook would like to build sounds nightmarish to me. A clear sign I've become an old grump, I even get mad at developments in entertainment peripherals.

    I was reading a sci-fi novel the other week and the bad guys were these anti-AI, anti-genetic manipulation types, and it was a good thing the book made sure to have them be called literal nazis and perform some brutal atrocities for no reason, as otherwise I had difficulty rooting against them.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,959
    biggles said:

    tlg86 said:
    Its a top idea. We built a stadium for Citeh, its only fair the red side of the city gets one as well.
    I have a better idea. They can ground share. Liverpool can also share with Everton and that new build repurposed. Far more efficient and a plan with no drawbacks.
    Our council funded a stadium for Doncaster Rovers (shared with rugby, admittedly).

    It is destined to be the best stadium in non-league football the way things are going.

    White Elephants all the way.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,225
    Harper said:

    boulay said:

    isam said:

    An unexpected endorsement…

    'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

    Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.



    https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Who is Holly Valance?
    She is the inventor of the bed linen people used to decorate the lower half of beds. Married to Nick Candy, the inventor of sweets.
    She was the super fit Flick on Neighbours
    Also in that Farage picture with Trump
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,284
    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    Was the salesperson wearing one, cos they saw you coming...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
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    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,979

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
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    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Free drinks? Well in that case Jacob...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    HYUFD said:

    Harper said:

    boulay said:

    isam said:

    An unexpected endorsement…

    'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

    Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.



    https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Who is Holly Valance?
    She is the inventor of the bed linen people used to decorate the lower half of beds. Married to Nick Candy, the inventor of sweets.
    She was the super fit Flick on Neighbours
    Also in that Farage picture with Trump
    Is she the new Australian cultural attache?
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    @JosiasJessop FPT

    That's wonderful news, and a tribute to the power of financial incentives.

    There's quite a history of innovation arising from prizes. I take it you know the story of Longitude?

    Yeah, Harrison and his clocks/watches.

    Prizes are interesting: the DARPA Grand Challenge arguably set off the rush for autonomous cars; the X-Prize suborbital commercial spaceflight. But the Google Lunar X_Prize was a big failure, with no team making it to the Moon, even after it was extended. I don't think any team has still made it, five years after it ended.

    I doubt anyone contributed to the Herculaneum prize for the money; it was because it was cool. I doubt Harrison did it solely for the money - though he was rightly aggrieved when he did not get it. For the prizes that individuals can contribute valuable insight to - as Casey Hander did with the scrolls - it is more about the challenge, and the money helps a) publicise and b) concentrate minds.

    I am still in awe of this. I daresay some on here wonder why I'm often so upbeat, given everything that's going on in the UK and the world. It's partly because there are still people who do this sort of thing.
    Couldn't agree more with the sentiment, JJ.

    Do you listen to the science epiodes on 'In Our Time'. They are awe-inspiring, although I suspect your personal awe doesn't need much inspiration.
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    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    Again, I'd certainly not say it's an attractive building. But having few or no windows on the side elevation of a house is hardly a new phenomenon in towns (even ignoring terraced housing which clearly can't have side windows except an end terrace which normally won't). This is partly structural, partly related to privacy.

    The windows on the side of that one will almost definitely be a non-dining kitchen or a bathroom with obscured glass. Will the natural light be any good... well, we don't know - they could have french doors onto the garden, in which case it'd be pretty good.
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    BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 18,822
    edited February 6
    Leon said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    But I don’t see new builds in other countries which are as hideous, cramped and windowless as in Britain. Even the worst American new housing - which can be really really bad - understands that humans like and require natural light

    Why is it always just us? Why are we like this?
    What an odd complaint.

    My new build has a big bay window that runs almost the entire width of the living room. The kitchen/diner wall to the garden is more glass than anything else, with glass double doors and large windows. And upstairs there's loads of windows.

    I get much more natural light in my new build house, than I ever got in my rented old, damp accommodation.

    So presumably you approve of that new build design then? Or are you just a miserable old man who doesn't want people to have a home of their own?

    Anyway, the solution is the same as always: liberate planning and let people decide. If people want bigger windows, then in a free market then people can choose bigger windows and firms that build homes with small windows will struggle to sell them. Competition works.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,582

    stodge said:

    I have to say the "Popular Conservatism" event looks and sounds a bit like a meeting of Jacobites in Paris in the 1770s.

    Thinking they are important, thinking they still have something to say in which people will be interested and about as important to British politics as a Liberal Democrat Conference.

    Time for them to all shuffle quietly into the night or right if you prefer.

    Both Mark Littlewood, and Liz Truss, used to actually be in the Liberal Democrats.

    Not the Lib Dem's finest hour. Both ex-moderates who turned into fanatics, although Littlewood was always an economic ultra-liberal, and as I understand it Truss was a bit of a student-leftwinger.
    Her swing was notorious
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Drinks? Hold on. Surely “the civil service should be chained to their desks” Mogg didn’t endorse this during the working day? That would be hypocritical.
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    biggles said:

    tlg86 said:
    Its a top idea. We built a stadium for Citeh, its only fair the red side of the city gets one as well.
    I have a better idea. They can ground share. Liverpool can also share with Everton and that new build repurposed. Far more efficient and a plan with no drawbacks.
    An even better idea. United can have the City of Manchester Stadium. Citeh can have the Joie Stadium.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,725

    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    Again, I'd certainly not say it's an attractive building. But having few or no windows on the side elevation of a house is hardly a new phenomenon in towns (even ignoring terraced housing which clearly can't have side windows except an end terrace which normally won't). This is partly structural, partly related to privacy.

    The windows on the side of that one will almost definitely be a non-dining kitchen or a bathroom with obscured glass. Will the natural light be any good... well, we don't know - they could have french doors onto the garden, in which case it'd be pretty good.
    You work for Persimmon, don’t you?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Foxy said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Free drinks? Well in that case Jacob...
    Many of the bottles from the 18th century no doubt.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,725

    Leon said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    But I don’t see new builds in other countries which are as hideous, cramped and windowless as in Britain. Even the worst American new housing - which can be really really bad - understands that humans like and require natural light

    Why is it always just us? Why are we like this?
    What an odd complaint.

    My new build has a big bay window that runs almost the entire width of the living room. The kitchen/diner wall to the garden is more glass than anything else, with glass double doors and large windows. And upstairs there's loads of windows.

    I get much more natural light in my new build house, than I ever got in my rented old, damp accommodation.

    So presumably you approve of that new build design then? Or are you just a miserable old man who doesn't want people to have a home of their own?

    Anyway, the solution is the same as always: liberate planning and let people decide. If people want bigger windows, then in a free market then people can choose bigger windows and firms that build homes with small windows will struggle to sell them. Competition works.
    Amazingly, I agree with you. On the whole

    And it’s good that you’ve got nice big windows. I don’t actually like to think of anyone having to suffer these tiny little rat-houses with no natural light. Ugh

    They genuinely depress me
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,665
    Foxy said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Free drinks? Well in that case Jacob...
    ... Who cares if your plans will leave us up a Creek?
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,665
    biggles said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Drinks? Hold on. Surely “the civil service should be chained to their desks” Mogg didn’t endorse this during the working day? That would be hypocritical.
    They're Conservative MPs.

    Drinking and plotting is their day job.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220

    @JosiasJessop FPT

    That's wonderful news, and a tribute to the power of financial incentives.

    There's quite a history of innovation arising from prizes. I take it you know the story of Longitude?

    Yeah, Harrison and his clocks/watches.

    Prizes are interesting: the DARPA Grand Challenge arguably set off the rush for autonomous cars; the X-Prize suborbital commercial spaceflight. But the Google Lunar X_Prize was a big failure, with no team making it to the Moon, even after it was extended. I don't think any team has still made it, five years after it ended.

    I doubt anyone contributed to the Herculaneum prize for the money; it was because it was cool. I doubt Harrison did it solely for the money - though he was rightly aggrieved when he did not get it. For the prizes that individuals can contribute valuable insight to - as Casey Hander did with the scrolls - it is more about the challenge, and the money helps a) publicise and b) concentrate minds.

    I am still in awe of this. I daresay some on here wonder why I'm often so upbeat, given everything that's going on in the UK and the world. It's partly because there are still people who do this sort of thing.
    Couldn't agree more with the sentiment, JJ.

    Do you listen to the science epiodes on 'In Our Time'. They are awe-inspiring, although I suspect your personal awe doesn't need much inspiration.
    :) Yeah, I listen to IoT when I'm out running or walking. There's so much great podcast material out there on science alone, I've got thousands of hours recorded and ready to listen to.

    There are lots of good history ones as well. As ever with life, too much to do, not enough time...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Carlson is interviewing Vlad the Strategic Genius.



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    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    Again, I'd certainly not say it's an attractive building. But having few or no windows on the side elevation of a house is hardly a new phenomenon in towns (even ignoring terraced housing which clearly can't have side windows except an end terrace which normally won't). This is partly structural, partly related to privacy.

    The windows on the side of that one will almost definitely be a non-dining kitchen or a bathroom with obscured glass. Will the natural light be any good... well, we don't know - they could have french doors onto the garden, in which case it'd be pretty good.
    Yes a lack of side-elevation windows is deliberate and universal in both new and old homes.

    If you had a large window on a side-elevation and so did your neighbour, you'd be looking into each other's homes when you look out your window and through your neighbours. Who wants that?

    We have large windows in two directions, none in one side (semi-detached so it'd be impossible) and small ones on the other side which is mainly the staircase and hallway anyway so only needs the small window for natural light.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    Lee Anderson MP, former Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party: "I'm pretty sure that coal 100 million years ago was trees and plants.. it was, well I would argue that's sustainable."

    https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1754896431461052886

    Coal was formed because there was nothing to digest the remnants of dead trees. They just accumulated in massive piles which eventually became coal. That wouldn't happen again as we now have wood-eating bacteria etc.
    Isn't that slightly arguable in that peat is still being formed, very slowly, in boggy areas? I mean, Anderson is clearly completely wrong to call that "sustainable" just in the sense that the rate of renewal is massively less than the rate of consumption.
    The rate of coal "production" is going to be much lower due to bacteria and funghi having evolved that "eat" dead trees. However, there will still be some, because most of those microorganisms need oxygen.
    The other problem is that we've been digging up a lot of the recent (post ice age) peat to put in grow bags and plant pots.

    Mostly this happens in Estonia & Ireland now rather than the UK as the damage has been done here.

    Restoring peat bogs is difficult (but some of us are trying).
    It's quite amazing to be up on the Peak District's tops and see helicopters with large bags slug underneath them, carrying materials to try to revegetate the eroded peat.
    Really? Interesting. In other areas, notably Scotland., the more usual technique is damming the dikes, so as to give the sphagnum a chance to regrow in the newly more wet conditions.
    Here's a report; I think it's for a later stage of restoration:
    https://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2010/05/12/helicopter-drop-for-critical-moss-in-moorland-trail
    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/helicopters-called-in-to-help-in-restoration-of-peat-moors-1869097

    Incidentally, I've also seen paving slabs ('traditionally' old floor slabs from mills) being taken up, slung under helicopters.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

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    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
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    pm215pm215 Posts: 944
    Harper said:

    pm215 said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    The problem is not "houses should be energy efficient", though -- the problem is we let builders get away with satisfying the regs with the absolute cheapest and nastiest possible design. You could have bigger windows which met the regs, but they'd cost the builders more. And people will bid the terrible housing up to "as much as we can afford a mortgage for" because we aren't building enough.
    Put it this way. In say the south of england for how many months do energy efficient homes really benefit you. At most a couple of months. Is it worth it. Why not build lighter and airier homes.
    If you don't have efficiency regs then the builders build cheap houses with lousy insulation which cost a fortune to heat in winter and overheat in summer. Which is differently cheap and nasty, not any better.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,405
    It’s amazing what passes for news these days


    https://x.com/metrouk/status/1754904432272085434?s=61
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

    Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

    Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
    Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.
    I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.
    They could actually run away from ruling on this one, couldn't they? They have absolute discretion not to hear cases without any explanation, in which case the appealed ruling stands.

    On the Colorado one, they couldn't really dodge it as Colorado were saying Trump was not constiutionally eligible to be President, but other states were saying he was. That has to be resolved in practical terms because Trump simply can't be eligible to be President in some states but not in others if the United States is to remain united.

    In this case, though, there's no conflict that really needs resolving. It's not the case that Trump is immune from criminal prosecution on federal charges in some parts of the US but not in others - maybe if there was a prosecution in Idaho, they'd rule immunity applied, but there isn't so that's pure conjecture.

    I think the Supreme Court will probably rule on this just on the importance of it, and because the justices are predominantly conservative and it buys Trump time (although they won't find for him as it is baseless). But I certainly don't rule out that they'd simply decline to take the case.
    How many days is it before silence is taken to imply that they decline?

    Or do they have to specifically say no?
    I don't think there is a formal deadline, but declining to take a case is an active decision in the sense that they'd simply publish a denial of the writ of certiorari.

    So what happens is the lower court has given the loser (Trump) has six days to file submit a petition for certiorari to the Supreme Court. The respondent (the prosecutor) has a month to respond but would be much quicker as this is basically just re-filing arguments already made. The Supreme Court meets regularly when it's in session to decide which cases to hear and which not to bother with (this would be entirely behind closed doors - it's purely administrative as they don't have to take any cases and indeed don't with 95%+ of them). The convention - and Roberts as Chief Justice isn't going to change it now - is that if four or more justices want to hear it, it's heard. Otherwise, they'd simply announce a denial with no reasoning.

    Normally, it takes the Supreme Court up to a month to go through that process. But they'll probably do it sooner - they won't want to be in a "will they, won't they" game.
    Don't they? I can think quite a few of them would be much happier to drag things out as much as possible, but if convention is if four want to hear it it goes then that does sound like it should be enough to overcome the draggers.
    The answer to that is that Roberts is Chief Justice and just isn't going to dick about. So essentially he'll run the administrative meeting and will say "right, you've all had a week to read the papers in this Trump matter... who wants to hear the case?" Either four of them do or not. It just isn't open to Thomas or Alito to say, "Maybe, ask us again in a couple of months". If their hands aren't up along with two others, Roberts will just get the denial issued post haste.

    Whilst the Supreme Court is six conservative to three liberal, it is also at least seven essentially normal to no more than two fruitcakes. Roberts is king of the essentially normals, and has the gavel to runs the process. He'll run it basically down the line. In that, he has the support of all three liberals (obviously) and all three Trump appointees (ironically).

    On the substance, the conservative justices will be under pressure, clearly. But, on immunity, I don't think there's a fig leaf available that will save Trump from at least a 7-2 loss if the case is taken. On eligibility, I think there is enough for him to win. It's a huge call to say Trump is, today, ineligible to be President. Not so much to say he isn't immune from criminal charges.
    Yes, the mood music seems to be that ineligibility is pretty improbable, but its much safer for them (and seemingly pretty legally sound) to confirm that Presidents are not completely immune from criminal liability. I can believe a lot of the Supreme Court, but why put their names to that concept without being a total fruitcake?
    I think people forget that, at least for Roberts, Kavanaugh, Coney-Barrett and Gorsuch, these are essentially highly capable legal minds with a conservative angle. They aren't ignorant of the political context, but are trying to get to the right answer from within their own perspective on the law.

    None of the three Trump justices was nodded through by the Senate, but not because they were legally ignorant or fundamentally corrupt. Gorsuch had trouble as tit-for-tat over the blocking of Garland just before the 2016 election (and got a few Democrat votes). Kavanaugh's personal conduct many years before probably did make him an unsuitable choice, but he was and is an able lawyer. While Coney-Barrett had votes against simply based on the Garland precedent (put up just before an election).

    On abortion, the Dobbs decision is highly controversial politically. But it isn't mad, legally, to argue that the 14th amendment doesn't provide a right to an abortion and that states can therefore restrict that right (although not the right to cross state lines). You can argue it the other way, but it's an interpretation of the law that is within a pretty standard conservative reading of the words as written, when they were written.

    As I say, they aren't blind to the context. But that means they'll take the fig leaf available on eligibility. They won't, I think, make Presidents immune from criminal charges for all time to help out a here today and dead tomorrow presidential candidate.

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    Rishi Sunak has been accused of personally holding up a deal to end doctors’ strikes in England despite warnings from the health department and NHS England that waiting lists will continue to soar unless the industrial dispute is resolved.

    Sources told the Guardian it had been made “abundantly and repeatedly” clear to the prime minister that there would be no progress on his pledge to drive down NHS waiting lists until a deal was struck.

    One official said Sunak had been a “blocker” to progress during talks with both consultants and junior doctors at the end of last year because of concerns that a more generous offer would result in calls for higher pay deals across the health service, in particular for nurses.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/06/rishi-sunak-accused-of-personally-holding-up-deal-to-end-doctors-strikes
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,371

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
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    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    He’s been pumping this thing all day. He works for GB News. It’s what they do. “Good authority”????
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    A cabin panel that blew off a brand-new Boeing 737 Max 9 jet mid-flight appeared to be missing four key bolts, according to an initial report by the US safety regulator.

    The bolts meant to hold the door plug in place were absent, the National Transportation Safety Board said. It released photographic evidence alongside the preliminary findings of its investigating on Tuesday.

    Boeing has tried to reassure regulators, airlines and passengers following the dramatic incident during an Alaska Airlines flight, which prompted 171 Max 9 jets to be grounded for several weeks. The plane maker conceded last week it has “more work to do” as it tries to repair its reputation.

    While the FAA later allowed Max 9 planes to return to service following inspections, it said it would not grant any production expansion of the wider Max program. On Monday the agency said 94% of the affected jets have now returned to the skies.


    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/06/faa-regulation-boeing-blowout?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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    Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 8,883

    E pluribus unum?

    ... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek. :)

    It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.
    I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

    My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.
    New visitors to the Site should note that TSE is an excessively modest man, and therefore omitted to mention that he also speaks fluent Rubbish, but prefers not to flaunt it.
    I speak fluent bollocks as well.
    I had heard you were cunnilingual
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584

    I'm probably a bit late to this but...

    Seems Liz Lettuce Truss has reminded us all how absolutely woeful she is at public speaking.

    Just dreadful speech to the PopTarts mini conference.



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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220

    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,143
    "Boeing: Bolts missing from door, says blowout report"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68220627
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    HYUFD said:

    Trump however needs to get credit for banning abortion from pro life evangelicals and Roman Catholics as he needs them to turn out heavily for him in swing states

    I just popped in after resting post my pacemaker operation this morning, and I don't think I have read such a horrible comment in a long time

    Back to resting
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    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
    Yeah the winding concept works really well and has been adopted in decent developments across the board it seems, precisely because it does work and is better.

    Shit, cheap, terraces though typically run in straight lines still.

    Also of course the LTN concept means that straight lines are less adoptable than they would have been in the past. In the past you could build grids of streets that all connected to each other and to arterial roads, but now estates tend to be LTNs with limited access points and can't be driven through to the other side, which makes straight line grids even less suitable.
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,688
    DougSeal said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
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    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    He’s been pumping this thing all day. He works for GB News. It’s what they do. “Good authority”????
    What would be useful re PopCon would be a brief but clear summary of three things:

    What are their core principles and beliefs - what is Conservatism?
    What are their central policies?
    How do they get from here to where they want to be, and make their central policies work, with regard to tax, spend, cuts, debt, and other awkward bits of reality?

    We can all do generalised uplift, and wish lists. It's the other bits that are missing; not only with PopCon, but with politics generally.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,548
    Andy_JS said:

    "Boeing: Bolts missing from door, says blowout report"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68220627

    Oh boy.

    There is no word for just how fucked Boeing is.

    At least with de Havilland the problems were confined to one specific thing on one type.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220
    Andy_JS said:

    "Boeing: Bolts missing from door, says blowout report"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68220627

    Other issues found recently as well, affecting 50 undelivered jets

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/problem-found-boeing-737-max-041338282.html
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288

    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
    Yeah the winding concept works really well and has been adopted in decent developments across the board it seems, precisely because it does work and is better.

    Shit, cheap, terraces though typically run in straight lines still.

    Also of course the LTN concept means that straight lines are less adoptable than they would have been in the past. In the past you could build grids of streets that all connected to each other and to arterial roads, but now estates tend to be LTNs with limited access points and can't be driven through to the other side, which makes straight line grids even less suitable.
    So nowhere like Notting Hill could be built now?
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,371
    algarkirk said:

    DougSeal said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    He’s been pumping this thing all day. He works for GB News. It’s what they do. “Good authority”????
    What would be useful re PopCon would be a brief but clear summary of three things:

    What are their core principles and beliefs - what is Conservatism?
    What are their central policies?
    How do they get from here to where they want to be, and make their central policies work, with regard to tax, spend, cuts, debt, and other awkward bits of reality?

    We can all do generalised uplift, and wish lists. It's the other bits that are missing; not only with PopCon, but with politics generally.
    We had a pretty brief and clear summary of their central economic policies in September and October 2022 did we not? Certainly stuck in my mind.
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    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
    Yeah the winding concept works really well and has been adopted in decent developments across the board it seems, precisely because it does work and is better.

    Shit, cheap, terraces though typically run in straight lines still.

    Also of course the LTN concept means that straight lines are less adoptable than they would have been in the past. In the past you could build grids of streets that all connected to each other and to arterial roads, but now estates tend to be LTNs with limited access points and can't be driven through to the other side, which makes straight line grids even less suitable.
    So nowhere like Notting Hill could be built now?
    I don't know the area so looked it up on Google Maps, yeah it looks largely like a grid layout, that goes against the LTN concept that homes are built to nowadays.
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    FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,049

    HYUFD said:

    Trump however needs to get credit for banning abortion from pro life evangelicals and Roman Catholics as he needs them to turn out heavily for him in swing states

    I just popped in after resting post my pacemaker operation this morning, and I don't think I have read such a horrible comment in a long time

    Back to resting
    Hope all went well, @Big_G_NorthWales!
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,166

    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
    Space-filling algorithm. There's a reason why your lungs aren't a grid.
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    Hey Big G, hope you're well after your operation.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,392
    Foxy said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
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    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    Free drinks? Well in that case Jacob...
    Jacob’s creaky patter a feature of the event no doubt
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    squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,397
    edited February 6
    So Gary Lineker is using twitter less because it is so toxic. He hasn't the brainpower to realise that if he stopped using it altogether it would be even less toxic. His tweets are the cause of a lot of tocixity as he deliberately stirs up trouble.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,284
    @realBenBloch

    🔥 Mark Littlewood, the former IEA boss spearheading the Popular Conservatives, was asked by @SophyRidgeSky if Liz Truss is popular.

    He replied: "I don't think she's popular as a person."

    He also described her time as PM as "a diabolical failure".
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    viewcode said:

    Why are no new build estates designed like this?

    image

    You mean rows of shitty terraces? Cheap and ugly ones are.
    When I was studying civil engineering, we were told that, for houses with gardens, you can fit as many houses in with winding access roads as you can with straight streets. You just end up with odd-shaped gardens. To prove this, we had a series of paper-cut out rectangles (houses), and two boards; one with with a winding street layout and with straight lines. Each plot had to have a certain area. The winding street layout felt 'better' and more organic.

    It surprised me as it's rather counter-intuitive.
    Space-filling algorithm. There's a reason why your lungs aren't a grid.
    I'd have thought that's because they're natural and expand, for which curves work well.

    When playing Tetris to get as much in a space as possible, I'd have always thought that square edges are better. However I think winding works because gardens don't have to be squared off.
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    HYUFD said:

    Trump however needs to get credit for banning abortion from pro life evangelicals and Roman Catholics as he needs them to turn out heavily for him in swing states

    I just popped in after resting post my pacemaker operation this morning, and I don't think I have read such a horrible comment in a long time

    Back to resting
    Hope all went well, @Big_G_NorthWales!
    Yes and I was home by 1.30pm

    However, tired and sore and resting for the next few days
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,548

    HYUFD said:

    Trump however needs to get credit for banning abortion from pro life evangelicals and Roman Catholics as he needs them to turn out heavily for him in swing states

    I just popped in after resting post my pacemaker operation this morning, and I don't think I have read such a horrible comment in a long time

    Back to resting
    Hope all went well, @Big_G_NorthWales!
    Yes and I was home by 1.30pm

    However, tired and sore and resting for the next few days
    Hoping the recovery period with lots of rest and pampering completes the cure 🤞
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989
    DougSeal said:

    algarkirk said:

    DougSeal said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    He’s been pumping this thing all day. He works for GB News. It’s what they do. “Good authority”????
    What would be useful re PopCon would be a brief but clear summary of three things:

    What are their core principles and beliefs - what is Conservatism?
    What are their central policies?
    How do they get from here to where they want to be, and make their central policies work, with regard to tax, spend, cuts, debt, and other awkward bits of reality?

    We can all do generalised uplift, and wish lists. It's the other bits that are missing; not only with PopCon, but with politics generally.
    We had a pretty brief and clear summary of their central economic policies in September and October 2022 did we not? Certainly stuck in my mind.
    1. Kill the Queen.
    2. ...
    3. Profit!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,024

    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    Again, I'd certainly not say it's an attractive building. But having few or no windows on the side elevation of a house is hardly a new phenomenon in towns (even ignoring terraced housing which clearly can't have side windows except an end terrace which normally won't). This is partly structural, partly related to privacy.

    The windows on the side of that one will almost definitely be a non-dining kitchen or a bathroom with obscured glass. Will the natural light be any good... well, we don't know - they could have french doors onto the garden, in which case it'd be pretty good.
    Yes a lack of side-elevation windows is deliberate and universal in both new and old homes.

    If you had a large window on a side-elevation and so did your neighbour, you'd be looking into each other's homes when you look out your window and through your neighbours. Who wants that?

    We have large windows in two directions, none in one side (semi-detached so it'd be impossible) and small ones on the other side which is mainly the staircase and hallway anyway so only needs the small window for natural light.
    I don't think that's the problem. The problem is the total surface area that is windows appears abnormally low. It must be hell in winter in a place like that.
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989

    Carlson is interviewing Vlad the Strategic Genius.



    'Are you an amazing brilliant strategist and politician?"

    'Yes.'

    'Well, there we have it ladies and gentlemen. Conclusive I'm sure you'll agree.'
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    So Gary Lineker is using twitter less because it is so toxic. He hasn't the brainpower to realise that if he stopped using it altogether it would be even less toxic. His tweets are the cause of a lot of tocixity as he deliberately stirs up trouble.

    TwiX is an absolute cesspool now. You think Linekar is the problem? OK, lets take off all the people like him and leave it to the conspiracy nutters, the alt-right, the lunatics etc etc.

    And see if it is less toxic.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    Can Biden make it through an election campaign?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    But I don’t see new builds in other countries which are as hideous, cramped and windowless as in Britain. Even the worst American new housing - which can be really really bad - understands that humans like and require natural light

    Why is it always just us? Why are we like this?
    What an odd complaint.

    My new build has a big bay window that runs almost the entire width of the living room. The kitchen/diner wall to the garden is more glass than anything else, with glass double doors and large windows. And upstairs there's loads of windows.

    I get much more natural light in my new build house, than I ever got in my rented old, damp accommodation.

    So presumably you approve of that new build design then? Or are you just a miserable old man who doesn't want people to have a home of their own?

    Anyway, the solution is the same as always: liberate planning and let people decide. If people want bigger windows, then in a free market then people can choose bigger windows and firms that build homes with small windows will struggle to sell them. Competition works.
    Amazingly, I agree with you. On the whole

    And it’s good that you’ve got nice big windows. I don’t actually like to think of anyone having to suffer these tiny little rat-houses with no natural light. Ugh

    They genuinely depress me
    I remember a friend in Sheffield being gleefully told by a local Green councillor that they were planning to block off the tiny remaining windows she had at the back of her tiny flat. Because it was good for the environment.

    I just assume 'the environment' exists in the abstract.
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    ohnotnow said:

    DougSeal said:

    algarkirk said:

    DougSeal said:

    Christopher Hope📝
    @christopherhope
    ·
    20m

    NEW I am told on good authority that after the launch of PopCon today 70 donors and supporters gathered for drinks at Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's house nearby.

    There were 30 Conservative MPs at the party - far more than the dozen or so who were at the launch ...

    He’s been pumping this thing all day. He works for GB News. It’s what they do. “Good authority”????
    What would be useful re PopCon would be a brief but clear summary of three things:

    What are their core principles and beliefs - what is Conservatism?
    What are their central policies?
    How do they get from here to where they want to be, and make their central policies work, with regard to tax, spend, cuts, debt, and other awkward bits of reality?

    We can all do generalised uplift, and wish lists. It's the other bits that are missing; not only with PopCon, but with politics generally.
    We had a pretty brief and clear summary of their central economic policies in September and October 2022 did we not? Certainly stuck in my mind.
    1. Kill the Queen.
    2. ...
    3. Profit!
    She reportedly has quite a collection of underpants
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,671
    ...


    I'm probably a bit late to this but...

    Seems Liz Lettuce Truss has reminded us all how absolutely woeful she is at public speaking.

    Just dreadful speech to the PopTarts mini conference.


    I'm interested in this verdict, I thought her public speaking, especially her meter, had improved a lot listening to the speech. I admit she was starting from a low base. The speech had a bit of self-deprecating humour 'I don't get invited to many London dinner parties so I don't mind', seemed to be well-rehearsed, with very little looking down at notes, and generally the well-trodden theme was delivered competently. Where did you think she fell down?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,392
    ohnotnow said:

    Carlson is interviewing Vlad the Strategic Genius.



    'Are you an amazing brilliant strategist and politician?"

    'Yes.'

    'Well, there we have it ladies and gentlemen. Conclusive I'm sure you'll agree.'
    Vital added section.

    ‘Can you think of a similarly brilliant strategist and politician who you would consider your equal?’

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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989

    Leon said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    But I don’t see new builds in other countries which are as hideous, cramped and windowless as in Britain. Even the worst American new housing - which can be really really bad - understands that humans like and require natural light

    Why is it always just us? Why are we like this?
    What an odd complaint.

    My new build has a big bay window that runs almost the entire width of the living room. The kitchen/diner wall to the garden is more glass than anything else, with glass double doors and large windows. And upstairs there's loads of windows.

    I get much more natural light in my new build house, than I ever got in my rented old, damp accommodation.

    So presumably you approve of that new build design then? Or are you just a miserable old man who doesn't want people to have a home of their own?

    Anyway, the solution is the same as always: liberate planning and let people decide. If people want bigger windows, then in a free market then people can choose bigger windows and firms that build homes with small windows will struggle to sell them. Competition works.
    "Do you want a flat with combustible cladding, or safe cladding? The market needs to know! If you don't tell us you know there's only one way we'll find out..."

    Somewhat related - I used to have a friend who did new builds and explained that he built them with a 20-year lifespan in mind. No matter what the paperwork said.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,166
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    theProle said:

    Leon said:

    Awks.




    Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

    Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

    Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

    North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

    The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

    The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

    The industrial unit can’t be any uglier than those hideous little rabbit hutch new-builds next door. Look at them. I think I can see @BartholomewRoberts in the bathroom of the house on the left

    When did we decide as a nation that we want to feel trapped in tiny rooms with no windows? Windows are good. Britain is a shit-hole and we’ve done it to ourselves
    Tiny windows is another bonus from the bonkers energy efficiency regs for new builds. Going for tiny windows is almost certainly one of the easier ways to get the thermal loss values down to the required threshold.
    But I don’t see new builds in other countries which are as hideous, cramped and windowless as in Britain. Even the worst American new housing - which can be really really bad - understands that humans like and require natural light

    Why is it always just us? Why are we like this?
    What an odd complaint.

    My new build has a big bay window that runs almost the entire width of the living room. The kitchen/diner wall to the garden is more glass than anything else, with glass double doors and large windows. And upstairs there's loads of windows.

    I get much more natural light in my new build house, than I ever got in my rented old, damp accommodation.

    So presumably you approve of that new build design then? Or are you just a miserable old man who doesn't want people to have a home of their own?

    Anyway, the solution is the same as always: liberate planning and let people decide. If people want bigger windows, then in a free market then people can choose bigger windows and firms that build homes with small windows will struggle to sell them. Competition works.
    Amazingly, I agree with you. On the whole

    And it’s good that you’ve got nice big windows. I don’t actually like to think of anyone having to suffer these tiny little rat-houses with no natural light. Ugh

    They genuinely depress me
    I remember a friend in Sheffield being gleefully told by a local Green councillor that they were planning to block off the tiny remaining windows she had at the back of her tiny flat. Because it was good for the environment.
    This only works if "the environment" are Weeping Angels.
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,150
    Scott_xP said:

    @realBenBloch

    🔥 Mark Littlewood, the former IEA boss spearheading the Popular Conservatives, was asked by @SophyRidgeSky if Liz Truss is popular.

    He replied: "I don't think she's popular as a person."

    He also described her time as PM as "a diabolical failure".

    When former Lib Dems fall out ...
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,166
    Scott_xP said:

    @realBenBloch

    🔥 Mark Littlewood, the former IEA boss spearheading the Popular Conservatives, was asked by @SophyRidgeSky if Liz Truss is popular.

    He replied: "I don't think she's popular as a person."

    He also described her time as PM as "a diabolical failure".

    A bit harsh I think
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989
    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    The vanilla/PB resize has made that so small I can hardly tell that's a house, never mind comment on the windows.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220

    So Gary Lineker is using twitter less because it is so toxic. He hasn't the brainpower to realise that if he stopped using it altogether it would be even less toxic. His tweets are the cause of a lot of tocixity as he deliberately stirs up trouble.

    TwiX is an absolute cesspool now. You think Linekar is the problem? OK, lets take off all the people like him and leave it to the conspiracy nutters, the alt-right, the lunatics etc etc.

    And see if it is less toxic.
    He is one of the lunatics.... ;)
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    @JosiasJessop FPT

    That's wonderful news, and a tribute to the power of financial incentives.

    There's quite a history of innovation arising from prizes. I take it you know the story of Longitude?

    Yeah, Harrison and his clocks/watches.

    Prizes are interesting: the DARPA Grand Challenge arguably set off the rush for autonomous cars; the X-Prize suborbital commercial spaceflight. But the Google Lunar X_Prize was a big failure, with no team making it to the Moon, even after it was extended. I don't think any team has still made it, five years after it ended.

    I doubt anyone contributed to the Herculaneum prize for the money; it was because it was cool. I doubt Harrison did it solely for the money - though he was rightly aggrieved when he did not get it. For the prizes that individuals can contribute valuable insight to - as Casey Hander did with the scrolls - it is more about the challenge, and the money helps a) publicise and b) concentrate minds.

    I am still in awe of this. I daresay some on here wonder why I'm often so upbeat, given everything that's going on in the UK and the world. It's partly because there are still people who do this sort of thing.
    Couldn't agree more with the sentiment, JJ.

    Do you listen to the science epiodes on 'In Our Time'. They are awe-inspiring, although I suspect your personal awe doesn't need much inspiration.
    :) Yeah, I listen to IoT when I'm out running or walking. There's so much great podcast material out there on science alone, I've got thousands of hours recorded and ready to listen to.

    There are lots of good history ones as well. As ever with life, too much to do, not enough time...
    History is more my subject, but I am always impressed by how well the scientists explain their subjects.
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    TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,727

    isam said:

    An unexpected endorsement…

    'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

    Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.



    https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Who is Holly Valance?
    She used to be famous........
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,989

    ...


    I'm probably a bit late to this but...

    Seems Liz Lettuce Truss has reminded us all how absolutely woeful she is at public speaking.

    Just dreadful speech to the PopTarts mini conference.


    I'm interested in this verdict, I thought her public speaking, especially her meter, had improved a lot listening to the speech. I admit she was starting from a low base. The speech had a bit of self-deprecating humour 'I don't get invited to many London dinner parties so I don't mind', seemed to be well-rehearsed, with very little looking down at notes, and generally the well-trodden theme was delivered competently. Where did you think she fell down?
    When she tried to walk unaided? On past experience.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,225
    '2,086 people who were verified by CCHQ as being Conservative party members in 2022 answered a survey that was carried out across the UK from the 29th to 31st January 2024.
    The survey, almost three times bigger than the Conservative Home poll carried out each month which shows the most popular members of the Cabinet, has highlighted huge discontent in parts of the party as well as identifying who the Conservative Members want as leader.

    When members were asked if they would vote Conservative with the following people as leader, Boris Johnson came top with 85.37 percent followed by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg on 69.51 percent and Suella Braverman on 65.38 percent. . Only 23.63% of members said they will vote Conservative at the next General Election if Rishi Sunak remains as leader.'

    This looks like the type of voter who has gone from Tory to Reform rather than the median Tory member however

    https://conservativepost.co.uk/conservative-party-members-are-on-strike-and-57-wont-vote-tory-with-rishi-as-leader/
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,671
    ohnotnow said:

    ...


    I'm probably a bit late to this but...

    Seems Liz Lettuce Truss has reminded us all how absolutely woeful she is at public speaking.

    Just dreadful speech to the PopTarts mini conference.


    I'm interested in this verdict, I thought her public speaking, especially her meter, had improved a lot listening to the speech. I admit she was starting from a low base. The speech had a bit of self-deprecating humour 'I don't get invited to many London dinner parties so I don't mind', seemed to be well-rehearsed, with very little looking down at notes, and generally the well-trodden theme was delivered competently. Where did you think she fell down?
    When she tried to walk unaided? On past experience.
    Apologies, I thought we were sophisticated enough to offer informed opinions on on political happenings regardless of our ideological disposition.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    Now that Truss has Holly Valance, she just needs the Taylor Swift endorsement.
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 6,031
    edited February 6
    RobD said:

    Leon said:

    And here. Same photo

    An entire side of the house with three windows so small even Rishi Sunak couldn’t burgle you

    You’d honestly have trouble getting planning permission for this as a prison, due to deprivation of natural light. It looks like the wall of an abattoir. And we sell this as housing. Shameful. Shameful



    Again, I'd certainly not say it's an attractive building. But having few or no windows on the side elevation of a house is hardly a new phenomenon in towns (even ignoring terraced housing which clearly can't have side windows except an end terrace which normally won't). This is partly structural, partly related to privacy.

    The windows on the side of that one will almost definitely be a non-dining kitchen or a bathroom with obscured glass. Will the natural light be any good... well, we don't know - they could have french doors onto the garden, in which case it'd be pretty good.
    Yes a lack of side-elevation windows is deliberate and universal in both new and old homes.

    If you had a large window on a side-elevation and so did your neighbour, you'd be looking into each other's homes when you look out your window and through your neighbours. Who wants that?

    We have large windows in two directions, none in one side (semi-detached so it'd be impossible) and small ones on the other side which is mainly the staircase and hallway anyway so only needs the small window for natural light.
    I don't think that's the problem. The problem is the total surface area that is windows appears abnormally low. It must be hell in winter in a place like that.
    It's just the cheapest way to achieve decent energy efficiency. Typical profit maximisation from developers.

    1) Land bank
    2) Low density to further restrict supply
    3) Sell crap at high prices
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,046
    HYUFD said:

    '2,086 people who were verified by CCHQ as being Conservative party members in 2022 answered a survey that was carried out across the UK from the 29th to 31st January 2024.
    The survey, almost three times bigger than the Conservative Home poll carried out each month which shows the most popular members of the Cabinet, has highlighted huge discontent in parts of the party as well as identifying who the Conservative Members want as leader.

    When members were asked if they would vote Conservative with the following people as leader, Boris Johnson came top with 85.37 percent followed by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg on 69.51 percent and Suella Braverman on 65.38 percent. . Only 23.63% of members said they will vote Conservative at the next General Election if Rishi Sunak remains as leader.'

    This looks like the type of voter who has gone from Tory to Reform rather than the median Tory member however

    https://conservativepost.co.uk/conservative-party-members-are-on-strike-and-57-wont-vote-tory-with-rishi-as-leader/

    Do you believe the Conservative Party has been hijacked by non-Conservatives?
    Yes 92%.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,548
    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @realBenBloch

    🔥 Mark Littlewood, the former IEA boss spearheading the Popular Conservatives, was asked by @SophyRidgeSky if Liz Truss is popular.

    He replied: "I don't think she's popular as a person."

    He also described her time as PM as "a diabolical failure".

    A bit harsh I think
    Hmmm.

    Possibly, but who's going to sue?

    It would mean proving you'd been libelled, which would mean admitting you were a diabolical failure.

    So even though it is unkind to diabolical failures, it's not really important.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    edited February 6
    HYUFD said:

    '2,086 people who were verified by CCHQ as being Conservative party members in 2022 answered a survey that was carried out across the UK from the 29th to 31st January 2024.
    The survey, almost three times bigger than the Conservative Home poll carried out each month which shows the most popular members of the Cabinet, has highlighted huge discontent in parts of the party as well as identifying who the Conservative Members want as leader.

    When members were asked if they would vote Conservative with the following people as leader, Boris Johnson came top with 85.37 percent followed by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg on 69.51 percent and Suella Braverman on 65.38 percent. . Only 23.63% of members said they will vote Conservative at the next General Election if Rishi Sunak remains as leader.'

    This looks like the type of voter who has gone from Tory to Reform rather than the median Tory member however

    https://conservativepost.co.uk/conservative-party-members-are-on-strike-and-57-wont-vote-tory-with-rishi-as-leader/

    If the Conservative Party were to change leader now, which of the following would you support being Prime Minister to lead us into the next General Election? (Members were asked to choose their top 3). They received the following number of votes:

    Boris Johnson - 1419
    Suella Braverman - 891
    Jacob Rees-Mogg - 721
    Penny Mordaunt - 520
    Kemi Badenoch - 518
    Liz Truss - 301
    Priti Patel - 286
    Robert Jenrick - 220
    David Cameron - 100
    James Cleverly - 75
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    isamisam Posts: 41,072
    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,225
    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @realBenBloch

    🔥 Mark Littlewood, the former IEA boss spearheading the Popular Conservatives, was asked by @SophyRidgeSky if Liz Truss is popular.

    He replied: "I don't think she's popular as a person."

    He also described her time as PM as "a diabolical failure".

    A bit harsh I think
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,220

    @JosiasJessop FPT

    That's wonderful news, and a tribute to the power of financial incentives.

    There's quite a history of innovation arising from prizes. I take it you know the story of Longitude?

    Yeah, Harrison and his clocks/watches.

    Prizes are interesting: the DARPA Grand Challenge arguably set off the rush for autonomous cars; the X-Prize suborbital commercial spaceflight. But the Google Lunar X_Prize was a big failure, with no team making it to the Moon, even after it was extended. I don't think any team has still made it, five years after it ended.

    I doubt anyone contributed to the Herculaneum prize for the money; it was because it was cool. I doubt Harrison did it solely for the money - though he was rightly aggrieved when he did not get it. For the prizes that individuals can contribute valuable insight to - as Casey Hander did with the scrolls - it is more about the challenge, and the money helps a) publicise and b) concentrate minds.

    I am still in awe of this. I daresay some on here wonder why I'm often so upbeat, given everything that's going on in the UK and the world. It's partly because there are still people who do this sort of thing.
    Couldn't agree more with the sentiment, JJ.

    Do you listen to the science epiodes on 'In Our Time'. They are awe-inspiring, although I suspect your personal awe doesn't need much inspiration.
    :) Yeah, I listen to IoT when I'm out running or walking. There's so much great podcast material out there on science alone, I've got thousands of hours recorded and ready to listen to.

    There are lots of good history ones as well. As ever with life, too much to do, not enough time...
    History is more my subject, but I am always impressed by how well the scientists explain their subjects.
    I'm going to be controversial here: anyone who classifies themselves as an 'expert' isn't really expert if they cannot explain their subject to a ten-year old, a GCSE student, and a degree-level student. Obviously the amount of detail would be different, but if a historian bores a primary school kid whilst talking about (say) Roman history, then they don't have a firm grasp of their topic.

    There're series of this on YouTube, with experts doing this sort of thing. Like this one on gravity:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUey-DVYjk

    Wired did a fair few:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLibNZv5Zd0dyCoQ6f4pdXUFnpAIlKgm3N
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,225
    isam said:

    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    According to this forum the only alternative is Trump. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,225
    Taylor Swift.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,671
    isam said:

    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    But Trump is worse!!!! Insists PB.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,135
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    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

    Ask me anything

    I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?
    If you wear it in combination with Dyson headphones, you can look like this:

    https://twitter.com/HumansNoContext/status/1754243633925042450
    Has anyone here got the Dyson or Apple headphones? I refuse to believe they could possibly be worth double the price of my $450 Bose NC700s.
    I wasn’t aware that Dyson made them until seeing that tweet. Presumably they have a vacuum function to clean your ear canal.
    If I’m paying $900 for them, they’d better be good at sucking something.
    They are a rare commercial dud from Dyson.
    If you’re going up against Bose, Sony, and Apple, not to mention the off-brand noice-cancellers which are getting a lot better, you sure as hell want to make sure you have clearly the best product if you’re looking for such a massive premium. What were they thinking?
    I really don't know.

    It seems like they thought "well, we're all going to be wearing masks for ever due to Covid, so let's be the first to integrate one into a pair of headphones."

    Also, they forgot that there's a reason why Sony and Bose make their headphones as light as possible: it's because it's uncomfortable wandering around wearing headphones that weight the best part of a kilo.
    It sounds like Apple have also forgotten that lesson based on your comments about their goggles.
    The first couple of versions are always flawed.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,072

    isam said:

    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    According to this forum the only alternative is Trump. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
    I don’t really follow US politics at all, but seeing this I don’t think I’d trust Biden to get the fish & chips on a Friday without forgetting what he’d gone out for.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,665

    isam said:

    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    But Trump is worse!!!! Insists PB.
    Trump has such a thin grip on reality that he thinks the election was stolen from him in 2020.

    Biden is a flawed candidate, sure. But the Republicans have decided to fall in behind someone worse.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,225
    isam said:

    isam said:

    How can Biden even be President now, let alone think he should be in 2028?

    https://x.com/stone_skynews/status/1754942128382267674?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    According to this forum the only alternative is Trump. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
    I don’t really follow US politics at all, but seeing this I don’t think I’d trust Biden to get the fish & chips on a Friday without forgetting what he’d gone out for.
    You’d prefer Trump?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,288
    The polling average for Trump v Kamala Harris gives him an 8.5 point advantage.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024
    Andy_JS said:

    "Boeing: Bolts missing from door, says blowout report"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68220627

    Actual NTSB report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MA063 Preliminary report.pdf

    It seems like a confusion between suppliers as to whether this hole in the side of the plane was a door or not, it being a door on some planes but not on others - but opening and closing a door requires no paperwork, whereas opening and closing this plug should need to be documented and cross-checked.

    Looks like the whole 737 programme is about to be shut down, after way too many modifications to what’s a 50-year-old type certificate.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,225

    The polling average for Trump v Kamala Harris gives him an 8.5 point advantage.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

    So what?

    Time for a reboot William.
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,688

    HYUFD said:

    '2,086 people who were verified by CCHQ as being Conservative party members in 2022 answered a survey that was carried out across the UK from the 29th to 31st January 2024.
    The survey, almost three times bigger than the Conservative Home poll carried out each month which shows the most popular members of the Cabinet, has highlighted huge discontent in parts of the party as well as identifying who the Conservative Members want as leader.

    When members were asked if they would vote Conservative with the following people as leader, Boris Johnson came top with 85.37 percent followed by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg on 69.51 percent and Suella Braverman on 65.38 percent. . Only 23.63% of members said they will vote Conservative at the next General Election if Rishi Sunak remains as leader.'

    This looks like the type of voter who has gone from Tory to Reform rather than the median Tory member however

    https://conservativepost.co.uk/conservative-party-members-are-on-strike-and-57-wont-vote-tory-with-rishi-as-leader/

    If the Conservative Party were to change leader now, which of the following would you support being Prime Minister to lead us into the next General Election? (Members were asked to choose their top 3). They received the following number of votes:

    Boris Johnson - 1419
    Suella Braverman - 891
    Jacob Rees-Mogg - 721
    Penny Mordaunt - 520
    Kemi Badenoch - 518
    Liz Truss - 301
    Priti Patel - 286
    Robert Jenrick - 220
    David Cameron - 100
    James Cleverly - 75
    Look at that list and suddenly it occurs to you: It could be terminal. They could end up with about 7 seats. This is the end. Starmer, Streeting, Reeves look like giant statesmen, Churchill, Gladstone, Jenkins by comparison. This bunch of decent folk our thin hope of sanity.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,582

    Taylor Swift.

    Singapore has tons of them
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,688

    Taylor Swift.

    True.
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