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NEW INSIGHT: Despite Trump's self-proclaimed role in overturning Roe, only 48% of voters believe he will pursue a national abortion ban and only 24% blame him for new abortion bans.The disparity highlights the need to brand Trump on abortion in 2024.https://t.co/s1ygcW0dNe

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TheScreamingEagles

E pluribus unum?

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

Stewards' inquiry.

JosiasJessop

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

TheScreamingEagles

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Peter_the_Punter

@JosiasJessop FPT

That's wonderful news, and a tribute to the power of financial incentives.

There's quite a history of innovation arising from prizes. I take it you know the story of Longitude?

kamski

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

Mexicanpete

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Siarad cymraeg?

RobD

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

LD levels of approval.

Luckyguy1983

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

The Spanish have some fruity ones. 'I shit on the beach' and its more nuclear version 'I shit 'en dios''.

tlg86

I don't follow this closely, but is it not a bid odd that Republicans don't give Trump much credit here? Republicans having Trump last makes me think they have answered as though the change is bad. The wording of the question implies that it is bad, but I'd still expect most of them to not be swayed by that.

TimS

RobD said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

LD levels of approval.

So it won't be Hoch the Kaiser anymore.

Luckyguy1983

Mexicanpete said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Siarad cymraeg?

Let's not call anyone a cym-raeg please.

Peter_the_Punter

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

New visitors to the Site should note that TSE is an excessively modest man, and therefore omitted to mention that he also speaks fluent Rubbish, but prefers not to flaunt it.

TheScreamingEagles

Peter_the_Punter said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

New visitors to the Site should note that TSE is an excessively modest man, and therefore omitted to mention that he also speaks fluent Rubbish, but prefers not to flaunt it.

I speak fluent bollocks as well.

Malmesbury

Peter_the_Punter said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

New visitors to the Site should note that TSE is an excessively modest man, and therefore omitted to mention that he also speaks fluent Rubbish, but prefers not to flaunt it.

Goodbye @Peter_the_Punter …

In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
In the midst of his laughter and glee,
He had softly and suddenly vanished away—
For the @TSE was a Boojum, you see.

isam

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

david_herdson

tlg86 said:

I don't follow this closely, but is it not a bid odd that Republicans don't give Trump much credit here? Republicans having Trump last makes me think they have answered as though the change is bad. The wording of the question implies that it is bad, but I'd still expect most of them to not be swayed by that.

Maybe they don't believe Trump is against abortion. Or is certainly ambivalent on the subject. If so, they'd have good reason to.

But he has enabled a judicial system that's increasingly anti-abortion and is a willing ally of the prohibitionists.

Selebian

RobD said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

LD levels of approval.

Hier gewinnen?

TheScreamingEagles

I had doubts about Labour's £28 billion Green plan now I know it is a very bad idea and must be opposed because Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is a fan of the plan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/02/06/labour-proclaim-its-28bn-green-plan-from-rooftops/

Selebian

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Lots of write-ins for Ed Davey, I hear

williamglenn

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

If you instead asked people whether they would be in favour of the role of federal president ceasing to be subject to political horsetrading and instead taken over by the Duke of Württemberg and his descendents, you might get a different answer.

algarkirk

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

Nations don't operate the dignified bits of their constitution in a vacuum. If England (I accept other bits of the UK have different histories) had had a dignified and working head of state system which could date back to 900CE and wasn't a monarchy we would probably not want to bring in some randomers and call them the king/queen. But as it happens we have what we have, and its continuities are remarkable, matched in many ways in the west only by the papacy - another thing it is a good idea not to mess with.

It doesn't matter a bit what the Germans think. If they still had the HRE they would probably want to keep it (Prussian expansionism has had its downside). Their history is different.

kamski

williamglenn said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

If you instead asked people whether they would be in favour of the role of federal president ceasing to be subject to political horsetrading and instead taken over by the Duke of Württemberg and his descendents, you might get a different answer.

I really doubt it would be different

MoonRabbit

david_herdson said:

tlg86 said:

I don't follow this closely, but is it not a bid odd that Republicans don't give Trump much credit here? Republicans having Trump last makes me think they have answered as though the change is bad. The wording of the question implies that it is bad, but I'd still expect most of them to not be swayed by that.

Maybe they don't believe Trump is against abortion. Or is certainly ambivalent on the subject. If so, they'd have good reason to.

But he has enabled a judicial system that's increasingly anti-abortion and is a willing ally of the prohibitionists.

Absolutely spot on David - the only 1 thing Trump is actually for is Trump (for short - family Trump making money in longhand).

ON TOPIC TSE don’t change your betting strategy, Donald Trump has exactly 0% chance of becoming president - the only way of getting President Trump was in 2016 when enough people really didn’t know what they would get if they pressed the button. They now know, so not nearly enough of them will press that button again… or at least until “Trumpism” baton is passed to an unknown enough quantity.

Those in USA against abortion are in such a minority that it’s a disgrace against democracy courts can be stuffed to make these sort of democratic travesties happen.

kamski

algarkirk said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

Nations don't operate the dignified bits of their constitution in a vacuum. If England (I accept other bits of the UK have different histories) had had a dignified and working head of state system which could date back to 900CE and wasn't a monarchy we would probably not want to bring in some randomers and call them the king/queen. But as it happens we have what we have, and its continuities are remarkable, matched in many ways in the west only by the papacy - another thing it is a good idea not to mess with.

It doesn't matter a bit what the Germans think. If they still had the HRE they would probably want to keep it (Prussian expansionism has had its downside). Their history is different.

Of course. I'm just pointing out to Leon that monarchies can be less popular in monarchies, than republics are in republics. (FPT).

Also it's not as if Germany has a very happy history since dumping its monarchy.

Also was Prussia more expansionist than England/Britain back in the day?

kinabalu

If I (for a change) look for reasons why Donald Trump will win rather than lose, one which comes to mind is the ratio of in-person to postal votes. Isn't it accepted that in 2020 he was disadvantaged by the relative weight of postal voting due to Covid? In which case doesn't it follow that if this is not so prevalent this time he will probably benefit?

RochdalePioneers

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

Malmesbury

david_herdson said:

tlg86 said:

I don't follow this closely, but is it not a bid odd that Republicans don't give Trump much credit here? Republicans having Trump last makes me think they have answered as though the change is bad. The wording of the question implies that it is bad, but I'd still expect most of them to not be swayed by that.

Maybe they don't believe Trump is against abortion. Or is certainly ambivalent on the subject. If so, they'd have good reason to.

But he has enabled a judicial system that's increasingly anti-abortion and is a willing ally of the prohibitionists.

That’s sums up the situation - and Trumps triangulation on the issue, combined with the double think of many Trump followers means that he can reach both the anti-abortion and the abortion-should-be-rare groups.

MoonRabbit

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Technically wrong, he came third in one, the only one he loses to Sunak, by 1 point.

But these are the sort of “what evidence do we have to go on” questions that massively favour the person in the job not those out of power - the fact he is thrashing the current Conservative Primeminister in these is the noteworthy element you bizarrely missed.

Your post made little intelligent sense at all, unless you are now trying to “out satirise” MexicanPete before he can post this himself 🤔

Scott_xP

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

MarqueeMark

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

williamglenn

kamski said:

williamglenn said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

If you instead asked people whether they would be in favour of the role of federal president ceasing to be subject to political horsetrading and instead taken over by the Duke of Württemberg and his descendents, you might get a different answer.

I really doubt it would be different

Different means different, not that a majority would be in favour. For example it might be 20% in favour instead of 8%

A poll which basically asks, "Do you want to be like the UK?" taken just after Germans have been subjected to a lot of propaganda about how dysfunctional the UK is, is obviously not going to get a favourable response.

MarqueeMark

kinabalu said:

If I (for a change) look for reasons why Donald Trump will win rather than lose, one which comes to mind is the ratio of in-person to postal votes. Isn't it accepted that in 2020 he was disadvantaged by the relative weight of postal voting due to Covid? In which case doesn't it follow that if this is not so prevalent this time he will probably benefit?

The Dems ground game was massively hampered by Covid.

Not this year...

isam

RochdalePioneers said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

Yep, that’s the joke 👏🏻

isam

MoonRabbit said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Technically wrong, he came third in one, the only one he loses to Sunak, by 1 point.

But these are the sort of “what evidence do we have to go on” questions that massively favour the person in the job not those out of power - the fact he is thrashing the current Conservative Primeminister in these is the noteworthy element you bizarrely missed.

Your post made little intelligent sense at all, unless you are now trying to “out satirise” MexicanPete before he can post this himself 🤔

Technically right, I believe

MoonRabbit

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

“dental recovery plan” = false teeth. You’re too late

kinabalu

RochdalePioneers said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

The one Sunak beats SKS on is "better at working with President Trump".

Which is probably the one you want to lose.

MoonRabbit

RochdalePioneers said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

Technically correct 🤭

MoonRabbit

isam said:

RochdalePioneers said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

Yep, that’s the joke 👏🏻

You’re doing comedy now?

You should have told us when you started 😂

Nigelb

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

No, but if they decide to be awkward, they could delay things until June.

kinabalu

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

If I (for a change) look for reasons why Donald Trump will win rather than lose, one which comes to mind is the ratio of in-person to postal votes. Isn't it accepted that in 2020 he was disadvantaged by the relative weight of postal voting due to Covid? In which case doesn't it follow that if this is not so prevalent this time he will probably benefit?

The Dems ground game was massively hampered by Covid.

Not this year...

Ok, so hopefully that will outweigh the point I'm fretting about.

Andy_JS

Damn, I forgot to visit the Canary Wharf winter lights this year. It was on from 17th to 27th January.

https://canarywharf.com/whats-on/winter-lights/

kamski

MoonRabbit said:

isam said:

RochdalePioneers said:

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Sunak comes third in all but one of the "who would be better" questions

Yep, that’s the joke 👏🏻

You’re doing comedy now?

You should have told us when you started 😂

"They're not laughing now!"

Nigelb

I disagree with the premise of the header.

I think the abortion issue is more likely to have salience when it comes to Senate and House elections.

This sort of stuff, in the CNN poll, is more likely to encumber Trump.
Particularly healthcare.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24408299/cnn-poll-most-americans-want-verdict-on-trump-election-subversion-charges-before-2024-vote.pdf
Three quarters of respondents think Trump would seek to repeal the Affordable Care Act; direct the DOJ to investigate his political rivals; pardon himself of any and all federal crimes; fire any federal workers who oppose his policies; pardon most Jan 6ers.
Around two thirds of respondents oppose all those things.

All he has to run on (for now) is the border, and Biden's increasing fragility.
If (heaven forfend), Biden karked it in the next few months, Trump would probably be toast.

Andy_JS

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

They should have done this about 20 years ago. Also eyes tests.

FF43

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

People vote for the status quo everywhere but in monarchies this is somewhat mitigated by monarchy being an inherent nonsense ("It kind of works, so we'll stick with it")

Jim_Miller

I have always assumed the Loser is in favor of abortion for the same reason that the late Hugh Hefner was. So I disregard whatever the Loser says, now.

(There have been a few American figures who have been consistent on the issues, notably the late Nat Hentoff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Hentoff )

kamski

williamglenn said:

kamski said:

williamglenn said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

If you instead asked people whether they would be in favour of the role of federal president ceasing to be subject to political horsetrading and instead taken over by the Duke of Württemberg and his descendents, you might get a different answer.

I really doubt it would be different

Different means different, not that a majority would be in favour. For example it might be 20% in favour instead of 8%

A poll which basically asks, "Do you want to be like the UK?" taken just after Germans have been subjected to a lot of propaganda about how dysfunctional the UK is, is obviously not going to get a favourable response.

Wait what? I thought the line was the British monarchy was the ultimate in soft power, enhancing British prestige all over the world?

noneoftheabove

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Technically, if you know Urdu, you also know Hindi.

kamski

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Technically, if you know Urdu, you also know Hindi.

Assalamu alaikum!

Peter_the_Punter

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Don't.

You will start Ydoethur off.

FF43

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Neither is not running for election.

Alphabet_Soup

Andy_JS said:

Damn, I forgot to visit the Canary Wharf winter lights this year. It was on from 17th to 27th January.

https://canarywharf.com/whats-on/winter-lights/

Go to Compton Verney Spectacle of Light instead.

It's infinitely nicer than Canary Wharf.

https://www.comptonverney.org.uk/event/spectacle/

tlg86

Peter_the_Punter said:

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Don't.

You will start Ydoethur off.

That's filling me with dread.

Nigelb

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

Peter_the_Punter

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

The importance of their decision cannot be overstated.

I have bets with both Ydoethur and SeanF.

Nigelb

Peter_the_Punter said:

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

The importance of their decision cannot be overstated.

I have bets with both Ydoethur and SeanF.

The reason the DC circuit took so long seems to have been the issue of jurisdiction. On the merits, they absolutely and unanimously trash Trump's arguments.

viewcode

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

"I want to buy the worst shoes"
"Je veux acheter les piers chasseurs"
"Ich mochte die schlechtesten Schuhe kaufen"
"Volo emere pessimuss calceamenta"...

Nigelb

tlg86 said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Don't.

You will start Ydoethur off.

That's filling me with dread.

An amalgam of fear and loathing ?

viewcode

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Ain't that the tooth.

viewcode

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Government finally work out that the way to get people to do their jobs is to pay them. R/nottheonion

MattW

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

The Court has given him until next Monday to file an Appeal to the Supreme Court.

Nigelb

Peter_the_Punter said:

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

The importance of their decision cannot be overstated.

I have bets with both Ydoethur and SeanF.

I would take four justices to agree to hear the case; five to issue a stay.
I think only Alito and Thomas are mad enough.

MarqueeMark

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.

MarqueeMark

Really enjoying the first season of Aussie Traitors. Some fascinating characters they have assembled....

isam

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

OldKingCole

O/t, but trying to Pm someone and apparently the system won’t take them.

TheScreamingEagles

I so misread this at first.

NEW: Scotland's drugs and alcohol policy minister Elena Whitham has resigned from government due to health reasons.

She was appointed to the post in March last year.

https://twitter.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1754922586197135864

TheScreamingEagles

isam said:

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Her husband is close to a lot of senior Tories, he even attended a lockdown breaking party with Shaun Bailey

mwadams

MarqueeMark said:

Really enjoying the first season of Aussie Traitors. Some fascinating characters they have assembled....

The first season is outstanding. And it contains one of *the* great moments of television.

squareroot2

TheScreamingEagles said:

I had doubts about Labour's £28 billion Green plan now I know it is a very bad idea and must be opposed because Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is a fan of the plan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/02/06/labour-proclaim-its-28bn-green-plan-from-rooftops/

Its aspirational shite .no time stated. Won't happen.

TheScreamingEagles

Awks.




Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

isam

TheScreamingEagles said:

I so misread this at first.

NEW: Scotland's drugs and alcohol policy minister Elena Whitham has resigned from government due to health reasons.

She was appointed to the post in March last year.

https://twitter.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1754922586197135864

Is it me, or does that first sentence not seem right? Should it be ‘for’ health reasons rather than ‘due to’?

Stark_Dawning

isam said:

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Oh dear. I hope no one dredges up those derogatory comments Ms Valance made about the British all those years ago. Could be embarrassing for Liz if she has to 'distance' herself from them.

squareroot2

viewcode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Ain't that the tooth.

It's the root canal.of the problem.

Nigelb

MarqueeMark said:

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.

By refusing to review the lower court's (extremely ccomprehensive) decision, they wouldn't be 'running away' from ruling at all.

They would be declaring that there are no good grounds to appeal the decision, and that they affirm it.

Note that for them to issue a stay of the current trial would require five justices to think that there is a likelihood of Trump's succeeding on the merits. That's just not going to happen.

SandyRentool

All this bigging up of The Truss is just ridiculous.

IanB2

JosiasJessop said:

In absolutely fr**cking awesome news, the first passages from a new Herculaneum scroll has been deciphered:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00346-8

And it's about senses ans pleasure...

This is a big thing. When Vesuvius erupted in 76AD, a library containing hundreds of scrolls was destroyed, and the scrolls carbonised. Some have been successfully opened, but this is a destructive process that often fails. The new prize uses very precise non-destructive 3D scanning of a scroll, and awards people who can find text in the resultant data.

Late last year, it was announced that a couple of people had uncovered a few letters in part of the scroll. Using this data, a team has found entire columns of text.

The next one will be from some Roman twat bemoaning that the empire is going to woke and hence this is the last scroll he will be writing….

isam

TheScreamingEagles said:

isam said:

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Her husband is close to a lot of senior Tories, he even attended a lockdown breaking party with Shaun Bailey

And other parties with some real Grand Fromage’s

TheScreamingEagles

Heh

Northern_Al

isam said:

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Unexpected? A very rich woman married to Nick Candy, an extraordinarily rich property developer?

mwadams

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

"It's raining sea-urchin"

malcolmg

viewcode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Ain't that the tooth.

That crowns it and certainly gets to teh root of it

rcs1000

This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

Ask me anything

SirNorfolkPassmore

MarqueeMark said:

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.

They could actually run away from ruling on this one, couldn't they? They have absolute discretion not to hear cases without any explanation, in which case the appealed ruling stands.

On the Colorado one, they couldn't really dodge it as Colorado were saying Trump was not constiutionally eligible to be President, but other states were saying he was. That has to be resolved in practical terms because Trump simply can't be eligible to be President in some states but not in others if the United States is to remain united.

In this case, though, there's no conflict that really needs resolving. It's not the case that Trump is immune from criminal prosecution on federal charges in some parts of the US but not in others - maybe if there was a prosecution in Idaho, they'd rule immunity applied, but there isn't so that's pure conjecture.

I think the Supreme Court will probably rule on this just on the importance of it, and because the justices are predominantly conservative and it buys Trump time (although they won't find for him as it is baseless). But I certainly don't rule out that they'd simply decline to take the case.

Northern_Al

isam said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

isam said:

An unexpected endorsement…

'Everyone starts as a leftie and then wakes up and realises all the ideas are crap'

Australian model and actress, Holly Valance, was at the launch of Liz Truss' new conservative movement 'PopCon'.


https://x.com/gbnews/status/1754919130837483709?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Her husband is close to a lot of senior Tories, he even attended a lockdown breaking party with Shaun Bailey

And other parties with some real Grand Fromage’s

Has Nigel had a rather nasty accident?

TheScreamingEagles

SandyRentool said:

All this bigging up of The Truss is just ridiculous.

I was invited to today's Popular Conservatism event.

They really must have been scraping the barrel to get attendees.

TheScreamingEagles

rcs1000 said:

This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

Ask me anything

I vowed to not get one, is it worth it?

Nigelb

squareroot2 said:

viewcode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Scott_xP said:

@hzeffman
EXCL: The govt is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on NHS patients and send teams to schools to treat children's teeth, it has emerged

Ministers will unveil the dental recovery plan tomorrow but details were inadvertently sent to MPs of all parties today

Sounds like there is a molar in the team.

Ain't that the tooth.

It's the root canal.of the problem.

That's hardly an incisive argument.

Nigelb

rcs1000 said:

This is the first comment from an Apple Vision Pro

Ask me anything

Are you hands free in your Tesla ?

DougSeal

isam said:

Sir Keir comes second in all but one of the ‘Who would be better?’ questions in this YouGov…

https://x.com/mattchorley/status/1754764182258360558?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Funny you should highlight Starmer coming second instead of Sunak coming third. Weird. One might think you were not an SKS Fan (TM).

TheScreamingEagles

isam said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I so misread this at first.

NEW: Scotland's drugs and alcohol policy minister Elena Whitham has resigned from government due to health reasons.

She was appointed to the post in March last year.

https://twitter.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1754922586197135864

Is it me, or does that first sentence not seem right? Should it be ‘for’ health reasons rather than ‘due to’?

It's why I initially misread it.

Sunil_Prasannan

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

E pluribus unum?

... words *not* discovered in the new Herculaneum scroll, as it's in Greek.

It's odd that high-class Romans used Greek in the same way high-class Brits use Latin.

I like to show off my talented tongue as I can speak English, Urdu, Punjabi, German, French, Latin, and Greek.

My absolute show off is when I swear in foreign languages, particularly French or Latin, it's like wiping your arse with silk.

Technically, if you know Urdu, you also know Hindi.

@kamski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_language

SirNorfolkPassmore

MarqueeMark said:

Nigelb said:

MarqueeMark said:

Trump unanimously loses his appeal on presidential immunity in DC.

Next stop the Supreme Court. Hard to see any different outcome there.

Reading the opinion, it's a pretty comprehensive demolition of Trump's case.
Trump has until Monday to seek review by the SC, but it's quite possible they turn him down. There is (IMO) almost no prospect of the court reversing the opinion, and for them to delay things by another three or four months by rehearing futile arguments, would further damage their credibility.

I don't see how the SC can run away from ruling on this matter. It is so fundamental to the role of the President under the Constitution that they HAVE to say the President is not a Monarch. They HAVE to say that the President cannot use Seal Team 6 to take out opponents. This is not about Trump; it is about the rule of law.

Declining to take the case also says that as, if they decide not to take it then the ruling that he's not immune stands. The Supreme Court declines to take thousands of cases.

I think they probably will take it... but they don't have to.

TheScreamingEagles

Lee Anderson MP, former Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party: "I'm pretty sure that coal 100 million years ago was trees and plants.. it was, well I would argue that's sustainable."

https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1754896431461052886

algarkirk

FF43 said:

kamski said:

Here's the actual poll:

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/monarchie-acht-prozent-der-deutschen-wuenschen-sich-einen-koenig-a-d4e93300-dd5c-4e9e-a2fd-31b50b6aaa76

»In einigen europäischen Ländern – wie etwa in Großbritannien – gibt es eine parlamentarische Monarchie, wobei der König oder die Königin – ähnlich wie der Bundespräsident bei uns – keine politische Macht mehr hat, sondern als Staatsoberhaupt nur noch repräsentative Aufgaben wahrnimmt. Fänden Sie es gut, wenn es auch in Deutschland statt des Bundespräsidenten noch einen König oder eine Königin gäbe oder fänden Sie das nicht gut?«

Translated:
"In some European countries - such as the UK - there is a parliamentary monarchy, where the king or queen - similar to the federal president in Germany - no longer has any political power, but only fulfils representative tasks as head of state. Would you be in favour of a king or queen instead of a federal president in Germany, or would you be against that?"

In favour 8%
Against 89%

People vote for the status quo everywhere but in monarchies this is somewhat mitigated by monarchy being an inherent nonsense ("It kind of works, so we'll stick with it")

Looked at in a particular pragmatic way, all dignified, as opposed to efficient, bits of the state are inherent nonsense. In that light, monarchy is no worse than all the others.

Dignified bits of the state have wide ramifications. One of them would be having buildings like the HoP and Westminster Hall, rather than a conference centre in Barking or Hull, rented by the day, to meet in.

carnforth

TheScreamingEagles said:

Awks.




Work is under way on a warehouse “monstrosity” at least 40ft high after a blundering Tory council consulted homeowners on the wrong street.

Residents in Corby, Northamptonshire, awoke to find the large metal frame of the industrial units being erected just yards from their back doors.

Many were blindsided and when they asked officials what had happened, it emerged that the council had got the road mixed up with another half a mile away.

North Northamptonshire council’s building planning officers had mistakenly consulted people living on Hubble Road instead of Hooke Close to ask their opinions about the 160,800 sq ft development.

The plans for the Earlstree 160 project, on the site of a former Weetabix factory, were approved by the council in November with construction works expected to be completed towards the end of this year.

The height of the industrial unit will be a minimum 40ft when built, with a pitched roof which extends higher, which will be more than double the height of many two-storey surrounding houses.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/06/40ft-warehouse-monstrosity-council-consult-wrong-street/

Amusing, but does it look better or worse than the "former Weetabix factory"?

tlg86

How do we feel about paying for Old Trafford to be rebuilt?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/06/man-utd-sir-jim-ratcliffe-old-trafford-redevelopment-plan/

TheScreamingEagles

tlg86 said:

How do we feel about paying for Old Trafford to be rebuilt?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/06/man-utd-sir-jim-ratcliffe-old-trafford-redevelopment-plan/

They can get fucked, we're not America.